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July 5, 2015 at 12:04 pm #22136Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
Unknown Magazine and cannonballs at Battery Rodgers, Alexandria 1863 I hardly ever go out in the morning, the first 7-8 hours of every single day are
[See the full post at: Independence Day, Twice Removed]July 5, 2015 at 4:43 pm #22139GreenpaParticipantI envy you being right there; and really look forward to your first hand observations. I know perfectly well that what you see and hear can easily be just a fragment- but it beats the hell out of anything filtered through any media. 🙂
July 5, 2015 at 6:20 pm #22143George PParticipantResults of the Greek Referendum:
61% against the austerity measures.
A very strong message, indeed.Now will the banks open again, ECB? Your move…
July 5, 2015 at 6:35 pm #22144rapierParticipant2:30 US East time
30% counted
61% NO
38% YES
https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2015/jul/05/live-results-greek-referendum
July 5, 2015 at 6:43 pm #22146seychellesParticipantAt this point, the most effective way to fight the NWO globalists is to hit them in such a way that their power structure is destabilized: through mass debtor default and systemic non-payment of taxes. In short order, they will be crippled by leverage in reverse.
July 5, 2015 at 6:59 pm #22147John DayParticipantWhat happens now?
Is Sun Tzu’s Art of War, there is an injunction against interfering with your enemy, when he is defeating himself.
Russia and China should hang back a bit and let the EU/NATO do a little self-defeating again, right?
On the other hand, one of the truly great breakthroughs in the history of warfare was when generals (Darius the Persian, I think) started freeing the slaves in the cities they captured. Boy, did that help break down the walls!July 5, 2015 at 7:39 pm #22149Doc RobinsonParticipantOngoing tally of votes, direct from the Greek MInistry of Interior site:
July 5, 2015 at 7:52 pm #22150RealitycheckerParticipantPerhaps the difficulty the European, and other, elites (over class) have with Greek democracy in action is that it represents a potential time bomb that could blow up their manifesto, as postulated by David Malone on his Golem XIV blog, entitled “The Next Crisis – Part two – A manifesto for the supremacy of the 1%”.
https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2014/09/next-crisis-part-two-manifesto-1/
This extract gives the list of key objectives for such a manifesto, which in my opinion represent a plausible list for any group planning a corporate takeover of democracy when the next financial crisis explodes, as it inevitably will, together with his core conclusion as to what it represents.
” 1) The Over Class must retain and consolidate their control over the global system of debt.
2) The power to regulate must be taken from nations and effectively controlled by corporations.
3) Professionalize governance. Democracy can be and must be neutered, and an effective way of doing this is to insist that amateur, elected officials MUST take the advice of professional (read corporate) advisors. Expand current law to enforce this.
4) The financial system badly needs un-encumbered ‘assets’ to feed the debt issuing system. A new way must be found to prise sovereign assets from public ownership. Such a new way is suggested.
5) In order to facilitate the political changes necessary, the public mind-set must be changed. National Treasures such as the NHS in Britain must be re-branded as evil State Monopolies.
6) Effective ways must be found to convince people that democratic rule is no longer sufficient to protect them.
7) An alternative to Democracy must be introduced and praised. That alternative must be the Rule of International Law as written and controlled by the lawyers of the 1%. People must be told that this is all that stands between them and an increasingly hostile and anarchic world. But that it can only keep them safe if it has absolute authority over democracy. People must voluntarily bow to it out of fear and its decisions must be as absolute and unquestionable.
In conclusion, I suggest that this amounts to a dystopian version of the old environmentalist idea of Spaceship Earth. A corporate version where we are just passengers who must pay our passage in a ship someone else owns. No longer inhabitants or citizens with the same inalienable right to be there and be heard as anyone else.”
July 5, 2015 at 8:16 pm #22151GreenpaParticipantGird your loins for a Cosmic Pundit Orgy. 🙂 “The Future Of Greece Will Be…!”
It’s pretty opaque to me. Not unhopeful; the current leadership seems to actually have some idea both of what the problem is, and how the game is played. But- so many things can happen; and the future is NOT what it used to be. Our future is getting weird fast, on all fronts.
Yesterday I had the scary experience of watching children play on good playground equipment; happily, easily. Under a red, red sun. Which they did not notice. We’re living in a cloud of forest fire smoke here in Minnesota; from fires nearly 1,000 miles away in northern Saskatchewan – more fires and evacuations there today. Yes, the fires are caused by climate change. And the kids? They think it’s normal; and play on.
July 5, 2015 at 8:36 pm #22152RaleighParticipantseychelles – “…systemic non-payment of taxes.” That’s something the Greek elite and the self-employed have been doing for years. “…the authors calculate that the self-employed in 2009 dodged taxes on at least €28 billion of unreported income, enough to fill 31% of the Greek budget deficit that year.”
https://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2012/09/tax-evasion-greece
But I agree with what you’ve said. Voting does not appear to work as the elite or the vested interests choose who the candidates are, and they just end up doing whatever they damn well want when they get elected, anyways.
For the average person – defaulting on debts, not paying taxes, refusing to buy products from corporations who offshore jobs overseas or who hire temporary foreign workers to take jobs that could be filled by the citizenry – is the only way we can fight them, throw a wrench in the works.
If everyone did this, the NWO would be toast. Depositor bail-ins could be met with elite jail-ins, plus confiscation of every asset these criminals own.
July 5, 2015 at 9:20 pm #22153seychellesParticipantraleigh
“… elite jail-ins, plus confiscation of every asset these criminals own. ” And the day WILL come, perhaps with something more dramatic than jail-ins and with nationalization of the assets of the 1%. The NWO globalists will see “creative destruction” from a different angle. But the transition will require brutality to make the potential goodness of humanity again ascendant.July 5, 2015 at 9:59 pm #22154Ken BarrowsParticipantAfter my comment of predicting a “nai” two days ago, I give my kudos to the Greeks.
July 5, 2015 at 11:39 pm #22155SeanGParticipantThe voters of Greece are very incredibly brave to unhitch from the debt train that is carrying the rest of us. Their efforts to attempt a new way will either inspire others or cower us all into resigned submission to our fate….the fiscal cliff!
July 6, 2015 at 12:10 am #22156ProfessorlocknloadParticipantAnother name for direct democracy is mob rule. That said, could it be some folks voted themselves out of the frying pan into the fire? Hard to figure where this leads. If this was a psychological vote against austerity (living within means) then there is going to be some disappointment ahead. Certainly, if the same government that sold the public trust down the river nationalizes the banks,,, well, good luck with that.
All eyes on France, Italy, Spain and Portugal now. Looks like some major Nationalists/Socialists have been handed an example at which to point,,, provided it doesn’t all implode, and they all find a need to run from the splash back.
Marine Le Pen, are you watching this?
July 6, 2015 at 3:52 am #22157TAE SummaryParticipant* The NAIs have it; Future of Greece is unknown but there will be an orgy of opinions; Ilargi is in the right place to give unfiltered news; Would be nice to be there; Pundit envy
* Children at play don’t notice the sun turning red; Sun Tzu said don’t disarm your enemy while he is busy shooting himself in the foot
* Voting doesn’t work; Throw your clogs into the works instead; Fight the NWO through mass debt default and systemic non-payment of taxes; Replace depositor bail-ins with banker jail-ins
* Democracy is mob rule; Unhitching from the debt train is dangerous on your way up Mount Olympus; Greeks move out of the frying pan and into the FIRE
* The Greek vote will inspire or depress us; The ball is in the ECB’s court; France, Italy, Spain and Portugal can use this as a springboard provided there is water in the pool
* Corporations will rule the world
– Professionals will call the shots
– Everything will be privatized
– International law will keep us safe
– We won’t inherit the earth from our ancestors, we will borrow it from the 1%
– Matewan writ largeJuly 6, 2015 at 5:24 am #22160RaleighParticipantProfessor – direct democracy might be mob rule, but what’s better – mob rule or oligarchic rule? At least this way the “mob” has a friggin’ chance. Now, if we had a benevolent government who actually cared about its citizens, then, yeah, referendums probably wouldn’t be necessary. In fact, a benevolent government would probably want to have a highly educated public, want to have transparency, just so everybody understood the issues.
The oligarchy have got to be plenty ticked off by this “mob” business, the great mass of ignorants having their say. They’re probably screaming, “Why, if anybody is going to be mobbing, it’s going to be us. We can’t allow them to out-mob us.” So much so I expect to see somebody dead in the not too distant future.
July 6, 2015 at 5:36 am #22161RaleighParticipantTAE Summary – another good one! Funny when it’s all summed up. Chatter, chatter, all to no matter. We’re heating up in more ways than one. It seems the Arctic is getting just a little bit warm, but we couldn’t be causing any of it, could we? (sarc)
“Also, on July 1, 2015, a temperature of 36°C (96.8°F) was recorded near the Kolyma River that flows into the East Siberian Sea.
The Arctic is hotter than Miami!
Somehow or other, 98°F in the Arctic makes the world seem upside down/sideways. Is it?”
Crank up the evolution machine, set it to high speed; methane is on its way.
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