Debt Rattle August 18 2020

http://www.johndayblog.com/2020/08/pandemic-complexity-musings.html
I have been talking to people, in the course of doing errands linked to the death and estate of an old friend, with whom I have practiced Buddhism since we both started in spring of 2001. After conversing with another friend about current events and historical patterns, I responded to an email about whether the viral threat is completely fabricated or not.
(Then I tidied it up to be this essay…)

The Novel coronavirus pandemic in the USA is a complex event medically, economically, and humanly.
One faction lives in abject fear, and another faction lives in denial, while they can maintain it.
The factions are incompatible and completely aligned against each other. (That’s not everybody, though.)

3 per thousand people who catch novel coronavirus infection die, and mostly over 60. Older and sicker get hit harder. However, if you actually get diagnosed by a test, your chance of dying is more like 3 per 100.
A majority of people, 80-90% never get tested, and that was revealed by the early US seropositivity studies in California and New York. The number of cases implied was about 10X the number of cases confirmed.
Is that pattern holding? Those seropositivity studies are ongoing, but the ongoing results have been secret since April.
The Texas Governor Knows, but I do not. I see they are tracking the viral penetration of our human population, and slowing it down with masks, and closing bars, when it gets so fast that the hospitals get overloaded. That’s it.
There is a lot of human suffering and a lot of aunts and uncles and grandparents have died recently in our circle of friends and family.
People suffer, and suffering people get secluded and hospitalized.
Effective treatments are being suppressed and information about them is censored, and disparaged in the mass media.
That censorship is not completely effective, is it?
People do know they are being lied to and manipulated, but “which” narrative do they choose to deal with it?
US elites are trying to herd people into blue-camp and red-camp, with different sets of lies and misconceptions, but antagonistic to each other. Each sees some of the lies that the other believes, but not the lies they believe themselves.

This virus, militarized in a lab, does things we are only learning about. It specifically attacks the linings of blood vessels, shutting off lots of little vessels and starving lots of bits of brain, lung, kidney, liver, etc. of blood flow, which creates patterns of disease we have never seen before. It creates cottage-cheese damage to all these organs, which we have never seen the long term effects of. We have seen heart attacks, strokes, renal failure and pulmonary embolism, and we are seeing lots of all that now, from big blood clots.
That’s one thing. The other thing is that this virus hides from the immune system, when it is reproducing in a cell, so the immune system can’t see to destroy that cell-full-of-virus before it releases the virus.
Does this lead to sleeper-cells? Can people have dormant virus pop back up in a month or two? I just saw somebody who may have had exactly that happen to her. I can’t say yet. She had real, systemic COVID and positive nasal swabs, and stuff on CT of her chest, and typical excess clotting in her blood, twice, about 6 weeks apart.
Do not accept a simplistic answer. COVID is not the black death and it is not trivial like a cold.

Yes, every crisis serves the elites, just like every error favors the bank, not you.
This virus leaked, I think, which put the elites on their back foot, pushed them to rapidly adapt, like the rest of us.
They don’t trust each other, don’t trust us, and are mainly trying to hold onto flows of wealth and power, which are in rapid decline, but they are holding onto THEIR FLOW like it is a solid object.
It is not, but we humans are very loath to relinquish what we feel to be “ours”. It hurts us. It’s “wrong”.
Power elites need to keep us sidelined in fear and confusion, but power elites are also subject to the mass psychosis , which is developing.

Be sane. Don’t follow an ideology. This is chaotic. This is people going insane and acting out a recurring pattern of history where a lot of people die, including elites. Don’t take a side. Don’t accept a partisan narrative.
Clues are being dropped by folks like Bill Gates, that there will be more pandemics, which seems likely. Pandemics are a cull the elites can do without destroying valuable infrastructure. They are getting a better understanding of how pandemics move through the world, more comfortable with it.
I personally suspect that internet warfare, shutting down the web and grid and phones, can be used on top of viral pandemics to take out cities and regions. All of our eggs are getting transferred into that basket these days.

I think we humans are going into a periodic mass culling, like WW-1, and WW-2, but I really think it started with an accidental leak of weaponized virus, started before it was all agreed upon, and operational.

It seems like history always has an element of surprise and chaos, even for ruling elites, when a real reset starts.
I see that now in our herd-mind. There are always some who don’t much participate in the herd-mind.
Don’t get stampeded.
Grow a garden. Ride a bike. Meditate, Store some rice, beans, salt, sugar, oil, onions, garlic, etc.
Try to keep a low profile, on the sidelines, without much worth stealing.
Do help your neighbors in little ways, when the opportunity presents. Be a good citizen.

To the elites this may be mainly about controlling us with fear, but if you get sick with this virus, you will know pain, suffering, deep fatigue, and probably fear. I talk to my patients.
My daughter, Holly is a hospitalist in internal medicine at the country hospital in San Antonio.
Lots of people of all kinds are dying, and they are dying alone, without their loved ones, and they are dying through different mechanisms than we saw until just a few months ago.
You probably won’t die from this. Probably.
You do not want to get sick with it, for sure.
Take 5000 units per day of vitamin-D, but if you are just starting, take 10,000 units per day for the first couple of months.

thank you John Day. excellent post .

Raul In my humble opinion seems like you have become a Trump cheerleader. Why? Biden -Harris makes me actually physically ill but Trump is doing so much damage to the core of the environment, social division , inequality, corporate socialism (fascism) and his leadership on Covid is actually deplorable. just sayin

John, fabulous take on things. Re avocados, I have tried Rincorn, Hass, Bacon and Fuerte. we get to minus 4C with longish winters but it is the hot summer sun – up to 45c that burns the bark and causes the cambium layer to suffer badly – I have given up but if you make sure young trees have humidity and protection with limewash on the bark you should be fine in Texas.
Pollination is a pain but ants help

… winning ….
1. Get Trump out of office
2. Correct all the bad things done by Rep.
3. Divert cash flow to Dem.’s hidden bank accounts
4. Lock em up
5. Help/improve the social/economic situation of the blue collar workers
6. Change perception of reality

Bernie never recovered from the DNC theft of 2016. His recent run lacked Heart as the truth became obvious. The next genuine progressive wave is fermenting but not ready for kegging. Bernie opened doors for AOC, KATIE PORTER and more while Covid opened doors for Mayor Lance-Bottoms, Governors Whitmer, Grisham and more. Bernie still has a role in the next phase; his patience will pay off.

Who is angrier? In 2016 it was those angry folks who pushed Trump to victory. I disagree with the logic in the Greene article that the angry factor will prevail and deliver the knockout punch to Biden. In this moment, it is the disgusted vote that will deliver Biden the win. Same theory just a different source.

Who is disgusted with President Trump? How can this disgust be focused, clarified and channeled, the facts collected and documented? Use Trumps own WORDS – everything you need is there. Depending on how effective the disgust campaign will be – and the campaign’s ability to translate disgust into taking the only possible meaningful action (which is run from the source of the disgust) – will determine the margin of victory.

How is being disgusted different from being angry? Why would that make a difference? Does one move from anger to disgust? Hummm.

Of course the Biden campaign must simultaneously build the case for their path forward. There has to be a vision that all, including the disgusted can hold on to.

“Me, it makes me feel that perhaps the Dems don’t actually want to win.”

Oh Please! Everything you do is an assault on the Dems and a buffer (or an outright misrepresentation) to an accurate accounting of Trump and the harm he does to everything he touches. I can only imagine that Putin loves you for it!

The TAE I once lauded and supported is gone! And now so am I.

At least you will still have your toady, V. to comment on the art (angry expat aside) which he has so fastidiously done since you chastised him a couple of years back. As well as Dr. D-mento, that paragon of logic and common sense.

Say whatever you want in response. I don’t care, I won’t be back to read it.

What is so hard about understanding that you will lose no matter which party is running the show? I guess some people like losing at a slower pace?

@Planatarycitizen (such an altruistic name)

Have you listened to NPR recently? I’m sure Raul has a larger audience then they do so any objective reality he provides to us must really be getting the masses of the PMC frothing at the mouth. Anyways i listened to NPR last weekend while making an hour long drive. Not once did they say anything objectively negative about democrats. They had some cheerleading about the convention, which i found odd for a non partisan publicly sponsered and corporate radio station to do (they get tons of money from the ford foundation who also donated about 100 million to BLM). You don’t find that odd? The only negative story they had about politics was about guess who, come on guess

Try testing it

Only post negative trump things and pro biden things. See if suddenly the google ad revenue starts pouring in. Worth a shot and i’d be willing to put up with it if it confirms many suspicions.

“I don’t understand the implied idea that I would be some secret Trump cheerleader. I get why people don’t tell pollsters if they plan to vote Trump, that’s just the political climate today.”

Just the political climate today huh, i consider it strong arming. Doesn’t anyone remember what life was like in high school? That’s all the anti trump hysteria has been for the last four years. The cool kids are telling us not to listen to the new kid. That is really all it is. And for all the openmindedness those on the left profess to have, their actions the past four years have only proven the exact opposite. Grow up, the game is getting serious and if you seriously want a free country and to save the planet like most of you claim, learn that neither party has your interest and start discussing creating a new one. CJ Hopkins wrote an excellent article in 2019 about Bernie, and he called it to a T. How many times does lucy have to pull the football away for you guys to learn?

The Magic Socialist

Susan B. Anthony ? ? ?

and we were thinking Assange

WTF

John Day, I appreciate your words of wisdom:

US elites are trying to herd people into blue-camp and red-camp, with different sets of lies and misconceptions, but antagonistic to each other. Each sees some of the lies that the other believes, but not the lies they believe themselves.

Be sane. Don’t follow an ideology. This is chaotic. This is people going insane and acting out a recurring pattern of history where a lot of people die, including elites. Don’t take a side. Don’t accept a partisan narrative.

Both sides are being played.

Here’s a graph which surprised me, after all the media stories about overwhelmed hospitals. Out of all the Emergency Department visits at US hospitals during the pandemic, the percentage of visits due to “COVID-19-Like Illness” was just 7 percent at the peak. Digging deeper into the data, the only region which got into the double digits was Region 2 (NY, NJ, and PR), which was above 10% during a four-week period, peaking at 16%.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/08142020/covid-like-illness.html

When it comes to reading between the lines and thinking for yourself, these recent articles from Ted Rall are food for thought:

There Isn’t That Much Difference between Democrats and Republicans
August 17, 2020

The Data Is Clear: Progressives Should Boycott Biden
July 1, 2020

https://rall.com/

“Not sure how either way would qualify as Adult; Sexual Content. But i’ve requested a review (can take a week). ”

Ha come on, you think they’re telling you the truth as to why they’re cutting off the money flow to you? When was the last time you worked for a corporate entity Raul? People will screw you just because they don’t like the way you look sometimes, and you don’t even have to have a different color of skin for it to happen (shocking i know). If i were betting man, i’d bet your request for an inquiry into why they’re choking off your money flow will be some sort of corporate speak BS. After a few back and forths they’ll tell you they can’t find anything wrong with it and you’ll still continue to be without any ad revenue.

@upstateNYer

Watching his results using my hands off method, quite honestly, I don’t see any difference between what he accomplishes (using that term loosely) and what, say, Obama accomplished. Seems pretty much the same to me. Environment, immigrants, wages, jobs, blah, blah … what, seriously, is the difference between Obama and Trump? No one can actually say, can they, using real statistics? I suggest we put together one of those side-by-side charts and see how these 2 stack up on these pivotal issues. Want to place bets on that? 😉

OMG, this! I think Trump would fare pretty well in the foreign policy column compared to Obama (no new invasions, hey?) but I couldn’t say how it would wash out on the domestic side. If you don’t follow the minutiae of the Trump Outrage of the Day (“Immigrant children in cages!”, “Trump builds palace in Moscow for Putin!”, “Trump’s hands are actually tiny!” “Trump is literally shoving polar bears off ice floes in the Bering Sea!” etc, etc etc) Trump is just a Republican president, doing the Big Business-friendly things that Republican presidents do. Yes, he’s doing them in his uniquely coarse and uncouth way, with occasional slap-dashes of incompetence, but to me he’s not an outlier at all. Even setting aside Democrat presidents such as Obama, who I think is quite smart, does anyone think that Bush 1 or Bush 2, our two most recent Republican presidents prior to Trump, would have handled the pandemic better?! There would have been the same wishful thinking, the same flip-flops that favored air travel and big business over public health, the same platitudes and nonsense. Does anyone remember James Watt? Does anyone remember “Heckuva job, Brownie!” How about W’s war in Iraq that killed half a million people, predicated on lies? Or the ongoing “civil war” in Syria, started by that Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama, where we armed some of the very same people who were the villains in the prior war, only now we called them moderate rebels? But no, Trump is Hitler and democracy is stake.

Rant off.

The trillions of dollars of the listed twelve oligarchs pretty much run America. Besides the Walton family, most of the rest are intimately involved with DARPA’s Internet that Al Gore took credit for. One, Jeff Bezos, is in a cold war with Donald Trump. The two clans of plutocrats, globalists and nationalists, stomping around, positioning themselves, delayed my mail for the last two weeks. I depend on USPS for delivery of my medicine and paying my bills.

All twelve, deep in their hearts, deny that outsourcing, cutting taxes, plus deregulation have anything to do with the collapse of government and their rapidly increasing wealth.

When I retired almost nine years ago all the cubicles where I worked were full of people. Now it is so decimated, the few remaining are moving back to DC when the Office reopens, shortly, despite the COVID-19 pandemic. Donald Trump is a disaster. The Free World is finished. US troops bring the coronavirus contagion with them.

At least in Maryland, I can vote for the Green Party without the conundrum of being forced to vote for Joe Biden. If Donald Trump wins, there will be a million families with dead grandparents, fathers and mothers, even children. Tens of millions will be without a job or income. There will be critical shortages (California is already having rolling blackouts). Chaos is assured. Globalists and the lackey intelligence operatives will initiate a color revolt.

On the other hand, if Joe Biden is elected, in January 2021, there will be no change. The federal government will be unable to end the pandemic unless, the jackpot vaccine really works. The unrest and the economic depression will continue. Even with a safe and effective vaccine it will be year or two before everyone feels safe to go out in public and revive the service and air travel industries.

Without a working vaccine or treatment, it will be 1932, all over again, except without a FDR – a new dark age.

VietnamVet
I just couldn’t resist expanding what you said.

Whoever win, “….. there will be a million families with dead grandparents, fathers and mothers, even children. Tens of millions will be without a job or income. There will be critical shortages …..” everywhere