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    George Caleb Bingham The verdict of the people 1854   • Pfizer-BioNTech Vaccine Becomes First To Win FDA’s Full Approval (USAT) • Does The FDA Th
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 24 2021]

    #85151
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Insane, ruled by lunitics, no place to flee….
    Un plug, and get alife…
    …and a pipe full…

    #85152
    John Day
    Participant

    @Bill7: We are both bicyclists ho grew up at Camp Pendelton, though we got orders to move when I was 6, and never came back. We did visit my grandparents in San Diego often, though.

    #85153
    Germ
    Participant

    “The SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant is poised to acquire complete resistance to wild-type spike vaccines”

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.22.457114v1

    🤣🤣🤣

    #85154
    Red
    Participant

    These numbers don’t make any sense to me. 0.2%/1,100,000 = 220,000 or is it 0.2% of 1 percentage point = 44,000? The next paragraph has 2790/0.01 = 279 but they have 187? It has been a very long time since my schooling years, over four decades, however what math are they using? Something from economics 101? I don’t know how to get the same results!
    From the Times of Israel:
    But early data from the Health Ministry aired by Channel 12 news Sunday evening appears to show that those who have received a third vaccine dose are highly protected against the disease. According to the data, just 0.2% of the first 1.1 million Israelis who got their booster dose have been diagnosed with COVID-19 after at least seven days passed since the shot.

    In absolute terms, the number of virus carriers who received their third dose is 2,790. Of them, just 187 (0.01%) were hospitalized and 88 (0.008%) developed serious symptoms. Fewer than 15 of them have died, with the report offering no exact number.

    #85155
    John Day
    Participant

    Blog is up. No photo today. https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/08/post-totalitarianism-and-friends.html

    Thanks for this , Cat: Covid Post-totalitarianism
    ​ ​It should be clear from the foregoing discussion that the covid regime resembles, in many respects, the post-totalitarian system described by​ Vaclav ​Havel. Regardless of “the science,” or rather because of it, the covid regime is post-totalitarian. “The science” has proven itself to be ideological. Although continually discredited—by the exaggeration of the virus’s lethality, by the suppression of known cures so as to usher in a state of emergency and the mRNA vaccines, by the underreporting of vaccine deaths and injuries, by the institution and reinstitution of failed and unscientific lockdown and masking mandates, and more—“the science” is wielded by authorities as if a matter of fact and a matter of course, just as Marxist ideology was wielded by Soviet communists. And, as under communism, even those who know the truth are compelled to live within the lie.
    ​ ​Just as the greengrocer was compelled to display signs of his loyalty under Soviet bloc communism, signs transmitting semantic content to which he was indifferent, so the covid citizen is compelled to display signs of compliance and complicity under the covid regime. The signs have included donning the mask and, increasingly, displaying the vaccine passport—to take part in society. And, as under communism, these displays are compulsory rituals.​..
    …​Rather than needing a political program, these dissidents seek community in “the continuing and cruel tension between the complex demands of that [covid] system and the aims of life, that is, the elementary need of human beings to live, to a certain extent at least, in harmony with themselves, that is, to live in a bearable way … ”
    ​ ​Yet their efforts may eventually assume a political character and may manage to create another world, and covid post-totalitarianism may be the crucible in which this other world is forged.
    https://www.michaelrectenwald.com/essays/living-in-the-age-of-covid-the-power-of-the-powerless

    ​1.4 million Israelis have received a third dose of Pfizer vaccine against alpha-COVID spike protein from January 2, 2020 sequence, yet hospitalizations and deaths are still ramping up hard in this highly vaccinated country, after looking like they would fade away in June. There’s talk of a fourth lockdown… Thnks Jeremy.
    ​ There were 669 people hospitalized with COVID who are in serious condition, as of Sunday evening. One week ago, that figure stood at 535, and a month ago, it was just 76.
    Health officials have warned that there could be as many as 2,400 seriously ill patients by the middle of next month, if case numbers continue to rise apace.
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/nearly-200-covid-deaths-reported-in-past-week-but-booster-data-raises-hopes/

    #85156
    John Day
    Participant

    Public Health England (PHE) finds that COVID new-cases are stable in the unvaccinated, but rising in the double-vaccinated, explaining all recent rises.

    Latest PHE Data Shows Vaccine Effectiveness Down to Just 15% in the Over-50s, 37% in the Under-50s. Deaths Cut by 76% in Over-50s, But Just 12% in Under-50s



    A group of demonstrators occupied the entrance of the headquarters of ITV News and Channel 4 News in London, claiming that the media are misinforming people about vaccines and the pandemic.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/demonstrators-occupy-london-news-headquarters-over-pandemic-coverage

    NYC Orders 150,000 Teachers & School Staff To Either Get Vaccinated Or Find A New Job; NJ Orders Jabs For State Workers
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nyc-orders-150000-teachers-school-staff-either-get-vaccinated-or-find-new-job

    ​ The vaccine mandate was officially announced as policy today at my clinic. Everyone is required to be fully vaccinated by November 1, which means on track by early October, with a first jab. I don’t know how the month of October will be interpreted. That was not spelled out.
    This is pretty lenient. The pro-vaccine narrative could be as abandoned as Afghan interpreters and Americans in Kabul by November.​
    We shall see. My moral choice remains clear. Now I have to do as much good-doctoring as I can fit in each precious day.

    ​Will the “Leathernecks” take the shot?
    Pentagon To Mandate Covid Vaccine For All Service Members
    Except, around one-third of US service members have refused the jab. In July, between 60% and 70% of personnel were fully vaccinated – with the Navy being the most vaccinated and the Marines being the least…
    ​https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/pentagon-mandate-covid-vaccine-all-service-members-one-third-refuse-jab

    #85158
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    This moment in world history brings to mind “unable to see the forest for the trees”

    We are looking at the minute details of the “vaccine” and virus and seeing those in power doing everything possible to get the population to volunteer to submit to the jab which appears to establish the pathway into slavery (unknowingly to those getting the jab). Apparently the financial system is being transformed (by those that own everything).

    Simply amazing. Genius even.

    Please refer to

    Documentary

    Full Interviews

    The
    Catherine Austin Fitts
    Geopolitical and Financial Analyst, Solarireport.com.
    interview is revealing

    #85159
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Proud Boys Leader Sentenced to More than 5 Months for Burning Black Lives Matter Banner”

    I guess we know which flag the U.S. now has allegiance to. Couldn’t be simpler.

    Learned today that Biden was feverishly flying military hardware INTO Afghanistan, so he could abandon it to China. No joke. Couple Bil $$$. And as you’re required to blow it up rather than let it fall into enemy hands, couple hundred thousand cases of court martial and potential treason too.

    Still: was it evacuate citizens, THEN military, THEN close the airport, or the other way around? Psaki says it couldn’t have gone better and there are NO U.S. citizens in Kabul. Nope. Surely she jests, since they gave blank U.S. visas to anyone in Afghanistan with a b&w copy machine. They’re all citizens now and we aren’t. Roger-dodger. Loud and clear.

    “CDC adds 6 more places to ‘very high’ risk Covid travel list”

    Mexico and Kabul are not on that list, can fly anywhere, I’m paying for it, no testing required. See? It’s no wonder I’m safer in Calcutta than the most vaccinated state in the union. And also Israel, U.K., Seychelles, and Gibraltar. Since I’m paying, I can also fly anywhere, no vax or testing required. Hahahahaha! Nope! Not on your life. You’re a citizen: get in your hole! When I want your opinion I’ll beat it out of you. In #OppositeLand, citizens of a country have no rights, citizens of every OTHER country, non-citizens do. This has been going on so long, An-Caps like Doug Casey have made it a principle of living and investing: live free anywhere but your nation of citizenship.

    So what’s today’s list of totally vaccinated people who are in hospitals with Covid? Too long to list but includes Mr. Jackson and Melissa Hart. Yup. Vaccines totally work! Except for the part where you still totally get it, and still totally transmit it. Maybe 5x better. I mean, they work except at 0%, like Iceland says. 0%, 100%, who can tell the difference really? Math, numbers, bored already.

    “So the FDA has “fully approved” the Pfizer jab for Covid. In doing so standing alone they have broken the law and thus have irrevocably destroyed their authority and any reason for anyone to ever do anything based on them ever again.”

    Yay! So can we get rid of another Derp State power center and hand that power back to the people too? Yes we can because without CONfidence, we’ll have to. Considering a more or less endless string of ten-thousnad deaths, billion dollar fines, and suppression of many, many cures, it would do a world of good.

    “I do not expect a staffing shortage,” Porter said.”

    He says after they already have/caused a staffing shortage in hospitals, there are intermittent food shortfalls from staff shortages in meat, etc, but no staff shortage in schools. Right. If there is can we fire you and fine you in court for every child that doesn’t learn each day? Thanks. Wait: no consequences, no “or else”? So you can just say anything you like, do everything that fails, and WE are the ones who pay? What could possibly go wrong with a whole class of humans that are insulated from all consequences? We, their human slaves, having no rights while they fly tax-free private jets with no quarantine to the maskless French Laundry, must make up the shortfall.

    ““You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.” Now they’ve adopted a corollary: you never want a crisis to end. So they are prolonging the national misery instead of easing it, which could be done with a few simple strategies. Explain to the public that the virus will never disappear but is no longer a mortal threat to the vast majority of Americans. Encourage the minority still at risk to get vaccinated by honestly discussing who is in jeopardy and what scientists have learned about infections. Promote treatments proven to prevent infection and speed recovery while avoiding unproven treatments and mandates that cause collateral damage and generate mistrust.”

    Sounds pretty straightforward. So why can’t we get anywhere near that? Why work so tirelessly to break trust and cooperation?

    Uh, on purpose? I can’t really think of any other reason to do illogical, unworkable things that are certain to work less well and have violent backlash.

    Tired of the discussion. Need to play minesweeper somewhere for the next 3-6 months as I know how this ends. Not interested.

    #85161

    This is starting to look a bit scary.

    israelboost

    #85162
    deflationista
    Participant

    Authorities say Proud Boys members stole the banner that read #BLACKLIVESMATTER from the Asbury United Methodist Church on Dec. 12 and then set it ablaze using lighter fluid and lighters. Tarrio posted a picture of himself holding an unlit lighter to his Parler account and admitted days later in an interview with The Washington Post that he joined in the burning of the banner.

    Rev. Dr. Ianther Mills, senior pastor of the church, told the judge it was an “act of intimidation and racism” that caused “immeasurable and possibly irreparable harm” on the community.

    “His careless act of violence and hatred, targeted at a congregation of individuals with a lived history of social and racial injustice, had the presumably desired effect,” she said. “Asbury was forced to reckon with the very tangible evidence that we continue to live in a world where people radicalize hate based upon race and skin color.

    “When police pulled Tarrio over on Jan. 4 on the warrant for vandalizing the sign, officers found two unloaded magazines emblazoned with the Proud Boys logo in his bag. Tarrio said, according to a police report, that he sells the clips and the ones he was carrying were purchased by a customer.

    Tarrio pleaded guilty last month to destruction of property and attempted possession of a large-capacity ammunition feeding device.

    It was revealed in court records recently that Tarrio had worked undercover and cooperated with investigators after he was accused of fraud in 2012. After Tarrio’s 2012 indictment for participating in a scheme involving the resale of diabetic test strips, he helped the government prosecute more than a dozen other people, the records show.

    #85163

    That Israel graph above (OWID doesn’t say it’s Israel anywhere in the graph, but it’s the only booster nation) becomes even stranger when reading this in the Guardian:

    Israeli officials and scientists have reported seeing infections fall after people began receiving a third vaccine shot. After one of the world’s most successful vaccine rollouts, Israel saw a sharp increase in cases fuelled by the fast-spreading Delta variant. It began a program to deliver a third shot at the end of July, starting with the over-60s.

    On Thursday, it expanded eligibility to 40-year-olds and up whose second dose was given at least five months prior, saying the age may drop further. In the past 10 days, the pandemic is abating among the first age group, more than a million of whom have received a third vaccine dose, according to Israeli health ministry data and scientists interviewed by Reuters.

    You tell me.

    #85164
    absolute galore
    Participant

    From NYT front page:

    The Morning: This is why the F.D.A.’s full approval of the Pfizer vaccine took so long.

    I realize it has been many years since the NYT printed much of anything that was not straight out propaganda of some type, but it’s still kind of a shock that they use headlines that are so f-ing misleading. This did not “take so long” it was the biggest rush job in history–even Pfizer’s own timeline said spring of 23 before “studies” (with no more placebo group!!) were “completed.” And I don’t even care if the info is in the article.

    As others have commented, what is so striking is that the reactions around the world are so similar.

    The second half of Carlson’s video talks about surreal stuff happening in New Zealand and Australia. Nuts.
    https://video.foxnews.com/v/6269226001001#sp=show-clips

    My son’s birthday is in mid-November and his mother wants him vaccinated that day. In NYS, although I have “joint custody” and he lives with me a few days every week, I only have “input” into medical or schooling decisions, mother has ultimate say. Really, really upsetting. I’ve talked to him a little recently about why I am not getting vaccinated (he’s worried about me) but I need to walk a fine line. I don’t want him to be overly anxious if he must get the shot.

    #85165
    zerosum
    Participant

    Who is listening to TAE
    “full approval”
    violation of the law as well, but nobody cares.

    Vaccinated individuals are blasting out concentrated viral explosions into their communities and fueling new COVID surges. Vaccinated healthcare workers are almost certainly infecting their coworkers and patients, causing horrendous collateral damage. Continued vaccination will only make this problem worse, particularly among frontline doctors and nurses workers who are caring for vulnerable patients. Health systems should drop vaccine mandates immediately, take stock of COVID-19 recovered workers who are robustly immune to Delta and consider the ramifications of their current vaccinated healthcare workers as potential threats to high risk patients and coworkers.

    A preprint paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet

    Peter A. McCullough, M.D., MPH
    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733
    Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 Delta Variant Among Vaccinated Healthcare Workers, Vietnam
    31 Pages Posted: 10 Aug 2021

    While moderating the symptoms of infection, the jab allows vaccinated individuals to carry unusually high viral loads without becoming ill at first, potentially transforming them into presymptomatic superspreaders.

    This phenomenon may be the source of the shocking post-vaccination surges in heavily vaccinated populations globally.
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    “Waning immunity”
    vaccine efficacy wanes over time
    it can dramatically change the risk-benefit calculus.
    Israel says vaccine efficacy has dropped to 39%.
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    this “full approval” voids all other vaccine EUAs for Covid-19. That is, under the law the Moderna and J&J instantly became illegal to offer or use within the United States.
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    Got infected by Delta. There is exactly zero medical benefit I can derive from the jabs.
    Sterile immune to the virus as a result of said infection and recovery.
    ——
    Good grief, the entire healthcare system is operating on a massive hive mindset where science, and the scientific method, is thrown out the window in favor of ideological outcomes and self-fulfilling prophecies. The fact that the researchers and doctors, apparently under the payroll of the pharmaceutical companies that have a vested financial interest in the vaccine outcome, lost the control group on purpose is alarming. Of course, Big Pharma will promote the vaccine as beneficial, and the controlled media will promote that message with a complete disconnect from the clinical trial details, and the FDA will grant approval on results that were intentionally constructed to produce only one outcome.
    ———–

    With Pfizer Likely to Get FDA Approval Monday It’s Worth Remembering Pfizer and Moderna Lost The Clinical Trial Control Group Testing Vaccine Efficacy and Safety

    Ultimately, the natural immunity process will be of greater overall benefit than vaccinations which will require continual boosters to deal with the ever-evolving variants (a similar approach to dealing with reoccurring and evolving flu strains). Dr. Malone provided support for his position with concurrence from the leading U.K. Vaccinologist in Great Britain, Sir Andrew Pollard (SHORT VIDEO):
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    • Pentagon To Mandate Covid-19 Vaccinations For All Military Personnel (RT)
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    #85166
    expatkiwi
    Participant

    So, I live in France and I ordered IVM and Azithromycin from our friend over at Kachhela but it’s been a bust. It’s been stuck in customs for over a month now. At first it showed as being held for ‘missing invoice/illegal shipment’. Finally I got in touch (sort of) with a human who told me that it was being held as a counterfait. Sounds like major BS to me.

    #85167
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Thanks again TAE wonderful info. The Josh Mittledorf article on statistical fraud has a few very interesting comments that challenge my views a little (using numbers and math – Deflationista).

    #85169

    FDA2027

    #85170
    a kullervo
    Participant

    The steps towards eternal life:
    1st. Take the jab
    2nd. Kill the anti-vaxxers

    Ready or not, living in interesting times is our curse/predicament… may the ones who are going to live forever enjoy the ashes…

    #85171
    zerosum
    Participant

    Top of all social/economic structures

    Influencers
    Enforcers
    Enablers
    Motivators

    A government is a system of order for a nation, state, or another political unit. A government is responsible for creating and enforcing the rules of a society, defense, foreign affairs, the economy, and public services.

    #85172
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Today’s episode of “Political Ironies: Everything they say is a lie” is the week’s iconic photo of the Saigon embassy, re-cycled in Kabul with pre-staged messages from Ol’ Joe that “this is not Saigon.”

    PostIt
    https://nypost.com/2019/04/23/new-book-reveals-truth-behind-this-famed-fall-of-saigon-photo/

    Except for one leeetle thing: That is not the American military, that’s not the Embassy, and that’s not the last flight from Saigon. Other than that, all good! Totally true.

    So, think about THAT when you think about the new totally staged, psyop meme-fest out of Kabul. Totally true? Or just as false?

    Who’s the audience here? Who’s the director? What’s the message, the product being sold? All heil America and our main product: Bulls–t.

    #85173
    a kullervo
    Participant

    @deflationista

    Nice try, but once a fool, always a fool.

    #85174
    Germ
    Participant

    Worth a listen.

    Dr. ANDREW BOSTOM ON MATT ALLEN ON PFIZER FDA ‘APPROVAL’

    #85175
    teri
    Participant

    Shit’s fucked up and shit.

    #85176
    Germ
    Participant

    @ expatkiwi

    I just received an order of Melatonin from Kachhela in the UK.

    So far, so good.

    Now awaiting another multi-product order.
    Fingers crossed.

    #85177
    zerosum
    Participant

    FDA approval is the Gold Standard – Biden
    (Proof not needed)

    #85178
    zerosum
    Participant

    Extending Aug 31 deadline
    YES
    1. Remove local opposition to Taliban rulers
    2. Remove useless mouth to feed
    3. Donate more armament to Taliban
    4. Evacuation of military
    5. Release gold and oversea bank accounts
    6. Many aid workers do not want to stop their efforts to help the people and will become hostages
    7. Specialist needed to stay and operate infrastructures (airports, essential services)

    #85179
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Vax mandates are a cruel stick to beat people with by Carol Markowicz writing in the New York Post

    Twitter cheers when an unvaxxed conservative dies and uses that fact against the right. When three Broward County, Fla., teachers died on the same day, their deaths were cited to attack Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) for refusing to mandate masks in schools. Rarely mentioned in news stories is that the school had not yet opened.

    .

    #85180
    absolute galore
    Participant

    From Reuters:

    Scientists said booster shots are having an impact on infections, but other factors are likely contributing to the decline as well.

    “The numbers are still very high but what has changed is that the very high increase in the rate of infections and severe cases has diminished, as has the pace at which the pandemic is spreading,” said Eran Segal, data scientist at the Weizmann Institute of Science and an adviser to the government.

    “This is likely due to the third booster shots, an uptake in people taking the first dose and the high number of people infected per week, possibly up to 100,000, who now have natural immunity,” Segal said.

    According to Doron Gazit, a member of the Hebrew University’s COVID-19 expert team which advises government, the rise in cases of severely ill vaccinated people in the 60 and older group has been steadily slowing to a halt in the last 10 days.

    “We attribute this to the booster shots and to more cautious behaviour recently,” Gazit said.

    More than half of those over 60 have received a third jab, according to the Health ministry.

    The rate of new severe cases among unvaccinated patients 70 and older is now seven times that of vaccinated patients, and the gap will continue to grow as long as infections rise, according to Gazit. Among those over 50, that gap is four-fold.

    “We are optimistic, but very cautious,” Israeli Health Minister Nitzan Horowitz told public broadcaster Kan on Sunday. “It gives us more time, slows the spread and we’re moving away from lockdown.”

    But even if the boosters are slowing the pandemic’s pace, it is unlikely to fend Delta off entirely.

    Dvir Aran, biomedical data scientist at Technion – Israel’s Institute of Technology, said that while cases are retreating, other measures are needed alongside boosters to stop the pandemic. “It will take a long time until enough people get a third dose and until then thousands more people will getting seriously ill.”

    And this subhead is interesting: BOOSTER VS LOCKDOWN
    So, you can take the booster or we impose lockdown. You decide. (And is your neighbor behaving?)

    Full article: Israel’s COVID-19 vaccine boosters show signs of taming Delta

    #85182
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Well, according to today’s links on RealClearPolitics.com, both CNN and USA Today are calling for employers to mandate the Clot Shot. I find myself a lot more receptive this morning to the idea that the 2020 Election was stolen from Donald Trump, because if that had in fact happened, then of course for-realz-yo enemies of the people of this country like CNN and USA Today would cover it up.

    #85183

    Wait, Dr. Robinson et al, could you guys please listen to Dr. Richard Urso, who says here in the first few minutes that IVM doesn’t work (but he still keeps using it), and he has a better protocol?! I have no time right now.

    #85184
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    “One third has said they won’t comply. Maybe this is where the real fight will happen.”

    I was really young when the Vietnam War ended, but wasn’t officers getting fragged something that happened right before the decision was made? Hmmm…..

    #85185
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Bill Maher comes out against forced vaccination. Is that like a fragging moment?

    #85186
    deflationista
    Participant

    @a kullervo:

    Oh yes. Posting the truth is… problematic for you? Dude steals a BLM flag from a black church. He burns it. He then pleads guilty to it all. He gets punished. And the analysis and insinuation here is that these facts don’t matter, and we should just look at it as the government having more allegiance to BLM flags than to the US flag. There is always a little bit of context left out of the discussions here.

    #85187

    Let’s clone Fauci three more times
    To ensure that he will dwell
    In the fourth, the seventh, eighth and ninth
    Of the rings in Dante’s hell.

    I’m open to other ring suggestions as well- heresy, gluttony…

    #85188

    There is always a little bit of context left out of the discussions here.

    Like he worked for the FBI and they incited the entire non-show. Left out.

    #85189
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Pfizer is on it, no worries. Pfizer prez:

    “Every time that the variant appears in the world, our scientists are getting their hands around it,” Bourla told FOX News’ America’s Newsroom cohosts. “They are researching to see if this variant can escape the protection of our vaccine. We haven’t identified any yet but we believe that it is likely that one day, one of them will emerge.”

    Pfizer CEO says COVID-19 vaccine-resistant variant likely to emergeThe company has not yet found a variant escaping protection of the vaccine, CEO Albert Bourla said

    #85190
    absolute galore
    Participant

    If someone stole a Put the Christ back in Christmas banner from a Catholic church and burned it, would they get 5 months in jail for it? Or is the BLM burning carrying some political weight? I’m thinking a fine and community service would cover something like this. Maybe an anger management class or two? I’m genuinely curious, it seems like an unusually harsh punishment. What kinds of jail sentences were meted out during the rioting in Portland, etc? I believe certain property was damaged and burned. Any attempts to find out who did it and bring them to justice?

    #85191

    The virus has 30 proteins. The vaccine tackles 1. Natural immunity tackles all 30. Place your bets, gents and gals.

    #85192
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    McCullough and study preprint
    251 times the viral load — but it appears all study participants were vaccinated, so it is a comparison of delta and prior to delta, not vaxxed vs. unvaxxed. And vaccine was astra Zeneca, so in casual conversation it could be pointed out that it may not be the same in US where mostly mRNA vaccines were used.

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    Re the delta variant aka vaccine side effects

    Indications are that there is a delta variant. Totally possible that delta is being used to shield us from seeing a class of vaccine reactions…such obfuscation is really easy when there are two huge variables (virus, vaccine,) about we still have such time limited data.

    I’ve been informed of a second person at my church with long Covid. She is younger than I by a little…and has some mysterious illness that caused her to quit her job a few years ago. (I didn’t inquire as to the nature of the illness.). Still, it seems to indicate that long Covid may be associated with comorbidities. But, I can’t help but wonder whether or not these two women were vaccinated, and the vaccination date relative to the long Covid.

    I have an aunt who is schizophrenic and institutionalized. They had been struggling the last few years to get her meds balanced. Basically, too much and she has hand tremors, too little she is paranoid and delusional. At the start of the year she was finally stable: little to no tremors, not paranoid, not delusional. In the spring she had her two Covid jabs. In the spring the tremors started back up again, worse than ever before. She cannot walk because she can’t keep her balance. I’ve asked my mother to get the dates of onset and vaccination from the institution, which she has not yet done. The institution believes that the new problems are because of problems with the medicine. I suspect that it is vaccine injury.

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    @ John Day
    Nice blog photo yesterday and very nice squash haul. 🙂
    What are the large, tall, broad leaf plants in your squash patch? I’m not familiar with them.

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    The proud boys leader will be treated like a hero by his crew for enduring punishment that seems outsized to the crime (burning stolen cloth.) This “justice” will be used to recruit many more to their cause. A system of restorative justice would have a better chance at addressing the underlying problems. What is (likely) really going on is that the proud boys members have legitimate grievances that are being scape goated onto folks of differing skin color. The proud boys need to learn that the people with different skin color are not the underlying cause of their grievances, they need to see the individual humanity of those with different skin color so that they feel their common humanity — and that both groups are actually dealing with the same underlying problems.

    Oh, oops. But then TPTB couldn’t use the proud boys and BLM folks to distract and divide the nation. Can’t have that! Best to just throw the proud boys leader in jail. And, better to have the proud boy guns pointed at darker skinned folks than at “the 1%.”

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    @ absolute galore
    Regarding your coparent having final say for medical decisions — I am SO sorry!
    You can try to point out that although it has “approval” the clinical trials are not over, we don’t know long term effects, (Myo/pericarditis study not ending till 2025!).
    Get him tested for antibodies & t-detect — not sure how your parenting agreement is worded, but mine (I have joint legal, none with final say) says that if other parents consent is unreasonably withheld for medical stuff I can go ahead and do it if I pay on my own. Now…I wouldn’t push it for something truly dangerous — but it is just blood tests! Even without final say you may be able to get those done over her objection. If he shows immunity, suggest that this makes vaccination more dangerous and/or irrelevant.
    Argue that at age 16 he is not at risk — why not just wait two more years and let HIM make the decision and shoulder the consequences. (Or is he turning 12?)
    Point out that if he becomes disabled that both of you, the parents, will be financially liable for his care for the rest of your lives. (Think: 12 year old girl paralyzed in Pfizer trial.). Point out that because of this vaccination is more than just a medical decision, it is a potential long-term financial burden that she is potentially imposing upon you. If he is turning 12, the vaccine does not have approval, and there will likely be no payout from the federal vaccine injury fund — and no recourse to sue Pfizer. Suggest that if she insist on vaccination that she agree to bear the sole financial responsibility for his needs once he is 18 should he be incapacitated by the vaccine.
    You can likely file for mediation. Do it days before his birthday, to delay the vaccination.
    If all of this fails, arrange it so that he is vaccinated in a time period where you can prophylax and follow up vaccination with ivermectin to (hopefully) blunt the ability of the damned spike protein to damage his body. Start giving him vitamins that look like ivermectin pills so you can substitute when the time comes, or stick it in his orange juice. (Try it yourself, find a way to mask the taste.)

    Good luck. I’m trying to plan for what to do when my boys turn 16 next year should the HS mandate vaccination…

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    deflationista
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    Riiiight, Raul. I left that out, didn’t I?

    Oh….. actually I didn’t:

    It was revealed in court records recently that Tarrio had worked undercover and cooperated with investigators after he was accused of fraud in 2012. After Tarrio’s 2012 indictment for participating in a scheme involving the resale of diabetic test strips, he helped the government prosecute more than a dozen other people, the records show.

    But somebody else did.

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