Debt Rattle December 10 2023
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December 10, 2023 at 9:05 am #148175Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
Salvador Dalí Mi esposa desnuda 1945 • ‘Most Censored Man’ In America Set To Return To X (RT) • Gonzalo Lira’s Father Blames Biden (RT) • US Co
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle December 10 2023]December 10, 2023 at 11:28 am #148176Dr D RichParticipantGonzalo Lira is not Julian Assange but they are both imprisoned and targeted for prosecution by putative allies, The Ukraine and Great Britain.
DBS and Dr D can opine ad nauseam why Scotter Ritter has yet to receive the Assange/Lira treatment. Maybe after DBS can step away from reducing that COVID count from, what was it, 2 billion. You know, the kind of numbers us math guys lose sleep over during what Dr D loathes as some overly emotional state.
When was Lira naturalized or was he always a U.S. citizen?
When was “robust regression analysis ” first put to paper? No fair peeking. DBS knows. 1980s? Earlier?Lira’s father’s duty IS to fight for his son AND he is admirably as manifestation of a Jungian archetype father/hero/sage.
Here’s the host quoting Pepe Escobar, I think.
I asked my self this question, how does Pepə know? Well, asked and answered as attorneys say.Russia will not initiate a diplomatic dialogue. A sense of threat is very real in Russia. Diplomatic channels conveyed this message to the Americans, behind closed doors.”
All meetings are behind closed doors. Usually closed door meetings mean we weren’t invited.
Then Escobar reveals he IS AN INSIDEE, I think.
Or what DBS guessed of me, delirious, demented, psychotic, intoxicated.Here’s Pepe’s explanation…even references ‘psychedelic(s)’
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I have been privileged to be part of key meetings on everything from the latest in the Ukraine-Belarus front to still secret, top-flight studies on the ideal mechanism to bypass the U.S. dollar in payment settlements. A small group of us, invited by the International Russophile Movement (MIR), were treated to a detailed visit to the astonishing Sretensky monastery complex, defined by mega cool guy Larry Johnson as an unparalleled architectural jewel where one may experience “the palpable presence of God.” Then there was the requisite ritual, long, languid dinner with a stunning Princess in unmatchable Patriarch’s Ponds – Moscow’s Soho; talking to the young, future generation planning a new ground-breaking think tank in St. Petersburg; the mesmerizing Russia exhibition at the VDNKh – complete with a four-story underground bunker built by Rosatom to highlight the history of the Russian nuclear program.
Yes: there are replicas of the supersonic TU-144, the K3 Leninsky Komsomol nuclear submarine and even the Tsar Bomba. Not to mention Gagarin’s rocket lighted as if it’s starring on a psychedelic trip. The spirit of Christmas in on at Red Square – complete with skating rink and countless Christmas trees from every Russian region displayed at GUM. Welcome to the true multipolar Moveable Feast; and in the era of genocide in every smartphone, unlike Hemingway’s time a century ago, that’s not exactly taking place in gloomy and fearful Paris
December 10, 2023 at 11:32 am #148177Dr. DParticipantFormer Speaker McCarthy, now retiring. “”When you look at the Democrats, they actually look like America. When I look at my party, we look like the most restrictive country club in America,” McCarthy said to laughter and applause”
I guess we know which Republicans he talks to. When I see Republicans, I see 100% of the Marx’s working class protetariat. It’s a fact now that the party of top donors and billionaires is the Democrats. That doesn’t mean there are not country club Republicans, or that we don’t remain mostly UniParty, but if what he’s saying was ever true, it certainly isn’t since, I dunno, Obama II or Michael Moore.
“US Joins Over 60 Other Nations To Pledge Emissions Reduction From Air Conditioners And Refrigerators
By forcing people to buy heat pumps, thereby INCREASING the number, than also causing everyone to whole-house A/C instead of economically one room. #Winning! Geez, if only this could go as well as the War on Poverty and Drugs. Oh, wait…
“Judge Grants Texas Woman With Abnormal Fetus An Exception To Abortion Law
I am sorry for this, but looks like the intent of the law is working quickly and well. No matter where you set the law, someone is inconvenienced. That’s always true and nothing unique here.
“Israeli media announced death of five more Zionist soldiers in Gaza, which raises the toll to 98 since the start of the aggression.”
So a THOUSAND to One kill ratio? Now isn’t it odd that becomes a metric of losing not winning? Goes to show there are extremes to everything.
“• ‘Most Censored Man’ In America Set To Return To X (RT)Does anyone believe Musk holds honest votes on a hidden software he controls? If so it would be the first honest vote this decade.
Jones: Well, See, I think this was a White Hat Op going way back, like the X Files. They had essentially little to no power then. (1990, losing Reagan to CIA Bush, who created an entire worldwide independent army with self-funding drug cartels, took Wall St, and several other rooks) What’s the only way to get the Black Hats to allow you to exist? You have to be controlled opposition, looking like a harmless cartoon like the National Enquirer. (at least back then). Like the X Files, it has to reinforce their mind control in belief “Conspiracy Theories”. So that’s what they had, the only opening, so they took it. Jones had to insure a certain % of each show was over the top bombast for the media overlords, while actually pointing at official published DoJ, FEMA records underneath. I don’t know why people can’t see that. I don’t care what he says if he points me to records that are real.
The Black Hats let him run as controlled opposition, just like Ron Paul. Not that they are owned or directed, or corrupt, but that the FBI only has to monitor who watches/reads these specific channels, or like StormFront, and like watching the video cameras of the prison yard, feel all safe and cozy and in control. Anyone who’s going to make trouble will try to join Ron Paul first, so just steal his mailing list. If Paul is actually corrupt, they will smell it and won’t get on the list.
The White Hats are making a different tactic and calculation: They bet that if hey can get some actual news and stories out by any means, it will resonate with the people and become generally popular with a minority of cult fans. Which it did. Then they will have say 10% of the people on board instead of 1%. Which it did. Then because the prison guards in the tower think they know what’s going on, they can get more or critical information into the public. Which they did.
Then when they call on it, in a crisis, suddenly the Prison Guards find that the prisoners are organized and all on roughly the same page: against you, and know your tactics. Which they did. Now that 10% of the people know stuff, it bleeds out and becomes Pareto’s Number, and 20% have heard such stories and are no longer strange, weird, or impossible to them.
At that point, they become part of the mainstream, and in this case, vote in Donald Trump.
The Prison Guards lose their minds, and are suddenly alarmed and punish Cool Hand Luke. I mean: just punish the uppity prisoner and everything goes back to normal, right? Not to go too big, they slowly work in – and that was smart – but ultimately have “no choice” but to ban him altogether. All on a Sunday, on all platforms. Including banking. And “Why don’t you start your own company if you want muh free speech??” They did. Amazon nukes Parler’s server farm the next day. Muh Private Company. Unless it’s Musk running it.
This leads to open confirmation and correct diagnosis of all watching (Are we 30% yet?) that THERE REALLY IS A CONSPIRACY. — YOU – sir, PROVED it. Nothing could be better for Jones, and to substantiate everything he’s ever said, wrong or not. Yet the nature of Prison Guards is they can’t help themselves. Letting him talk would lead to a slow reform of their criminal extraction. Fine. Banning him leads to more pressure and a sudden or violent end to their criminal extraction. “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable” – JFK. Fine. Either way, you’re gone.
And that’s about where we are now. With the Internets, Jones’ base is no smaller and probably bigger than ever. But his time has passed as thanks to him we can now say the same things in a Presidential debate on national TV. And all media is uncontrolled, as the Internet isn’t a wall with holes in it, it’s like a giant net with nothing BUT holes in it. You’re on NATIONAL TV, they HAVE to know. You can’t HIDE it. So you have to arrange so they let you and think it’s their idea.
https://byroncrawford.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c558f53ef01bb07b750bb970d-piSo the White Hats picked this one well. Well played, sir, well played.
And so we see on Tucker trying to embrace him back into the mainstream, as part of some new and probably necessary positioning. The X-Files system moved on into movies but dissolved and dissipated into squabbles. The Media is probably the only position the Black Hats own “completely” (such that a net with 1,000 holes can be called “completely”). And that’s a problem for us since we need a “Free” press that isn’t interfered with Government, and apparently these guys aren’t going to roll back certain entirely new legal inventions of corporate law. (Corporations remain over-privileged and overpowerful in my opinion. However, changing that is dangerous and hampering our corporations could cause us to lose competitively to China etc) They cannot YET get antiTrust on them or re-instate the media concentration law Bill Clinton erased. It probably is too late for it to work if they did. So in this case we have to beat them on their own terms: with the American People hating their guts as much as we do. Which, being vile, despicable liars, and deeply evil people, isn’t that hard to do, exposing each new layer as pedophiles like Zuck, like CNN, like everyone, like bread crumbs, year after year until the People understand what’s going on and how it’s controlled. But there’s no Pedos or sex trafficking rings said Nexium, Epstein, Hunter, and CNN.
“his son may have sealed his fate when he also spoke out against Washington.”
I can see why Lira figured that would be safe. Not only is it Biden, far away, and Lira very small, but EVERYONE speaks out against Biden here and nothing happens. Okay, suppose it’s entirely coincidence that he was arrested as we were all shocked it hadn’t happened months before. …He may have been hoping Ukraine would just consider him a Pain in the ss and deport him safely. That did not work. So then Biden … does nothing? Joe: people are pointing at YOU, saying YOU did this? And you didn’t do this, but aren’t going to just send some 3rd level lackey down there and make it SEEM like you didn’t? I’ll tell you, I wasn’t suspicious of you until then. I still find it hard to believe Biden is involved even tangentially, but… “The U.S. Embassy won’t respond to anything.” Huh? His crime is not being a gay basketball player.
“U.S. President Joe Biden failed to obtain his Christmas wishlist of $111 billion in additional military funds for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan.”
…Or you could solve homelessness 10 times over. As Jimmy Dore says. (that’s probably incorrect, but it makes the point)
“Russia will either have to “come to the negotiating table on terms that would be acceptable to Ukraine…or they will face a stronger Ukraine, backed by a stronger defense industrial base in the United States, in Europe, and in Ukraine that has more ability to go on the offense,” US deputy national security advisor John Finer warned”
Okay, well you’re the one who is requiring Russia to completely re-unify with Ukraine and take the whole thing. Everyone understands. I agree, but it will be very long, very messy, and running in stages.
““An Estonian military officer has formulated the following thesis: that ‘there are only two options: either Ukraine will win, or there will be World War III..’”
Oh, so ESTONIA is now the U.S. Capital! Okay, is that a promotion or demotion from being ruled from Kiev?
“• Bizarre Plot Twist: Scholz Blames Putin for High Energy Prices in Europe (Sp.)
Why? Because the people will believe it. They’ve been telling lies like this for 100 years. I think they have +20% of the people who won’t buy it though, so there will not be enough traction. That would have worked 10-20 years ago.
“If Trump were to pull military support for Ukraine, Esper claimed, “the whole effort to support Ukraine in its war with Russia would eventually crumble,” as would the alliance itself if Trump then began pulling troops from Europe.”
Who benefits here? Who loses? This is why I shake my head when I hear “Europe is a hollow puppet of the United States”, etc. Really? Because the American People are so rich and doing so well from this? Here the US leaves, then what? The only person who’s in trouble and now has to PAY IT THEMSELVES is Europe. Now EUROPE has to find the tanks, EUROPE has to find the men. Europe has to fight their own war. What does the U.S. win or lose? Nothing. We only cut costs so we can come back home and put “America First”. So how is it the U.S. MAKES Europe take all our money, our men, our attention, our prosperity? Pretty funny colonialism to make the coolies rich and yourself poor. It’s almost like WE’RE the Colony. Of London.
“Aldous Huxley once said, “you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad.”
…Only if everything you’ve believed up ‘til then is a lie. Unless he means “shall make you angry”.
“With Hunter’s Indictment, Democrats Face a Moment of Maddening Truth (Turley)
It’s not whether “THEY” do something, it’s whether “WE” do something. Turley like all statists want the State, the DNC to “do something”. Well, yeah, but the real Jury is OUT HERE, in America. The internal case is less important. If you win out here, a legal case proceeds, If you lose out here, the legal case vanishes. But we won’t care, because if they win we’ll all be dead.
“• Net Zero Requires 80 Million Kilometres of New Power Lines by 2040 (DS)
And what, 10 new copper mines, 5 new aluminum smelters? 50,000 linemen? There’s no plan for any of that: it’s a scam. Like Obamacare: huge new national plan: anybody hiring new doctors, nurses? No, not a single one? Just 6x more paper adjusters? Yeah: It’s a scam. And it was. So, so easy to tell a cave man could do it. But not a reporter.
“I want to hear from the journalists who participated in burying these stories, who wrote fake “explainer” pieces on how the Republicans were conspiracy theorists, who lashed out at Trump for attacking Joe over the Hunter scandals. Who decided that getting Joe elected was more important than uncovering the truth. Is that what they taught you in journalism school?”
Yes. Quite literally it is. All journalism as taught in all schools is “Advocacy” journalism. They take it as being Upton Sinclair, etc, but really they’re just Marxists, and vote Marxist, and bend all and every story to the most Marxist slant, to elect the most Marxist candidate. Ask me how I know this for a fact. But why bother? Call each and every student, every professor, every dean, every textbook author on the phone: they’ll tell you themselves, proudly and long.
THE PURPOSE OF JOURNALISM IS ETERNAL REVOLUTION. Just ask. Like I say about all subjects: just read at an 7th grade level: they’ll write it down, they’ll tell you, and sign their name. You only have to be brave enough to LOOK. …And you wonder why they have only contempt for us. Do we not deserve it?
Reporters couldn’t report Obamacare was a scam, because that wouldn’t be Marxist, and pushing the election of the most Marxist party (Sadly, the pathetic NeoLibs in the DNC) So? They just lied. Lied and lied and lied. “Advocacy Journalism”. Sinclair would be so, so proud they supported Boss Tweed in Tammany Hall. Ditto on every other of 100 issues.
Well, at least we have a definition of Cay-Pity-All-ism from Dr. Day. A sort of “what ordinary people now think Capitalism is.”
Maybe. Since we don’t define it we don’t know. Maybe only 30% think this and there are five other subcategories. Top observation: What’s a “Means of production”? Yes, a factory, but if I hire a guy and he uses my hammer? Where does that definition start? If he makes my barn, should he own it? I already bought him out of his stock ownership %. THAT’S WHY I PAID HIM. He DID own the product he created. THAT’S WHY I BOUGHT IT FROM HIM. Very weird definitions here.
Should he be paid twice, once for standing around in my shop and AGAIN for producing something? Okay, then he gets $10/hr for each half instead of $20/hr for the whole half. See what I mean? It looks solid until you touch it then it all falls apart. By the way, Nevermore’s article on it posted yesterday was very good https://nevermoremedia.substack.com/p/anarchist-mythos-vs-marxist-mythos
He’s level and generous to the Socialist view, while remaining clear and critical of it, a rare combination. So he’s giving them their due and showing where they go astray in good intent and accidentally turn into 100 million deaths. Fair enough. There will be parts 2 and 3 sometime.
December 10, 2023 at 11:42 am #148178Dr D RichParticipantOr Ritter, or Zhakarova or Putin himself.
Ghost of Hank Kissinger maybe?One man’s stream of consciousness is another man’s loosening of associations. Either one can get you locked up and straight jacketed in no specific order before a soulless, unemotional apparatchik of the state. Hoover was one such type who voiced the most danger to fear would come from a Messianic figure.
You think TPTB lumped Trump, Lita, Assange and lesser so Scott Ritter into the stature Hoover”s crew accorded The Black Panther Party?December 10, 2023 at 1:15 pm #148179choochParticipantLira’s trial date has been rescheduled for J6, 2024.
December 10, 2023 at 2:51 pm #148180kultsommerParticipant@WES – from yesterday.
The Russians were good people trying to survive in a brutally rotten system.
And the system was rotten to the core.True, but that system that you’ve experienced was at the other side of the globe and long gone. I am not downgrading your observation but I may say people many times “see what they like to see”, given that 80’s were special with exceptional anti-Soviet propaganda – rendered in so many movies. Solzhenitsyn, badly needed to aid the frenzy, was “discovered” in that decade, as lack would have it.
What brought that system down, for the most part, was method of employment that was based on quota and ranking in the waiting list in the unemployment office – aka next in line gets the job and seniority status later on while employed.
Key industries were immune to that method – AK47 was not invented by “the first in line”
What I am baffled about most of you is your absolute refusal to recognize huge faults in the system that you live in.
Ever been south of the border? Seen that poverty? Five year old kids in whee hours at the border crossing washing your windshields and selling chewing gums? About to be replicated in here, but please do not tell me that their “communist system” (that you would love to be so, with the glee) is being transferred to our shores.
Can we agree that the system is custom tailored for the psychopaths to ultimately “make it”, not only money-wise but also to become policy makers? Sure there are small mom-and-pop enterprises but their owners drive the “same car as their employees” – to use ultimate unit of measure of human worth so ingrained in the country. What happened to those businesses compared to the big guys during the Covid madness?
System is not only about “my business is good so life is good” but “how can I destroy my competitor?”, and grow for the sake of growth. Entire factories unbolted and moved to third world countries for even more growth.
Somebody’s misfortune is someones gain became prevalent business model. Remember the “real estate bus tours” during the recent housing crash? Occupants were blind to the scattered furniture at the front lawn but had the keen eye on their potential prize. How that can be healthy society?
Society where anywhere where one wants to venture into there is a middle man check point with extended hand, despite “the fact” that we live in a “free market society”?
Society when car salesman calls you his best friend and is taken without cringe.
Dr D’s world is full of rainbow win-win hand shakes and smiles with true merit winning in the angel-singing glory, and yet,
Nikola Tesla ended destitute in a NY hotel room. And many others. How is that possible? Was he “stupid” and not cunning enough?
I could go on….December 10, 2023 at 2:57 pm #148181kultsommerParticipantArt today.
Dali observed that humans have bones under the skin, unlike on Dec 6 piece.December 10, 2023 at 3:30 pm #148182zerosumParticipantWhy should Your problems/concerns/hate, take priority/be more relevant than my problems/concerns.
Keep your sanity. Work smart, let someone else do it/take care of it.Your problems
Hysterical mainstream media speculation, Lies, misinformation, no information, secrets,
Your belief, opinions, religion, racism, neo-Nazis, defend “freedom and democracy”, “hate speech”, propaganda, love, sex, abortions, failed War on Poverty and Drugs, Pedos or sex trafficking,LGBTIQA+ ‘LGBTIQA+’ is an evolving acronym that stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, intersex, queer/questioning, asexual. Many other terms (such as non-binary and pansexual) that people use to describe their experiences of their gender, sexuality and physiological sex characteristics.
Immigration/illegals/refugees, homelessness
food scarcities/inflation, cost of housing, lack of savings, “tighter credit conditions and rising rates”,
Russians, Ukraine, Israel, Gaza
oil/energy scarcity, Net Zero, energy distribution, Emissions Reduction, Air and water pollutions,
temp/weather extreme/fluctuations
genocide, depopulation,
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• Israeli Losses Multiply As Gaza Factions Ferociously Resist Aggression (Cradle)
https://new.thecradle.co/articles/israeli-losses-multiply-as-gaza-factions-ferociously-resist-aggression
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“..it makes no sense to insist that there is no direct evidence while opposing efforts to establish such evidence..”
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“Aldous Huxley once said, “you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad.”…Only if everything you’ve believed up ‘til then is a lie. Unless he means “shall make you angry”.
———–My irrelevant/minority problems/concerns are Peace, health and pain control.
———-December 10, 2023 at 3:31 pm #148183CelticbikerParticipantThe White Hats are gonna wait till everybody’s dead, Doc. Chickenshits with pensions.
December 10, 2023 at 4:05 pm #148184OroborosParticipantDon’t Worry Be Happy
The Transpope® has your back
December 10, 2023 at 4:05 pm #148185D Benton SmithParticipantThere are many other news sources in addition to the one linked above that starkly report the sheer, almost incomprehensible magnitude of the carnage being wreaked upon hapless Gaza by Israel’s so-called “defense” forces. It does stagger the imagination. In just the past 24 hour period over 450 strikes on largely civilian targets throughout the length and breadth of that tiny walled-in prison of two million innocent and non-combatant prisoners. There is not even a way to count the number of women and children being coldbloodedly and methodically massacred by the hour. Arithmetically it has to be at least dozens. And the clock is still running as we speak.
Seemingly only the murder of all two million of them, by thousands of separate and individually deliberate acts of criminal violence (by at least thousands of individual perpetrators) will be sufficient to prove that Zionist Israel is the most evil political entity that has ever existed in the known history of the Earth. That conclusion is not hyperbola. It’s simply a fact.
There have been larger genocides (Stalin and Genghis Khan killed more), and maybe there have been more cataclysmic mass murders (America’s atomic bombs vaporized entire cities in the blink of an eye) but up until Gaza there have none none that are so publicly open, protracted, deliberate and explicitly intentional as to CRIMINAL motive and purpose. Zionists are carrying out their stated aim of stealing a land from its occupants and killing literally ANYONE who obstructs that blatant violation of the most fundamental of all human rights: the right to exist in the place one is born into.
There are further aspects that make this travesty even worse, if such is even possible. One of these factors is that Israel holds itself out to be the repository of Divine Scripture and sole representative of the land and people of God Himself. In similar hubristic psychosis The United States of America claims to be the fountainhead of Liberty and Justice for all, portraying itself to be the bastion and shining light of Democracy. In other words, these two political entities (Israel and the United States) are claiming to be the very standard of high virtue while acting out the most vile depravity in living memory.
These two entities are committing unprecedented crime, while defiantly refusing the pleas of the entire civilized world to cease, or even curtail, the terrifyingly violent murder of children in Gaza.
Is the United States merely backing Israel’s insanity? Or is the US driving it’s smaller and utterly dependent ally to do its bidding as a proxy? Or, and this is a distinct possibility, is there some ZIONIST entity which is controlling both of those Countries from behind a thin and disintegrating curtain?
In any case, one thing is clear to every sentient being on the planet. The Zionist US and Zionist Israel have slipped the leash of common human decency and become evil incarnate, ripping apart the very fabric of sanity, fair contest and life, not only in Gaza, but within their own respective countries and colonies as well.
There is no question that they will be stopped. The truly inviolable laws of the Universe will see to that. The question is whether there will be a human civilization left afterward.
December 10, 2023 at 4:08 pm #148186OroborosParticipantDecember 10, 2023 at 4:09 pm #148187OroborosParticipantDecember 10, 2023 at 4:12 pm #148188OroborosParticipantNote the date of Nazilensky’s Certificate of Naturalization
September 2023
He’s getting to Screw the Pooch
December 10, 2023 at 4:18 pm #148189OroborosParticipantThe No 1 Leader in the World Greeting the No 2 Leader in the World
But First Take a Stiff Whiff
Watch Out for the Ghost of Christmas Future
December 10, 2023 at 5:27 pm #148190NoiretteParticipantMilitant / MS Isr-Jewish dominant opinion as in a post on Moon of Alabama.
Every standard trope is hammered hard.
Replying to tawharanui | Dec 9 2023 16:27 utc. “Palestine belongs to the Palestinian people and no one else”
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To us, the entire land and the Jew belong to each other because it is inherent in our heritage. It is enshrined in the Bible, it’s not the promised lad G-d did not promise but he gave, all of what is Gaza and West Bank is the GIVEN land that was for the chosen people.
Yet Jews often shy away from making the Biblical claim outright. You hear Jews speak of the United Nations Vote for Partition in 1948. You hear Jews speak of a historical right to reclaim the land of our ancestors, but rarely does one hear Jews speak publicly about a G-d given right enshrined in the Bible and this is The only true reason why Jew live in Israel today. It isn’t a gift of the UN and it is not ours by right of conquest. It isn’t ours on account of history, it is ours because G-d made it so.
Had the UN given us California, we would not have gone. Had the Jewish people defeated the Nazis in the Warsaw Ghetto, we Jews would not have claimed that land as it rightly belongs to the polish people.
The land of our fathers, the land of our glory, the land of our home, the land of our soul; the land that moves millions of Jews worldwide since 1947 to leave and come and settle here, to fight in the IDF to make a home here, to build paradise here.
Should we deny this essential truth only because there are political movements in the world that are not prepared to accept it?
We Jews often shy away from making the Biblical claim outright. You hear Jews speak of the United Nations Vote for Partition in 1948. You hear Jews speak of a historical right to reclaim the land of our ancestors, but rarely does one hear Jews speak publicly about a G-d given right enshrined in the Bible.
Once again get it into your little head, Israel belongs to the Jews. We don’t require legal arguments or scientific proof to justify our claim to Israel.
The horrors of October 7th present us with an opportunity, that we might lose forever, to reclaim all of our land, we had previously agreed to share our land it with the Palestinians, Hamas returned the favour by rape and pillag while the whole world watched.
The world must now understand we cannot now live with Palestinians as neighbours. Our existence is threatened, there is plenty of land where the Palestinians can move to. Muslims nations must accommodate them, not a small country like Israel.
Posted by: David Cohen | Dec 9 2023 17:44 utc | 33
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/12/palestine-open-thread-2023-297.html#comments
Apologies for length. David Cohen of course may not be a real person with a genuine opinion. Note: “The horrors of October 7th present us with an opportunity, that we might lose forever..”
December 10, 2023 at 8:23 pm #148191D Benton SmithParticipantDavid Cohen of course may not be a real person with a genuine opinion. Note: “The horrors of October 7th present us with an opportunity, that we might lose forever..”
Yeah, it may well be that both the identity and words of the purported Mr. Cohen are “constructed” semi-fiction, but I still do think that they are an accurate statement of the rationale and position that the Zionists want Jews and their allies to believe and act upon. It is, essentially, what Netanyahu has already argued on public television, and has been echoed by “man-in-the-street” interviews in Israel and America.
It doesn’t matter whether those speakers (like the alleged David Cohen) delusionally believe what they’re saying or are just bold-faced lying to excuse a blatant land grab, because it is totally unacceptable as an excuse for theft and murder in either and both cases.
December 10, 2023 at 8:41 pm #148192citizenxParticipantDBS and Dr D can opine ad nauseam…during what Dr D loathes as some overly emotional state.
Or what DBS guessed of me, delirious, demented, psychotic, intoxicated.Haha, no doubt.
Dr D’s world is full of rainbow win-win hand shakes and smiles with true merit winning in the angel-singing glory, and yet,
Dr D the zionist apologist ? Dr D who constantly obfuscates reality to hide truth and his minion DBS ?
Pay attention to what Dr D is NOT talking about and its hidden agenda is clearly revealed.Dr D the cockroach who is somehow here every single day right after tae drops to do his song and pony bs ? As if it has no life other then to parasite here daily to distract…almost like a job or mission in life. Creepy at best, completely disingenuous every day. Get a life Dr D and DBS- there is a beautiful world to explore beyond the confines of your computers and agendas.
Truth is Love, not hate.
Both of you worms- Dr DBS, conflate anyone speaking truth in anger with being hateful.
You are liars. Liars are hateful weasel fucks who steal truth.Your shtick is as tiresome as your bs lingers ‘hear’ every day.
In our world rocked by lies and violence- how convenient that you both encourage apathy and you “doth protest too much” against dissent and resistance to lies.December 10, 2023 at 9:02 pm #148193OroborosParticipantNikki Doesn’t Feel So Saucy Anymore…
Look at that face, Vapid Bimbo Moment (VBM)
(Trump names Nikki Haley as UN ambassador) Face palm
She probably can’t name ten states in the Empire of Lies much less three areas of Ukronaziland.
Bitch Slap
Ouch
December 10, 2023 at 9:08 pm #148194zerosumParticipanthttps://english.almanar.com.lb/framework/includes/uploads/2023/12/manar-05832210017018566415.jpg
A church in Bethlehem has created a nativity scene resembling the situation in war-torn Gaza, as Christmas this year approaches amid brutal Israeli onslaught on the besieged enclave.
The nativity scene at the Evangelical Lutheran Christmas Church shows a toy baby wrapped in the traditional Palestinian keffiyeh and placed in debris and rubble.
While the keffiyeh symbolizes Palestinian identity, history, and struggle, the debris represents destruction in Gaza, where over 16,000 people have been martyred by Israeli indiscriminate war, most of them children and women.
The toy baby, symbolizing Prophet Issa (Jesus), is believed to represent the thousands of children buried beneath the rubble in Gaza.
“Church families met last week and built it together. It was a moving experience for our families. During the service on Sunday, some people were in tears,” Reverend Doctor Munther Isaac, the church’s pastor, told The New Arab on Tuesday.
Bethlehem is believed to be the birthplace of Prophet Issa (AS). Thousands usually flock to the West Bank city every year on Christmas to celebrate his birth anniversary.
December 10, 2023 at 9:26 pm #148195D Benton SmithParticipant@DrDRich
I would be happy (or at least entertained) to have a piss fight with you . . . if I could just figure out what the fuck you were even talking about.
For example, “Or what DBS guessed of me, delirious, demented, psychotic, intoxicated”
You said it, Doc. Not me.
And I mean that literally. In other words, you say that I guessed of you several things that I never did guess, or think or say about you. Ever. The fact is (and I mean this as no sort of insult) I have never bothered to give you or your comments very much thought at all. Your posts are just too convoluted and fragmentary to make any sense of. As often as not they sound like you’re telling an “inside joke” to yourself. Since I’m not privy to the inner workings of your mind the joke isn’t even understandable, much less funny . . . or even offensive. That’s why I wrote a few days ago that I would like you to speak more intelligibly if you didn’t mind.
Well that approach didn’t work out very well. Seems to have just pissed you off. My words may have fallen upon delirious, demented, psychotic, intoxicated ears, but that’s just guessing.
December 10, 2023 at 10:13 pm #148196D Benton SmithParticipantDBS and Dr D can opine ad nauseam…during what Dr D loathes as some overly emotional state.
Or what DBS guessed of me, delirious, demented, psychotic, intoxicated.Haha, no doubt.
Dr D’s world is full of rainbow win-win hand shakes and smiles with true merit winning in the angel-singing glory, and yet,”
I’m guessing that not only the irony of what you said, but the psychological projection of it, escapes you.
Allow me to explain it. Right after saying (and I quote) “Truth is Love, not hate.” you launch into a hate-filled diatribe against Dr D and me without even taking a new breath.
You say: “Both of you worms- Dr DBS, conflate anyone speaking truth in anger with being hateful.
You are liars. Liars are hateful weasel fucks who steal truth.”By the way, wherever charged you for swearing lessons should refund your tuition. Allow me to quote you again, “Liars are hateful weasel fucks who steal truth.” That’s just pathetic. I feel embarrassed for you.
December 10, 2023 at 10:23 pm #148197CelticbikerParticipantNotice that the satanic talmudists built America up to use it as a hammer against anyone not wanting to be a whore to a world bank. Post WW2. At the same time they fattened them up, made them weak, prepared em for slaughter, which is happening now. Sorry Goyim, we shipped all your manufacturing to China…time to die, your usefullness is over. Fast food, fentanyl or injections, doesnt matter, we got your replacement coming over the border, no pension baggage. Ready to kill Whitey for a dollar, which is worth 2 cents now.
December 10, 2023 at 10:28 pm #148198OroborosParticipantNikki Haley is Trump’s pick for U.S. ambassador to U.N. (Nov 2016)
I see no sign that Trump won’t appoint the same horrifying Dipshit State Perverts if he gets a second shot.
Congress has to approve his cabinet and look at the Turds he picked last time, Bill Barr being the worst shitbag AG ever in my book.
Imagine if Trump wanted Bobby Kennedy Jr as AG.
How ironic
Congress would NEVER approve Kennedy as AG
Cause him wants Revenge
Like Big Time Revenge
The kind of Revenge that Ulysses got in the Iliad
Ulysses locked all his opponents and suitors who had disrespected his family in room and murdered them all
Antinous was the first, arrogant, vain, full of himself. Ulysses shot an arrow through his throat while he drank wine from a gold cup.
Ulysses then processed to show no mercy and finished off the rest.
I do believe Kennedy as AG would settle scores.
Scores of scores in fact.
And he would go after a lot of Congress
That’s why they would never approve him.
Bobby Kennedy as Ulysses against the Ones who killed his uncle and Father
December 10, 2023 at 10:39 pm #148199OroborosParticipantIs It Safe to Assume NATO Funding Has Finally Run Out?
Nothing but the best for Nazilensky Hordes
Oy Vey Ukronaziland is melting like the Wicked Witch!
December 10, 2023 at 10:49 pm #148200zerosumParticipant@ Oroboros
Are you referring to the soldiers bring the fresh horse meat.December 11, 2023 at 12:10 am #148201CelticbikerParticipantNotice the reindeer are very similar to the kinectic sculpture, amazing how God works.
December 11, 2023 at 12:29 am #148202aspnazParticipantD Benton Smith said
Allow me to explain it. Right after saying (and I quote) “Truth is Love, not hate.” you launch into a hate-filled diatribe against Dr D and me without even taking a new breath.
DBS back to his old tricks again. I remember you whining about how I hated you and you did not know what you had done to deserve it. Of course, I did not hate you and I had done nothing, you had been hanging out with too many Jews and now thought you had a right to be a victim at any time of your own chosing, which was usually when I demolished some bullshit you were posting or because I was pointing out the amoral behaviour of your beloved Jews.
Now you accuse others of hateful speach, like a little five year old girl complaining to her teacher that someone was nasty to you. Just because you don’t like the truth does not make the truth hate, it simply reveals that you are not able to handle the truth, so you run and hide in your victim emotions. The problem is in you, you are the only one who can fix it.
Dr D and yourself continue to frantically defend the Jews. I can understand that, I often assumed you were both Jewish, so I understand that you want to defend your own, but it does make you sound detached from reality.
December 11, 2023 at 12:35 am #148203Figmund SreudParticipantThis most infamous polluting gas bag suggests a solution to how to fix democracy crisis ( … it starts at ~ 18:20 point)
Hint: Gore claims that social media had “disrupted the balances that used to exist that made representative democracy work much better.” Phlunkin dumb truck, …
F.S.
December 11, 2023 at 12:50 am #148204D Benton SmithParticipantSunday is typically a “slow news day” around here, but not this day. This Sunday is a blast (which means very very entertaining in the parlance of half a century ago). Not one, not two but (count them) THREE shitposters having a go at their betters today. Hey, @aspnaz, glad to have you back, buddy. Still got yer panties in a bunch I see. And still dumb as a sack of hammers, too.
You can assume I’m Jewish if you wish, but you know what they say about assumptions.
In closing I want to remind you that the only thing of mine that you’ve ever demolished is my opinion of your ability to set ego far enough aside that you could have a thought which wasn’t aimed at defending your own errors rather than advancing toward the possibility of gaining greater understanding about things you don’t know jack-shit about.
December 11, 2023 at 1:45 am #148205CelticbikerParticipantPlease explain DBS how you are our betters, very interested to hear your logic.
December 11, 2023 at 1:49 am #148206poppieParticipantI wish you pecker heads could comment on the news and not each other. Bunch of fucking twats.
December 11, 2023 at 1:53 am #148207aspnazParticipantCelticbiker said
Please explain DBS how you are our betters, very interested to hear your logic.
He’s chosen by god.
December 11, 2023 at 2:25 am #148208aspnazParticipantpoppie said
I wish you pecker heads could comment on the news and not each other. Bunch of fucking twats.
Your wish is very unlikely to come true, that is the nature of goyim Chritmas wishes. Christmas is where all the retailers and advertisers boost the coffers of the ((MSM)) by celebrating the birth of the ((Jesus)) rebel created to strike at the heart of the Roman empire. It didn’t work. Of course, this year the Netanyahu is the ((Bibi)) in the manger and it looks like he will be getting his Christmas wish come true, the goyim kicked out of Israel. You can’t say nothing changes. Is that newsworthy enough? Happy now?
December 11, 2023 at 2:27 am #148209WESParticipantKultsommer:
Thanks for your reply to my comments.
Yes, that was long ago! But Russia’s experience with socialism is now in the history books but shouldn’t be forgotten nor repeated.
I wrote a long reply to your comments, which I mostly agree with, but the gods of WordPrese somehow swallowed my reply and I haven’t been able to recover it’s contents. Sigh!
Maybe tomorrow I might try rewriting it?
I do think we both share a common trait. We are both realists not dreamers. We observe what is going on around us with interest. Especially things that don’t work, or work poorly, with unintended consequences.
When it comes to Russian socialism, I got the chance to temporarily “walk in Russian shoes” which certainly changed my thinking. As you probably noticed, I am not anti-Russian, since my working with ordinary Russians proved to me that they were just like us in every way!
(Please WordPress don’t swallow this reply!)
December 11, 2023 at 2:31 am #148210D Benton SmithParticipantSince I was talking to (and about) three specific shitposters who had a go at me and Dr D today let’s acknowledge that I was talking to THEM, not to you. Lucky for you, right? That means I don’t NECESSARILY think that I’m your better, but that could change if I see that making such a silly claim would get your goat and get you talking to me directly, like an actual human being, like you just did.
So now that I have your actual attention for a minute let me take this opportunity to say to you what I actually think. First of all, in reality I am completely sure that I’m not “better” than any of the jerks that I just snarked at, but at the same time I also know that they’re each very heavily invested in the ego department and that they avoid actual engagement with others in conversation. To them it is always some sort of contest. They view conversation and debate as a zero-sum game with a “winner” and a “loser”, rather than as an opportunity to actually learn something. They can’t learn because that would require them to first accept that they might be (or ARE) wrong about something, which would result in appearing to “lose, which they can just never ever allow to happen.
“Disrespecting one’s betters”, is not a statement about anyone being actually “better” than someone else. It is a figure of speech that means showing ignorant disrespect toward another who should rightfully be respected and at least listened to for understanding, rather than attacked and deliberately misrepresented.
So, what do I think about you, in particular? I think you are smarter than you let on to be, and get better traction with the larger TAE audience when you express more of your thinking and rationale, and skip the polemical JEW JEW JEW thing, which is far too generalized and imprecise to be of much use. There are those who loudly profess to be Jews who are fully self awarely NOT Jews, but who pose as such for very specific (and explicitly known) reasons. Their existence has been known and documented (piecemeal) for literally thousands of years If you deep dive history, scriptural archeology and linguistics you will discover that to be a fact, too, and I think you would find it very interesting. Check out Robert Sepehr and James Tabor for starters.
P.S. I’m not Jewish. At all.
December 11, 2023 at 2:43 am #148211D Benton SmithParticipantI basically agree with your complaint, but sometimes ya have to take the long-way-around to get through to particularly thick headed twats who are fucking with the forum.
December 11, 2023 at 3:52 am #148212Veracious PoetParticipantI basically agree with your complaint, but sometimes ya have to take the long-way-around to get through to particularly thick headed TWAT
Swhoareis fucking with the forum.The *malevolent* modus operandi + posting frequency actually appears to be only one (1) particularly thick headed twat (i.e. forum sock puppet), although there is no shortage of disorders within the environs…
Although the ever-present stream of consciousness loquacity spewed by certain regular “participants” (rabbiting on into masturbatory EG0ic indulgence), is also of prime ruination to the “discussion” 😐
Anti-Social Media now appears the “norm”, not the exception…
GLWTS.
December 11, 2023 at 4:02 am #148213Veracious PoetParticipantDecember 11, 2023 at 4:23 am #148214Veracious PoetParticipantVoter turnout plunges below 30% in Hong Kong election after rules shut out pro-democracy candidates…
Voter turnout plunged below 30% in Hong Kong’s first district council elections since new rules introduced under Beijing’s guidance effectively shut out all pro-democracy candidates, setting a record low since the former British colony returned to Chinese rule in 1997.
…under new electoral rules introduced under a Beijing order that only “patriots” should administer the city, candidates must secure endorsements from at least nine members of government-appointed committees that are mostly packed with Beijing loyalists, making it virtually impossible for any pro-democracy candidates to run.
Many prominent pro-democracy activists have also been arrested or have fled the territory after Beijing imposed a harsh national security law in response to the 2019 protests.
https://apnews.com/article/hong-kong-district-council-elections-481cf823ec846f609781606e19e6c801
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