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    Vincent van Gogh Almond blossom 1890   • Seymour Hersh Laughs off NYT Article on Nord Stream Culprits (Celente) • ‘Officials’ Throw More Chaff To
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle March 9 2023]

    #130831
    Germ
    Participant

    Watch from the 1min 50s mark – wait for the punchline at the very end.

    Was there anybody NOT damaged by the death vaxx?

    ☠️☠️☠️

    TVASF

    #130832
    Germ
    Participant

    “The governor has been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 and has received at least two booster shots.”
    But Djokovic still can’t enter the US?
    Hahaha …. !!

    Gov. Gavin Newsom tests positive for COVID-19 for 2nd time
    https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/gov-gavin-newsom-covid-19-positive-for-2nd-time/

    TVASF

    #130833
    Germ
    Participant

    What a hoot!

    Researchers working on fentanyl vaccine as drug overdoses spike

    TVASF

    #130834
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Germ. I want to thank you for posting the link to podcast re capitalism/police state –

    I have listened to it 3 times now. The implications are stunning and explain why Russia and the West are so readily using weaponry. Why the war’s big moves are through private aspects (Wagner/Kolomoisky etc). Why the Russians, the Chinese, the Americans, the Europeans etc all implemented police/military campaigns against the human citizenry of the world.
    It explains the nagging issues I have seen with Mass Formation. It explains de-population agendas and the war against popular uprisings. It also undoes some of the beliefs we have here that the West must take Russia to survive. This is a capital accumulation to spend issue and all Oligarchs and Millionaires have to reckon with this.

    Capital is too large to go anywhere except into wealth preservation and accumulation and MUST now go into a global police state. This is as big as Fossil Fuels and accurately describes the implications for the downside.

    As for me, I am left with a moral hazard. I can see clearly that the new oil is not really data. Data is the large component together with weapons, biomedical tyranny, border enforcement, military etc. The real game is controlling the human cattle. Now which stocks are going to go through the roof? I have never invested in a stock in my life but right now I’m thinking “well the people love it, they re-elected all these fuckwits and seem to love their slavery” so which companies are making rubber bullets? Which ones are tracking keystrokes in the workplace? Which ones are making tazers and robot-dogs? Which ones are working on psychological operations? Forget Bitcoin. The new gold rush is the balancing act of killing and controlling over 7 billion people without prospects for personal advancement.
    What a complete shit show.

    William Robinson: How COVID-19 will lead to a global capitalist police state

    #130836
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    “I always thought either Somalia or Nepal were behind it.”
    _______________

    Nothing farther from the truth, … Bali girls did it! Honest, …

    F.S.

    #130839
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Lots from yesterday’s comments (added this morning)

    I see we’re using the 60 year old Clinton today. We have a solution to this war, climate change, and women”: kill 5-6 Billion people. Of course! And – of course – mostly the men people. Like Ukraine! They’re born inferior and evil anyway. Women are far more compliant and less likely to shoot you in the face for trying.

    “Also Sep 2019: Bill Gates buys $30 million in BioNTech stock”

    Was that the ones that had the “chips” inside Hancock promised to inject by “scaring the pants off people” with a “variant” that didn’t scientifically exist? Or was that some other stock purchase?

    My favorite was Amazon. Bought billions in delivery trucks, the month before. Wow! How lucky!

    Historians Wonder” – Babylon Bee.

    My favorite. Or why they didn’t they all die just last year before the invention of the iPhone? Amish kids don’t exhibit this problem either. Golly, whatever could possibly be the cause?

    Also Sep 2019: Bill Gates buys $30 million in BioNTech stock”

    “We Make S—t Up!™” Was the NY Times, but is now the FBI and DoJ too.

    Hersh. I just realized: NY Times, U.S. and none of their gov’t sources know who bombed Nordstream? Huh.

    CIA YOU’RE ALL FIRED. Pull their funding immediately today, apparently you’re incapable of the simplest tasks. …Unless they’re LYING, in which case…

    CIA YOU’RE ALL FIRED. For lying to everyone and pretending you don’t know. …Save us a lot of money.

    Lira, “Can’t be that stupid” on the ludicrous NY Time pipeline story “The Germans are going to use the terrorist attack against their infrastructure as the excuse to pull out of the Ukraine project. Olaf Scholtz went to the US to tell Biden: Either YOU blame Ukraine so we can pull our support for Ukraine—or WE blame YOU and pull out of NATO.”

    That’s why they were just in Ukraine and had a purge: they’re identifying who to pin this on, and if any of the the other players might be good to replace Ze with. Looks like not, so e is going to “Lo!!!” discover!!! Wot there are Nazis! Right here in my Cabinet!???!! Well I have to flee to Miami with all the money and live like a king as Some Random Guido, pretending to the leader of Ukraine. If only there hadn’t been those durn Far-Right, White Supremacists in Ukraine!!! We’ll get ‘em! The FBI, the CIA, and me!

    Yup, that’s how they’re going to cede the country and ‘surrender’ without admitting a thing.

    Whatever. Meanwhile, Trump + Pentagon’s actions have DELIVERED UKRAINE TO RUSSIA FOR REUNIFICATION. That’s a good-faith effort, and Ukraine would have to be purged anyway for it, this just saves them the P.R. nightmare of going door to door and pulling Azovs out of their beds. …Plus ruining the NeoCons here forever.

    Joe Biden approves? That’s funny: every day, if I were in charge of Joe Biden, I’d have him do exactly what he’s doing. Is that some kind of miraculous coincidence? How can Joe Biden always do exactly what helps the Nationalists and hurts the Davos?

    “EU Threatens Georgia over ‘Foreign Agent’ Law (RT) “

    So let me get this straight: the country is saying Foreign Agents need to register, exactly like in the United States, and the PEOPLE are protesting in the streets??? Because the Central Asian people of Georgia, en masse, do NOT want foreign provocateurs to be discovered and known? What. The. ….??? No. As someone said, EVERY PERSON PROTESTING IS an paid foreign agent provocateur, who are about to have their paychecks cut off.

    Dummy. I mean, about transparency, yesterday, why quote RT, how about how even the dumbest person alive could tell the NYT explanation makes no sense? Yeah, and Skripal licked the doorknob too, after snorting a backback of the world’s most deadly chemical weapon, then walked away unharmed. So says The Guardian! Georgian protests…GTFO.

    “Now, new revelations suggest Vindman could be profiting off the war in Ukraine, just as he did by speaking out against the Trump administration,”

    The White Hats identify, plan, then eliminate the names that work out against them. It takes time though, especially when you’re outnumbered.

    Tucker: Tim Pool points out that IN ORDER TO LIE YOU HAVE TO WATCH THE TAPES. That is, in order to clip Tucker, they have to watch his article which posts the real J6 violence as the FIRST CLIP. Tucker presents it as clip #1 and #2, only THEN clipping to “Hey what’s every here with 7 policemen opening doors?” …Have 7 policemen ever opened public doors for you? I haven’t. That’s the Red Carpet, Rock Star treatment, VIP special guests only.

    My point? THEY. KNOW. The “Left”, Progressives, the “good people” all KNOW. They know, they are LYING, and they DON’T CARE. I wish it were otherwise. What can I say? Am I supposed to pretend they are good, well-meaning, and honest? I don’t want them to lie. I don’t know why their side (+ RINOs) does nothing BUT lie and hypocrisy. But they do, so they make me say so in public. Stop it and I won’t pick on the Left anymore since it’s not their economic approach I’m bothered by. Just criminal perjury, felony, murder, and their goal to end all Human Rights. THAT is worth harping on. Stop. We can discuss tax issues later.

    “Fox News Host Tucker Carlson Not Credible, Says White House (BBC) “

    Fox – which is dismal — is rated EIGHTEEN POINTS MORE TRUSTED than MSNBC. By NewsGuard, a 3rd party source (and also pretty far left themselves). Don’t look at me: trust Newsguard and the Columbia School of Journalism. They’ll tell you.

    International Women of Courage Award”

    Yet another competition women will never win again. They’re Pro-woman! You can tell by the way they support beating, rapes, and getting her back in the kitchen! You could say “Violently” pro-woman. …As long as that woman is a man. Women, know your place! Obeying the Democratic Party. Pimp-Daddy.

    “EU is transitioning from a democracy to a tyranny,”

    You are kidding, right? We said this in 1999 when they were an unaccountable, advisory, “Student council” democracy actually run by the unelected Soviet (often literally, Merkel) State Bureaucracy. It has never been a democracy for even one day, as we discovered in their three failed referendum votes, whereupon they trampled all law by creating via non-treaty. Totally illegal.

    Oz
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqrLl0oWwAElkwb?format=jpg&name=small

    Um. Why? Anybody have ANY reason for this? Any at all?

    Jb’s article has this:
    “The main cause of depression is simple: it’s cognitive dissonance. That’s a fancy way of saying, you have two ideas that don’t mesh and are at war with each other. It’s a way of saying, you’ve swallowed a lie or a pack of lies, and they’re poisoning you”

    Which is what I was going to say, continuing the last two days. How do we know Zinn is a lie? From its fruits, its results. If he was telling the truth, there’d be no problem: we’d say “Oh. The world is what it is, thanks.” No conflict, no problem, re-adjust course. It only causes problems IF IT’S IN CONFLICT WITH SOMETHING. That is, there are TWO parts, two ideas that conflict with each other. Neither is expelled and attempt to co-exist in the same central processing unit of your mind. If he were telling the truth, that cannot happen. Or if Socialism worked and was a viable way, that wouldn’t happen. It only happens if you have Zinn, on one hand…plus SOMETHING ELSE, that there can be a civil war. A Civil War that causes personal suicide, as JB quotes, a National Suicide, and murders children coast to coast, young daughters dying by the thousands at their own hand.

    What is that “other thing”? The Truth. That we know by two ways: one, by our collected experience in life. Zinn contradicts that people behave this way. That in general “humans” have no love, honor, caring, cooperation. That it’s not – as I argue – only a very very few who are like this, easily identified and imprisoned for their crimes. Second, we know it in an intangible way via connection to our Source. We just “Know” life isn’t like that and can’t be. Which is often peoples’ attempt to reach out and prove via drugs, another and different suicide.

    But that is the point: for there to be conflict, mental conflict, conflict injected via our iPhones and Twitter feeds, there have to be TWO things. And since Truth is everyone and Eternal, THAT must be one of the two. So what is the other thing? What must it be? Well, pretty observably anything that conflicts with and opposes “Truth” is by definition a Lie.

    You’ll know you’ve expelled the Lie and not the Truth when you find Peace. So long as there is war, internal conflict, you must have grabbed the wrong factoid. Back up and expel the other one instead.

    His article extends the idea it’s not just in a person, a 15-year-old daughter (or son), or some 70 year old guy: it’s the same conflict in the body of National Consciousness. Which generally works as an idea. For some reason, nations seem to be very like single personalities, just as we, our minds are made of all our aggregate cells and neurons, not all of which “think” alike.

    #130840
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Gosh those spelling errors again…

    #130841
    Oroboros
    Participant

    This is the Blood Drinking Satanist® (BDS) Nancy Pelosi’s SON at Jan 6 with Shaman man.

    What a coincidence.

    Exposing the January 6th Narrative:

    Nancy Pelosi’s son-in-law Michiel Vos took a picture with Jacob Chansley on the Capitol steps. This was right before Chansley was escorted by Capitol Police through the building.

    At least Michiel Vos wasn’t in his underwear facing off with Shaman man with a hammer.

    Negative Nancy raised her kid right!

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    #130842
    Oroboros
    Participant

    correct: son in law

    #130843
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #130844
    Oroboros
    Participant
    #130845
    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks for the late-night review last night Dr D. You are up early.
    Have you considered taking addictive sleeping pills at bedtime?
    witch-hunter-for-hire
    🙂

    #130846
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Fiat Information Inflation

    Matt Taibbi

    Ultimately, the currency is only held up by Trust

    So is the Legacy Media

    But in the Empire of Lies both are being pissed down a rat hole of lies.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1633622889739042817

    #130847
    Oroboros
    Participant
    #130849
    John Day
    Participant

    I’m going to have to use a lot of these links today, Ilargi. You are painting the picture of reductio-ad-absurdum-in-progress, which can only lead to Paradigm-Shift.
    Paradigm shift will occur as political/financial crisis is entered, and will form a powerful control-narrative of rage against … whoever stands in the way.
    It is typical that the owners have well-defended positions when the herd gets stampeded, because stampedes can sometimes change direction, like a murmur of starlings, but with Americans in SUVs.

    I will again propose that any entity who/which was instrumental in the “vaccine rollout” should lose all claims to any wealth in the notional-vs-real-wealth-musical-chairs-with-machine-guns game.
    But don’t kill them. That’s a different level. Let them liive modestly.

    #130850
    Germ
    Participant

    Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration deliberately hid deaths from the vaxx – even the deaths of kids were hidden.

    ☠️☠️☠️

    TVASF

    #130851
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    There needs to be a new Federal level Department in the United States government to keep all of the leaks straight. Contradictory cock & bull stories are stacking up and getting hard to remember. It can be called U.S. Department of Balderdash and I’ve even got the motto that they can carve into the stone over the entrance, and on nicely framed little placards to hang on the wall where paying customers can see them and be reassured that they’re going to be getting their money’s worth: “Bald faced lies delivered instantly. Miraculous cancellation of the Laws of Physics might take a little longer.”

    #130852
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @JohnDay

    But don’t kill them.

    No worries, John. Just point out the bastards to a deplorable and go about your day.

    #130853
    zerosum
    Participant

    On Monday evening, Tucker Carlson told the truth.

    • Even Elon Musk Blasts MSM, Democrats On January 6th Capitol Riot Revelations (DCE)
    Musk took aim at Reps. Liz Cheney (R-WY), Adam Kinzinger (R-IL), and Adam Schiff (D-CA) who, Tucker claimed, painted a biased portrait of what occurred on January 6th.

    Gain of Fauci
    @DschlopesIsBack
    Check out the Tweet below and watch the video from Tucker. Then watch this video that I made two years ago on Jacob Chansley aka Jake Angeli aka “The Qanon Shaman”

    It should make a lot more sense now knowing more of what happened on Jan 6th.

    twitchy.com › samj-3930/2023/03 › 07‘QAnon Shaman’ Jacob Chansley thread takes #J6footage a step …
    1 day ago · Nancy Pelosi’s son-in-law Michiel Vos took a picture with Jacob Chansley on the Capitol steps. This was right before Chansley was escorted by Capitol Police through the building.

    https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/03/07/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-thread-takes-j6footage-a-step-further-in-exposing-the-j6-narrative/

    ———
    • Ukraine Cuts Off Power To Zaporozhye Nuclear Plant (TASS)

    ———-
    This morning
    Massive rocket attacks across Ukraine

    #130854
    Germ
    Participant

    Lockdowns and Masks were all theater.
    All for nothing – apart from the destruction of national economies and the health of the death-vaxxed.

    All for nothing but profit, power and control. Nothing saved – everything destroyed.
    That is it.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1633203017301237763

    ☠️☠️☠️

    TVASF

    #130856
    zerosum
    Participant

    A massive missile strike by the Russian Armed Forces on infrastructure facilities on the territory of Ukraine on March 9 – what is known by 14.00

    Russian troops at night inflicted massive strikes on critical infrastructure facilities in Ukraine.

    The list of means involved in the attack has significantly expanded: the Russian Armed Forces used kamikaze drones, cruise missiles, and even a hypersonic complex. “Dagger”.

    🔻What is known by this hour?

    ▪️Kiev: the engine room and boiler room of CHPP-5, a large generating station in the capital, were hit. In conjunction with other hits, the city had significant problems with electricity and communications.

    Previously, the facility has repeatedly become the target of strikes by Russian troops, but the station still continues to work. At the same time, if the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation managed to disable at least a few turbines and boilers, energy generation will be significantly reduced.

    ▪️Kharkov: At least fifteen explosions were heard in the city. According to some reports, the work of CHPP-3 and CHPP-5 was stopped. Local residents reported power and water outages, communication and heating problems.

    ▪️Dnipropetrovsk region: a series of explosions sounded in Pavlograd, Kryvyi Rih and Dnipropetrovsk districts. According to preliminary data, in the Kryvyi Rih district, the targets of the attacks could be the Kryvyi Rih TPP and the Yuzhnaya 330 substation.

    ▪️Zhytomyrska region: presumably, the substation of the Zhytomyrska 330 substation came under attack: the regional center was partially de-energized, about 150 thousand subscribers were left without electricity.

    ▪️Volyn region: citizens heard the most powerful explosions in Lutsk and Kivertsy. The impact was so powerful that some residents of Kivertsy reported that their homes were shaking.

    In the area of Lutsk there are an oil depot, an airfield and a substation Lutsk-Severnaya 330, as well as military facilities.

    ▪️Vinnytsia Region: Powerful explosions were heard in the region. Probably, the objects at the Ladyzhynska TPP could have been hit again.

    ▪️Kirovograd region: local residents reported the sounds of explosions in the Kropyvnytskyi district and an emergency power outage. The target of the attack in the region could be the Ukrainka 330 substation.

    ▪️Odessa Region: Local authorities have announced the defeat of an energy facility in the region. Among the possible targets of strikes are the Adzhalyk 330 substation, the Novoodesskaya 330 substation, the Usatovo 330 substation and the Centrolit 220 substation.

    ▪️Sumy area: probably one of the buildings of the Research Institute of Chemical Products in Shostka was affected.

    ▪️Zaporozhye region: Local authorities announced the destruction of the infrastructure facility, but there is no exact information about it.

    ▪️Ivano-Frankivsk region: getting into an unknown object of energy infrastructure.

    ▪️Local residents also reported the sounds of explosions in Lviv, Kherson, Khmelnytsky, Mykolaiv, Ternopil, Rivne, Cherkasy and Chernihiv regions.

    ▪️After the strikes, Ukrainian Railways reported a delay of trains of up to an hour due to problems with electricity supply. Several trains are delayed by almost four hours.

    🔻Today’s wave of blows has become the most massive this year. Among the known targets are machine rooms that are critical to the operation of power plants.

    As a result of accurate hits in several regions of the country, significant problems arose with electricity supply, which, however, was restored within a few hours.

    The largest power outage of the contact network was in central Ukraine. Large breaks were recorded in the area of Podolsk (Odessa region) and Odessa, as well as small ones near Lviv and on the Carpathian passes.

    In addition, local authorities once again preemptively turned off the energy before the raid, but this also causes significant damage to the energy system, undermining its stability.

    Despite the lack of short-term results, such attacks are increasingly destabilizing the Ukrainian energy infrastructure, leaving hope for its collapse and disruption of the work of railways with industry.

    #130857
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    @ Dr D

    Zinn is not typically taught in the public school system.
    I never read Zinn until about 5 years ago.

    It is important not to assume that just because one public school, somewhere in the US is teaching some particularly noxious idea that ALL public schools throughout the country are doing the same.

    My twin sons, juniors in high school, are studying US history this year. One of my sons gets anxious from some of his assignments, and I end up sitting with him and participating in the process. In particular, instead of a textbook he has a photocopied packet of over 200 pages for US history. I have read much of this aloud to my son as he answers the questions on the material. There is nothing about Zinn, nor about the “gaps” that he filled in US history. Nothing. The tycoons of the late 1890s are called both “captains of industry” and “robber barons” — an overview of both sides is given.

    My children have not been overtly taught by the local public schools about “trans” and topics regarding sexual orientation. They actually received ZERO school instruction about human sexuality, STDs, etc. All such instruction has come from me, their peers, or online videos. My daughter was inducted into the LGBTQI culture by peers in public elementary school. One son had a lesbian teacher in 7th grade…but he never knew that she was. Each of my children in middle school had the same non-binary art teacher. I didn’t know that the teacher was non-binary until my youngest had this individual as a teacher, and when I said “Ms. S—-“ my daughter corrected me that the teacher wanted to be called only by the last name, and to drop the “Ms.” I suspect that had been the case earlier as well, but only my daughter even noticed that the teacher was non-binary!

    There are problems in the public school system that I hear about from multiple sources, that are mostly ubiquitous and I see them in my children’s schools as well. The curriculum is more and more prescribed by the district, the teachers are given very little leeway in what they teach. This is especially the case in core academic classes — but even my son’s theatre class includes district mandated assignments and tests. (The assignments are called “PBAs” — and no one seems to remember what the acronym stands for.) Curriculum is purchased from enormous education corporations — it is turning into just another means for corporations to extract profit. In an elementary school where a friend works, students in 3rd grade have been issued Windows laptops, and the district has a mandated technology curriculum that teachers are to use to teach the kids about the laptops. However, the teachers have no time to teach the technology curriculum, they often barely know how to use the laptops themselves, and the students receive no instruction on how to use the issued laptops. Their standardized testing is now all on the laptops and my friend is discovering that the students don’t actually know how to take the online test, yet the quality of the teacher’s instruction will be evaluated by the students’ test scores!

    In my kids’ high school, the district brags that ALL juniors must take the ACT (a standardized college entrance exam.). My son with anxiety, ADHD, and behavioral problems is not planning college right after high school. (He is smart…but he isn’t going to benefit from higher education unless he is internally motivated.). The school is sending out an ACT “question of the day” to juniors via their school email account. In English they take practice ACT quizzes. This son was so stressed about the ACT a few days ago that he nearly broke down and cried. I had to tell him that for him, the ACT served no purpose, he didn’t need to worry about it at all, I didn’t care what score he received, it wouldn’t affect his grades, and he should focus on completing his school work in order to pass his classes. When the ACT comes, he can answer some questions and enjoy the break from his usual classes. It is nice that the district covers the cost of the ACT and that it is during school, rather on a Saturday at some far away school, as was the case for me so long ago. But…MANDATED? Why must it be mandated? It isn’t relevant to all students, but all must jump through this hoop anyhow.

    I do not doubt that some teachers, some school districts are incorporating “woke” nonsense into children’s curriculum. However, these issues are trumpeted by the conservative media, both mainstream (I.e. Fox,) and alt-Right, because they are sensational and emotionally charged issues, not because they are ubiquitous problems. Personally, I see more immediate problems stemming from the massive technology purchases (a laptop for every student) undertaken as a result of the pandemic funding. My son with behavioral issues is not the only one watching YouTube in class instead of doing school work, or copying the Spanish questions into Google Translate and then using copy/paste to put the translation into his homework, bypassing the part of his mind that needs to learn to translate. He is not the only one eschewing writing down problem steps in math equations because he enters the answers into an online module…and then we find that he hasn’t retained the skills because he didn’t invest enough effort into acquiring the skills.

    “If it bleeds, it leads.”

    #130858
    zerosum
    Participant

    The Patriot air defense system will not help Ukraine against Russian cruise missiles, White House Strategic Communications Coordinator John Kirby said.

    “The Patriot system is designed to intercept ballistic missiles, it is not as effective against cruise missiles, and it will definitely not be effective against drones,” Kirby said in an interview with CNN, adding that it is precisely such weapons that Russian forces often use. He added that the limited capabilities of Ukraine in intercepting hypersonic missiles are not surprising either. “Hypersonic missiles, in general, are very difficult to intercept,” Kirby explained.

    #130859

    To actually see germ’s rumble video (post 130831) with Graham Taylor, go to this link.

    #130860
    jb-hb
    Participant

    I’m going to go off into the weeds and then circle back around to Nordstream somehow.

    Critical Theory and Malignant Narcissistic Personality Disorder share a very consistent characteristic — they both attack strength and value, NOT weakness and deficiency. They’re the OPPOSITE of Sun Tzu. (I suppose NPD’s and Critical Theorists are Clausewitzian?)

    They also seem to share the principle that dropping civility, dropping the implicit give-and-take rules of social interaction is an advantage, such that sneering, confident, doubling, tripling, quadrupling down is always presumed the winning bet. One trick ponies in a way. Never ever stop.

    I had a girlfriend in college for awhile that had a raging case of malignant NPD. She’d be lying to me about something there IN THE ROOM with us. The exchange would go something like this.

    (lying, smiling/sneering about the thing right there in front of us)

    Uh, I know that’s not true, ok?

    (doubling down)

    I’m LOOKING AT IT right NOW.

    (tripling down)

    It’s right THERE <pointing>

    (quadrupling down)

    “We” want to Start A Conversation (search “Induced Conversation NPD”) but definitely, definitely, There Shall Be No Discussion. Knock knock. Sorry, nobody home to talk to.

    I realized, in my job working for a ginormous corporation, that its agendas – hidden and open – its policies, the way it was structured, in some sense constituted a kind of NPD, channeled my interactions with my human customers into NPD-like behaviors.

    I’ve listened to quite a few calls fielded by other people in addition to my own. Very consistently, it is crazy-making for the customer to be trying to accomplish something, anything, just have a productive communication that goes somewhere, when behind the customer service rep is a giant amorphous non-definable, non-explainable BLOB, that SOMETHING ELSE in the conversation that is not up for discussion, directs the entire course of, fate of the discussion and the customer doesn’t know how to bring up or discuss. Not without sounding crazy.

    My cure for this was to openly and as soon as possible, TELL the person everything behind the scenes, from specific processes, the reason (or unreason) for them, overall tendencies in behavior of the corporation, my powers, any lack of powers, my knowledge and any lack of it. Wax a little philosophical even. Let the person on the other end of the conversation know where the entity opposite them stands in the interaction. The shape, size, color, character of it.

    The first time my NPD girlfriend lied about something obvious and then relentlessly endlessly brazened it out regardless, it was – of course – disturbing. Totally inexplicable, out of this world whacko situation. The 4th time, it was WORSE. Totally discombobulating. Almost an out of body experience. Like one is living in some waking nightmare fever dream.

    But by the 8th time? The 10th? Bored contempt. “But but, hey, it’s a MYSTERY unjustifiable and inexplicable, so continue to be horrified!!!!” No. I don’t @#%^ing CARE if it is a mystery.

    Another method of discombobulation is the destruction of distinctions. Metaphorically, knifing the ziploc of oranges your mom packed in your school lunch until there is no distinction inside that paper bag between inside the ziploc and not-ziploc

    So we got continual assertions that the Russians blew up their own pipeline.

    And then a continual “Oh, WHO oh WHO could have done it? Let’s analyze it like an Agatha Christie mystery novel” Really?

    And now comes the other one trick pony, the postmodernist/deconstructionist Anything Could Be Anything. (This COULD BE art. COULD be architecture. COULD be xyz thing, nothing, multiple things, everything….) Annihilation of distinctions is paralyzing because in order to act, you need to be able to prioritize. You need to know what’s valuable, what’s not, and what the relative value is. Anything Could Be Anything carpet-bombs the decision tree.

    So now we get this whacko – it COULD have been Ukraine. It COULD have been. Might, might not. But it COULD.

    And of course the Russians looking at this with fed-up boredom. How stupid do you think we are? It’s in the room with us. I’m LOOKING at it RIGHT NOW. (helpfully pointing at it)

    You NAME the trick they keep trying to pull on you, describe it, draw a picture of it, point back and forth between the picture and the actual thing, and find they are going HARDER at the trick you just said you’re aware of. A sign that the entity on the other side cannot grasp that you’re a thinking person? Or whatever processes they faithfully follow don’t account for it?

    And there is a fractal aspect to it. Zoom out to geopolitics. Zoom in to personal interactions. Why this dynamic, why so totally inflexible and unrelenting? It’s understandable the 100+ iq college educated liberal atheists like Naomi Wolf start theorizing what, an invasion of bodysnatching aliens? Demons? An undiscovered virus that attacks particular parts of the brain having to do with consciousness, causing psychopathy and NPD? A secret society of Mean Girls who never matured and are determined to take over the world using ONLY the methods learned in junior high?

    I’ve toyed with the idea that civilizations collapse cyclically because of recurring locust-swarms of NPDs. Humans are great problem-solvers. And when they can freely respond individually to problems, freely discuss them, freely organize to confront them, the effects are incredibly powerful. It feels like something very weird, strange, pervasive is interfering.

    Idunno. I’m just feeling around the elephant, periodically reporting on having located a tree, a snake, and a wall.

    #130861
    Curlene48
    Participant

    phoenixvoice, Thanks for your interesting piece about what you are seeing in your children’s public schools.

    I actually would welcome high-school kids being given Howard Zinn’s work to read, in particular A People’s History of the United States. It questions the mainstream narrative on US history. If it is read it can be discussed and contrasted with other points of view, which are much more prevalent in our culture than Zinn’s views.

    What really upsets me more are some of the other issues you raise in your piece, such as the one-size-fits-all approach to testing, technology, and life choices after high school.
    The other thing that upsets me is the disappearance of school libraries and librarians.
    I was a school librarian for 24 years and the library was seen as the hub of the school, the center of research, learning, and independent thought. I retired in 2011, and since that time I have seen school libraries devalued in many districts.

    In one school district in eastern Ohio that I visited a few years ago, they had completely gutted their libraries and were using the spaces as computer labs only. Other schools have turned their libraries into “maker spaces” with an emphasis on having the kids make things with 3-D printers.

    The school district I visited in Ohio had also gotten rid of their foreign-language programs in the high school, and some of the kids were taking foreign languages from a canned online curriculum only.

    Children in the US should be exposed to foreign languages and cultures. They should be exposed to books and literature, and alternate points of view as well. The world-view of most US citizens is extremely insular and uninformed about the wider world. Schools should be encouraging students to read widely and evaluate for themselves what they have read. Much as those of us who read this blog every day.

    Our educational system is simply continuing to encourage group-think and mindless adherence to what we are told in the mainstream media. And it is getting worse by the day.

    I just read that another kids’ book author, R. L. Stine, has had his work tampered with by his publisher, Scholastic Books. He is not a literary giant like Roald Dahl, but just an author whose books are extremely popular with young kids. It turns out that in 2018, Scholastic re-released his works and changed many of his words to conform to the “woke” protocols decided on by faceless bureaucrats. The publisher didn’t even consult with him. If they are doing it to Dahl and Stine with impunity, I am afraid that they are doing it all over the place.

    #130862
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    oxymoron said:

    ‘The real game is controlling the human cattle.’

    Around here we call them sheep. I have heard the term sheeple (or sheople) to describe those who are herded by the ‘authorities’ into the fleecing pens and trucks for delivery to the slaughter houses.

    I’m still having difficulty convincing people that ‘New Zealand’ is not a country but is a business, and that the so-called government comprises of local managers appointed to positions by the overseas [City of London] management.

    The money-lenders control practically everything financial, commercial, economic, political and cultural on the Airstrips, and the game is to keep the Ponzi system going whilst transferring a much fictitious wealth as possible from The Commons to the money-lenders via the-loot-and-pollute economy.

    Adam Curtis highlighted how it all went into ‘hyperdrive’ in the 1930s once Bernays started to exploit the finding of his uncle Sigmund with respect to what drives human behaviour in industrial ‘civilised’ societies.

    Manipulation of the masses.

    #130863
    jb-hb
    Participant

    My local library branch has been gutted as well. Plenty of books still there, but DIFFERENT books.

    I laughed hysterically when I went to the fiction/literature section looking for Dickens or Tolstoy or the Bronte Sisters or something. (not the young adult section) There’s almost no real literature there, but every 4th book has the word “GIRL” in the title, I kid you not. It’s absolutely hilarious and absurd.

    #130864
    Noirette
    Participant

    kultsommer – on previous thread, that was some picture,

    1954 Antibes from Shorpy. https://www.shorpy.com/node/27010

    In the late 60s, 70s +, ppl like my family, thus me, went to the Riviera and sunbathed, swam, and even ate in restaurants..

    Not in Antibes, for the snobby rich, or St. Tropez, for the bling fash media crowd and fakey ‘yacht’ ppl…

    (venues to avoided at all costs today)

    A sweet nostalgia re. such vacations is via artistic black and white photos, family snapshots, and golden glow fuzzy Polaroid images. Those were the days…

    A bit like the Amerikana hankering after the neat little bungalow, the one, two large cars, Mr. working with Mrs. being a sexy stay at home Mom, say, post WW2, 1945 – 1960.

    Economic expansion resting on exploding exploitation of FF fuels…

    Mary Hopkins, Those were the days.

    https://bit.ly/3T4zshg

    #130865
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    There are a bunch of misleading headlines today, like this one:
    “Test results ordered by [Indiana governor] Holcomb show no dioxins in train wreck waste”

    The levels of dioxins found in those very limited samples are said to be “safe”, but this applies only if the dioxins are properly disposed and sealed in a hazardous waste landfill.

    This headline is more accurate:
    “Indiana testing of E. Palestine soil finds every dioxin and furan analyzed for — 10 varieties”
    https://planetwavesfm.substack.com/p/indiana-testing-of-e-palestine-soil

    The location from which the soil was removed was not revealed in the state’s news release or the memo with the results. There has still been no reported testing of soot taken from the point source, nor have there been any known wipe samples taken from nearby rooftops.

    There were a number of truckloads already dumped at the Indiana landfill before the test samples were taken. Perhaps these earlier truckloads were the most contaminated and did not get tested.

    Yesterday I read somewhere that 32 loads were initially dumped there before testing, and I was surprised because I thought it had only been 3 loads. It was on an official site, like the state of Indiana’s announcement of the test results, but I can’t find the 32 number there today.

    #130866
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Very large missile strike in Ukronaziland by the Russian today.

    One interesting note is that they used a Kinzhal hypersonic missile.

    The Russians have not used these missiles often, usually to take out something very large and hardened, and to make a point.

    That thing really packs a punch.

    All power out in Kharkiv and Odessa, hit large main electric generation facilities.

    Softening up and shaping the enemies terrain.

    #130867
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    It feels like something very weird, strange, pervasive is interfering.”

    I was going to sit on this for awhile, but then @jb-hb started looking at elephant parts and now it seems a little more relevant and timely. It’s esoteric to some degree (as so much of what I write tends to be) but please take note that it is also meant to be imminently pragmatic. The stuff I’m talking about is manifestly tangible now, and is going to become MUCH more so.

    The “Overton Window” metaphor is maybe the best visualization aid of all time in regard to the communication of vital information. So intuitively descriptive, so adaptable to shifting dynamics, so true in its operation.

    That metaphorical “window” of what constitutes acceptable topics for permissible conversation can widen or narrow, be murky or clear, move closer or farther away. I just love it.

    And that’s not even to mention the sorts of things that might fit THROUGH it to change its size, shape and placement. My, oh my!

    For example, just look at how the “Overton Window” has shifted and changed in the past couple of years, and not just here on TAE (although TAE is the place I’m thinking about in this instance.) It has been ripped open SO widely, literally everywhere, that hitherto undreamed of things are flying hither and yon through the now gaping hole in our prison’s wall.

    And this is just the start. Give it a few more months or a couple of years. Try not to be too shocked. (which is pretty much impossible to follow advice, because SHOCK is the very nature of what is being revealed.

    All that’s really happening is that the curtains of deliberately and purposefully obfuscated history are being ripped asunder to expose and inform you of what has simply been going on all along that you have been content to remain ignorant about because you’ve been gaslit into thinking that ignorance is bliss.

    Well it ain’t. Ignorance is death.

    Prepare to live for the first time in your life, but first there’s a little more wising up to do.

    Just kidding. There’s a LOT more wising up to do. And some of it is going to be very unsettling, so gird up as best you can (and NO, I’m not talking about God or aliens, which shouldn’t be all that unsettling in ether case anyway.) That widening Overton Window is going to help. Brave up and look through it.

    History is not what you’ve been led to believe it was, and the crazy guys haven’t been that wrong about it either (just a bit overwrought is all).

    Let’s start off light. Several commentators of considerable intellectual prowess here on TAE (and whole slew of lurkers, too, I would wager) have recently professed their atheism. No problem. That is their own business because it is their own mind and they are the ones fully responsible for ts contents.

    Nevertheless, to you guys I offer the earnestly sincere advice to get busy changing your mind about that atheism thing you’ve got going, because the implications are of significant material importance.

    That’s enough unsolicited advice for the time being, except for maybe one more bit: keep using that window.

    #130869
    Noirette
    Participant

    The absurd invention of UKR saboteurs being responsible for the blow-up of NS2 is a sign of weakness.

    Controlling the media sounds, feels, oh starry eyes, power wow, super !! fantastic, at first blush.

    However, if the stories don’t add up, don’t have proper continuity – ascribed motives, follow-up, etc. and aren’t coordinated (movie scripts are not a model to be followed.. they work in a two-hour circumscribed window..) with other ‘facts’, ‘news’, the whole effort falls flat and looks pathetic. Then whatever has to be rapidly superseded by some ‘new, next’ story. And so it goes…

    Of course, one aim is to keep ppl dependent on, and believing in, the Gvmt – MSM narrative, Putin the ugly dictator invades stalwart anti-Russian democratic Ukraine, brave Prez. Zelensky is fighting for his glorious nation, etc. etc.

    So, the lies and prevarications are aimed at ordinary ppl, and as they are considered to be idiots / untermenschen, it matters little what ridiculous story-script or BS is blasted out.

    #130870
    Oroboros
    Participant

    From the ancient masterpiece:

    Joe Tzu the Art of War

    .

    #130872
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Stripped of hype, misdirection and self-serving idealized claptrap (“markets, innovation, The Singularity, oh my!”), everything boils down to power relations: who has agency (control of their own lives and a say in communal decisions), who has access to all the goodies (cheap credit, insider dealing, ownership of income-producing assets, food, fuel and all the comforts and conveniences of living off others’ labor) and who can offload the consequences of their actions onto others, without their permission.

    These power relations define the structure of the economy, society and governance. Everything else is signal noise or self-serving cover stories.

    AI serves those at the top of the power relations pyramid, those with agency, access to the tools of wealth and power and those who can offload the toxic consequences of their own actions onto clueless/powerless others.

    https://www.oftwominds.com/blogmar23/AI-worthless3-23.html

    #130873

    “A People’s History” by Zinn is taught in the Mpls. school system and has been for years.

    #130874
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Tom Luongo on The Hrvoje Moric Show
    Starts at 19 minutes and continues to 56 minutes

    https://tntradiolive.podbean.com/e/tom-luongo-on-the-hrvoje-moric-show-7-march-2023/

    #130875
    Michael Reid
    Participant


    Emmanuel Daniel discusses the idea of East versus West and it being a Western construct, we’re in a multipolar world. He argues the U.S. is a dysfunctional state because it spearheads the development of new systems of governance and suffers the consequences, but that the rest of the world shares in those benefits. He explains how China became successful and how the “reset” of the Cultural Revolution played a role. He doesn’t feel the U.S is declining but rather pushing ahead into the networked world. Just like the U.S. had to reinvent itself in 1971 by closing the gold window, he feels we are at another critical juncture where the U.S. will pull yet another trick and take the world into a digital economy (e.g. CBDCs, metaverse).

    Emmanuel Daniel: U.S. Will Pull Another 1971 & Launch World Into Metaverse!

    #130876
    citizenx
    Participant

    I will again propose that any entity who/which was instrumental in the “vaccine rollout” should lose all claims to any wealth in the notional-vs-real-wealth-musical-chairs-with-machine-guns game.
    But don’t kill them. That’s a different level. Let them live modestly.

    Did they offer you the same? To have your livelihood stolen from you but they will give you a modest income in lieu?

    Game? Like haha funny lets play a game of power and authority to abuse, torture, sicken and murder those citizen minions under OUR authority? Like I AM SCIENCE kinda gaming?

    Sure thing- a little tsk tsk and pat them on the back- they promised they would never, ever, ever do it again…. trust ‘the science’ and trust them at their word. I guess some men have lost their biological balls as well…

    How about criminal genocide court trial and then hang the fuckers? Or solitary confinement until dead, no visitors, no phone, computer or tv?

    #RussiaGate
    #CovidCult
    #Jan6
    #Ukraine

    Just how much lying, stealing, cheating, torturing and murdering gets your attention John?
    Let them live modestly? For f’s sake, at what point are you willing to fight back versus cower in acceptance as a broken human being or a slave to lies and injustice?

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