Debt Rattle July 17 2024
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July 17, 2024 at 8:46 am #163959Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
Salvador Dali The Disintegration of the Persistence of Memory 1954 • This One Thing About Trump Shooting Is Very Suspicious (Pochuev) • Further
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle July 17 2024]July 17, 2024 at 9:16 am #163961aspnazParticipantUgly Adelson got Trump to agree to allow the IDF to remove Palestinians from the west bank, it cost her 100 million USD.
Elon Musk is paying more than that, so what is he getting, what loans and special contracts will he be seeing when Trump takes office?
July 17, 2024 at 10:25 am #163962Dr. DParticipant“Ron Paul: Why We’ll Never Know What Really Happened In Butler, PA
Translation: We’ll never really be sure if Trump staged his own photo op. Let’s just stop looking. I see this elsewhere: people from the right who don’t believe anything suddenly now believe the 20 year old kid story as a foundation to their other points. Why would you do that? They take as a premise Trump was shot and it’s not make up. Why would you do that? I’m not saying it wasn’t by why would you start with the conclusion?
Certainly see WHY one would do it though, stage a photo-op: the tenor has finally changed. FINALLY. Among the world’s most pointless stories, Jack Black gets in trouble, for saying practically nothing in a foreign country that hates Trump more than he does. …So let me get this straight: thousands of actually illegal acts = nothing. But being on the wrong side of the social mood = instant punishment without jury? Yup. By both sides. And overnight. No memo. Kyle was just doing what he’s always done for 8-20 years.
Okay, whats up with the other side? Joe and MSNBC are only mad about the part where Trump got a photo op . Those are the key points here. Although SS is all Biden, run by Biden, hired by Biden, paid by Biden, there is no Biden failure here, much less dark doings. Right.
Young Turks are morons but at least could ask IQ90 questions: WHY is there nothing at all on Crooks? No social media. No reports from classmates? No events? WHY are we all speculating then if literally no one has information about him to speculate with? WHY do we have so many questions? Shouldn’t a guy who wants to live this large have SOME other, ANY other data points to go to? …And then lets it drop. That’s still a smarter take than so many, than the Right, but if that doesn’t fit, shouldn’t you draw a hypothetical conclusion from it? The LACK of all data is itself data. It’s like the suspect has no Driver’s License, SS#, no school alumni, etc. IF that were true, the very lack of that is itself relevant, and the same here. So, Young Turks, HOW would Crook’s situation ever happen? Not saying we need to know for sure, just hypothesize. IF Crooks was never political in his life and the worst shot in school, what happened?
In data that goes the opposite: “Widow Of Trump Rally Victim Refuses Biden’s Phone Call
Competore is a guy who does and doesn’t exist. Misspelled his name on his own fire jacket. Etc. But it doesn’t smell dumb like an actual fake-up. And if there were real deaths, there were real bullets, and if there were real bullets, then…
Still looking. As the internet goes wonk, actual data with someone on camera not lying as their first response gets rarer and rarer. Like the Police sniper post on 4Chan: my guess was it is actually fake, but somebody is posting a REAL THING, that happened, under a fake name. Who? And I can only guess. That person – who doesn’t have to be a sniper, maybe a Trump apparatchik – it merely trying to get us to LOOK and investigate that point. Like the Biden-Hur transcript. There’s something there or everyone wouldn’t be hepped about it.
Too much stuff like that.
Anyway:
U.S. intelligence indicates foreign plot to kill Trump” NBC
Trump’s Secret Service increases protection due to Iran threat” ABC NewsOh so it’s the IRANIANS now? IRAN is capturing 20 year old Pennsylvania schoolchildren? Riiiiight. Now I KNOW you’re lying, and the only reason to lie is that you’re not honest and have a guilty conscience. So CHINA made him shoot, just like China made us lockdown, shut off healthcare, and transfer $30T from our poorest people with shutting down small business and 15% inflation, to our billionaires? Riiiight. Please make it stop. Whelp, I guess China and Iran are running the secret service spotter’s and planner’s detail, who knew?
“The Deep State does not rely on its patsy to do the job. It relies on at least 2 distance shooters or a point blank hit. Because it cannot afford to fail.
And yet it just did. Thanks to Providence. Look at the freefall the Democrats are now experiencing. Because the whole world knows who did this.” –NassYes, sadly that means there are THREE shooters, minimum, which begins to spin out of control, but also would be necessary if I was planning it. You have Yearick, but Crook is YEARICK’s patsy. However, there’s an actual, hard-core, long-standing shooter on the water tower (which no one’s bothered to see if also unsecured??) and Yearick is HIS patsy. Yes, Yearick was happy to take the shot, but he’s still a Antifa maniac and can’t be trusted, not a cold-blooded sniper type. So you have two “real” gunmen. I would. Wouldn’t you?
Okay, back up: so Trump hears about this. Trump sets his photo op. Trump stops Crook and they’re waiting for a de-fanged Yearick. …And then all of them miss the third shooter. The real one, but who is far further away, with a crazy-harder shot. Or something goes wrong, they meant to pick him up too, but being a pro, eludes them. That guy kills people in the crowd? Why? Because when Trump is aware of it – and maybe you (Team Derp State) can guess Trump’s SS is up to something, they know, yet Team Derp HAVE to shoot him TODAY, and ONLY today, as the convention and VP is tomorrow – then too many variables are now flying around. It’s all messy. Everyone is rushed, certain people are caught, others are waved through, we’ve got signalers, and all kinds of radio traffic flying around. Causes confusion and missed opportunities.
Anyway, that’s not the point. The DEMOCRATS are in confusion, SUDDENLY! A Miracle: changing their tune. Why? If they’re innocent. If Trump really is a threat to Democracy. And in 6 hours it changed. That’s not the point: the point is, Trump was supposed to be dead and the REPUBLICANS in total disarray, in “freefall”. The GOP convention is now a riot, a zoo, where suddenly, A Miracle! The only people who are organized and level-headed, not Trump-only, who have a game plan and a stack of blackmail folders and cash, are a few billionaires who want Nikki Hillary. …Who only JUST showed fealty by handing her delegates to Trump 12 hours ago. Uh-huh. Then we have the Hillary-Biden election, where the Derp State wins regardless of how you vote. We already know they wanted this earlier. By arresting/sidelining Cheeto, and force-conventioning Nikki.
Stop. Now Imagine the GOP convention this weekend, and the coverage, with a dead Trump. Yup. And only THIS weekend, and only THIS day. Not shot 3 weeks, months, or years ago. Now. The people, even the Party HAAAAAAATES Nikki Hillary. She’s less popular than cancer. The only way those rich guys can prevail over Maga with Haley is if they have TOTAL surprise and disarray.
Instead, as a biblical story, hung on their own scaffold, changing their tune AND the tone of the country. Biden says, “Come on people now/smile on your brother/love one another right now” 12 HOURS after saying “Trump is a clear and present danger to this country which will cease to exist if he’s elected.” Huh. “”He will literally round up and kill everyone, including me.” –Maddow. Huh.
And the Crowd? As Dore said, you’re sad? You guys just said all MAGA supporters are violent extremists that will end democracy, according to you, but one gets shot and you’re all sad about it? What brought that on? So are they, or are they NOT, a “Threat to Democracy”? So you’ve been lying or something?
No, the Democrats all changed – in an hour – because they had a plan, and that plan just fell through. They didn’t Suddenly slap their foreheads and say “Whadda we doing? We need to bring America together! And LOVE all those hateful racist, gun-clutching, bible-toting, bigoted, homophobic, white supremacist nazi misogynists!” No. The CHANGE ITSELF means the PLAN has changed, their PLAN fell through. They are working on another PLAN but the orders for that PLAN haven’t been released to Morning Joe yet. Okay, WHY? And Why on THIS day, the hour after the (failed) attempt? Yeah, that’s why: Don’t overthink it.
Trump in a landslide: Yeah but it’s not the voting– they can count 400M votes for Biden, and they did last time. It’s that no one will BELIEVE it now. Before Butler, they coulda, kinda, and Fox had it 45/46 for Biden. …Really. Wish I were kidding but Fox reported with a straight face. This event didn’t change REALITY, it changed PERCEPTION.
“So, it’s clear that Special Forces snipers had Crooks in their crosshairs by the time the shots were fired. So why didn’t they open fire sooner?”
Yes. That was Larry Johnson (also firearms instructor) on this. You can’t just hop up and fire like in the movies. A scope is like looking through a straw. IF they fired the second they were fired upon, they ALREADY HAD HIM IN THE CROSSHAIRS. And that means they Knew. And they Saw. And they didn’t shoot. …As we know for 1-3 minutes. And then, magically, they changed their minds and DID shoot? Again, that 4Chan posting may be fake, but that HAS to be an official standdown order from higher up. No. Way.
For crazy s—t they just can’t stop lying, new official rumor, Crooks got a credit card and bought a ladder that morning? 1) I thought that ladder was built in? 2) What SIZE ladder, how did he know, how which building, and that building would be open? 3) Walking down the fairway with a 30-foot ladder in one hand, and a AR15 in the other? Waved through? Uh-huh.
“The Secret Service did nothing to prevent Trump’s assassination.”
According to the official story, that would be completely true. If anything, they helped.
“Trump has to root out the evil, to extinguish the evil.”
I understand his point, but there is nothing but this: You have to SHOW the evil. That’s it. IF America doesn’t WANT to stop it, if they CHOOSE the evil after seeing it, you’re lost no matter what you do then. Even IF you became a dictator and FORCED morality the way Iran does, it would be lost. …But I don’t think America has or will choose that. Back up: Therefore Trump doesn’t NEED to fight the evil: that’s OUR job, in whatever cube/office you are. Trump only needs to SHOW the evil, and stop the LYING. We are NOT fighting for “Freedom and Democracy” overseas. The Feds are NOT competent at anything, not even taxing and killing. All conclusions then make themselves. Not need for Trump, Vance, they can be anybody, whether that George Washington in Nebraska, or Mickey Mouse or – geez, who’s the weakest Republican – James Caan or something.
WE are the answer. WE are the ones who need to know. THEY are useless and pointless, stop looking at THEM when YOU have work on your own desk to do.“You walk this fine balance, but you look at it and think ‘How could this have gone so wrong?’.
Because it didn’t go wrong. It went perfectly right. But for whom?
“To counter Zuckerberg millions?!
• Elon Musk Pledges $45 Million Monthly To Pro-Trump Super PAC (ZH)Above, no one would BELIEVE the vote, …but they would still buy/rig it anyway! Why not? Of course they would, what else can they do except have 600 Million voters? Anyway, the point here is they cut off the $90M in the Biden till, and maybe others. Now that can’t get down to the streets to print up and drive trucks from Long Island to voting booths in VA, after which the Printing shops all burn down the day after. Coincidence, I’m sure.
“Vance again accused the administration of US President Joe Biden of lacking a coherent policy on the conflict. “We have now spent $200 billion [on aiding Ukraine]. What is the goal? What are we trying to accomplish?”
Apparently he voted against Israel only because it would have stopped the withdrawal from Ukraine. Actually meant to tie Trump’s future hands ahead of time. So I’d ask the same thing JD: We spent $200B on Israel too: What is the goal? What are you trying to accomplish? Uh-huh. Well not solving drug abuse in Ohio and Kentucky, that’s for sure. Get stuffed. This sort of thing is what makes them core, pro-status-quo candidates, and I’d remove them. As Dore I think said, “Trump is for Empire, it’s just WHICH American empire?” What flavor and style? That. Is true.
“• ‘No Mercy’ For Ukrainian neo-Nazi POW Murderers – Medvedev (RT)
If true, then that is legal. What’s the discussion here?
“the dismissal of the Florida case against Donald Trump by Judge Aileen Cannon.”
If you missed it, Jack is a busy boy! They ALSO charged Jack with BRIBERY AND EXTORTION as he tried to get a couple loose millions from Serbia or else he would start filing Federal lawsuits against them. Being a nation, Serbia then reported it and filed a complaint. “Your Federal officer is hopelessly corrupt, signed witness affidavits on Page 5”. And guess which judge busy boy Jack was posted with on that complaint? Yes, Ms. Cannon. …But of course Judge Cannon would never use the other cases, reputation, and long experience with Jack to sway her legal perception of the merits of his case. Nope. ‘Cause Federal Judges, I only just heard were the only lily-white star, the bulwark against Trump’s fascism, when he ordered them to arrest all his enemies, round up and kill them all in 2017. No? You don’t’ remember that either? That’s not what NBC and Maddow just reported.
Yup, only Federal Judges like Cannon stood in the way, so I say, trust and believe them. Wait, so only trust the judges who rule your way (which she has) and then said they’re traitors who should be shot if they rule the OTHER way (she has)? …That sounds an awful lot like “I just do whatever I feel like” with no reference to law.
Anyway, no Jack: he got another lawsuit. I wonder how many times he’s been filed against for Extortion.
Yesterday: Women are required to punch and kill people, play contact sports, well boys are required to cry.
“Where Is All the Sad Boy Literature?
“Sad girl lit” is everywhere, but young men are glaringly absent from the contemporary canon of popular authors writing about sex and intimacy. Could that be about to change?” — EsquireAll Boy literature is sad literature. Read it. “The Sun Also Rises.” “Great Gatsby”. “Hamlet”. Just what you’d expect from a woman’s magazine like Esquire.
July 17, 2024 at 10:53 am #163963oxymoronParticipantthe tenor has finally changed. Oh really. Maralago raid, 91 charges, stormy, russiagate. The list is endless. So simple just to see the progression. Like the worst, most high risk option till last.
I think they can make Trump do most of what they want but it costs soooo much more time and resource if you are not working with a WEF cult cuck like Trudoe.
Just some thoughtsJuly 17, 2024 at 11:38 am #163965OroborosParticipantSet aside the obvious plotting and conspiring stuff for a moment.
Think about basic competence.
Think how basic competence has drained away from the Empire of Lies like a crime victim bleeding out.
If lying begets incompetence, Duh’merica is a dead man walking.
Congress critters are basically rhinestone studded buttplugs
Mere place holders in the bigger picture.
But a few of them should be able to hold a hearing and ask some simple questions about the Trump Rally Clusterfuck.
Really simple stuff
Who ordered a ‘stand down’ during the event.
Who allowed a guy to crawl up a three story ladder in broad daylight with a rifle.
Who ordered the ‘good sniper’ not to take out the ‘bad sniper’.
Stuff like like.
And I mean the actual. flesh and blood agents, name. rank and serial number.
At a very basic, basic, basic level it should kick off with a Grand Gesture of firing in as publicly humiliating a manner as is humanly possible a large number of Secret Service agents and their handlers.
DEI hires and traitors alike.
The Age of No Consequences needs to come to a END.
“It was Colonel Mustard in the Study with a Gun!”.
Buy a Clue.
Hose them down
July 17, 2024 at 11:45 am #163966OroborosParticipantPosted Elon Musk @elonmusk 6h
Can I hit that doobie after you’re done with it dude?
The Age of No ConsequencesJuly 17, 2024 at 11:47 am #163967OroborosParticipantWhen it actually counts
July 17, 2024 at 11:49 am #163968OroborosParticipantAs the World Turns
As Duh’merica DevolvesJuly 17, 2024 at 11:51 am #163969OroborosParticipantDEI Twat
US Secret Service Director Blames ‘Sloped Roof’ for Security FailureIt turns out that the roof’s slope was a less than 10 degrees — hardly cause for concern.
This excuse alone PROVES Kimberly Cheatle’s incompetence. She must be fired immediately.
“That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point, and so, you know, there’s a safety factor that we considered. We didn’t want to put someone on a sloped roof, so the decision was made to secure the building from the inside.”
July 17, 2024 at 11:53 am #163970OroborosParticipantThe “sloped” roof where the shooter was able to engage in his assassination attempt is far less sloped than the one with SS snipers.
Nobody believes this excuse.
“They” actually think the Sheeple are this stupid.
Well, maybe half of them are
July 17, 2024 at 11:54 am #163971OroborosParticipantJuly 17, 2024 at 11:56 am #163972OroborosParticipantDuh’merica
Pissing on yur heads, telling you it’s rain…….
July 17, 2024 at 11:57 am #163973OroborosParticipantStar Spangled Buttplug
July 17, 2024 at 12:00 pm #163974OroborosParticipantJuly 17, 2024 at 12:03 pm #163975OroborosParticipantLet’s get some advice from a Russian
Yeh, that’s the ticket!
July 17, 2024 at 12:04 pm #163976OroborosParticipantJuly 17, 2024 at 12:06 pm #163977OroborosParticipantJuly 17, 2024 at 12:09 pm #163978WESParticipantBasically Trump was left naked, exposed, helpless, and all alone.
Then the Dems and their deep state, took their best shots at Trump.
And yet they somehow missed.
The crowd noticed.Crook’s past was completely scrubbed beforehand by the deep state.
Nothing to see here.July 17, 2024 at 12:20 pm #163979WESParticipantI saw a comment that the good snip*er, after shooting Crook, was immediately arrested by the FBI, held for an hour, then fired.
Might this might explain the X (Twitter) posting by the good sniper?
July 17, 2024 at 12:25 pm #163980Dr. DParticipantKeep it coming.
There is no bottom to the derision deserved.
Now: there’s competency all over America. Less than usual, but still all over. And the Incompetent make sure the Competent are never anywhere near any lever of power. Ever. Even about taking a #$%& phone call.
The Incompetent know it’s all over for them if the Competent take power, if there’s a Meritocracy. They know how stupid, corrupt, worthless, and incompetent they are, and they’ll all be demoted to janitor and go to jail. That’s why they MUST be against the American Way, and all American law.
IF you promote the Incompetent over the Competent, it HAS to end this way. Why are you making Ayn Rand right?
FROM each according to his ability. That is, the COMPETENT.
TO each according to their need. The Incompetent. That is, their system directly says, promises, then actually DOES, promotes, engenders, insures, that we DESTROY ALL COMPETENCY, and Promote all INcompetency. …It’s right there in the title, it’s not rocket science.
OBVIOUSLY all the Incompetent, lazy, shiftless, thieving CRIMINALS will sign up body and soul. Because this is a system where CRIMINALS are robbing, thieving, killing, de-moting, transferring, all objects, made and unmade FROM the people who make them, TO the people who do no work, can’t, and don’t.
So Rand was like 1949, 1954, like 70 years ago? And every day since then they have tirelessly promoted the lazy incompetent over the working competent. Surprise!
…There are LOTS of competent people in America and all over the world. We here predicted .Com crash, Iraq, housing bubble, ’08 collapse, everything. Wasn’t hard at all. “Nobody Knewd!” Yeah, except for 300,000 sites like this one, with 100 commenters apiece. We all knew, and we all wrote Congress.
The answer is very simple: stop. Transfer assets FROM the Incompetent, TO the competent. (Also known as “Bankruptcy”. AKA as “Being fired”.) If you WORK for something, you keep it and can give it away if you want to. If you don’t, you don’t. And EVERY incompetent will be against that. To the death. And they’re frighteningly many, and frightfully incompetent.
Hey what’s this red button? What’s this vial?
America is filled with competent Secret Service members. They’re all on the outside, retired or fired. So guess what? Which side do you want to pick? Benton says they own all the institutions, all the high ground. O Rly? And staffed the castle with morons who will open the gate if you trickle M&Ms. Um, I’ll hang with the competent, thanks. They’ll have no trouble retaking the castle when it comes.
July 17, 2024 at 1:20 pm #163981John DayParticipantDr D Rich wrote (about Trump’s potential transformative experience into the “Gray Champion” archetype of the “Fourth Turning):
“Oh come on John Day.
They reminded Trump of his mortality and vulnerability in a very public way.
Some call the method the come to Jesus moment.
Do that to a child under age ~7 and a dissociative state can be induced. Those kids don’t get PTSD. Kids will dissociate.
Trump’s brain is mulling about those thoughts.
There’s not a small chance that soft, blubber boy will crack up over THIS.
Trump has never known deprivation, want, need or existential terror in his overly protected life..What substance, what past events will DJT drawn on to overcome this deepest of psychological crises?”
I can’t answer your closing question, and I assert that it barks-up-the-wrong-tree, that Trump has perhaps undergone a Jungian process of archetypal transformation, Not a Freudian reversion to childhood trauma.
I therefore challenge YOU to a reality-duel tomorrow night, Thursday, when Trump addresses the Republican Convention with his new, “Unite America” address, having shelved his previous speech.July 17, 2024 at 1:20 pm #163982zerosumParticipantYesterday is gone.
Time does not stand still.
Projections, Probabilities, evaluations, possibilities, control.
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Setup time needed for accuracy
Thomas Crooks fired three shots from a rifle and was almost immediately hit by return fire from US Secret Service snipers.
Special Forces snipers had Crooks in their crosshairs by the time the shots were fired.
They opened fire with at least two rifles in just over three seconds?
————July 17, 2024 at 1:25 pm #163983OroborosParticipantWho bares ultimate responsibility for the tsnami of incompetence smothering Duh’merica to death?
For at least the past 20 years if not longer The Competent have willfully allows the Incompetent to take over the levers of Power
“Oh, that’s so unfair! The Incompetent cheated and lied and snuck past the goalie, you know, like……. the fog comes on little cat feet….. it sits looking over harbor and city on silent haunches and then moves on…..to more Incompetence I guess.”
How ironic, the Competent become the Incompetent by watching the Incompetent sneak in and steal the family jewels!
Doesn’t sound very Competent does it?
Using lame excuses to explain something moves you firmly into the Incompent Camp you claim is the problem.
I’ve watched every field, medicine, the military, retail, etc… become mind boggling Incompetent while the so called Competent stood there with their collective ‘competent’ fingers up there ‘competent’ asses.
The Secret Cervix DEI head will never resign, like NEVER
She can be FIRED but that would require a COMPETENT figure of authority to accomplish.
We, Duh’mercia, don’t have any of those in positions of power.
Like ZERO
So yur phucked, Screwed, Blued and Tatooed
The Competent in Duh’merica are simply understudies for the Incompetent.
PA’s to the dunces
You know, the ones that try foe the ice cream cone to the mouth but hit the forehead….
July 17, 2024 at 1:26 pm #163984John DayParticipantI can’t find any Maxwell Yearick current updates, just 3 day old debunking “The FBI says”…
July 17, 2024 at 1:30 pm #163985John DayParticipantHey, those little bits of antler-tip, or whatever, in the Dali piece look like bullets, though I’m sure they are just symbols of our unidirectional experience of time…
July 17, 2024 at 1:49 pm #163986my parents said knowParticipantWell, today goggle sets the record straight, sort of, by recognizing that Vance is 6’3″ and NOT 5’7″ as it claimed.
To show how programmed I am by these crazy times, I am going to spend a few minutes on what such a lie might mean.
What does 5 7 mean?And, just for the fun of it- DJT was shot at 11:11 GMT
July 17, 2024 at 1:55 pm #163987my parents said knowParticipantDaily Mail on Vance’s height.
July 17, 2024 at 2:12 pm #163988OroborosParticipantNima & Orlov
July 17, 2024 at 2:14 pm #163989John DayParticipant@MPSK: 11:11 GMT? In my high school in Yokohama, we treated 11:11 and 12:34, and similar digital clock times as “cosmic time”, an excuse to go smoke pot somewhere.
I fully rehabilitated myself in the last millennium.July 17, 2024 at 2:15 pm #163990Dr. DParticipant“For at least the past 20 years if not longer The Competent have willfully allows the Incompetent to take over the levers of Power.
Doesn’t sound very Competent does it?”Absolutely. But your argument says that things can only ever go from competent to incompetent, and never reverse. …But that doesn’t seem very likely does it, and history shows that isn’t true.
So what are the predicates and events where the competent have enough and start throwing rope? Since that does provably happen, and equally often as the reverse. Time is a circle. Or a spiral. The wheel go round and round.
July 17, 2024 at 2:17 pm #163991John DayParticipantWorld In Changes https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/world-in-changes
How can Viktor Orban still be un-assassinated? Orban delivers Ukraine peace proposals to EU – adviser
The plan is based on the results of the Hungarian leader’s recent visits to Kiev and Moscow, political adviser Balazs Orban has said
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has sent proposals to EU leaders on ways to resolve the Ukrainian conflict, newspaper Magyar Nemzet reported on Monday, citing the PM’s political adviser Balazs Orban.
The proposals are said to be based on the results of the premier’s controversial peace mission earlier this month, during which he visited Ukraine, Russia, and China.
Orban provided EU leaders with a detailed account of his visits, and delivered Budapest’s action plan to their desks, Balazs Orban (no relation) told the newspaper.
The adviser described Budapest’s proposals as being “based on a realistic assessment of the situation” and on setting “realistic goals,” without elaborating further.
Balazs Orban claimed that there are “pro-war” political forces in the EU, and that the bloc is following the lead of the current US administration, which, he said, wants the conflict to continue.
”If Europe wants peace and wants to have a decisive say in the settlement of the war [in Ukraine] and the end of the bloodshed, then the change of course must be worked out and implemented now,” the adviser said...
..Hungary plans to use the six months of its rotating presidency of the, which began in July, to create conditions for peace talks. “If the union does not act now, it may not be able to act later,” Balazs Orban warned.
During his visit to Kiev, the Hungarian leader called on Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky to agree to a ceasefire with Russia, a proposal the latter rejected. https://swentr.site/news/601102-orban-eu-ukraine-peace-proposals/Oh … Ukrainians planned to kill Viktor Orban before flying to Moscow – conversation intercepted
Hungarian intelligence services prevented an attempt on the life of Viktor Orban. Local media reported this. The Ukrainians planned to assassinate the Prime Minister of Hungary before flying to Moscow on July 4th. His car was supposed to be blown up on the way to the airport.
Demokrata publishes an intercepted conversation between two Ukrainian-speaking people discussing a suspected terrorist attack. https://en.topcor.ru/49546-ukraincy-planirovali-ubit-viktora-orbana-pered-vyletom-v-moskvu-perehvachen-razgovor.htmlI saw a few short video clips of Trump at the RNC yesterday, and didn’t think much of it. Yeah, he looked a bit different, but I stopped on my bike ride to speak with a neighbor who recently experienced a loss, and she said that “he didn’t look well”, so I reran those spots in my mind, and said, “he was calm within himself; I’ve never seen him like that.” After dinner, I pulled up a CNN 4 minute video of Trump entering the hall and walking up to the stands. Take a look. See what you think. He appears calm, appreciative, engages with kindness, and looks close to crying tears of gratitude a few times. https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/15/politics/video/trump-appearance-republican-national-convention-digvid Trump says he has shelved the speech he had written for Thursday night, and that he will instead speak with an intention to unite America. We’ll see.
World In Changes, Dave Mason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIxKq0rAblE
July 17, 2024 at 2:19 pm #163992John DayParticipant Trump Reveals Key Pillars Of “Trumponomics”: Low Taxes, Sky High Tariffs, Powell Not Fired, Treasury Secretary Dimon And Much More
Before the failed assassination attempt, before the catastrophic (for Biden) first presidential debate, Donald Trump gave Bloomberg an extensive interview in which he laid out the core tenets of Trumponomics 2.0 that will define his next presidency. Here are the key highlights:
If Trump wins, he will…
Enforce huge bilateral sanctions even though he claims “I don’t love sanctions,” he says. He keeps circling back to William McKinley, who he says raised enough revenue through tariffs during his turn-of-the-20th-century presidency to avoid instituting a federal income tax yet never got the appropriate credit.
Allow Jerome Powell to serve out his term as chair of the Federal Reserve, which runs through May 2026
Lower the corporate tax rate to as low as 15%
Not ban TikTok.
Consider Jamie Dimon to serve as secretary of the Department of the Treasury
Be ambivalent (if not outright hostile) to the idea of protecting Taiwan from Chinese aggression and to US efforts to punish Putin for invading Ukraine. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/trump-reveals-key-pillars-truponomics-low-taxes-sky-high-tariffs-powell-not-fired-treasury Zelensky’s Plan-B with Trump not dead: Moscow Issues Chilly Response to Zelensky’s Peace Talks Invite
The Kremlin on Tuesday gave a cautious response to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s apparent invitation to a future peace summit, saying that Russia first needs to understand what Kyiv means before attending talks.
Zelensky said on Monday that Russia “should be” represented at a second summit on the Ukraine conflict, following high-level talks last month in Switzerland that Moscow did not attend.
“The first peace summit was not a peace summit at all. So perhaps it is necessary to first understand what he means,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told the Russian military’s Zvezda television channel, responding to Zelensky’s comments. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/07/16/moscow-issues-chilly-response-to-zelenskys-peace-talks-invite-a85726 Simplicius, Crumbling NATO Buys Time for Broad European War
Zelensky arrived in the U.S. for NATO’s grand 75th anniversary summit, which turned out to be another sniveling disappointment, embellished with the usual carrot-on-a-stick promises that offered nothing concrete...
..Here ex-ambassador Chas Freeman goes one step further in declaring it a swan song for NATO:
Instead of strengthening the NATO alliance and showing its power, the latest summit in Washington did the opposite, it laid bare its cracks, its failure to deal with reality, and its incapacity to respond to the unstoppable emergence of Multipolarity.
It was a summit of retreat and will be remembered as the moment when NATO, instead of reinventing itself, doubled down with the same failed approach that ultimately leads to its demise...
..The one interesting takeaway was the CFR’s Foreign Affairs mag releasing their vision of a compromise for Ukraine’s future. The eye-opening concept is revealing as to how the West likes its chances in Ukraine. In short, they propose following not the Korean DMZ model, but rather the German ‘Berlin Wall’ model. Though they beat around the bush somewhat, as it’s clearly a radical idea sure to ruffle feathers and frighten many Ukrainians, they in essence propose that Ukraine should decide which territory to give up, and then the remainder under Ukraine’s control should form its own new state that would be allowed to enter NATO proper. The consolation is that, just like West Germany was eventually reunified with East, they contend that Ukraine can ‘hold out’ under the promise of reunification with the territory they lost at some indeterminate future time…
..Once settled, Kyiv and the alliance would go public with these agreements. NATO could amplify Kyiv’s unilateral statement with a similar declaration. The goal would be for independent Ukraine to join NATO as soon as feasible, ideally before January 20, 2025—but, if need be, as part of Trump’s “deal.”
As can be seen by the end, they even radically propose for this plan to be enacted ASAP to beat Trump to the punch, thus is their sheer terror at the fallout of a Trump presidency. It should also be noted that Trump’s new VP pick, JD Vance, has previously stated unequivocally that Ukraine should give up land to end the war.
The problem is, almost all of the above in practice sounds virtually no different to the previous Minsk accords. What possible incentive would Russia have in taking such a “deal” which freezes the conflict and brings NATO even closer to Russian territory—thus effectively achieving the complete opposite of Russia’s chief objectives in the war? …
..The only issue would of course be the vetoing of such a move by saner NATO members like Hungary, but there could be mechanisms to deal with that. Although, the danger for such a drastic plan to totally rip NATO apart and cause its collapse would likely be great; but in the minds of desperate Western globalists it would be a trade off: should Ukraine lose the war in decisively dramatic fashion, NATO would face its extinction anyway.
This is why, for instance, the Western banking cabal is so rabidly earnest in seizing stolen Russian sovereign funds despite the risk of it completely delegitimizing the entire Western financial system: they know that if Russia wins the war, this system will collapse anyway, owing to a runaway effect of de-dollarization and Russia’s leading role in the paradigm-breaking multipolarity grand awakening.
Never underestimate the folly of evildoers facing their mortal demise...
..What has become evident in the wake of the NATO summit, however, is the overarching plan that the West has to goad Russia into a major European war by the end of the decade. The reason for this is well known: the globalist-financial interests who run the world and make all the top executive decisions in the West have decided there is no other way to ‘reset’ their system other than war. They tried to push the Great Reset onto humanity via Covid and Agenda 2030, but these plans have failed thus far—and so the only way left to reset the hyper-leveraged and terminally diseased global financial web is via war...
..Of course, as per their usual MO, the West conceals their own secret plans by projecting them onto Russia:
”Russia may begin to fight with NATO around 2029 – then the Russians will have optimal conditions for this”, – Inspector General of the German Army …
..The US and NATO are preparing for war with Russia. The US is bringing its Tomahawks to Germany. You know how this will end...
..In short, the plan by the globalist hawk faction appears to be to extend the Ukraine war as long as possible then ‘tie it on’ into a wider European war by goading Russia into attacking Europe after threatening and provoking Russian sovereignty with a variety of existential threats. The timeline could be to take the Ukrainian war to at least 2027-2028, then begin the next phase of the conflict. All the while, Russia remains economically subdued, and more importantly—Europe and Russia remain locked out from each other’s markets, while U.S. can maintain its economic supremacy unchallenged.
The problem with the above is that now that Trump is almost a shoe-in, and has chosen JD Vance as running mate—who is extremely anti-Ukraine—Europe is panicking as it dawns on them that they truly will be on their own in buttressing Ukraine come next year. https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-71524-crumbling-nato-buys Why the Keystone Cops Secret Service team was at the Trump rally. (Reminds me of JFK’s USMC guards being dispatched to New Zealand in November 1963)
Secret Service Allegedly Diverted to Jill Biden Instead of Trump Just Before Shooting, Report
Susan Crabtree of RealClearPolitics might have one of the answers as to how this could have happened.
She reported Saturday that resources within the Secret Service were diverted away from the presumptive GOP nominee’s detail and were instead deployed to protect first lady Jill Biden as she campaigned for her husband, President Joe Biden, the same day...
..But it’s the presence of two high-profile figures in the same area at the same time that might have allowed a security breach at Trump’s Butler, Pennsylvania event, according to Crabtree, who is RealClearPolitics White House and national political correspondent.
“This is the problem that my Secret Sources have cited: Secret Services resources were diverted to Jill Biden’s event and away from Trump’s because they followed agency protocol applying to Trump as a former president, according to two sources within the Secret Service community,” she posted. https://www.westernjournal.com/secret-service-allegedly-diverted-jill-biden-instead-trump-just-shooting-report/ Meryl Nass MD, Coffee and COVID (Jeff Childers’ substack) suggests possible second shooter on the water tower. And other notable quotes.
What? 3 police snipers were staged inside the building from which Crooks took his shots.
Consider JFK, RFK assassinations: there was a patsy and there were the real shooters. The Deep State does not rely on its patsy to do the job. It relies on at least 2 distance shooters or a point blank hit. Because it cannot afford to fail.
And yet it just did. Thanks to Providence. Look at the freefall the Democrats are now experiencing. Because the whole world knows who did this. After all the attacks during Trump’s earlier Presidency, the extraordinary lawfare attacks during his campaign, and now this attempted assassination, it does not take a rocket scientist to say Qui Bono (who benefits?). [Videos of Two different witnesses describing 2 different shooters, one on the water tower. Aerial diagrams provided.] https://merylnass.substack.com/p/coffee-and-covid-jeff-childers-substackJuly 17, 2024 at 2:21 pm #163993John DayParticipant The Trump Assassination Attempt: A Serious Audited Investigation is Urgently Needed Weapons and Strategy, Stephen Bryen
Was there a Second Shooter? New Acoustic Forensic Evidence [Acoustics analysis indicates 3 different patters. Two “shooters” and the police sniper.]
[Update: Since publication the gun has been identified as a DPMS AR-15 5.56 rifle that was purchases more than 10 years ago by the shooter’s father. DPMS is a low cost AR-15 and there are different models with price ranges today under $700. Compare to a Ruger AR15 which is over $1,000. There are some criticisms of the DPMS gun’s quality, but others find the rifle barrels good.] https://weapons.substack.com/p/the-trump-assassination-attempt-aI can’t find any fresh evidence of life on Maxwell Yearick, just 3 day old: “The FBI says…” Thanks Oroboros.
Trump Shooter Rejected From High School Rifle Team: ‘Couldn’t Hit a Target at 50 Feet’ https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/trump-shooter-rejected-from-high-school-rifle-team-couldnt-hit-a-target-at-50-feet/
ABC News: “Building where Trump rally gunman perched on roof was police tactical team staging area”, Would-be assassin hid in plain sight. And many more weird discrepancies: https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/abc-news-building-where-trump-rally
I see his smiling face in there twice. Blackrock Video Featuring: Thomas Matthew Crooks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnDOaOsFFlk
July 17, 2024 at 2:24 pm #163994John DayParticipant BBC is aghast and makes helpful noises:
Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas called it a “failure” of security, telling CNN that “an incident like this cannot happen again”.
Ms Cheatle said on Monday that her agency is working with federal and local police to “understand what happened, how it happened, and how we can prevent an incident like this from taking place again”.
She added that she will cooperate with any congressional investigations into the shooting.
“The buck stops with me,” she said in the ABC interview, adding that she would not step down in the face of mounting calls from some lawmakers.
Ms Cheatle will face the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability on 22 July.
Republicans on the committee have also called on the Secret Service to produce evidence including internal communications, audio and video recordings, messages to local law enforcement, maps, diagrams and pre-event assessments. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd167v5lpq2oThis is a pretty good timeline, released Tuesday, but it’s already somewhat old. It is well organized and sets the events out contextually. Peter McCullough MD and John Leake
Detailed Analysis of Trump Assassination Attempt, A critical evaluation of video recordings and witness testimony of the incident https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/detailed-analysis-of-trump-assassinationElon Musk Pledges $45 Million Monthly To Pro-Trump Super PAC To Counter Dems In Swing States https://www.zerohedge.com/political/elon-musk-pledges-45-million-monthly-pro-trump-super-pac-counter-dems-swing-states
Biden will never debate Trump again. Biden won’t be the candidate by September: Biden rejects extra debate with Trump
The US president told NBC’s Lester Holt he will only take on the Republican frontrunner again in September, as was earlier agreed https://swentr.site/news/601165-biden-trump-debate-us/ Edward Slavsquat, about our Romanian friend, Iurie Rosca: Seven years in prison for refusing to be a government bootlicker?
Iurie Roșca may pay a high price for inconveniencing our oligarch-overlords https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/seven-years-in-prison-for-refusingJuly 17, 2024 at 2:25 pm #163995John DayParticipant Columbia University suspends three deans for “antisemitic” speech in private text messages [They secretly gave Zionist campus Rabbi screed VOMIT EMOJIS!]
Three administrators at Ivy League school Columbia University – Cristen Kromm, the former dean of undergraduate student life; Matthew Patashnick, the former associate dean for student and family support; and Susan Chang-Kim, the former vice dean and chief administrative officer – got canned this week after it was revealed that they exchanged “antisemitic” text messages in private during a seminar on Jewish campus life back in May.
According to Nemat Shafik, Columbia’s president, the three deans “disturbingly touched on ancient antisemitic tropes” in their private text conversations with one another.
“Whether intended as such or not, these sentiments are unacceptable and deeply upsetting, conveying a lack of seriousness about the concerns and the experiences of members of our Jewish community,” Shafik wrote in a letter that was publicly released this week.
Washington Free Beacon is credited with leaking photographs of the text exchanges which include one of the deans using two vomit emojis in response to an article published in Columbia Spectator, Columbia’s student newspaper, by Yonah Hain, the campus rabbi, about how students were responding to the events of October 7.
“Debates about Zionism, one state or two states … are all welcome conversations on campus,” Hain wrote in his piece, adding that support for the so-called “Palestinian Resistance” equates to the “normalization of Hamas … [and] a point-of-no-return moment at Columbia.”
In another text exchange, one of the deans asked the other two if it was really true that Columbia students had been kicked out of campus clubs for being Jewish. Then there was another exchange in which Change-Kim expressed concerns about the antisemitism panel itself.
“This is difficult to listen to but I’m trying to keep an open mind to learn about this point of view,” she wrote.
Patashnick in another exchange said that one of the antisemitism panel speakers was “taking full advantage of this moment” by making it about the “huge fundraising potential” in support of Israeli causes.
All three of the deans seemed to agree in another exchange that the parent of a Jewish student at Columbia must have had access to the school’s administration because of her wealth. https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-07-15-columbia-university-suspends-deans-antisemitic-text-messages.html ‘Some cut to many pieces, some burnt alive’: Aabasan massacre horrors [The Israelis were merely trying to get this mastermind, that they missed again.]
Dozens of residents of Aabasan al-Kabira, located on the southeastern outskirts of Khan Younis in Gaza, were massacred by heavy bombs, which were dropped on civilians by Israeli warplanes. This is just one of thousands of similar massacres in recent months, through which Israeli occupation forces are turning Gaza into a lifeless region.
“There was no trace of my child,” “blood was the only thing you could hear, see and smell,” and “The street was a pool of blood” are testimonies The Guardian reported from survivors of one of four harrowing massacres that occurred at or near schools housing forcibly displaced families over the course of four days last week. https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/-some-cut-to-many-pieces–some-burnt-alive—aabasan-massacr Testimonies From the Mawasi Massacre: 90 People Buried in the Sand
In a crater in the ground almost larger than a schoolyard, a group of young men dig through the sand and pull out the bodies.
“His head is there! His head is there!” someone yells. A man emerges from the hole, carrying a child.
“Who knows who this child is? Who knows his family? Where are his parents?” he calls out…
..At 10 a.m. on Saturday, while people were starting their day, the Israeli military targeted the area with successive airstrikes, leading to a massacre that, according to the Ministry of Health in Gaza, has, as of the time of writing, killed 90 people and injured over 300 others. Half of them are women and children, the health ministry says.
Shaima Farwaneh, 16, was near the site of the massacre when it happened. She was preparing to make breakfast for her family when the bombs fell.
People and sand scattered everywhere, limbs that were once attached to bodies flying over their heads.
“A leg hit me, and I saw dismembered bodies a few meters away,” Shaima told Mondoweiss. “I saw a young child screaming. He lost his lower limbs and was crawling on his hands and screaming. The bombs didn’t stop, and suddenly the boy disappeared. I saw how he vanished before me while we ran and lowered our eyes to the ground, unable to do anything but run.”
Shaima describes hearing seven explosions in short succession before it was over. “What a life we live in these tents that we have to see the dismembered bodies of our siblings and families fly over our heads.”
When the ambulance and Civil Defense crews arrived near a well-known crowded market for residents of the area, their vehicles were targeted as well, according to the director of the Civil Defense in Khan Younis, Yamen Abu Suleiman. Two Civil Defense workers were killed in the strike.
Abu Suleiman said that the occupation targeted Al-Mawasi with a large barrage of missiles, which led to many casualties. “The occupation targeted the area more than once to prevent us from any rescue operation,” he tells Mondoweiss, denouncing the silence of the International Committee of the Red Cross over Israel’s prevention of rescue teams from doing their work.
Israel claims that the airstrikes were an attempt to assassinate Muhammad al-Deif, the head of the armed wing of Hamas, the al-Qassam Brigades, as well as the commander of al-Qassam’s Khan Younis District Brigade, Rafi Salama. https://scheerpost.com/2024/07/15/testimonies-from-the-mawasi-massacre-90-people-buried-in-the-sand/UNRWA Headquarters in Israel ‘Flattened’ by Israeli Military, The building was destroyed as Israel has escalated attacks across Gaza https://news.antiwar.com/2024/07/15/unrwa-headquarters-in-israel-flattened-by-israeli-military/
Yemen’s Houthis target 3 ships in Red, Mediterranean Seas
Group has been targeting ships that are Israeli-owned, flagged, operated or headed to Israeli ports in Red Sea, Gulf of Aden https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/yemen-s-houthis-target-3-ships-in-red-mediterranean-seas/3276318July 17, 2024 at 2:28 pm #163996John DayParticipant Gail Tverberg, at Our Finite World, takes a methodical approach, which you won’t often see. The Advanced Economies are headed for a downfall
(Closing) We don’t know what is ahead. The economy is a self-organizing system that seems to figure out its own way of resolving the problem of not enough resources to go around because of diminishing returns. The world economy seems to be headed toward reorganization.
I believe that the Covid-19 era represented one rather strange self-organized response to the “not enough oil to go around” problem. Figure 6 shows a clear dip in the amount of oil consumed in 2020, particularly by the Advanced Economies. Some of this reduced oil consumption continues, even now, because more people started working from home, saving on oil. Another helpful change was a huge ramp-up in the use of online meetings.
It is possible that new adaptations to limited oil supply may appear in as strange a way as the Covid-19 era did.
Another possibility is that the Advanced Economies, particularly the US, will encounter severe financial problems as the rest of the world moves away from the US dollar. Or the problem could be falling asset prices because of higher interest rates, causing many financial institutions to fail. Or the problem could be too much money being printed, but practically nothing to buy, causing severe inflation of commodity prices.
War may be a possibility because it is an age-old way of dealing with resource problems. For one thing, it becomes easy to raise debt to pay for a war. This debt can be used to hire soldiers and buy munitions. With the higher debt, the GDP of the economy can be expected to suddenly look better because of the stimulus given to it. The major “catch” is that picking a fight with a major competitor or two could prove to be disastrous.
Let us hope that our leaders make wise choices and keep us away from severe problems for as long as possible. https://ourfiniteworld.com/2024/06/22/the-advanced-economies-are-headed-for-a-downfall/ RFK Jr.’s Eldest Son (Allegedly) Leaks Phone Call Between Trump And His Father In Which Trump Confesses He Know Truth About Vaccines, That Babies “Change Right Before Your Eyes, “I See It All The Time
Very Good Sign, Despite Trump’s Abysmal Record; RFK Jr. Tweets That He Is “Mortified,” and Apologized Profusely https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/rfk-jrs-eldest-son-allegedly-leaksDr. Paul Alexander, Babies having heart attacks in utero? In the womb? The unthinkable is happening & Dr. James Thorp OBGYN with 43 years of experience, explains devastating consequences of COVID mRNA shot https://palexander.substack.com/p/babies-having-heart-attacks-in-utero
26-Year-Old Who Died After COVID Vaccine Not ‘Correctly Informed’ About Shot’s Risk
A medical practice in the United Kingdom has acknowledged that a 26-year-old man who died 13 days after receiving AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine from a brain blood clot was not correctly informed about the risk posed by the vaccine, the BBC reported Friday. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/jack-hurn-death-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-not-informed-risk/July 17, 2024 at 2:28 pm #163997John DayParticipant Meryl Nass MD, Yes, lab-made and lab-held viruses do jump out of the lab and have killed lots of people and caused pandemics too
Extremely important paper by Martin Furmanski, MD that no one knows about https://merylnass.substack.com/p/yes-lab-made-and-lab-held-viruses Meryl Nass MD, The drum beat for bird flu vaccines has begun: nonsensical, couched in a pseudo-scientific jumble of thoughts.
The “pro vax experts” all feed at the biodefense trough or treat animals, but opine on humans. I bolded their names. https://merylnass.substack.com/p/the-drum-beat-for-bird-flu-vaccines Matt Stoller, .Inside the Mafia of Pharma Pricing
4% of all the money in America flows through a few mafia-like health care conglomerates. The FTC just released a ground-breaking report on how they operate. And it is gearing up to sue. https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/inside-the-mafia-of-pharma-pricingJuly 17, 2024 at 3:07 pm #163999kultsommerParticipantIncompetent or “incompetent” people put in a position with secured good salary and even “power” are one of the greatest assets of the ruling class.
However, the latter surround themselves with the real competency where it matters – their day-to-day life.Dr D likes to bring his dribbles to a beloved crescendo. Like: “From each according to their needs”.
Then Ayn comes onto the stage. Grown man in awe with the “hero comics” masquerading as a literature? In the real world such a “heroes” are embodied in a grotesque forms of Bezos, Gates….even Musk.July 17, 2024 at 3:18 pm #164001my parents said knowParticipantI have a question: had Crooks’s gun been fired? Were there casings on the roof? Would they have rolled down?
July 17, 2024 at 3:20 pm #164002kultsommerParticipantKunstler, on his site, has a new podcast with Orlov.
Listen as what makes one country strong. Definitely not what Ayn preaches and (some) Americans adore. -
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