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    Julian #Assange attending today’s hearing by video-link from H.M.P. Belmarsh. It is astounding how much he seems to have aged in the space of six mont
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 12 2021]

    #83416
    Veracious Poet
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    The CDC lied again. Who notices anymore?

    By close to 50%. How often does the CDC make such “mistakes”?

    The CDC is just one long horror story. Bunch of career bureaucrats in no way up to an actual challenge.

    They won’t go after him them for killing old people. Too many other Democrats psychopaths did the same.

    Once your reputation is gone, you can boldly carry on…

    #83417
    a kullervo
    Participant

    The saddest side effect of growing up is to lose the sense of awe.
    (Pity the child who was born without it and the one who lost it prematurely.)

    #83418
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    With regard to 2,000 nurses quitting in Mississippi over the past eight months: Not wanting to get the serum forced upon them may have played role. But when you see something this dramatic happen, especially in the middle of a healthcare crisis and when a relatively well-paying job such as nursing (nurses almost certainly are not paid what they’re worth, but the job is well-paid compared to standard working-class jobs) should be a good thing to have, the causes are likely to be a complex matter.

    Ayn Rand once called the USSR the most incompetent country in the world, but ever since Soviet communism went bye-bye, the USA has been bound and determined to snag that particular honor for itself. And based on what I’ve heard about how healthcare in this country is actually done, in few other places would you see this institutional incompetence more than in the area of healthcare. Having to deal with the dog’s breakfast that is the healthcare system while personally witnessing and dealing all the death and suffering that severe Covid illness causes really has to nothing short of heartbreaking for the front-line personnel who are our nurses. I think that this would be especially true for those nurses who went into the profession out of a genuine desire to help people and contribute something worthwhile to society.

    #83419
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Sorry, “dealing with all the death and suffering”

    #83420
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    @deflationista: When 75% of what you bring to the discussion is, “Wow, you guys are really crazy”, it should be apparent to you that your issue is your own insecurity over the apparent fact that 40-45% of the population doesn’t want to be coerced into receiving an experimental serum whose affects cannot be undone. When your plan isn’t going to work, making a spectacle of yourself on the Internet isn’t going to suddenly make it work. HTH

    #83422
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    The weird weather patterns that have been asserting themselves lately have been one of the few things we talk about around here that aren’t about the coronavirus. Over the past six days, Wisconsin has been drenched by a six-day stretch of severe thunderstorms accompanied by pronounced heat and humidity (though still temperate compared to what other locales have experienced this summer). All the rain will probably contribute quite a bit towards compensating for the relatively dry conditions this year (but once again not as bad as other locales have been experiencing), but this spate of rainstorms has brought problems of its own that we’re having to deal with.

    #83423
    Dr. D
    Participant

    IVM should work on ADE, although you would have less time, and therefore be more prophylactically-focused. Again, because of the mechanism, neither CV nor the variants can dodge it. How can we suppose this? It’s been out for many decades and none of the former tropical viruses have avoided it. But that’s just concluded/hypothecated on the known moving parts of the machine.

    Deflationista’s argument against Lindell is that he’s a poopy-pants who CNN doesn’t like. Very convincing. You wanted us to give you space to present and argue evidence. Ok, where is it? What’s are his claims and what is specifically wrong with them?

    My non-evidence evidence is: Do government employees usually risk prison to refuse to answer subpoenas, claim they don’t know how elections are run, they say, as the head of the matter, claim to have no passwords, when they believe Joe was clearly the most popular President in world history in the cleanest election ever run? I don’t need to drill down in the details when that’s been popping up nationwide.

    Or would they say, “Sure, idiots and sore losers, we won fair and square so here’s everything you want, I’ll meet you in any room with any evidence you like, and show you just how wrong you are. Read it and weep, suckers”?

    Not needing any evidence, at all, ever, I can easily distinguish between the two groups. One wants procedure, double-checking, and transparency. One wants a lock-up, do/believe what you’re told, anybody who dissents is attacked personally, legally, monetarily, and sometimes physically. So which side is the good side, looking for truth?

    If I/We are wrong, is even the slightest harm done? No. If I/We are right, is good promoted and not bad? Yes. So why would there be the slightest resistance to a legal, State-authorized audit?

    Easy-peasy. So easy a Caveman can do it. So easy Joe NASCAR can understand. So easy to shut up all the confirmation bias cult, so easy to bring America together, and yet they will go to jail rather than 1) follow any law whatsoever and 2) do it.

    Doesn’t that seem weird?

    So you’re on the side that refuses all law, all subpoenas, all normal process, and shuts down all debate, inquiry, information, and free speech of your fellow men. …The Good side, ‘natch. Are you really sure, ‘cause those don’t read like “good side” characteristics to me.

    Give all the docs, count the audit, let Lindell make a fool of himself, who cares? That it’s the #Opposite tells me you don’t believe it either.

    Why do 2,000 nurse quit? Conditions, period. Health Care workers are regularly assaulted, often daily. And not by the patients but by the visiting FAMILY. Hospital Administrators, safe at home, useless as rocks, making as much money, defend the FAMILY assaults against the Nurses and staff. You cannot call security on the family. It’s bad for your Yelp reviews. For decades, but as the general population gets worse and loses their minds, the issue gets larger. They then cut staff, take bonuses in the most expensive, least-provided health care in the solar system.

    So not only can I go into a hospital as the only place I can REFUSE vaccines and all care, I can (sexually) assault every nurse and tech, all day long, for months, while doing it.

    It’s so bad, some states have proposed a law making it legal for nurses to prosecute for assault. …Er, hey, wait: isn’t ASSAULT by definition a crime, an essential Human Right unable to be suspended anytime, ever? “SHUT UP AND DO AS YOU’RE TOLD. If we say you have to be assaulted daily, then by God lie down and think if England, but don’t whine to me about it.”

    Yes, they suspended basic human rights for nurses and health workers years ago, and they are still pretending that they are legally suspended now. Although nurses are well-paid, they are also completely, unavoidably responsible for every screw up by doctors, techs, or anyone else, and will be hung out to dry in an instant. Okay, fine, but what happens when Admin sets down a staffing shortage with instead of 3 pt/nurse, 10 patients/nurse? Ooops, sorry: MY STAFFING IS STILL YOUR FAULT. I got a Maserati to wax during work-at-home, peasants, and the money from chronically short-staffing isn’t going to spend itself.

    So…let me review: attacked every week if not every day. Check. For no reason, as it’s the family not the patient with dementia or Narcan. Check. Totally, easily avoidable. Check. It’s actually breaking all human rights, since ever. Check. Plenty, gobs, buckets, waterfalls of money available to fix it. Check. No warning of any kind, no matter how long or well-documented changes anything. Check. Everything will be blamed on you if anything goes wrong, even if superhuman effort is made daily, ruining the physical and mental health of the nurse. Check. You can go to jail for doing your job. Check.

    What’s not to like??? Sign me up today! …So this is why Missouri has $28,000 SIGNING BONUSES, and no nurse will show up. Because they never fixed the problem: THEM. The administrators and legal review can’t solve it, because it’s THEM who create it and would have to arrest and fire THEMSELVES. For U.N. Human Rights violations. And worse, give up their and Insurance Company paychecks. Never happen. The sun will burn out of the sky, the moon will fall, they entire system will burn down and fall over, leaving a tea towel and oregano from your lawn first. I mean, clearly. It’s been 30 years. Everybody’s dying, and long before Covid. If anything could turn it by now, it would have. It’s just monopolies at work, doing what they do. Monopolies that can ONLY exist and be defended by force of government. Congress wants it, so: no more nurses. You die. The End. Highly trained, caring people, still young enough are at Taco Bell instead. …I mean, you COULD reinstall basic human rights and basic, common-sense legal fault and solve this in 6 months, but suit yourself. Blame Covid for there being no beds that YOU closed, on purpose, for DECADES, and drove out every nurse or worker you could find.

    So…we arrest the greatest Mass Murderer in the history of New York yet? Surpassing General Howe? They guy who closed all hospital beds and Psych facilities in the decades leading up to now? No? Wake me when there’s rule of law. Rule of law anywhere in medicine.

    #83424
    Germ
    Participant

    Vitamin D levels in children with COVID-19: a report from Turkey

    “…this is one of the primary studies that analysed the relationship between vitamin D level and COVID-19 infection in a paediatric age group; however, our study had a larger sample size. Our study revealed that vitamin D deficiency is correlated to COVID-19 severity.”

    https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/epidemiology-and-infection/article/vitamin-d-levels-in-children-with-covid19-a-report-from-turkey/627E5F7B744279CDBF0BD0CC12938C2C

    #83425
    Germ
    Participant

    Association of Myocarditis With BNT162b2 Messenger RNA COVID-19 Vaccine in a Case Series of Children

    “COVID-19 vaccine-associated myocarditis may have a benign short-term course in children; however, the long-term risks remain unknown.”

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2783052

    #83427

    For tomorrow’s Debt Rattle:

    Young Adult Mortality In Israel During The Covid-19 Crisis

    ..the surge in mortality coincided with the rollout of the Israeli vaccination campaign for the 20 sto 49-year-olds, which reached more than 75% of individuals in this age group. This unexpected rise in excess mortality among young adults was also found in two other countries, the United Kingdom and Hungary, which have in common with Israel a massive vaccination of their populations. Thus, our observations should prompt to pause the campaign..

    vv

    #83428
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Dr. D: Well, WRT the assault issue, that one probably varies from state to state. Here in Wisconsin, there is a sign posted in Aurora Healthcare facilities that any physical assaults on any staff will not be tolerated, and I hope to Spirit that they mean it and enforce it! Wisconsin has a way of being an island of semi-sanity in a sea of madness, which is one of the reasons I remain here. Well, except for legalizing medicinal cannabis, that is. :-/

    #83429
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    In addition to refusing the experimental vaccines because there have been no mid- to long-term studies of side effects, there is probably a percentage of the population refusing vaccination because:

    1) Forcing a medical procedures on people so they can earn money and participate in society is unconstitutional (setting aside the ethical considerations of this particularly authoritarian policy)

    2) Growing evidence the intent is to segregate the population based on medical status

    3) Even greater loss of privacy as personal health status must now be provided to the *door monitor* at public venues

    4) Blatant disregard by the CDC, et al, for the health of our children and young people by forcing an experimental procedure on them so they can participate in life

    5) Manipulative propaganda being used to instill fear and guilt to make the population give up their rights

    6) Increasing evidence the safe and effective vaccines carried a great deal of risk and haven’t contributed to the control of viral spread

    7) Massive distrust of pharma, with plenty of historical evidence as to why that is

    I could go on, of course, but even if I had been vaccinated, I would be one of the people burning my vaccine card in solidarity with the unvaccinated. What is going on now is dangerous. Period. It needs to stop. It’s our children’s and grandchildren’s future and if we don’t care about that, just what is it we DO care about?

    #83430
    jo6pac
    Participant

    Thanks for the 2 studies on the virus info.

    #83431
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Although, considering the pillage of the entire planet in our wanton lust for even more useless stuff … I’ve already answered my last question in my previous post. 🙁

    #83432
    deflationista
    Participant

    A thread that some of you might appreciate. Probably not.

    “What the crank is giving people is the *illusion* of not trusting an authority—unlike all those sheep who trust the *mainstream* authorities. A bit like the media elites who win large followings by telling you not to trust media elites.”

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1424946657242796034.html

    #83433
    Germ
    Participant

    Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 Delta Variant Among Vaccinated Healthcare Workers, Vietnam

    “Delta variant infections are associated with ….. low levels of vaccine-induced neutralizing antibodies…”

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733

    This shit shot don’t work!

    #83434
    Germ
    Participant

    Durability of SARS-CoV-2-specific T cell responses at 12-months post-infection

    “Conclusions. Our data show that SARS-CoV-2 infection induces polyfunctional memory T cells detectable at 12-months post-infection, with higher frequency noted in those who originally experienced severe disease.”

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.11.455984v1

    Go, Go, Go T-cells !!!

    #83435
    chooch
    Participant

    The corona has been circulating for quite some time and millions upon millions of people have been injected. I am sure by now that a PCR test (Ct=45) would come back positive for almost anybody independent of injection status.

    Let’s say you are a middle aged. You can either be NOT mRNA injected, healthy and asymptomatic or mRNA injected (six months ago) and asymptomatic.

    Which would you choose to enter (without a mask). The meeting will be and hour long and the air conditioning is not working.

    A) Small conference room with 10 recently mRNA injected and masked coworkers seated six feet apart.

    B) Small conference room with 10 NON mRNA injected (not sick) coworkers.

    I read somewhere that the spikes have an affinity for salic acid and plasma salic acid increases with age. Just thinking out load but it seems to be a little guano crazy to overwhelm your immune system with this mRNA technology. Probably won’t go down as one human kind’s greatest achievements.

    I think it is really a tool for tyranny. No, that’s just stupid talk.

    Thumbs up
    Elbows back
    Feet apart
    Knees together
    Bottoms up
    Tongue out

    A tooty ta, a tooty ta, a tooty ta, ta

    They want us to be like the girl on the left with her hands covering her face. Choose freedom, not the kind Macron peddling in France.

    https://fb.watch/7jBdLOnEK1/

    #83438

    Don’t laugh!

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    #83439
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    Am starting to think a new vocabulary is needed to reduce the fogs generated when greater educated meet the warm moist emotions of the lesser educated, like a cold air mass meeting tropical air. First on the agenda is the problem of distinguishing between accredited medical doctors (Dr.s) some of whom actually practice the arts of ethical medicine. They should be acknowledged as accredited medical practitioners (AMP-Dr.) while those prescribing covid-19 jabs be known henceforth as just Dr.
    The trouble is all too many medically incompetents are dispensing medical advise and should be held liable for all damages caused (assuming a viable legal /judicial system is in place). None without proper accreditation should ever be allowed to prescribe medical treatment; no judge; no priest; no politician; no administrator; no governor; not even a dog catcher. Any doing so should feel the heat of forceful revolution that clears the decks of such dregs. The streets of Wuhan were NOT filled with bodies. Achieving a virtual population reduction IS a method to reduce viral spread without actually reducing population. Unknowns will eventually become knowns and change the operational environment of contending with a pandemic and must be altered when a pandemic becomes an endemic at the time this factor changes (covid-19 pandemic was over summer 2020 and became endemic from autumn 2020). Authority must be held to account for their actions. Viral particles easily passing through a mask are effected by Brownian motion more than anything, the mask do filter droplets which may carry significant viral particle loads capable of infection.

    From this point, the verbal miasma of the covid-19 swamp muck might be cleared.
    >Some meat for TAE Summary<

    #83441
    zerosum
    Participant

    Selective reading/hearing – a compelling trail of truth

    the data from India shows that Ivermectin is effective, much more so than the vaccines.

    https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout/article_e3db8f46-f942-11eb-9eea-77d5e2519364.html
    ” the massive drop in cases and deaths in India to almost nothing after the addition of Ivermectin proved the drug’s effectiveness. This is a truth that the NIH, CDC, and FDA cannot allow because it would endanger the vaccine policy.”
    ———-

    Different Tales of Sex – Andrew Cuomo, Hunter Biden, Julian Assange

    The inevitable intrusion of reality will be vicious.

    #83442
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @deflationista

    Clinical trials require a control group of participants as a benchmark against which to measure whether the experiment reveals change in comparison to doing nothing at all.

    Thank you for your service.

    #83443
    kolya
    Participant

    Here’s a much more interesting interview with professor sarah gilbert who runs the AZ lab.

    https://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2021/07/17/news/interview_prof_sarah_gilbert_astrazeneca_oxford_uk_vaccines_covid_coronavirus_pfizer_jenner_institute-310621042/

    I’ve read the book, but don’t have the Barbie doll. There was a line in the book that jumped out and said something like “if our vaccine is a bit dangerous it’s most likely because of the spike protein and if that’s the case then every other vaccine has the same problem”.

    #83444
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Obviously Assange won’t get justice. He will probably be exonerated after his death, and become a neutered symbol for something-something-liberty-courage. Maybe they stuff his corpse like they did Hachi:

    Hachiko the Loyal Dog

    %^&

    deflationista sucks at changing TAE minds and, increasingly, at holding their attention.

    #83445
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    madam: “deflationista sucks at changing TAE minds and, increasingly, at holding their attention.

    I’ve tried, I truly have, because of, ya know, confirmation bias and all. But when I follow a link and people doubting the accepted narrative are called “cranks” right up front, it’s impossible to keep reading. I wonder how deflationista would feel if everyone here responded to her comments with, “well, crank, my thoughts are …”

    I’ll take the conference room full of unvaccinated people with no masks on for $1000, Alex … 😉 I’ve already been around the recently vaccinated. Have no interest in repeating that fiasco.

    #83446
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    I know of two people who work deep in the belly of two beasts: Boeing and the CDC.

    The Boeing person was part of the committee that safety-reviewed Boing’s disastrous 7-something-7. Said that the data given to the committee proved to be incomplete, and the problem is therefore not that person’s fault… which is technically true. This person still works for Boeing but has been seeking work elsewhere… an outfit in Hood River making “killer robots”, and something with Microsoft. Ah, choices.

    The other person works for CDC and adamantly defends its covid policies despite ample access to discrediting information.

    People’s IDENTITIES are often indistinguishable from their career. After all, they spent 15-19 years earning the education credentials to become a certified ‘important person’, maybe even an Important Person. Then they crawl up the corporate ladder. They’re deeply invested in their perch.

    Most people confuse themselves with their identitiy. Losing their identity would feel like death: they have little if any oidea of who/what they are, and their job is everything to their identity.

    One can brew a lot of industrial-strength denial from that dynamic.

    #83447
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Raul, thanks for the laugh. 🙂 That truly reflects just how idiotic this has gotten.

    #83448
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Raul – I tried not to laugh but the highlighted script made me chuckle – I have to wonder what the condition would be that the doctors considered worse than death.

    I have a feeling it may be the sensation of being wrong and not owning it.

    #83449
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Also this one is for Oroboros and others – I had to fact check myself regarding the ultimate viability of GMO seed and it appears I was wrong (never pleasant) – they will produce true to type (although some modern corn has pig genes which makes vegetarianism more limiting than before).
    Check this out though – https://doowans.com/the-silent-gmo-sterilization-of-the-human-race/
    Who needs vaccines for pop control – it’s been in the corn for 20 years.

    the epicyte gene is crazy

    Why Do Some GM Crops Contain the Epicyte Gene?

    #83450
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @madamski

    ref : ” Most people confuse themselves with their identitiy. ”

    Hold it right there, Buster. Freeze !! Take one more step you and you run the almost certain risk of becoming enlightened.

    #83451
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    A bit of history:

    Past vaccine disasters show why rushing a coronavirus vaccine now would be ‘colossally stupid’
    Sept 1 2020

    Quite the time capsule. A lot has happened in the past two years.

    P.S. I found the above googling kolya’s paraphrase quote: “if our vaccine is a bit dangerous it’s most likely because of the spike protein and if that’s the case then every other vaccine has the same problem”.

    #83452
    madamski cafone
    Participant
    #83453
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “Hold it right there, Buster. Freeze !! Take one more step you and you run the almost certain risk of becoming enlightened.”

    You again. How many times I gotta tell you to get your damn lawn offa my kids!?

    #83454
    Dr. D
    Participant

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1424946657242796034.html

    Synopsis: You’re an idiot. Trust the experts. All your evidence means nothing. Do what you’re told.

    Okaaaaayyy. Um, again, WHAT facts do we have and WHAT do we specifically think is wrong? Not given. The experts disagree widely, if we “Trust experts” which ones? Not given. Are the “experts” taking a deep breath and a heavy sigh and reading the supposed data and then discussing/educating the ignorant masses? Definitely not. Not given.

    And this would be considered acceptable for medicine? In medicine if you ask you 900 times and they don’t get it and ask again, you are required to explain again. That’s it. Sorry, thanks for playing.

    They refuse to read the data, address the data, and explain the data. That to me says you’re not an expert. In my field I can explain things from the simpest level or not at all, up to my own level if they can grasp it. One thing I don’t do is say “Shut up and eat it or you’ll get nothing, you stupid idiot-face.” …Even when we want to.

    So again, day three. WHAT facts? WHAT info? WHAT is wrong with the facts given by the VP of Pfizer and the duly hired auditors of the State of Arizona? ‘Cause, buddy: they’re the experts. You’re supposed to blindly believe THEM, just as you argue in your own article. Why don’t you believe the hired, licensed doctors and the hired, licensed auditors? Seems strange.

    #83455
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    A personal emotional dynamic: I find it increasingly easy to not care about folks who insist that a lying gov/corp complex, well known at be a lying gov/corp complex, is more honest than me.

    “What do you know?’

    ‘I know you’re quoting a brain dead idiot (Biden).’

    Not that this conversation happened. But it sums up the beginning of personal social anomie in my soul.

    I don’t even have a lifeboat yet, and maybe never will. We don’t have money to spare around here. Nonetheless, I’m developing a stern, even cruel attitude: Why the fuck should I let you in my lifewboat? Get your hands off that gunwale or I’ll break it.

    I see this dynamic becoming a crucial aspect of all this. Families broken apart. BUsiness partnerships shattered. The Parable of the Grasshopper and the Ants writ large.

    #83456

    The mask conveniently hides the visible symptoms of illness- the mouth-breathing, the runny nose.

    From personal experience: when I heard that glyphosate was used to “crisp” wheat and oats (and, boy, is it ever noticeable in the fields), I restricted my intake of baked goods and lost 20 pounds. Bread is now a treat (if I can find “organic”). Glyphosate interferes with gut bacteria (the shikimate pathway). Glyphosate is a poison and produces worse-than-useless “food”. It also contributes to sterilization of the soil. It began its life as an antibiotic, btw.

    They haven’t squeezed the oldsters out of their tiny fortunes yet- so of course they have to institutionalize them and make it easier to kill them en masse. Those fully-owned houses won’t end up in a rental portfolio, otherwise.

    One sure way to tell the good guys from the bad guys is that the bad guys use torture.

    #83457
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    God ( Prime Cause, Yahwew, Allah, Awareness, the Great Spirit . . . the name of your choice) got bored and yearned for companionship. It must be lonely at the top, ya know ?

    It started off simply enough. A push here, a pull there, something to look at, and then before you know it particles, atoms, spacetime and eventually life and intelligence. These things (and us) are all God’s sock puppets , with which he talks to himself, and the patterns they make produce a myriad of unpredicted consequence that not even omniscience could have imagined in advance. Very entertaining. And unlikely to stop any time soon, regardless of current events.

    So is the above “phylosophic” rambling off topic ?

    Not really.

    Nevertheless, I apologize, and will refrain as hard as I can in future posts. It was Madamski’s post that set me off, so it’s his fault anyway.

    #83458
    zerosum
    Participant

    Truth
    Look ….
    NO MONEY ….. NO VACCINE …. THE ELITIST WILL GET THE LAST TEST AND THE LAST VACCINE

    #83459
    Noirette
    Participant

    Herd immunity is not an appropriate and/or useful concept. Sars-Cov-2 is a corona virus, respiratory virus in humans (as far as we know..), and it won’t be stamped out by ‘vaxs.’ They don’t work at all, are a mega-scale commercial scam. Imho, whether ADE is having an effect, can’t be decided for now following the numbers, all of which are very dodgy, imho. It appears that now the MSM is touting that herd immunity can’t be attained because! ‘Variants’, not vaxs, anyway, and so it goes.

    Waves is ridiculous as well (concept borrowed from the ‘Spanish’ flu), the virus circulates and is affected by multiple conditions that aren’t understood or properly analysed, documented: temperature, sunlight on people, pollution, movement of ppl, personal characteristics, public health measures, treatment of patients, which either kills, is of no use, or helps.. (not to mention the peculiar – manipulated – fudged statistics that impede serious analysis at every turn!) The Swiss MSM yesterday was touting fear of a 4th wave, while CH has only had 2, the journos can’t even count to 5… 😉

    Risk-benefit analysis is a version of cost-benefit analysis, from the quasi-religious doctrinaire and prescriptive field of Economics. It shouldn’t be applied to health, doctoring, medecines, prophylaxis, which at their base are, or rest on, the personal integrity of those doing doctoring, via traditional obligations such as the Hippocratic oath, long-held principles, conventions, and for vaxs, the Nuremberg Code. All that has been pretty much swept away, bowing down to Mammon, or overlords who command.

    Flattening the Curve is also a spurious concept. The idea was to delay ppl getting ill so that the hospitals would not be submerged by a huge input of patients. So just as many ppl become ill, have severe consequences, and die, but WE prefer to spread that out, forward, on the time sheet? Taylorism and the factory line meets health care! (In fact was on its face proved to be a lie in many places as hospitals had plenty of open beds, even in critical care, see for ex. the UK.) The mandate of health-carers, the State, and the Army (where I live, to set up field hospitals in 2-3 days) is to care for the sick, no matter how, how many, etc. and do so as best as can be done.

    Immunityon its own is now a weird buzzword similar to “regeneration” in the Cosmetics Industry. Say.

    Kicking in open doors here I know, but the overall picture speaks to present Gvmts (OECD..) having been infiltrated and partly taken over by turbo-charged profit-making (some call it liberalism), via corruption, creating jockeying at the top Mafia-style, and putting out there via the MSM maid-servants whatever BS concepts sound vaguely scientific and professional to keep the public quiet, they believe. Not new of course, but more noticeable now.

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