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    Henri Matisse Open window, collioure 1905   • Europe Warned Of Danger For Many Winters To Come (RT) • Europe’s Economic And Social Suicide (MoA)
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 30 2022]

    #114631
    Afewknowthetruth
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    The troll tells us that pumping CO2 into isolated systems encourages forces plants to grow more quickly.

    What relevance that has to our global predicament eludes me.

    What the troll doesn’t mention is that plants grown in highly elevated conditions reduce the number of stomata in their leaves to compensate for the high CO2 level.

    Nor does the troll mention that ‘food’ grown under such artificial conditions looks great but lacks the nutritional value of food grown properly [under natural conditions]

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    #114632
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Ah, but we are ‘saved’ from the menace of Abrupt Climate Change (Planetary Meltdown). A bought-and-paid-for liar that no one in the scientific community has ever heard of tells us there is hope because ‘we are going in the right direction’!

    ‘The right direction’: Top climate scientist’s surprisingly optimistic message on climate change’

    ‘Foley said he had been quite pessimistic for decades, but there are now heaps of reasons why his outlook has turned sunny.

    “The unveiling of renewable energy sources like solar and wind, which are now cheaper than fossil fuels in most of the world.”

    And it’s not just the high-tech sector helping out; the world’s biggest players are finally getting the message.

    “We’re seeing a lot of governments and private sector actors put billions of dollars into climate solutions.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/the-right-direction-top-climate-scientist-s-surprisingly-optimistic-message-on-climate-change/ar-AA11gq2P?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=71e29ce792b640318defd00bea25353b

    Yeah, right! That must be why the atmospheric CO2 content of the air continues to rise at an ever-increasing rate (as does the methane) and why the ocean acidity continues to increase.

    Gotta keep the proles trapped in the Matrix and believing.

    Actually, I would not be at all surprised if next year’s CO2 increment is a lot greater than last year’s, what with European governments completely losing control and people burning whatever they can find to keep warm -trees, old tyres, plastics, pianos, municipal buildings….

    #114633
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    The coming 12 months will be a very good test of the ‘McPherson Paradox’

    Emeritus professor Guy McPherson claimed in 2016 (and still claims) that a reduction in global economic activity of 30% will be sufficient to trigger a very much faster meltdown than we are currently witnessing, due to ‘loss of aerosol masking’. He claimed (claims) that a 30% reduction in economic activity will lead to a spectacular rise in temperature of the order of 3oC ‘in a matter of months’ and that the last human would (will) die in 2026 because the pollution in the atmosphere that prevents heat from reaching the Earth will be very much reduced.

    I debated this matter with McPherson because he had cherrypicked data, had deliberately misinterpreted a report and had ignored counter evidence. He shut down the comments section of his website in response to being successfully challenged.

    The basis of the McPherson Paradox is that following 9/11, all airlines were grounded for 3 days, and during that period Travis measured a substantial increase in diurnal range, i.e. clean air was allowing more heat to arrive at the surface.

    What McPherson did not like to admit is that clearer air also allowed more heat to escape at nighttime.

    So, we will see who was (is) right fairly soon, since China is struggling to keep factories running [due to the ongoing drought], consumers worldwide are feeling pessimistic and cutting back on purchases, and Europe is committing industrial suicide,

    It was all a bit of a pity because, although not particularly academically bright, McPherson did have many good things to say until he got out of his depth.

    https://guymcpherson.com/

    #114634
    Just Some Randomer
    Participant

    @afewknowthetruth

    Amazing how so many people have been fooled into obsessing over such an obvious distraction as ‘Climate Change’ when there is a list as long as one’s arm of far more pressing things that will destroy our Earthly habitat looong before a bit of weather change does – overpopulation, plastic and chemical pollution, overfishing, habitat destruction, eroding topsoils and so on but yeah – let’s worry about some hypothetical issue that may (or may not) become a problem in 100 years. ‘Cos we can ‘Fix’ climate change by buying new ‘Green’ stuff right? Whereas the other issues – well there’s no profit in dealing with those – is there?

    #114635
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Fascinating.

    #114636
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    10YT 3.11%….

    The system is dying (being killed)

    #114637
    russellnblbs
    Participant

    Is there potential for massive immigration from Europe to Russia?

    The more I think about it, the more it seems to make sense that the Indo-Europeans might return home (kurgan hypothesis). Russia doesn’t have the same Puritan streak as the rest of Europe, and has actually managed to preserve a lot of European culture, rather than tearing their history down. Plus they have oil and gas.

    The Tolstoy/Dostoyevsky dichotomy is interesting here – Tolstoy hated the west, but in hating it showed himself to be a tired westerner at heart, in the same vein as Marx. Dostoyevsky could see its satanic streak, but still managed to love it, and therefore showed himself to be truly Russian, youthful in spirit and birthing something new. This is what the west cannot understand about Russia – they still love us, despite our flaws.

    “I want to travel in Europe, Alyosha, I shall set off from here. And yet I know that I am only going to a graveyard, but it’s a most precious graveyard, that’s what it is! Precious are the dead that lie there, every stone over them speaks of such burning life in the past, of such passionate faith in their work, their truth, their struggle and their science, that I know I shall fall on the ground and kiss those stones and weep over them; though I’m convinced in my heart that it’s long been nothing but a graveyard.”

    #114638
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “DOJ Admits ‘Limited Set’ of Seized Trump Docs May Be Privileged” “That potentially contain attorney-client privileged information…”

    That would be illegal. And he punk’d them into looking like idiots who should be shut down. You’d think after 6 years they’d stop falling for the same pass play. He only has like two moves. But like the Coyote, they fall for them 100% of every episode.

    “Reports of US Embassy Being Evacuated as Baghdad’s Green Zone Breached”

    Took long enough. Remember Iraq is majority Shia. Like Iran. That’s why, democracy? That will vote Iran into power? As “W” say: “Mission Accomplished.” So, Mr. Israel, thanks to involving the United States, you have doubled Iranian land and power. Excellent planning there.

    Not as excellent as this: “US Hints at Preparing Military Option against Iran to Israeli Officials”

    We are both attacking Iran and signing peace with them. Or first sign peace, then attacking? “Not Agreement Capable.”

    Speaking of:
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    https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/teaser_desktop_2x/public/2022-08/EUCold2.jpg

    Makes me realize, Ukraine is all about joining Europe. And not Russia. Nuland paid a lot of money for this coup, and F’d the EU. However, whut? Ukraine wants to join a FROZEN Europe, starving and broke? And not the warm, fed, manufacturing area known as Russia.

    Sooooo…. Whut? Keep fightin’ Ukraine. Stay classy. I million men must die for our right to starve and freeze.

    After Ford raises e-Mustang $8000, in an act of pure corporate coincidence,

    With new student loan bailout, “Average Lifetime Earnings of a Gender Studies Grad Rise to $10,000” –BBee.

    Who says governments bend incentives?

    ““I do not think this crisis is going to be limited to just one winter.”

    “I do not think this crisis of me, not buying food for the house will last just one winter. I might not feel like buying food next year either. The grocery might close for lack of me buying. Who knows? ““We should all be very mindful [of] that.”

    Tucker: “The Green New Deal Means [Certain Death]” Vote for me! It constantly comes back to: is this an IQ test or something, doesn’t it?

    ” Europe’s Economic and Social Suicide (MoA)”

    He’s missing the plan. The plan was to conquer Russia and steal their gas and oil by resuming the mass genocide of Slavs. The U.S./NATO was in charge of this since Europe has no army, therefore Europe is run out of D.C. and London. That’s why all the long setup. The electric car scam, the Syrian pipeline war, and also zero LNG terminals, etc. They wouldn’t need LNG since it was NATO 1st strike nuking Moscow and taking the gas.

    This is aside from the other likely scam, that the U.S. has gas and oil on three coasts. Including another North Slope Gawar field at Gull Island. I mean, we’re drilling nothing, but then say there’s nothing there? 1,000 miles at a pop? Uh-huh. Sure pal. I’m sure that’s why we’re hot-leather for the Arctic vs Russia, because there’s nothing there. And why we built all those pipelines through Canada that are so disputed w/ Davos v. U.S. and keep getting shut down? Anyway, we’re not going to pump it for $25/bbl, that would be stupid. We need the RoW to be blown up (Libya) or depleted (Saudi) before we do that. And Russia is neither, which blows up our plan instead.

    Anyway, this was the oil side of the captured, controlled Europe plan. And to get China on the leash; with food and oil. So there’s no suicide. Just a big, 50-year master plan by inbreds, gone totally wrong, with Russia lifting a single, giant finger. And you know how they love their plans. I say this a couple times a year because all the little chess moves confirm it sharply.

    “EU working on ‘structural reform of electricity market’”

    Yes, totally centrally controlled, in Soviet Socialist fashion, this time with a social credit score. Yeah, we know. Have an electric car but said something bad about the Klausinator? No charging stations for you!

    “The study shows that 23% of those polled (more than 2,000 adults) said they will not turn their heating on at all.”

    Must be nice. That is not an option almost anywhere in the ‘States. I guess I shouldn’t say that: not an option because of the type of houses we build here. However, it is code-illegal to build anything ecological, straight from Agenda 21 signed documents each tiny code area adopts.

    “In a television studio in Stoke-on-Trent last month, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak traded blows”

    Where do they find these people? I’m shocked you can find a Truss even with a 30M population to pick out of. And of course the NHS, national health care, is what? Broke. Following the 300 other failed experiments in government care. Why? Well, aside from the government it’s never a good time to fund anything except war, they also have perhaps murdered half their citizens by force of law using the NHS system, and that’s real expensive at first as all the sick and nearly dead bodies come through.

    And they want that system here.

    “We will announce a national strategy at the Conference that identifies actions the government will take to catalyze the public and private sectors to drive transformative change and address the intersections between food, hunger, nutrition, and health,”

    Yikes! This is terrifying. Certain death, additional murder of tens of millions if they start #Helping. Haven’t they helped enough yet? Like Saskatchewan, I hope the states arrest them if they step foot outside D.C. At the moment nearly all our problems come FROM Congress, the Feds, and D.C. Tyson’s monopoly anyone? Arresting Amish? SWAT teaming Milk? Irrational pricing per miles to Wisconsin? Tax incentives for paving farmland? Tax attack on farm family inheritance? Literal free money to BlackRock to bid over every home by $30,000? Collecting farmland into corporate trusts, which are then sold to China? #Helping.

    “Now Donbass is almost destroyed by Russian strikes, devastated.”

    Um, I think he’s forgetting which side shelled it, killing 14,000 civilians. That would be Mr. Ze, personally. It’s also NOT destroyed, it is being rebuilt at lightning speed with Russian money and goods.

    “the country’s military would launch a counteroffensive in the south of the country in August”

    It’s August 30. No offensive. Or were those 20 tanks supposed to be it?

    “UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres that the crisis at Europe’s largest nuclear power station could be resolved by setting up a demilitarized zone around the perimeter.”

    He’s not taking sides. Just abandon the area completely and give it back to Ukraine. That’s how this works.

    “In the early 1990s, Klaus Schwab’s organization implemented a program of recruitment and training for global leaders”

    Uh-huh. Where was the money from? I have a training center too, yet the children of Prime Ministers never seem interested in coming. So why was Das Schwabinator’s program a ‘must have’? Where did they get the memo? Back to #1: “Where was the money from?” Those are the guys I want. Not Captain Blackface, Idiot son at Large.

    “soulless conceptualization of American imperialism.”

    Yes, they’ve certainly taken us over too. Or at Harvard and D.C. at least, which is why they deplore the rest of the country, so, so much.

    “contrary to the notion that he is a Deep State string-puller of the Democratic party, it was George W. Bush and Dick Cheney who not only put Fauci there but created the very framework that the immunologist-physician commands.”

    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? What on earth paradigm of ‘Deep State’ do you use that this sentence makes sense for you? He’s also not “Government”. He’s full government-corporate merger, where they are indistinguishable, that is, a primary element of fascism. But key here is “not government”. Derp State, who occupy this exact location in the landscape: Mil companies, bankers becoming bank regulators, Halliburton being the VP, Raytheon being the DefSec, Monsanto heading the EPA, etc. Are we using a different dictionary here?

    “the United States was sent into near-chaos by the anthrax attacks,”

    Only for idiots like you. The rest of America, all 329,999,465 of us could care less and weren’t afraid in the slightest. Speaking of the Derp State, that sooper-scaaaaary anthrax came from Ft. Deitrick, anyone remember? So the U.S. was bio-attacking…itself? Reporters look into that kind of thing. You’re not a reporter.

    “a sense that the country was under attack by an unseen enemy with unfathomable capabilities.”

    Uh-huh, under attack by the Derp State, the very thing you are writing this article about. Cluephone: it’s for you.

    “Fauci didn’t passively sit on top of the government agency that randomly gave money to a bunch of labs, and somehow one of them in China went rogue, no! Fauci commissioned these experiments.”

    Like that. Any interest in following this AMAZINGLY OBVIOUS line? Nope. It’s the Republicans. Fake WWF Two-Party system camouflage works, 100 years in a row.

    “This is the third time in a hundred-odd years that Germany has attempted suicide, and this time it looks like it’s going to work.”

    This is bananas, but more likely at some point German industrialists will take over, flip East, and send all 100,000 U.S. troops home on a city bus. The 100 year, active Anglo occupation force will end. And in Japan as well. But to pull this off, they need a really big reason. The German PEOPLE have to see and choose it. I see that now.

    “Declare the 2020 Election irreparably compromised and have a new election.”

    He’s setting the stage for events upcoming. We have a few factions right now, and that’s putting it lightly. One of them is the Law and Order party, which is excruciating, slow, and endlessly annoying. We take multiple thousand casualties with this method every day. However, this method, such as Trump is exhibiting, prevents Civil War and does the far more necessary work of waking up the People. If “the Government is the People”, as our system is, then the People cannot be sleeping, or tantrum-toddlers, or scared little girls running away. They need to know, do, and act their duty. Bringing them to that point is long, painful, difficult, maturing process.

    There is obviously a second slice that would like to kick out the maniacs today and make them stop arresting people on a whim, using false, hidden evidence, killing 30,000 red citizens at a pop, and extracting endless taxes from the poorest. To them it’s worth taking up arms, and are only looking for the orders for Boogaloo. That’s understandable. However, it’s not going to be as moral, and suppose such people won: would we have law and order then? A democracy? No, we would have a Junta or warlord of some kind, and the road would just continue, uninterrupted, on the march to Plan 1: Law and Order, a system as established in the Constitution. The shortcut wouldn’t get us anywhere. As most shortcuts don’t. This is on the Red side, to say nothing of the Wall St or WEF factions.

    Third of Pakistan Under Water – Official (RT)”

    Pakistan is notoriously dry. I thought they wanted water. No pleasing some people. Or for climate change, like how Saudi, East Africa, and Libya are greening again returning to the previous 2,000 year cycle, Pakistan goes back to being the cradle of civilization, some of the greatest, most lush cities on earth, rivaling India. To do that, they need the resumption of rains. Here we are, (probably: it will take 100 years to prove it) and they hate it.

    77% graduate, but only 25% can read, meaning only 19% actually graduate properly. And they are giving these same people control over our food system. Okay, well: 80% of your food isn’t going to arrive now! #Helping! Oh and at such great – very great – expense. Actually, that’s wrong too, as the tests have become so watered down, 12 grade competency is what 6th grade competency used to be. Taxes in Chicago, Illinois in general, are something like $6,000/yr for housing (generally school) alone. That’s $500/mo for the privilege of pure failure. Your house will be confiscated and sold shortly, for the honor of supporting such perfect failure.

    There is a troll that claims to want to discuss science. Then when the whole board starts discussing science, calls all the board trolls rather than discussing science. Which has data, hypothesis, reason, and discourse, but does not have emotion or ad hominem attacks. Odd.

    Can we do science now? Let me start: Dinosaurs were doing fine with big animals and lush forests with wildly higher PPM. Why?

    #114639
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Trolls seems a strong term for someone involved in an exchange of ideas. Juss Sayin’ broseffarooney.

    Look all I know is I live in a forest – a shit forest razed by gold mining in the 1850’s by desperate broke-arse Euro-trash that were NOT in on the crown scam to get gold back to London almost for free. This forest is tough as fuck. Sun beats down, rains come, frost comes, draught comes it all changes and we gotta work with what we got – chainsaws, research, watching and observing, laws (which shit me and I break where I see fit) to ultimately leave the forest or friends or family in a better state than it was before we rocked up with our stupid ego. Even under some anthropoogenic change in climate it is totes doable.

    Namely we build a self, then chip away at the self once built to reveal a loving thunder that doesn’t reallly worry too much bout anything but has it’s heart in the right place and gives 2 shits about things that seem to matter while we seem to be here.

    #114640
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Dr D said However, it is code-illegal to build anything ecological, straight from Agenda 21 signed documents each tiny code area adopts.


    Which is why it took soooo long to build my owner-built strawbale. The banks wouldn’t touch it for a loan. The council were a nightmare to deal with and I just straight up lied and scammed to get occupancy. Once in the game as they say. Now I am a legitimate member of society – meaning they think I am forever on the teat of debt-slavery I can get into the real life-hacks.
    It’s not just about it’s ecological nature it is that everything is usually from an industrial base – chip-board, glue-lam timber, plastic clip-lock flooring etc. They DO NOT WANT dirt, mud, grass, dam water, straw, local timber. They get very little money that way. Dick heads

    #114641
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    There is no science supporting the idea that CO2 levels influence global temperatures. The only science shows the reverse. Current CO2 levels reflect global temperatures from 600 years ago! The data comes from ice and sediment cores.

    There was some correlation between CO2 levels and global warming from 1970 to 1998, but correlation is not causation. There may be more correlation NOW as activists began modifying the raw data collected from weather stations over the past 150 years. I think it was to ‘show’ a steeper rise in global temperatures during the 20th century.

    There was a graph of historic global temperatures published in the National Geographic, I think in 1986. Today’s equivalent graph would be unrecognisable in comparison.

    Increased CO2 levels are a good thing. CO2 is essential for plants and they grow far better with more CO2. The effect on plants is easy to demonstrate. Doubling the amount of CO2 shows a huge increase in plant size. This is a repeatable experiment. These huge Dutch style greenhouses often add CO2 to improve the plant growth.

    The greenhouse effect can best be seen in hot deserts. Temperatures in the Sahara for example can fall 30 centigrade overnight, and even 40C, all the way down to freezing, in 12 hours, every night! Not the best greenhouse!

    Finally : the ‘greenhouse effect’ in actual greenhouses was disproved in the 1950s. Two identical enclosures were built with one covered in glass and the other with rock crystal. The glass covered area was 0.1C warmer, so an almost non-existant ‘greenhouse effect’. Greenhouses work by creating a barrier to the outside environment.

    #114642
    John Day
    Participant

    Bill7 posted a lot of good intellectual content yesterday. He likened mobile smart-phone usage to the Enclosures Act, which removed the rights of sharecropping serfs to be on the property of the lord of the manor, freeing it up for sale. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclosure_Acts

    With smartphones tracking position, transactions, and eye movements across a scanned screen, privacy has been removed and placed up for sale, an ongoing auction of each person’s individual thoughts, position and economic actions, and even what images or words his eyes dwell upon for an extra moment.

    #114643
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Yes Bill7 nailed it. I think the enclosures act best describes the interplay between the phone and the self in space.

    #114644
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Even if the 2020 election was stolen from Trump (I’m not 100% convinced, but I think the politicos currently in power are more than capable of such perfidy), I think that calling for reinstatement or a do-over of that election really made him come across as somebody who lacks “chill” and perspective. That’s not a good thing in somebody who would be the leader of a troubled and declining imperial hegemon.

    Besides that, Trump really needs to wake the fuck up and realize that he needs to stop bragging about his role in facilitating the Covid vaccine catastrophe that is currently unfolding.

    #114645
    John Day
    Participant

    I was interested in what debate AFewKnowTheTruth had with Guy McPherson about climate change…
    “The coming 12 months will be a very good test of the ‘McPherson Paradox’
    Emeritus professor Guy McPherson claimed in 2016 (and still claims) that a reduction in global economic activity of 30% will be sufficient to trigger a very much faster meltdown than we are currently witnessing, due to ‘loss of aerosol masking’. He claimed (claims) that a 30% reduction in economic activity will lead to a spectacular rise in temperature of the order of 3oC ‘in a matter of months’ and that the last human would (will) die in 2026 because the pollution in the atmosphere that prevents heat from reaching the Earth will be very much reduced.
    I debated this matter with McPherson because he had cherrypicked data, had deliberately misinterpreted a report and had ignored counter evidence.”

    Thanks for that further information. I met Guy in Austin around 2007 , when he came to give a talk. We exchanged emails, and stayed in communication until about a ear ago when he asked to be removed from the send-list of the blog. He had called me “a brother from a different mother” a couple of years prior to that. I understand that a lot has changed in his life in recent years (wife & location).

    #114646
    Bishko
    Participant

    “Washington has claimed it plans to eradicate hunger in the US completely by 2030.”

    It looks likely that they will reach this goal. Dead people are not hungry.

    #114647

    Bill7- yep.

    socialization. civilization. privatization. financialization. kaput.

    #114648
    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks for constructive input, Oxymoron-in-Oz.

    We can all work together on the common-ground of adapting our own lives to improve our own food, water and fuel security during the not-so-great-reset, which is already upon us.
    There is no safe haven, or there might have been in retrospect 50 years from now, but it’s no knowable today.

    Texas is looking better than I used to think. I was in Hawaii, but now I see that it’s a nuclear target, and people who lived through the dock-worker’s strike in the late 1970s still hoard toilet-paper.

    One might look at Taiwan’s situation that way, also. A friend in a position to know says that the Taiwanese chip factories are putting controlled-demolition plans into place, and that the US military has gotten it’s classified chip manufacturing equipment and information out, moved to the US in recent weeks. Also, critical chips to China have just been cut off. These are war-preparations.
    The same friend says, that the high-level rumor is that the US will nuke China from the ocean for attempting to invade Taiwan, and that Xi has been told this.
    It would be total-obliteration, 20-minutes, no warning, from nuke subs.
    It’s a rumor.

    These are critical times. All of the world depends on global-trade. All the world would do better with 2-3 years to prepare for its sudden end, therefore the initiative to strike now is critical, so all must strike each other right now, before the other can prepare.

    Russia appears to be in the best overall position regarding dependence upon globalism…
    Better than Texas…

    #114649
    zerosum
    Participant

    Common sense
    priority/choose/wake up

    1. heat/energy
    2. food/calories
    3. immigrate/leave/
    4. suffer/die
    5. peace/war
    6. where to move/protect your savings/investments (if you have any)

    #114650
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    It is fascinating to understand just *how* different another system may be.

    Yesterday, Dr D said:
    . Yes, Feudalism was what we know, but it ALSO had unbreakable responsibilities from the Lord to the Serf. Two-way. Like, what happened to elderly farm workers? What happened with the village? Yes, that was all the Lord and Manor’s problem. Which they shirked as all men would, but they did and must for fealty or their name would be mud.

    Compare to our Progress, our better system: under Capitalism, paycheck, the owner has NO responsibility for you the worker. This also changed slowly, but at this point it is essentially universal. Zero two-way. All one-way.

    Under feudalism there was no outside, powerful “authority” to ensure that the feudal chief did his duty by his people. (The only outside, powerful authority was “God.”) The bonds were passed down through story, through mythology. We forget how powerful myth can be because we live in a world where we respect the authority of law that is backed up by a monopoly of force. (The Catholic Church was powerful back then because it had a monopoly on mythology.). I have been reminded of this the past few years as I’ve read Diana Gabaldon’s Outlander book series. One of her main characters was raised to be a feudal chief, and he can’t help but live according to his upbringing in the changing times of the 18th century.

    Mythology can improve/change capitalism. I worked one year as a part time legal assistant in a small family-run law office. I was shocked when I found out that they provided me with paid holidays. Later, I worked for a laboratory owned by the Utah Board of Regents, with a CEO from Sweden. I could donate blood or visit the on-site clinic “on the clock.” The on-site clinic was free to me and my immediate family members. The health insurance was robust and the premiums low — they advertised to new hires that you could have a baby for only the copay of $5. Smoking indoors was not permitted, and quitting was encouraged, but they built a glass room just outside where smoking employees could enjoy their smokes away from the snow and icy wind. When I left they were building an on-site cafeteria and day care center for employees.

    This influenced me. I had an employee for 3 years. I saw it as a “sacred responsibility.” I paid her before I paid myself. Sometimes that meant that I didn’t get paid. We developed a strong friendship, and when my ex was binge drinking and I was running late to get home because I’d been helping a client, I knew the kids would be okay because my employee who was doing bookkeeping out of my home office would also greet the children after school, letting them know mom would be home shortly.

    We rely on laws to control others, to dictate what the government will or will not do, and, in turn, laws are crafted to control us and we chafe. I do not propose that one system is better or preferable to another, but only that there are fundamental differences to each system, we cannot understand other systems until we grasp the fundamental differences. If we do not like our current system, it is wise to study other human systems as it will help us understand what can be changed, how, and that there will always be unpredicted outcomes to change.

    #114651

    Guy McPherson is a worse-than worthless piece of shit. His name should never be mentioned here.

    #114652
    wdt
    Participant

    Troll? listen to the pot call the kettle black
    But I’d much rather read Dr D
    I’m getting rather annoyed with truthy’s spam,
    give it a rest, will you?

    #114653

    “Pentagon stockpiles “uncomfortably low” amid Ukraine transfers, officials admit”. (ZH headline)
    Used to be be a nation wouldn’t announce its lack of preparedness. US says “Hey! Look-ee here, we’re outta arms!” (Oh, where o where does the money go?)

    Things make a lot more sense if I figure organic robot aliens are paving the way to the future.

    #114654
    zerosum
    Participant

    Expand the following though

    ‘The German PEOPLE have to see and choose it. I see that now.”

    In other words
    Here are the facts that I prepared for you to see/to consider/to evaluate, before you decide what to do, before you make up your mind, before you realize the whole truth.

    #114655
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    Hi Oxy. Your light is shining brighter than ever.

    Loved this comment. It is fresh perspective on why we’re here:

    “Namely we build a self, then chip away at the self once built to reveal a loving thunder that doesn’t really worry too much bout anything but has it’s heart in the right place and gives 2 shits about things that seem to matter while we seem to be here.”

    May LOVING Thunder be yours. All Hearts on deck, duty calls.
    LOVE to All.

    #114656
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    wdt: “getting rather annoyed with truthy’s spam …”

    Me, too. So I don’t read it. I side with most others here: bigger problems than CO2 and climate change. That’s not to say we should “quit trying” – of course we should keep trying, and I’m one to point that out when I feel like commenting here. Keep trying no matter what. Be a citizen, ay? 😉

    I agree wholeheartedly with oxy: do the best you can to not be a “consumer” and lighten your footprint. Do the best you can to leave things better than you found them. Also, Oxy, very cool you have a hay bale house. I have friends with one and it’s incredible. Hats off, my friend.

    #114657
    John Day
    Participant

    Ilargi said: “Guy McPherson is a worse-than worthless piece of shit. His name should never be mentioned here.”

    That implies more than intellectual differences, Sir…
    Care to elaborate?

    #114658
    chooch
    Participant

    A Few carries the Diamond Sutra on his back. Meteors are attracted to CO2 rich planets.

    #114659
    zerosum
    Participant

    FYI from ASB militairy news telegram channel;
    Kherson – an example of false propaganda and a successful psychological warfare operation.

    Undoubtedly, Ukraine has been preparing for this war for a long time, many methods and approaches were developed back in 2015, and possibly even earlier.

    Today, in many Western media there is information that the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the very beginning use the “Operational concept of resistance”, which was developed by the United States and allies in the North Atlantic Alliance back in 2013, and allows you to counteract superior enemy forces. This concept provides for an unconventional approach to warfare and total defense, in which both military personnel and the civilian population take part.

    As for the civilian population, we are talking not only about the use of mobilized territorial defense, but also about the promotion of important information and psychological warfare. And in Ukraine, all of that is going well.

    The pumping of panic into Kherson, Kakhovka, Nova Kakhovka and a number of other Russian Armed Forces-controlled settlements did not begin yesterday, but several months before the “counteroffensive” itself.

    There is no doubt that the disinformation crackdown on the topic of “breaking through the Russian defences”, lmassive artillery and rocket attacks”, as well as the activation of the DRG, which began yesterday in the Ukrainian telegram channels & took place simultaneously.. all at once— there’s no doubt that these are links of the same chain — coordinated from one “decision-making center”

    Yes, the lie was total – Ukraine’s MSM unanimously announced the “evacuation” from Kherson, the predetermined future of the entire region, the “historical moment” of the NWO.

    Later, when it became clear that the offensive had stalled, no one was even attempting to refute anything.

    This is a psychological warfare operation, and Kiev has succeeded in it.

    Ukrainian Dominance in the operational information field really caused panic among the Russians and a feeling of “overcoming” among the Ukrainians.

    Although, in fact, there were no Ukrainian tanks near Kherson and Kakhovka.

    The enemy must not be underestimated, modern warfare cannot be viewed solely from the standpoint of military tactics. Ukraine is weaker than Russia in terms of weapons, but they have excellent mentors and good manuals.

    Therefore, the question is: where is Russia’s answer, where are the photos of corpses in the Kherson region which should be released to the public, where is the psychological warfare? Russia still does not have an offensive initiative in the informational space of warfare.

    It is where Russia lacks and Ukraine excels, thanks to western manuals and a great propaganda network thanks to western media. NATO states, especially US and UK are undefeated masters at informational warfare.

    This op-ed is from Boris Rozhin, we added our own bits into it and rewrote it so it’d make sense in English. We were in fact writing something very similar to this but he beat us to it, so all credit goes to Boris.

    Posted by: DutchZ |

    #114660
    zerosum
    Participant

    Repeat of lost post
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/08/ukraine-a-counteroffensive-that-was-destined-to-fail.html#more
    Ukraine – A ‘Counteroffensive’ That Was Destined To Fail
    Yesterday Ukraine launched some kind of offensive in the general Kherson region north of the Dnieper.
    NYT: Ukraine Launches Southern Offensive, as Inspectors Head to Nuclear Plant
    WaPo: Heavy fighting rages in Ukraine’s Russian-occupied south
    CNBC: Battle for Kherson begins as Russia sends in military convoys; nuclear plant shelling intensifies ahead of IAEA visit
    WSJ: Ukraine Aims to Build on Initial Gains in Southern Offensive
    CBS: Inspectors set for crucial visit to Ukraine nuclear plant as Ukrainian forces battle to retake Russian-occupied Kherson
    DN: Ukraine Begins Counteroffensive to Retake Russian-Occupied Kherson
    AJ: Russia-Ukraine live news: Fighting rages in Kherson
    BBC: Kherson: Ukraine claims new push in Russian-held region

    and don’t forget Newsweek —
    >What to Know About Ukraine’s counteroffensive So Far
    >Ukraine Reports Long List of Russian Weapons Destroyed
    >Ukraine Says Kherson HIMARS Strikes Successful
    >Ukraine Counteroffensive Forcing Russia to Deplete ‘Certain Units’: Kirby
    >Russian Forces ‘Under-Manned’ as Ukraine Begins
    >Russia-Installed Kherson Leader Has Fled to Russia

    Posted by: Don Bacon

    #114661
    zerosum
    Participant

    Your leaders are saying
    Here are the facts that I prepared for you to see/to consider/to evaluate, before you decide what to do, before you make up your mind, before you realize the whole truth.

    #114662

    That implies more than intellectual differences, Sir…
    Care to elaborate?

    I can’t, Nicole swore me to secrecy. When he was attacking her in 2013-14, and she dug into his personal life. Last thing about him here.

    #114663
    Bill7
    Participant

    With regard to one of today’s top line quotes: Johns Hopkins on vaccines for “preganant persons”, updated 2/2022:

    “Should people who are pregnant and/or lactating receive the COVID-19 vaccine?

    Yes. Johns Hopkins Medicine agrees with and strongly supports the recommendations of the CDC and its Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) and the Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine (SMFM), which say that all people who are pregnant and/or lactating, along with those trying to become pregnant, should be vaccinated against COVID-19.”

    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/the-covid19-vaccine-and-pregnancy-what-you-need-to-know

    My MD brother is about as inquisitive person a person as you’ll meet. He does not want to talk about the “vaccines”.

    #114664
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Tucker Carlson has many worthwhile things to say. But to describe winter as ‘global cooling’ is plain ridiculous!

    After the period of cooling caused by the tilt of the Earth’s axis, the Northern Hemisphere will begin to warm again as insolation exceeds loss of energy into space, and by next northern summer people will be complaining about the cost of electricity to run colling systems!

    That is if they still have electricity and a financial system in July-August 2023.

    Troll: someone who responds to Internet postings of facts with irrelevant or incorrect material just to create an argument, or because they are attention seekers.

    #114665
    WES
    Participant

    Climate Change:

    I see TPTB have no problem sacrificing their climate change narrative in Eiurope to fight a war with Russia.

    Trying to get Europe to fight an energy war with Russia is stupid! Europe has a deficit of energy. Russia has a surplus of energy. A war won’t change that.

    Europe to burn more coal hurting climate change to hurt Russia! Winning!

    Obviously TPTB are not too worried about climate change. They are more worried about a change in their power climate!0

    #114666
    WES
    Participant

    Climate Change:

    I see TPTB have no problem sacrificing their climate change narrative in Eiurope to fight a war with Russia.

    Trying to get Europe to fight an energy war with Russia is stupid! Europe has a deficit of energy. Russia has a surplus of energy. A war won’t change that.

    Europe to burn more coal hurting climate change to hurt Russia! Winning!

    Obviously TPTB are not too worried about climate change. They are more worried about a change in their power climate!

    #114667
    willem
    Participant

    @Mister Roboto: You nailed it!

    #114668
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    zerosum

    ‘NATO states, especially US and UK are undefeated masters at informational warfare.’

    Spot on!

    An interesting anecdote from yesterday.

    I went to the local supermarket to do my once-a-week shopping. I don’t wear a mask and mask compliance is down from a peak of near-100% to around 60% despite the placard at the entrance.

    At the check-out the cashier commented about Christmas coming – stressful time for staff.

    I said: “Don’t worry about Christmas. It’s cancelled this year.”

    “What to you mean?”

    “Remember the global financial crisis of 2008?”

    Blank look from the check-out operator.

    “Well it’s that but much worse, coming in the next few weeks.”

    “Does that mean Adern will resign?”

    “No. She’s making far too much money to do that.”

    Another customer: “She can’t go anywhere without 30 bodyguards.”

    “Of course she’s following the WEF agenda, of demolition of the NZ economy. And you know who trained her.”

    The other customer: “Helen Clark, the UN and Klaus Schwaab.”

    “Also Tony B Liar.”

    So there you have it. Even in highly propagandised NZ, the tide is turning and those capable of waking up are doing so.

    I blame the Internet, of course.

    It was so much easier to control the population when there was only government-controlled radio and government-controlled newspapers..

    But even in the 1940s people knew the government lied.

    My father told me how the British commonfolk were told: “All our planes returned safely,” even as they saw them being shot down.

    #114669
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    RIM 🙂

    People who lose intellectual debates often resort to ad hominen attacks.

    The unmentionable person tried that on me… and lost.

    I won’t mention anything more about it.

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