Debt Rattle April 20 2022
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April 20, 2022 at 8:47 am #106423Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
Andy Warhol Grace Kelly 1984 • There Has Been No Talk Of Peace, Only War (Celente) • Putin ‘Will Go Nuclear’ Says CIA Boss in Regime Change Set
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 20 2022]April 20, 2022 at 9:06 am #106430V. ArnoldParticipantAndy Warhol Grace Kelly 1984
Nothing Warhol coud do to Grace Kelly’s portrait could distort her natural beauty…
April 20, 2022 at 9:08 am #106431V. ArnoldParticipantD Benton Smith #106402 Yesterday…
For example, there is (really) an accelerating global conspiracy to CAUSE the extinction of humanity. If we fail to stop them then we really will die. Thwarting their thoroughly developed (and lavishly financed) plan requires that we very VERY quickly up our game in sorting out this reality thing. But that’s not gonna happen if Overton’s Window doesn’t get nudged further in that direction. A LOT further.
Sorry (not) but this whole meme is absurd! They/them/elites/whomever are not an cannot extinct the humans of this planet!
Think! for god’s sake; think about what you believe! This is the real insanity………..
What I’ve observed over the last 2 years of the covid debacle, is the complete failure of critical thinking across the globe; here in Thailand FAIL
In the U.S. fail! In the west in general= fail!
And now because the vaccine disaster (avarice, hubris, and lack of empathy), we are talking conspiracy to end humanity…that’s insanity…
I’m sick to death of the “end of humanity” crap; because tha’s what it is…CRAP!!!
While you are stuck in that wormhole of conspiracy theories you will be snookered at every turn…
Wake the fuck up!!!Rant over for the moment…wake up…
April 20, 2022 at 9:25 am #106432Formerly T-BearParticipant@ V.Arnold
Wake the fuck up!!!
Are they then woke?
Careful for what you wish – take better aim – know your foe!April 20, 2022 at 9:30 am #106433V. ArnoldParticipantT-Bear
Are they then woke?
Careful for what you wish – take better aim – know your foe!Oh god’s no!
woke is not awake… 😉
Cheers T-Bear
and thanks for the comment…April 20, 2022 at 9:52 am #106434GermParticipantThis review paper by Seneff et al. (2022) summarises the current literature on mRNA and its effects on the molecular biology within human cells.
The findings are shocking. Read the ‘Highlights’ –
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869152200206X?via%3Dihub
The authors conclude that “billions of lives are potentially at risk, given the large number of individuals injected with the […] mRNA vaccines […]. ”
🤡🤡🤡
April 20, 2022 at 9:53 am #106435GermParticipantDr. Jessica Rose discusses the fraud we’ve all experienced over the past few years in relation to the pandemic. The data shows negative efficacy regarding the COVID19 vaccine, meaning that it’s actually hurting you.
She goes into the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and how the adverse event and death reports related to COVID19 injections are off the chart.
https://jessicar.substack.com/p/my-latest-interview-on-geopolitics 🤡🤡🤡
April 20, 2022 at 9:56 am #106436RedParticipantReal war correspondents are few, however 19 April:
April 20, 2022 at 10:52 am #106437Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster“The Westminster Magistrates Court in London has issued an order to extradite WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to the United States. It now goes to Home Office Secretary Priti Patel for approval.”
April 20, 2022 at 11:50 am #106438Dr. DParticipant“UK Holds ‘Complex’ Talks over Banning Russian Tennis Ace from Wimbledon”
Do they have some idea how stupid they look? This is going to go into the history books as “Stupid, useless, and embarrassing.” It’s actually just racist.
“In Biden’s Annual Economic Report, the Word “Gender” Is Used 40 More Times than the Word “Inflation”
That’s because the number of genders is inflating way faster than 20% a year. Every time I mention it I shake my head and say, “should I?” but seriously, am I going to give up on the hill that says essentially there are two genders? If there are no genders you can’t be gay, so I knuckle down and have to fight hard for gay rights. …Didn’t see that coming.
Inflation, MMT:
https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/2022-04-19_10-53-39.jpg?itok=dIU1IPGaC’mon, when has doubling the money supply in two years ever caused inflation? Except for “every time in recorded history”? Goooo MMT. Let’s hear from Keen. (P.S. this was all supposed to fall on Trump which is why they didn’t care.)
“German Industry Fears Immediate Russian Gas Ban”
Clearly German industry is not in charge. Who is?
“When the farmers cut fertilizer use, they accept that they will get lower profit.”
This is not necessarily true. It’s one of those Prisoner’s Dilemma games. If NOBODY used the extra fertilizer, then prices and demand would equalize. …And the soil might be better. But EVERYBODY uses it, so production is higher and prices lower. If you don’t, you’ll be down some % and get run over because there isn’t any margin to lose. But right now, roughly speaking ALL will not be using it, or reduced to the same point, say 50%. Then prices equalize again. If you can use 60% you win. If 40% you lose. But this year nobody knows where the point is, having never been here before.
Anyway, if they ALL cut fertilizer use, they get HIGHER profit. Or could. This is true of herbicide, pesticide, using cultivation instead, etc. I don’t really expect them to make headlines that complicated, but it’s an interesting thought experiment. And would come in handy right now if they had used soil health instead of chemicals. All to shave that 9%
“California Grocery Workers Score Double-Digit Raises After ‘Unified And Militant’ Threat To Strike” “The companies were afraid…”
The workers now have the power…
“One thousand one hundred four”
That’s not including his previous lockup and house arrest, nor the high security measures he had to take before. Almost a whole adult lifetime?
But if Julian is extradited, it depends on what he says. Reading 96 hours into the Congressional Record would be illuminating, followed by the Supreme Court ruling that there’s no jurisdiction. Don’t think failure: it depends what happens.
“There Has Been No Talk of Peace, Only War (Celente)”
Quite the opposite: they said they were getting nukes and taking back Crimea.
“Given the potential desperation … none of us can take lightly the threat posed by a potential resort to tactical nuclear weapons or low-yield nuclear weapons,”
So the U.S. is going to try to set off a tactical nuke. Got it.
Can Russia do it? Yes. We are in a world of battlefield tactical nukes. One was probably used in Syria and one in Ukraine back in 2015. Not the sort of thing anyone admits or gets good intel on, but generals want to use their toys.
What happens to weapons sent to Ukraine? There’s always the Kiev Middle School Band. Actually, I bet some huge portion are sold worldwide for cash. 30%? If I were the Russians, I’d print money, pose as an arms dealer, and buy them.
“poverty of emotion, and a lack of remorse or shame.”
There’s a key indicator we have that they don’t: doubt. I could be wrong. They’re “always wrong but never in doubt.”
“what he calls the third great fraud in his lifetime,”
I must have missed all the arrests from the first two. Also there are way more than three. They have possibly double-counted or more all the existing NYSE stock in CEDE, mostly to naked short their enemies. The entire U.S. or world stock markets being irreversible, irreparable frauds, that therefore are ponzis that can never pay out their pensioners, might be counted “great”. And it may not be the largest out there.
“Except, they’re giving the CDC more powers, no matter how badly it failed.”
Clearly they did what they were told, what they wanted, or else they would be mad at them.
“DOJ To Appeal Court Decision to Overturn Mask Mandate, if CDC Asks (CTH)”
I’m sooo tired. Why are we discussing this? It is not now, nor never was a law. It was totally illegal and didn’t exist. I don’t talk about laws we never passed to wear pancakes on our head either. Shows people no longer obey laws, they obey POWER. By design. Nobody cares what the law is or isn’t. They no longer even look, and the Judges no longer care.
“ CDC Removes All Countries from COVID-19 ‘Do Not Travel’ List (Reason)”
As we said last time and were right: this will reappear the day after the midterms.
“Treasury Bond Massacre, Mortgage Rates Hit 5.35%, and It’s Only April (WS)”
They are sixteen hikes behind the curve and rising fast. At the rate we’re going (1 per quarter) he’ll catch up by 2050. I’m sure this won’t have any bad effects on housing, economy, or markets.
Oh and the Yen carry trade may have finally exploded too.
So is the Fed responsible? As they’ve held rates too low for a mere 22 years in a row? Against all warnings and inflation over 2% for a year now? And no rate hikes? And this is their only mandate: 1) Inflation 2) Economy.
“Clinton Campaign: Fusion GPS Provided Legal Advice (Techno Fog)”
Suddenly everyone in Washington is a lawyer working for the Clinton Campaign. Huh. But they were all objective, uninterested parties when we asked back in 2016. That’s what he told the CIA when he fabricated phone pings on a spreadsheet for no monetary or political reason whatsoever.
And what the CIA said when they received that totally fake data…that was domestic…and was election tampering…and they said nothing about how it was all fake and they knew it for the next 6 years. Ah, daily presidential impeachments by parties fabricating data, sleeping with Chinese agents, while taking billions from foreign powers and selling all the U.S.’s uranium. What does that have to do with spies and national security? I can’t think of anything. Carry on, good sir.
“ Taylor Lorenz Is Simply Following the New Rules of Journalism (Miller) “
This is interesting, but why are they mad? People openly posted actual opinions, which are not presented out of context. It’s what they said, and what those people wanted to say, and what they believe.
…Oh yeah: the truth is the only enemy. We attack the truth and whoever presents it, wherever they are found.
Down on the ground this is probably some nobody who just started this on a lark. It got big and they moved from pistol-sniping to daisy-cutter fuel bombs being dropped on their head. That’s the strange new war where any random civilian can find themselves suddenly targeted with the nuclear codes – no time to adjust to the new reality, no reason to prepare for it beforehand.
We haven’t seen Lira and it was hard to see how he was staying alive even weeks ago. So can any citizen bring charges against the Daily Beast for killing him? Or do you need special standing like a family member? That’s what Lorenz is doing right now to new victims. Pure tolerance, love, and light. Getting your enemies killed = the right side of history. And also lying in denial you have any responsibility.
Yes, TikTok short is not my form. It’s hard to take. However, for nurses who work 12h 3x and crash, stealing a few minutes may be the thing. I think women like the episodic saga approach. To me, a 300 page book is too short, but think about this: as even Raul has to post more video format, how much important info is locked in these instagram forms and we’re not aware of it? Yes, 99% of it is trash, but that’s also true of YouTube. My problem is I need it aggregated into 20 vid highlights not to waste my time.
For going further out, I feel like TAE is a doorway between old news and new things. If you go out as far as the weird, weird world actually is, in satellites and DARPA scientists locked in DUMB bunkers, it would read as straight sci-fi and help no one. How can I tell? There ARE such sites all over the internet. And they are ignored. Because the readers need to do the research to find out what’s plausible and why. But the world does need a doorway and we can be that. A wide gate not a narrow one to allow more people through than just a few cranks who can’t stop needing to know.
But there’s a far more immediate problem: I can’t prove it. By definition, because they’re not going to release records, notes, ledgers, any more than they have, which is quite a bit, actually. So I’m connecting dots, like any journalist can draw conclusions, but I can’t get statements, can’t subpoena records, and couldn’t trust the records if I could. ($40T missing from internal Federal budgets, now hidden behind FINRA). What do I do then? We can’t move further than the evidence.
April 20, 2022 at 12:31 pm #106439Michael ReidParticipant”
Dr. Jessica Rose discusses the fraud we’ve all experienced over the past few years in relation to the pandemic. The data shows negative efficacy regarding the COVID19 vaccine, meaning that it’s actually hurting you. If they can lie about issues surrounding COVID19 so easily, then what have they been lying about the whole time? She goes into the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and how the adverse event and death reports related to COVID19 injections are off the chart. The FDA and CDC are not even looking at the data. She believes the vaccine is a segueway into introducing new injection platforms, normalizing injections, and digitizing the human. She agrees the goal of the Vaccine Passports is to install the Social Credit System. The WHO Pandemic Treaty will be the total loss of sovereignty for all countries and individuals. That’s the end.
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I see Germ also linked from Jessica Rose siteDr. Jessica Rose: COVID Vaccines to Digitize Human, Pandemic Treaty Total Loss of Sovereignty
Off into the woods I go. Baking homemade bread later today.
April 20, 2022 at 12:41 pm #106440Mister RobotoParticipantCovid may be accurately described in many ways, but “snake venom” is most certainly not one of them.
April 20, 2022 at 12:49 pm #106441Formerly T-BearParticipantR.I.M. @ #106437
Goes to show the British Judiciary are nothing but a¢¢holes, everything that comes out of them smells like sh*t. Defenestrate the whole establishment all together; after a thousand years it’s time for a change, the public is too inured and apathetic to pull their faces from their porridge.troughs – sheeple indeed.
April 20, 2022 at 1:36 pm #106442zerosumParticipant“end of humanity”
Somewhere …. it will continue ….
Look at …… after the war in Ukraine …. after the flood …. after natural disasters …. after covid-19 …. after the vaccines
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More and more sources of new/opinions/bloggers are behind “pay-for-view”
“deterioration of the economy in the West.”https://trendsinthenews.substack.com/p/western-sanctions-against-russia?s=r
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What goes up must come down.
Using Metal detectors, to search for valuables, in Ukraine, will be overwhelmed
(swamp · submerge · engulf · bury · deluge · flood · inundate · clog · saturate · glut · overload · beset · overburden · snow under), with spent projectiles
———April 20, 2022 at 1:40 pm #106443oxymoronParticipantI’m with Formerly T-Bear. The whole system is collapsing when you have this. The public complicit by their inaction. Same as getting jabbed and doing what they are told. Social Credit and Orwell are kinda here just beta version.
April 20, 2022 at 1:45 pm #106445userzeroidParticipantIt just gets worse and worse. Assange at the hands of Priti Patel… If she had her way Assange would just be hung without trial. We’re done. Finished.
The British public are generally so apathetic they did nothing to even defend their own rights during covid, what hope do we have of a critical mass stepping upto the plate when the wikileaks founder gets extradited?
April 20, 2022 at 1:49 pm #106446John DayParticipantAn odd thing just happened.
I wrote an essay about the discussion here yesterday and today, about the “Overton Window” we keep repositioning, and I hit SUBMIT, and it disappeared. I back-spaced to it, hit SUBMIT, and it said “it looks like you’ve already said that”, but the text was not anywhere to be found.I’ll try this, then I’ll try breaking it up.
April 20, 2022 at 1:51 pm #106447oxymoronParticipanta few cranks who can’t stop needing to know.
Guilty…Now if I could just fine tune my perception
April 20, 2022 at 1:51 pm #106448John DayParticipantThat worked.
Let’s try fractional-re-posting:@VP Gary, who I read, D Benton Smith who opened the can of worms, Dr. D who supplies worms by the bucket, V.Arnold who thinks getting extincted is beyond-the-pale, and everybody else who contributed, and it was all with feeling…
“Overton Window” is functionally what we are willing to openly discuss on a format.
The Triumverate For The World has a particular view of the western-elite owners and their schemes, which I am unable to refute or confirm. I am willing to keep it on the back burner of possibility, but I’m better able to do this than most people are. I don’t recall his being mocked or derided here, as he would be on other blogs.
We are experiencing difficulty explaining our spiritual lives. I get it, Archie. It’s hard to discuss, and you can’t graph out the movement of the planets to confirm it “objectively”.
I do advocate being guided by divine truth, and I don’t try to give lessons, other than “want to be guided by divine truth” and “keep taking little steps, so it can become a little clearer”.
Like “grow vegetables”, “ridea bike” and “be a neighbor”, i can’t give more elaborate advice than what I am doing (not merely planning) myself. We do have some beans, rice, oil, salt, olive oil, canned goods, etc. What if the gas, water and electricity went out? Yeah, we’d be no better off in 2 weeks, though the first week, like in the February 2021 Texas Deep Freeze, might see us fare better than many.
In prepping for Mad Max, one fails to prep for the years before Mad Max, and also the fact that the country folk know where the bunkers are…
Hawaiians joke that the gated communities of “haoles” are their food reserves when the boats stop coming, and it’s not just what’s in the pantries…
My physical worldview involves the persistence of traits within a gene-pool, and the assumption that trait-persistence provides some benefit to the gene pool. I wondered long and hard about the persistence of sociopathic traits, not just in Eurasian gene-pools, but in the new-world, also, as evidenced by the Mayan Collapse and all the massive human sacrifice to the Sun God, sacrifice of those not “pleasing the gods”, like the neighbor-community…
I concluded (open to discussion) that the sociopaths killing off a lot of the people when food gets scarce is a survival benefit to the gene pool. Non-sociopaths follow orders in times of famine and war, follow orders without questioning… It appears to me that sociopaths ENJOY this kind of “work”, which they “should”, in order to be good at it.
V.Arnold is right, as I see it, to doubt a conspiracy to extinct the human species, but a lot of species have been extincted in the last century, most of them in the last 40 years, and it does not seem to have been intentional, either.
The technology is powerful and execution is sloppy. We can all see scenarios where 90% human extinction could occur. That is seen as a goal by some, whether attained gradually or somewhat faster.
We still wonder about that Deagle prediction for 2025. Wassup widdat?
Coming back to limits of finite fossil fuel, lithium, and rare-earths, in a polluted and toxic world, we should ask, “what’s the end game?”. Our owners read Limits To Growth in 1973, mulled it over awhile, then decided to openly deny it since Reagan/Thatcher. I think they decided to make a world for themselves, and find ways to exclude “others”. I’m in the “others” category by default, and also by choice. Catherine Austin Fitts has long discussed this (but I don’t pay to read it. I just accept the concept.)
I personally seek guidance, spiritual guidance, direct inspiration, and I am open to it, and wish it would come more regularly and frequently, because I’m somewhat impatient, like D Benton Smith… I’m insecure, too. Doubts arise… It’s nice when serendipitous things happen. I feel reassured, for awhile…
There is work i can do that I’m sure is good work, not just physically preparing and sharing life path and experiences with others, but meditative work, spiritual work.
It’s difficult to explain, but going within, experiencing, not-forcing, being open to discovery and revelation, and open to nothing-much-this-time and open to a brain-full-of-thoughts-again, appears to be the window to going beyond self, also. One may be empathic without another person nearby, or even clearly in mind, like a radio transmitter-receiver. This is a practice, beginning with noticing feelings and going into them, and doing the same again, another time. You don’t have to sit. My bike-commutes, back when I was employed as a doctor, were an hour each way, and I felt like I was sharing the vibes of those along the way, often feeling sadness, often in the same points of the ride…
It could just be my imagination. I didn’t hurt anybody, and I’m not afraid to share it here.Let’s see if this flies…
April 20, 2022 at 1:54 pm #106450oxymoronParticipantOh and the Prince of Darkness goes by the name ‘Charles’
April 20, 2022 at 1:55 pm #106451kolyaParticipantAnother classic TAE.
> V Arnold, I’d love to hear about the Thai characteristics of critical thinking – Fail.
Julian Assange, still a hero.
Contrarian investment advice: accumulate morals now during this fear cycle.
April 20, 2022 at 1:55 pm #106452John DayParticipantHmm, the last part appears to have been more dangerous or threatening. I had a linkt to Plato’s “Noble Lie” Wikipedia entry. I’ll get that out of the way first:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_lie#:~:text=In%20politics%2C%20a%20noble%20lie,as%20described%20in%20The%20Republic.April 20, 2022 at 1:57 pm #106453John DayParticipantMaybe I can break-u p the rest of the missive a bit. It was rejected without “It looks like you’ve already said that” response.
Oops, I lost it…
April 20, 2022 at 2:02 pm #106454John DayParticipantRetrieved it… Trying again:
.I think things are going okay because I have set the bar fairly low for enlightening-discourse. It can only go so far, as I see it. We’re doing ok here, I think.
Our discourse has progressed into the obviousness of disinformation-conspiracy since 2016.
I’ve been a little part of moving Mr. Overton’s window, but all of us have had perceptual adjustments, especially during COVID.We are mostly in that 30% who don’t trust vaccines and don’t trust the Putin-Bad narrative, with all of the puzzling overlap between the two categories, though not if you subscribe to Plato’s “noble lie” theory that elites manage society with control-narratives.
We appear to be in a “super-cycle” economically, the end of 250 years of human expansion based upon fossil fuels. I have accepted it since 1974, maybe March or so, when a teacher spent a 10th grade sociology class period discussing The Limits To Growth. It made perfect sense during the Arab Oil Embargo.
I am determined to do my best to prepare for a world of much less energy by making food growing systems that require just a little, in a place where food grows well, and you can survive the weather year round. I’ve designed, and am building a house that would be livable in the mid 1800s, when German and Bohemian farmers fled war and settled to farm the Texas Coastal Plains. It was never a slave economy, and many people there today are descended from those settlers.
I do not have a physical alternative plan to propose as a replacement for the Apex-Predator-of-Apex-Predators sociopathic-rule paradigm.
I seek to follow spiritual guidance.We can’t talk about smothering mentally retarded babies at birth, or girl babies, or eugenics, because these are ugly, but somehow we can kill Iraqi children, or have them killed in our names, if we don’t have to know about it.
I can work on human-living-with-less-resource-and-energy-consumption, so I do that. It’s a path, not a destination.
John
April 20, 2022 at 2:06 pm #106455KassandraParticipantWow V. Arnold, what a mean spirited post.
I come here to hear different opinions from people that write with wit and wisdom. D Benton Smith I appreciated your thoughts yesterday, even though I personally have a hard time believing in that much evil. I personally think we are somewhere in between. I think there is no doubt that people like Bill Gates have passed over into “evil” and do want to both radically reduce the population while controlling those who are left in extremely sinister ways. I have had the unfortunate luck to be in the company of millionaires and billionaires in my life, none of them were nice people or cared one bit about the average person. I have seen it up close and personal, on vacation with them and spent personal time talking with them. They all made my skin crawl and made me realize that what goes on in the spaces they inhabit really is a form of “conspiracy” against most of humanity.
My former job was at one of the top research universities in the world, and I have said it before, you could tell this (covid and the response) was all planned and coordinated. It spooked me enough to quit my job, take an enormous paycut, walk away from a sweet pension, and move 1000 miles away from there.
It’s important we talk about this stuff and not ridicule each other.
April 20, 2022 at 2:40 pm #106456GermParticipantThe good news is that Julian Assange most probably won’t be going to the US.
The sad news is that it’s because he will likely end his own life in Belmarsh.
It is beyond shameful what they’ve done to him.And more from the unfolding Covid circus/ catastrophe:
“To date (in the US) , only one of the covid claims has been deemed compensable, although no money has been paid yet. In contrast, Thailand’s National Health Security Office reports compensating over 14 000 people around $50m to settle covid vaccine injury claims through a process that promises quick financial assistance.”.
“Covid-19: Is the US compensation scheme for vaccine injuries fit for purpose?”
https://www.bmj.com/content/377/bmj.o919.full
Of course, the real issue is that the vaccines themselves are not fit for purpose!
April 20, 2022 at 2:52 pm #106457Figmund SreudParticipant@Dr. John Day – Re. Plato’s “Noble Lie”
_____________________An interview of a critic of Leo Strauss – c.2003 – on this topic. Snip:
“There are indeed three types of men: the wise, the gentlemen, and the vulgar. The wise are the lovers of the harsh, unadulterated truth. They are capable of looking into the abyss without fear and trembling. They recognise neither God nor moral imperatives. They are devoted above all else to their own pursuit of the higher pleasures, which amount to consorting with their puppies or young initiates.
The second type, the gentlemen, are lovers of honour and glory. They are the most ingratiating towards the conventions of their society that is, the illusions of the cave. They are true believers in God, honour, and moral imperatives. They are ready and willing to embark on acts of great courage and self-sacrifice at a moments notice.
The third type, the vulgar many, are lovers of wealth and pleasure. They are selfish, slothful, and indolent. They can be inspired to rise above their brutish existence only by fear of impending death or catastrophe.
Noble lies and perpetual war: Leo Strauss, the neocons, and Iraq
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/article_1542jsp/Best,
F.S.
April 20, 2022 at 2:53 pm #106458NoiretteParticipantDBS posted. But the point I need to convey is that there are other RELATED AND PERTINENT (AND YET DIFFERENT), advanced and urgent, “topics” that I must attend to.
DBS, Well I sure don’t know what the higher order of things in the Universe is. (I realise that wasn’t precisely the question adressed, my free wheeling interpretation.)
The Earth is composed of dissipative structures. It is subject to forces (Universe) we don’t understand, though we piddle about with the laws of physics in our own little corner. Even these seem off at times, as incomplete, folklorish, whatever. I remember at school I could not believe the moon regulated tides. Heh. (I still don’t.. but haven’t thought about it for decades..)
To see or feel that organizing principles are embodied into some kind of higher order entities – God, Deities, Celestial Forces – who actually take decisions (usually painted as resting on moral grounds, whatever they might be..) of one kind or another seems natural from a human pov, as we predict the future and take decisions that shape it, well, so OK. I’m agnostic on all that, I don’t know, and reckon I will never know, and I’m fine with that. My concerns are more mundane and practical, so what are the urgent topics, understood that views may differ wildly..? They stretch from local trivialities (not trivial for those dealing) to grand philosophical stances or what?
As for the global conspi. to end humanity, I’m ready to take up that topic…remember the rich cannot live without minions and expect sexy slaves as their right.
April 20, 2022 at 3:34 pm #106459NoiretteParticipantHeh Zelensky is so pathetic Idk where to begin.
Ukraine. This is both a civil war – part of the ex-USSR against another part – therefore Russia’s tag of special military operation as if it was their territory, which in a way it is. And a proxy war – the US vs. Russia on the lands of Ukraine, the US determined to fight the Russkies to the last Ukrainian. In that sense there are similarities with Syria, though differences as well.
Past times.
Contra Iraq invasion, 2003. Schroeder and Chirac refused to join and Blair had major difficulties (RIP David Kelly), leading to massive delays to the bombing and murder, finally it went thru but the coalition was ‘slim’ and Booted Bremer was a lonely figure, the support was fig-leaf, and hyped.
Then for Syria, because of Iraq, Cameron called a vote to Parliament which did not support the invasion and did not join.
So then the USA ordained: Never Again.
Never again would these F*** the EU countries be allowed to opposed the Pax Americana.
How they achieved that idk though I have some ideas.
April 20, 2022 at 3:41 pm #106460TAE SummaryParticipantThe Key Signs of an Empire in Decline from The Fate of Empires by John Glubb
* Intellectualism and a decline of religion
* An influx of foreigners
* Internal hatreds
* Affluence, materialism and frivolity
* The largess of the welfare state
* Selfishness, the love of money and a loss of the sense of dutyIt is sadly comforting to realize that the US collapse is just part of the natural cycle and is inevitable.
April 20, 2022 at 3:43 pm #106461Formerly T-BearParticipantWarning: Minority Report
I do not “do” social media in any form at any time.
TAE of late is reading like social media.
Once some time ago the site subsisted to large extent on factual exchange and considered opinions.
Facts are facts only if they can be proven or disproved.
Beliefs, faith, religion, doctrine, theology, ideology, creeds, cults and cannon all cannot be disproved or proved – they are not factual although they may be fact in they exist.
Please refrain from making judgments about others based on your non-factual mindset (or anything you learned or remember from MBA Econ 101).
There are probably other sites available for your opinions, please express them there and allow R.I.M. to conduct HIS site as he deems fit, the presentation of newsworthy flotsam and jetsam from various media in aggregation.
Many thanks.April 20, 2022 at 3:45 pm #106462Mr. HouseParticipant“factual exchange and considered opinions.”
Is anyone even able to discern what those are anymore?
April 20, 2022 at 4:02 pm #106463Formerly T-BearParticipantMr. House,
Probably not. Little current evidence available. May be at point of extinction now.April 20, 2022 at 4:59 pm #106464Michael ReidParticipantI agree Mr. House. What is real regarding the world is very difficult to determine.
@ FS
I enjoyed reading about the three types of men and it left me thinking that we are likely a combination of the various types.
I see myself as a fearless truth seeker. I have a clear sense of what is right and wrong but at this point all I can say about that is this sense comes from within me (my logic and feeling). While do believe in honor a life of self sacrifice would be a wasted life from my perspective. Regarding the third type I definitely love pleasure and I am of the opinion that it is one of the greatest joys in life.
Something to reflect on and it is back into the woods for me.
April 20, 2022 at 5:03 pm #106465Figmund SreudParticipantIt’s fascinating how the rule of law rulings sometimes do work!
Latest: … Russia’s recent payment in ₽s on two $ bonds was ruled a “potential default” by a “derivatives panel”
Yes, … the derivative panel: “The Credit Derivatives Determinations Committee” ruled that a “potential failure-to-pay event” occurred for credit-default swaps when Russia made the payment in ₽s.
Now, … normally, Russia exchanges ₽s into $s at some foreign bank and makes the payment in $s, … but this time, some foreign bank declined to process $ transfers, … so Russia paid in ₽s. And so, now, Russia is in default. Cool!
F.S.
April 20, 2022 at 5:08 pm #106466John DayParticipant@Figmund Sreud: I think there may be more than those 3 types of men. I don’t see Gandhi or Buddha in there, maybe not even Elon Musk.
I am reading about Leo Strauss and his take on Plato, as you counseled. This jumps out at me:
“The effect of Strausss teaching is to convince his acolytes that they are the natural ruling elite and the persecuted few. And it does not take much intelligence for them to surmise that they are in a situation of great danger, especially in a world devoted to the modern ideas of equal rights and freedoms. Now more than ever, the wise few must proceed cautiously and with circumspection. So, they come to the conclusion that they have a moral justification to lie in order to avoid persecution. Strauss goes so far as to say that dissembling and deception in effect, a culture of lies is the peculiar justice of the wise.”
It’s a secret society of the powerful. What’s not to like, if you’re in it?
Signal virtue by lying to the herd?
Right-On!April 20, 2022 at 5:14 pm #106467my parents said knowParticipantSo does Musk take this as a holiday? Or is he going to make it a day to remember?
April 20, 2022 at 5:15 pm #106468BishkoParticipantThe Resilient Gardener, Carol Deppe recommends you raise, Potatoes, Corn, Beans, Winter Squash and Ducks. This spring may be the last time you can reasonably expect to get started before it’s too late.
“The Secret of Success is Constancy of Purpose.” — Benjamin Disraeli
April 20, 2022 at 5:19 pm #106469John DayParticipantMore on Leo Strauss:
“Strauss is a nihilist in the sense that he believes that there is no rational foundation for morality. He is an atheist, and he believes that in the absence of God, morality has no grounding. Its all about benefiting others and oneself; there is no objective reason for doing so, only rewards and punishments in this life.
But Strauss is not a nihilist if we mean by the term a denial that there is any truth, a belief that everything is interpretation. He does not deny that there is an independent reality. On the contrary, he thinks that independent reality consists in nature and its order of rank the high and the low, the superior and the inferior.”
@Bishko: Carol Deppe lives in the Pacific Northwest. I also recommend her books, but you have to modify them for your specific location. I have tried a LOT of what she recommends. Texas is several different kinds of different.
Start gardening, no matter what.April 20, 2022 at 5:33 pm #106470willemParticipant@Dr. D: Good point regarding the profit picture for growers cutting back on fertilizers. Not to be forgotten is that organic farmers and those others who have been practicing sustainable agriculture will find their asking prices can now be more competitive. Also, their profit margins will jump for two reasons: their costs will not rise, and their yields will not shrink.
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