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    Caravaggio Adoration of the Shepherds 1609   • Trump Nominates Kash Patel For FBI Director (ZH) • Pam Bondi To Visit Capitol Hill Next Week, Join
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle December 1 2024]

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    Red
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    “Mass desertion is “starving” the Ukrainian Army and “crippling” Kiev’s battleplans, as troops flee in their tens of thousands,”
    Sure they are, what about the hundreds of thousands that have already been killed? I would think that is a bit of a drain as well.

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    Oroboros
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    #175715
    Oroboros
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    Politics is downstream from Culture, not the other way around

    Ritual Humiliation

    An entire generation of Snowflakes crushed by Trump Derangement Syndrome®

    Well played sir, well played

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    Yep, sure does

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    Oroboros
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    #175717
    Oroboros
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    Family Formation in Duh’merica

    Be like….

    Cultural Disintegration

    Hitting Rock Bottom©

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    Cause he married. this Gem….

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    #175718
    Oroboros
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    The Way Way Way Opposite End of Woke Women

    In case you were wondering…..

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    #175719
    Dr. D
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    https://imgur.com/gallery/financial-advice-millennials-j3Y5qkJ

    Staring with: “You’ll never own a home. Bwahahahaha!”

    “Canadian Town Fined And Mayor Sent For Compulsory Education After Failing To Hoist Pride Flag
    One problem is that the town of fewer than 2000 inhabitants does not have a flagpole…”

    Was this the “Them”, the only “They” you said we had to worship and take classes from? You know, the “They” who runs and owns the world?

    Oh it is? And they are one group, put out and run by another group hiding in the shadows behind them? Welcome to our argument here. Glad you and I agree.

    What I can’t figure out is why it’s legally mandated in the first place. Like if I ask the Lithuanian flag to be flown on a flagpole they don’t have, they have to do it? Boy, I’m going to make up a LOT of hilarious meme-flags then legally force them to fly in public.

    The American Flag flies all over the nation. But that means those places are run by “Them” and not Americans. See? Logic! Flag and fines are a symbol and proof…until they conflict with the argument, then we ignore them.

    “Breaking: Trump’s FBI Director Kash Patel calls for immediate declassification of Epstein client list! Also Today Trumps New Border Czar Announced That The DOJ And DHS Will Be Targeting The NGOs And Former Federal Agency Leaders Criminally For Running The Human Trafficking!”

    Thank God voting has no effect! And that Harris is totally the same.

    Okay, no victory laps, as I’m hearing all over “If I see that stupid YMCA dance again…” yes, at THIS point? With nobody in jail? Nothing won at all yet? STFU, sit down, and grab an oar. “They” are not going to do this. Or not without us. Here you’ve got Bondi saying she’ll arrest Gaza protestors in America. The f– you will, now YOU’RE my enemy missy, stand down.

    AND there’s nothing in 1A that says you need a PERMIT (note to Republicans) to not like something while also being on a public sidewalk. That’s like UK arresting people for praying silently. No. That’s just “Summarily arresting whoever I like.” Prove I was praying. Prove I was protesting. Maybe I was just on the sidewalk.

    “Obama deployed the Brennan CIA in a regime change op to begin the Syrian Civil War that led to the rise of ISIS”

    The RISE of ISIS? WE are ISIS. Hillary was pulling our weapons out of Libya (which are trafficked around the world in rotation) barely laundering them through NATO Turkey, then giving them to the most diabolical terrorists ever. For free. Not only is there complete public evidence of this, but it’s impossible to be any other way. Unless AKs fall in the desert like Manna from Jehovah, AND our satellites ALSO can’t see it in the open desert with mile-long convoys of oil trucks.

    Same with today in Syria. So 1,000 new fighters popped out of the brown earth like creatures in “The Mummy”? They popped up also fully armed, trucked, and with worldwide satellite data? And they popped up the day of the Israeli ceasefire, and also from NATO’s Turkey. Uh-huh.

    So if you’re not going to arrest about 90 people for 2013, then can you at least point the EXACT SAME g– d—d spotlight on today so we can prevent it the new same thing this week? You know: mass murder. Undeclared, illegal wars of aggression, applauded by the UN n’ stuff.

    Well, Sachs is playing his part, getting away with what he can. If they asked, he’d probably tell them.

    Patel has revealed that some members of Congress are connected to the Epstein list, which he promises to declassify on day one.”

    If you were worried about that “close” election. Say which Congressmen do you suspect are on that list? New guys? Or old guys? MAGA guys, or RINO guys? Democrats, or Republicans? So when it’s over the bias of seats will be what? Maybe not 2/3rd override with this trick alone, but well into safety while the enemy in disarray.

    “Bondi must be confirmed by the Senate, Musk and Ramaswamy don’t.”

    Using their tricks against them, just like being a secret society in government, denying they, “America First” exists, same as “Globalists” denied they existed since 1949. This trick is the “executive” the “7th floor” guys who don’t officially have power or position but have all the power and position. How?

    Bondi can be confirmed, but as head, she has to liaison w’ Congress and do political stuff. She appoints Gaetz as No 2 and he is NOT a confirmation position. Then just let him do whatever he wants while Bondi runs interference for him. If somehow they’re booted after 100 Scaramuccis, rinse, repeat with a new crew. Just like Trump can fire Rubio on the first day, bye Senator.

    It appears they may try this “Head” + “Number two” strategy all over.

    “• A Top Priority for DOGE: Decentralizing the Federal Government (AmG)

    Well, gee, the location differential in D.C. is high as cost of living. The hourly rate of the same person in Kansas and Tulsa is way lower. 30% savings right there. 30% of $36 Trillion equals….

    “we ended up buying a house 50 miles from DC with a roundtrip commute of 2.5 to 3 hours per day.”

    Go Green! No, the point here is WHYYYYY did the prices rise in D.C.? They fell in Gary, Indiana. Because the FIRE HOSE OF FREE MONEY is pointed at NYC, and as the power slowly shifted, now mostly towards the Federal Government. Printing money and handing it to my friends is the whole economy now.

    Whyyyyyyy are you making Ayn Rand right??? This is like Atlas Shrugged, Chapter 10 Part III. Mouch finally gets the upper hand on the sellout Capitalists, then robs and saps all them, folds them into a oppressive fascist, socialist system to their terror and chagrin. THAT is when NYC cantillion money printing moves from the docks…to Westchester…then even leaves Manhattan and Long Island altogether and points mostly at D.C. Dips—ts. That was 1957. Too soon? Wasn’t well known enough? Hahahahaha! They all said: what an -ss! That’ll never happen! Detroit will never collapse and be acres of brushland where people raise rabbits in hutches to survive! (That was Flint, MI in 1989, “Roger and Me” a GENERATION go. But “Reality exists” we don’t do that.)

    Since we now only have two classes: Inside the “Party” and Outside the “Party”, Party members of Politboro or not, we only have two economies: Overpriced or collapsed and raising rabbits for meat in your living room. …But Ayn Rand’s still wrong and stupid, ‘natch. Government is good and I have a solution: More Government! More PMCs!

    “Well, the incoming president will employ that same broad, sweeping approach to weeding out the most unproductive and recalcitrant employees among the federal government”

    You’re right: we need a transgender shibboleth to sort them out by loyalty as well! Maybe jsut hair color? If Blue then?

    “policy-determining, policy-making or policy-advocating character.”

    Definitely. Totally true and legal. Evil is as evil does. If you want to “Make S—t Up” and invent laws instead of just enacting the will of Congress, you are by very definition, a “Policy-making” guy. Like ALL of them.

    “Despite setting a risky precedent that could backfire on Republicans in the years ahead,”

    Wondering how. If the government is 1/10th the size, then that’s a win. You can’t trample a people and extract them without a government to trample and extract with. This is the fundamental difference between the parties, messy as it is. And for the thousandth time, why Trump, or Republicans cannot be “Fascist” or “Dictators”: they are going to inform on, round people up, sort them on cars, how? With no government? When all the people have 1A rights to speak and organize, and loose 2A gun rights to shoot back? Uh, stupid on its face.

    “She has agreed to stop Migration through Mexico, and into the United States, effectively closing our Southern Border.”

    Ohhhh, so Mexico CANNNNN do this. Wow. So they weren’t doing it before for why? Because they like having a million Chinese, Central Asians, Africans, tromping through for why? They like the fentanyl trafficking because it makes all their cartels so much weaker? GTFO.

    “Trying to save the dollar. Too late.
    • Trump Threatens BRICS (RT)

    Good. Powell already said there’s room for many currencies. That is, no US$ World Reserve currency since it destroys you. They are going hard on BTC but especially XRP, which isn’t a “Crypto” per se, it’s a banking ledger. Multi-polar world, multi-polar currencies.

    “Conservative CNN commentator Scott Jennings confirmed Fridayt that he is joining the editorial board of the Los Angeles Times,”

    That means he’s as Conservative as RFK – a Democrat, Tulsi – a Democrat, Elon – a Democrat, and Trump – a Democrat. That is, they’re still Faaaaaaaar to the left of Bill Clinton. That Hillary clip on Immigration “Lock them up!!!” is making the rounds again. “Close those borders!!!!” Ol’ Billary said. Yeah, that was like 1999. But now they’re Hitler for saying that. Oh wait, they’re the resistance for saying that, AND locking up more Black men than all nations combined.

    Anyway, point being, I’m not sure you can FIND a “Conservative” anymore. Overton is so far Left – meaning they won – that the furthest Right, like Catturd or somebody, is in the outer left fringes under Eisenhower.

    “• Mass Desertions Crippling Ukrainian Army – AP (RT)

    I was wondering what it would take. But: rumors. Okay, they feed these guys the “No danger” pills that made them uncaring of wandering into minefields, but you think they don’t have a “Obedience enhancer” and a “Psychopath” pill? Like they would feed to Israeli snipers all career long? Of course you still pick them from their innate born characteristics, but you’d want to help that along, right?

    You’d have to be Craaaaaaazzzzzzyyyy to think such things don’t exist. Hey what were those pills Saudi (??) was small-plane flying in to ISIS? Psychopath Amphetamines or something?

    “As far as the production of relevant missile systems and relevant equipment is concerned, Russia has 10 times more of them than the combined output of all NATO countries..”
    “Oh, the wonders chips from dishwashers are able to unleash.”

    And the golf carts!

    Point I would add is, Russia is now furiously hunting the ATACMs launchers and claim they erased FIVE. Yikes. They don’t grow on trees as we haven’t made them since the 90s? I don’t have time to research everything, help me out.

    “broad scope of this type of research and its political as well as strategic effect. Projects like this completely redefine the criteria of democracy, of political participation of free will, of the definition of being human or not. You don’t put a man like Musk in government by pure chance.”

    Yup. Reminds me of a quote I can’t clip from AntMan: “This isn’t some kind of stupid suit! (Iron Man) We’re talking about altering the fundamental nature of reality here!” That’s what all-drone armies even would do, to say nothing of Transhumanism he’s on the edge of.

    Problem? If you’re a “Natural” an Amish Luddite, learning things from books, or even with an ink pen, then yes, you have some advantages being pure. But in terms of war, how about seeing UV, or in the dark, having transplanted eagle eyes, and lifting 500 pounds with your mecha-arm? Are your pure blood, pure mind slate tablet healthy chop-wood kids ready for that? And if they do that, but then they are all locked into a WORLDWIDE mega-machine, as how do you get PARTS for your malfunctioning mecha-arm unless you do hit jobs for the Tyrell Umbrella Corporation? You’re now a permanent tech-slave. Or you can be Luddite and a slave TO the slaves of Weyland-Yutani Corporation? Any Better?

    You’re unleashing things you don’t understand, as humans do. Then being eaten and destroyed by them, even as their master. Remember, the MONSTER isn’t called Frankenstein, that’s his CREATOR. Since 1818. (The Monster is called “Adam”) Frankenstein is KILLED by his creation, his monster, in the far north, or at least as far as we understand.

    “We owe a huge debt to Science! …For solving all the problems that were created by Science.” — Jon Stewart.
    …About Covid, by the way.

    So it doesn’t matter if Elon or Oppenheimer or Hank Pym is a GOOD guy: if he creates Pym particles that dissolve all reality as we know it SOMEBODY is going to get a hold of them. And make them into a bomb. Doesn’t matter where, doesn’t matter when. Stop.

    This is also immediately what they wanted, two seconds after they saw Iron Man: Now I demand you give everything you know to the U.S. Army, so we can pull more s—t in F-stan like you just escaped.


    And this one, Congressman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onNN-C9Icso

    So I DEFINITELY want Congress owning all this tech, this power, I mean:
    “John Bolton: ‘When Has The Government Ever Lied About Attacks On Ships In A Gulf Somewhere Just To Provoke War?’” –BBee, 2019.

    Nahhhh.

    “This week the buffoonish former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson openly admitted that the conflict in Ukraine was a proxy war against Russia.”

    I mean, yes, amazing. 1) He told the truth and didn’t burst into flames 2) He admitted UK and the West are the aggressors. 3) And this is therefore WWIII.

    But 4) WE ALL KNOW THIS. Why do we always have to wait for an “Authority’ an “Official” to tell us what we all already know? Okay then, moving on…

    “acting as the most pathetic surrogates for U.S.-led imperialism.”

    Really? What did “We” get out of it? Better rabbit hutches and free machetes for inner Detroit? ‘Cause what I see is, if you “get” Russia, it will be divided up for EUROPE. Their gas will flow for EUROPE.

    “Piantedosi has announced the deployment of 600 additional police officers to Milan,”

    And this will do what? If they can’t deport them? They’re not citizens, then they’re tourists. If I go there, rob a bank, use the money to buy a van and rape a girl, you just like that sort of thing? I can stay? No? Why is my being there as an American in any way different from landing from Cote d’Ivorie?

    Same here. In honor of Thanksgiving and in the spirit of unity, I am hereby adopting the Woke, Ultra-Woke view on it: How dare these colonists and invaders land in our nation, take over our land, not ask us, wreck our original, majestic culture, until they are are so many they rob us, shoot us, go to war and push us out of our own country, leaving only a few of us on Reservations? If only the Patuxet Indians had a BORDER, and SHOT every guy who tried to enter, the nation would be safe and ours today!

    Okay, Woke people: sold! You’re totally right about Thanksgiving and drew all the right conclusions from it. We totally need to keep the white invaders out! By force! Shoot them in the face for pure love.

    Wait? No? Ours is the only culture in the history of the world that should NOT have borders? No Ireland for the Irish? No Sweden for the Swedish? Don’t they need a home country just like the Jews do? Will they be forced to wander the earth homeless?

    “• Joe Rogan: ‘Greatest Media Psy-Op In History’ Was Waged Against Trump (NYP)

    It’s pointed out that the very word “Psy op” would never be used in normal media. That’s “the rules”. So being able to talk about what is obvious and we all know…

    17,000 Leading Doctors Demand COVID Vaccine Ban and Call for Nuremberg 2.0 Trials”

    That’s why it’s critical Fauci go to jail, immediately. And the DoD guys who set all this, hang for treason, crimes against humanity. It sets the tone and is a MINIMUM, since about 500 doctors below him need to go too, plus about 1,000 CEOs.

    #175720
    Oroboros
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    My reaction…

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    #175721
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    War is Inevitable – Alastair Crooke, Alexander Mercouris & Glenn Diesen

    #175722
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “Thank God voting has no effect!”

    uh, it has no effect on u.s. foreign policy, er, destruction, mayhem and murder, and that’s the part WE care about.

    signed,

    the rest

    #175723
    Oroboros
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    Peak Oil, Peak Living Standards

    The Long Emergency is On.

    If “planned obsolescence” wasn’t such a dogma in industrial production, the same amount of energy could produce goods the lasted for decades instead of years.

    But that would ‘harsh the mellow’ of greedy corporations and their legions of PMC cogs.

    Trumps DOGE efficiency move addresses the decline of energy supplies in an indirect accidental way.

    I once worked on a project to save fuel by timing and managing traffic lights in Big Shities.

    Idling cars made up 15-25% of emissions which correlated to wasted fuel consumption.

    We measured how effective the timing of lights was with pollution monitors. at intersections.

    The less the pollution, the less time idling cars spent at intersection lights.

    We bench-marked intersections with no traffic and calibrated for weather effects like temperature and wind etc..

    Big oil shut it down because they wanted More gas consumption not less.

    Same for car manufacturers. They wanted to wear your car out faster to increase car sales.

    Same old short sided shit.

    Timing traffic lights and perfecting traffic management would be much easier now with computers and motion sensors than the bad old days of mechanical switches.

    And with so many people working ‘from home’ and not driving into Cubicle Factories and massive industrial manufacturing facilities, the job is not a big.

    Still, Duh’mericans aren’t that smart so decline off the Energy Peak is gonna be a Bitch.

    For instance, almond milk is sooooo….much more efficient than cows.

    D.O.G.E.

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    #175724
    Oroboros
    Participant

    War is Inevitable – Alastair Crooke

    Not sure Alastair got the memo on Oreshnik the Total Game Changer Weapons System.

    Not nuclear but packs the same punch as tactical nukes with bonus of no radiation cloud or huge hurricane wind blast wave.

    Destroy hundreds of feet deep bunkers, Faster-Than-a-Speeding-Bullet

    No defense for Oreshnik, very, very little warning, just ka-boom and All Gone before you finish your Half-Caf Latte.

    What’s not to like?

    Modern warfare is smart high tech AI driven Machines pitted against other some what smart high tech AI driven Machines.

    Which is another way of saying one Industrial Base against another Industrial Base

    Let’s bow our heads and turn to some timeless words of wisdom from the ancient past to guide us through these troubling waters….

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    #175725
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Disney to the Rescue of Duh’merica!

    High Five Bro!

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    #175726
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Another overlooked angle on Project Depopulation of Duh’merica

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    #175727
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Triggered Again…

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    #175728
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Make Duh’merica Healthy Again

    Not happenin’, just sayin’

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    #175729
    Oroboros
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    Spoken Like an Ace

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    #175730
    Oroboros
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    Pop Culture Reply:

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    #175731
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Worth a listen

    Hahahahahahaha, the Grand Old Dad of Demonrat campaigns

    “Two and a half freaking billion dollars.”

    James Carville is on the warpath against the Kamala campaign and its torching of billions in donor cash:

    “These fundraisers are burnt. The damage that the 2024 campaign has done to the Democratic brand is almost unfathomable.”

    “We’re going to audit everything. We’re going to audit the campaign.”

    “We think they raised a billion and a half dollars. Okay, we know that Future Forward, the last we saw, was $900 million, so we can assume that they got to a billion before election. That’s two and a half freaking billion dollars.”

    “Does anybody have any idea where that money? Well, I mean, I had some places I start looking.”

    https://x.com/i/status/1862894716821409990

    #175732
    Noirette
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    That photo of Biden and Zelensky on the prev. thread says a lot.

    https://theautomaticearth.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/BidenZelensky.jpg

    Biden is tall, slim, wearing dark glasses, and dressed like a W Imperialist or King, white shirt, tie, dark coat (actually the coat isn’t quite righ imho.)

    Zelensky is much smaller, chubby looking, dressed like a hoodlum or a guy on the street .. imho he was ordered to dress in this way from the start, probably was told ‘to gather sympathy from ordinary ppl’ etc. but the real aim was to solidify his status as a dumb vassal. **Handsomely** paid of course, well he is an actor, so.

    The posture emphasises the master-servant relation, Biden is in a friendly fashion touching or tapping, Z on the back, like congrats to the waiter who won the serving competition, balancing super frizzy fancy cocktails on a tray while running to serve the rich.

    Z has one arm down helpless or even close to begging shape, the other is missing altogether, ergo, he has no arms, no power.

    Unfortunately for them, the Western Imperialist Coalition (principally USuk, France, Netherlands .. Germany not, see Nord Str. 2 for ex. See for ex the founding memebers of NATO..) are in deep trouble and floundering about.

    The UKR. project has failed, though that judgement depends on what the aims were to begin with. Slavs killing Slavs is good to go at all times…but overall, from at least 1992 onwards, the efforts to ‘weaponize’ UKR against Russia have not had the hoped for results. Russia re-claiming Crimea was a terrible blow. (Note how for many years the mantra was R must give up Krim, we can’t accept such blatant agressssion, illegality, etc. but now it is no longer mentioned.)

    #175733
    userzeroid
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    The Alastair Crooke Duran video that Michael Reid posted above (‘war is inevitable’) was first posted around august/september 2024, near the time of telegram owner Durov’s arrest. That is a republished video, not from the Duran’s own channel. The original video can be located here (https://rumble. com/v5axjz1-war-in-inevitable-alastair-crooke-alexander-mercouris-and-glenn-diesen.html)

    The most recent interview with Alastair Crooke was just published today. Here it is

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    Oroboros
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    #175735
    poppie
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    I have 2 topics I would like to comment on. I do understand that I am not addressing root cause. Just trying to provide enough points to turn and look where the line goes.
    On the links, take the space before www out.

    The first is why Russia has effective products and the US doesnt. I know that the topic is bigger than Russia and US. I know the topic is bigger than just the military. I get the feeling health care is the poster child. But I will use the military to establish my comment. In the US, every product development starts from scratch. Any previous development will have been erased as legally required by contract. There is no continuous improvement. Government purpose rights are meaningless. The knowledge is lost. There are motives for this. The risk of failure is lowered since success is no longer advancing the art. Success is only doing the best you can today. And if you know the bar is lowered, you can hire more, less qualified people. The primary means to make profit is a percent of wages. So there you go. Shitty work equals more profit and justifies even more people to get the same product next time. This is all supported by an organizational conflict of interest (a crime. See https:// http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/). Industry lobbies congress to mandate the contract clause to destroy old data. Industry reciprocates by providing successful status. There are lots of details. There is lots of cooperation. I refer you to:
    https:// http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g6skWqpWWY

    The second topic extends from the first. All of Russias new missiles have a few fundamentals in common. They all use heat shields. Making heat shields better requires continuous improvement and government purpose rights.. They all use inertial navigation. Inertial navigation also depends on continuity, but less than heat shields. The US was once good at inertial nav. We flushed that as soon as GPS allowed us to hire even more mediocre resources. A side note on inertial is that error is generally “per second”. Shorter flight time has less error. Propellant matters. Probably the most sensitive to continuity. Almost an art. The last fundamental could be called “autopilot”. The autopilot on any missile gets tailored to the unique behavior of the form fit and function of that missile. FAB3000 is a good example. The first few public releases, the FAB missed the target by a bit. Then they got the autopilot dialed in. No more misses. You cant dial them in in a lab. You have to go to the range. We see this in progress with Oreshnik now. They wont fire another until they finish dialing in the first one. Leaving warheads off altogether probably provides more accurate feed back for the dial in. The conclusion I wish to draw here is that the only thing that stops Russia from making hypersonics in all sizes is the time needed to develop the unique autopilot for each. Even then it is obvious that this has been reduced to a recipe.

    Where do we go from here. We have seen Russia pushing product to the line of combat. Along with discretion to use it. Bigger is not the only option for hypersonics. I imagine an RPG version could mean the end of armor and maybe artillery too? Nuclear bombs are gone. War ships are gone. US culture prohibits the US from getting there. And since the US has shared with all their friends, Russia is reciprocating. Think about Hamas with a hypersonic RPG.

    Last side note. With diligent algorithmic allocation, those Autopilots could run on 20 yr old chips. But that requires continuity of competency. The inertial nav is another matter. I will do a review of that next.

    #175736
    Noirette
    Participant

    on: Poletaev in RT, prev. thread, explaining why Trump won’t be able to quickly end the UKR conflict.

    https://swentr.site/russia/608224-nothing-changes-ukraine-trump-administration/

    Hmm. The plans bruited at present for ending it, seem to be a usual US-thingie, e.g. freeze the conflict, in this case for 10, 20 years? .. Getting away with claiming *not-a-loss* leaving future actions open..

    Or, some plans of EU / neighbors domination, cut-up, control of UKR, which Russia will not accept … Recall Putin had no trouble with trade agreements between UKR and the EU at one time, he even said UKR was welcome to join the EU. Of course NOT, NATO…

    Trump’s position rests on ending the UKR proxy war (at least that! – leaving internal politics aside), imho he will do an ‘art of the deal’ in one way or another, and ‘end’, a ‘climb-down’, etc. though capitulating to Russia’s demands will be very hard. (UKR neutrality, de-nazi, etc.)

    All depends on Trump’s (faction, advisors) reading of the state of the USuk – W domination, hegemony, and how it might best maintain itself, continue to impose, command, triumph.

    He surely knows that UKR is a lost cause. The final battle between The W Imperialists and the ROW is being fought out now in \West Asia./

    If Israel is somehow ‘defeated’ (e.g is destroyed, no longer exists, or is reduced to an enclave of policed, controlled, marginal pop, or becomes a tiny country minus apartheid, one man one vote thingie) the whole ME will orient differently, change shape.

    ROW = rest of the world

    — merely one reading of course, I tried to make it v. short.

    >> note condition: If Trump stays alive till end January.

    #175740
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Tariffs
    A lot of produce sold in Arizona comes from Mexico…25% tariff could really bite.

    #175741
    Noirette
    Participant

    Poppie wrote just above,

    The first is why Russia has effective products and the US doesnt. I know that the topic is bigger than Russia and US. I know the topic is bigger than just the military.

    Yes… to the first part of Poppie’s post. (I know nothing about heat shields)

    The main problem can be formulated, for milit. material, machines, products, etc., as motivated in the US by FOR PROFIT (much or all of the income coming from Gvmt. contracts, i.e. tax payers, which in return provides money to workers in the Defense Industry, and skim-offs for pols who guard, champion, that industry and their kick-backs, not to mention shareholders etc.) and not FOR EFFICIENCY, which by definition has to be clever, cheap, innovative, easy to produce long term, a communal effort, protected from extraction or skimming off by ‘overlords’, so as usually, but not always, regulated by the ‘Gvmt’ (Dictator, King, etc.) to prevent that.

    #175742
    poppie
    Participant

    ATACMS in particular. See en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/ATACMS. Yes its Wikipedia. Its hard for a liberal to bias this kind of article. There is some production. There have been some cancellations. It looks like brass tag shuffle. Any parts can get an ATACMS tag. My previous comments seem correct.

    #175743
    zerosum
    Participant

    Equality. Good for the goose good for the gander.

    Musk and Ramaswamy will focus on “major reform ideas to achieve regulatory rescissions, administrative reductions, and cost savings—& revive the principle of limited government.”

    a bygone era before telephones, email, and video conferences.
    decentralizing U.S. government agencies.

    Trump’s most famously ambitious objective, however, is to drain and ultimately empty the DC swamp of its unelected, unaccountable, and obstructionist bureaucrats who can thwart the will of the president, as they did so often during his first administration.
    The arrogance of these supercilious apparatchiks is due to the iron-clad protections they enjoy as civil servants.
    They cannot be fired no matter their behavior, except in the rarest of circumstances.
    Presidents come and go, they tell themselves, but we will outlast them all and can act accordingly.

    Schedule F will force permanent structural change on what has effectively become a fourth branch of government, namely, the administrative state. Everyday Americans have complained about federal bureaucratic hegemony for as long as we can remember, but now they will finally have a president in place with specific plans to do something about it.

    https://protectdemocracy.org/work/trumps-schedule-f-plan-explained/
    Trump’s Schedule F plan, explained
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    Mexico

    Sheinbaum disputed that she had made any material commitments but that the pair had discussed immigration and drug trafficking and that tariffs had come up in that context.
    Canada

    Canada’s economy is not without some industrial weight of its own and Trump’s primary concern with tariffs seems to be foreign imports.
    China

    Trump further singled out Beijing for additional scrutiny if it did not crack down on the export of fentanyl and other drugs.
    “Until such time as they stop, we will be charging China an additional 10% Tariff, above any additional Tariffs, on all of their many products coming into the United States of America,” Trump declared, observing that his move followed failed discussions with China to convince them to crack down.
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    #175744
    tboc
    Participant

    there is one thing i am sure the second Trump administration will be. Violent.
    Our children K-6 will once again be poisoned.

    The horse and sparrow analogy does work with one commodity. Feed the elite members of a society a diet of hate and enough hate will pass through to nourish the peasants.

    Semantics are important. There is a major misuse of language occuring. The word being used is efficiency, the proper word is ruthlessness. The ruthless pursuit of power and profit is the goal.

    perhaps any quote from written or spoken language may be taken out of context to form an illusory meaning. Those who have not read Aristotle are surely the target of the glib quote above. Socrates and Aristotle argued that virtue is knowledge and moral strength is exactly the presence of knowledge within an individual. There is no moral weakness, only ignorance. Thus any act of injustice is an act of ignorance.

    Violence is the hallmark of moral weakess. To praise violence is to praise ignorance. At this moment the efficiency of ignorance is being extolled as virtue.

    i will stay with Lao Tzu
    and like water i will seek out places men reject

    #175745
    jb-hb
    Participant

    The US turned out some awesome stuff in the WW2 era. The list of excellent war material is almost limitless. The P-51, P-47, Garand, 8in long tom, Iowa battleships… these are just the things that occur to me off the top of my head. I could go on with scores more.

    The US had the best submarine force – not the Germans of the Japanese as would be most peoples’ impression. (the US subs sank more civilian tonnage than those underhanded submariner Germans by far) which must reflect somehow on the quality of the subs, since the torpedoes were shit.

    All those consumer products from 30’s through 80’s that last forever, simply would not die, awesome at their particular purpose. Those were for profit too. (I had a box fan from KMart 1981 passed on to me by family. It died in 2019. In theory I could have taken it apart and saved it but I wanted one of those big work site fans to replace it.)

    Just like with Science, there was an underlying layer of culture that supported it. No virtue, no more science, just witch doctoring and scamming. Same. People WANTED to be honest and do real science, WANTED to be virtuous. People WANTED to come through with a kickass nearly indestructible fighter that would bring the pilot home. People WANTED to build kickass consumer products. (my coffee grinder from 1991 still works and I don’t dare replace it with a new thing that will die the year after I buy it. The 1991 grinder was made FOR PROFIT.)

    (I remember reading a tale of a damaged P-47 just trying to fly home. No working armament left. Can’t maneuver anymore. A german strafes the absolute hell out of it, eventually runs out of ammo. P-47 pilot pops his head back up. Plane still flying. Pilot unharmed. German pulls up alongside, they make eye contact. I don’t know what to do now – it’s never come up before. They shrug at each other. Shared amazement. German waves and flies off.)

    Look at the P-51. It’s a total beast. Also, it’s BEAUTIFUL.

    #175746
    jb-hb
    Participant

    US Reps Urge Biden For Full Pardon Of Julian Assange
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/us-reps-urge-biden-full-pardon-julian-assange

    And then create an American equivalent to knighthood and award it to him with a requirement that he be addressed and referred to as “Sir Julian Assange”

    American knighthood (actual term pending) could, in addition to a lump sum, include the kind of gold plated package CEO’s and former presidents get – health insurance, pension, a legal plan that retains high powered legal defense, security etc.

    #175747
    jb-hb
    Participant

    The elite of the 1800’s left national parks, libraries, universities, scholarships and awards, often lovely and always nearly indestructible infrastructure, private buildings that were a wonder to behold inside and out, treasures for the ages even if it was just an insurance office building. Their publishing houses printing an infinity of great works, their patronage funding great art and great symphony orchestras in beautiful venues.

    The current elite, being totally selfish and unvirtuous, as a defense, had to develop a new religion that inverts virtue so they are the good special ones and everyone else is bad, bad bad. The luxury belief they cannot loosen their white-knuckled grip on.

    If we could get them all neuralink as first adopters and then Captains Courageous each of their asses for 1000 simulated years…

    #175748
    Oroboros
    Participant

    @poppie

    I am with Andrei Martinov that Empire of Lies Military Academies, West Point in particular, used to be Engineering Schools.

    When you graduated from West Point you had an Engineer degree.

    Now a West Pointer can have a degree in ‘political affairs’ or worst ‘ecomonics’ which isn’t really even a science, it’s more like astrology.

    With an Officer Corp not grounded in hard science, you have poorer and poorer decisions made within the ranks for what weapons they need for The Future.

    A missile like Oreshnik started many, many Moons ago.

    And without the elaborate viper’s nest of corruption that the Empire of Lies Military Industrial Mafia represents.

    Wanna be a four star?

    Go with the flow of corruption at every single level of thePentagram’s procurement process.

    The whole system is rotten to the core, no wonder they can’t come up with an Oreshnik, The Aircraft Carrier KILLER and the Command Center Killer.

    The Russian’s play the long game, they play chess, Duh’merica plays checkers, poorly at that.

    Rumor has it that even Putin was not in the Oreshnik loop until it was very close to testing. The Russian’s were aces on keeping a secret.

    A very small compartmentalize operation of people who knew the Big Picture on hypersonic development. If it wasn’t secret it could be stolen then copied, it wasn’t.

    The bidge in Baltimore Harbor that the Port Authority let collide with that Major Bridge won’t be repair for 5-10 YEARS.

    The Chinese would have that bridge back in a few MONTHS.

    That’s the lag time in efficiency between China and Russia and the Empire of Lies, Lies, Lies.

    The Chines and Russian railway systems are HUGE. They have a hand full of derailments PER YEAR

    Duh’merica’s much small rail system has several derailments PER DAY.

    Like DUH

    That is your technology gap right there.

    It’s not just inventing cool new shit, military or civilian, it’s the industrial base Follow Through and Implementation AND Daily Maintenance

    Duh/merica got no game Dude

    Quagmires of Corruption

    All Hat and No Cattle.

    .

    #175749
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Howdy Partner

    Spare Change?

    #175750
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Remember, VACCINES SAVED US, you ignorant flat-earther misogynist racist capitalist homophobic conspiracy theorist bitter clinger scum

    https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/covid-chartvax1_0.jpg?itok=GdWnDmSZ

    #175751
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Metal Leo touring the shops and malls this Black Friday

    #175752
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    @tboc

    The word being used is efficiency, the proper word is ruthlessness.

    Amen brother.
    D does the same with the words ‘good’ and ‘innocents’.
    Much like him/her, I don’t know what he/she means

    Lol

    #175753
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Thank you all for the most recent interview with Alastair Crooke

    #175754
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    News from Yemen today.

    Yemeni forces declared on Sunday evening the execution of a “qualitative and joint” military operation targeting an American destroyer and three US army supply ships in support of Gaza and “in response to the American British aggression on our country.”

    Brigadier General Yahya Saree clarified in a statement that “the targeted US army supply ships are the Stena Impeccable, Maersk Saratoga, and Liberty Grace.”

    He stated that the operation was carried out “with 16 ballistic and winged missiles and a drone in the Arabian Sea and the Gulf of Aden,” confirming that the hits were “accurate and direct.”

    https://alkhabaralyemeni.net/2024/12/01/282821/

    I looked up the Stena Impeccable and a press release says it was one of the Stena tanker ships “reflagged as U.S. registered vessels with U.S. crews”, “to meet national defense and other security requirements”, “in support of the nation’s defense forces.”
    https://www.crowley.com/news-and-media/press-releases/three-crowley-managed-tankers-awarded-roles-in-defense-fleet-with-stena-bulk/

    An online search for the Maersk Saratoga revealed that it’s a container ship, and
    Maersk Saratoga is part of Maersk Line, Limited (MLL), the Danish company’s US subsidiary, which carries significant amounts of cargo for the Department of Defense

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