Debt Rattle December 19 2024
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December 19, 2024 at 4:14 pm #177343OroborosParticipantDecember 19, 2024 at 4:15 pm #177344OroborosParticipantDecember 19, 2024 at 4:18 pm #177345OroborosParticipant
Break the Cycle
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December 19, 2024 at 4:58 pm #177350Dr. DParticipantToo much happening to go back, but here’s filling in the past: The WEST, our media, out of the blue just started saying North Korea was in Ukraine. Everywhere, all at once, no proof, everyone. We all said, W.T.F.? Then it was Kursk, and we’re still like, “Okay, who cares, but WTF? Show me.” Nope.
What happens? SOUTH Korea “attacks” (antagonizes) North Korea. With at a minimum, drone attacks over the capital Pyongyang dropping leaflets. Ummm…when you’re in an active war, don’t fly aircraft over your nuclear neighbor? And then!
…Nothing. North Korea was like “Huh?” and just like Putin, ignored them.
And then? Well, weeks went by. This is all part of THE PLAN! The Master Plan! The Plan we Planners Planned, and we never divert from The Plan. And then? And then SOUTH KOREA DECLARES MARTIAL LAW ANYWAY.
Wait: whut? Yes, North Korea was SUPPOSED to have done something to make that make sense, but the “Planners” don’t have the brains of a sea slug and just went ahead and did it anyway. AS IF North Korea had…done anything.
OBVIOUSLY, SoKo en masse was like “What the Literal F—k do you think you’re doing??????? NO, you cannot call ‘Marital Law’, just ‘cause.”
Go to Parliament, stop it. Go to session, impeach him. OBVIOUSLY. And now what? Ohhhhhhh, so this was The Plan all along. So YOU attacked North Korea, so YOU have written records you were going to arrest and kill all opposition immediately. Uh: NO.
Now, all that, getting to WHY. Why? SoKo has the only remaining weapons – of ANY kind – in the entire West. That tells you how stone dead and helpless the West is. Every. One. The ONLY way to get those weapons to Ukraine was over South Korea’s dead body. Challenge accepted. So they topple SoKo to get weapons. Uhhhh…I don’t know about your “Plans” but have you ever heard the American phrase “Hail Mary”?
Yeah, that’s not even a Hail Mary. That’s …well, I don’t know what. It would have been a Hail Mary IF the game wasn’t already over AND you were in the end zone. There’s no game, no ref, no audience, and you’re trying to throw the ball out of the stadium and into the parking lot. While it’s snowing. In the dark.
Anyway, THAT is what was happening all these months, and not SoKo, not us in the West, not Ukraine, not Russia, not NoKo, NO ONE believed this. They SAID it, sure, and we all said, “So?”
Things that might have been.
December 19, 2024 at 5:10 pm #177351OroborosParticipantDecember 19, 2024 at 5:16 pm #177352jb-hbParticipantIs there anything that ISN’T socialism/marxism/communism?
Is there any group, community, club, hobby, genre, or concepts or terms that carry a cultural-social cache that cannot achshully turn out to be communist? ANY word or concept that carries great mana, that sits on an intersection of lay-lines, that doesn’t, it turns out, to ackshully be communist?
What isn’t communism?
Injustice. Communism isn’t injustice. (20th century doesn’t exist. Nor the 19th nor 21st. We agree to discuss on this basis…)
Okay, but then injustice becomes a big thing. Very trendy. People are super into it. There’s injustice clubs and societies, there’s people raising their families with injustice-values. There’s injustice internet forums.
60 seconds later, there’s a flying monkey on that Injustice Forum educating, training: “ACKshully, injustice IS Communism….”
Gut reaction – does this ring true somehow? TOTALLY implausible in thought-experiment?
EVERYTHING is a double-edged sword…. LITERALLY everything…
December 19, 2024 at 5:20 pm #177353OroborosParticipantYes
December 19, 2024 at 5:20 pm #177354OroborosParticipantDecember 19, 2024 at 7:45 pm #177355zerosumParticipantProblem # 1
Too much borrowing and too much lending of money that does not exist
Problem # 2
Too many Secrets and Lying
Problem # 3
Too many eyes telling what is happening. Lost control of the narrative.
Problem # 4
Depopulations/Genocides with impunity
Problem # 5
Political interferences. “Trump Proofing” is obvious
Problem # 6
ProcrastinationDecember 19, 2024 at 7:59 pm #177356OroborosParticipant
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December 19, 2024 at 9:15 pm #177357WESParticipantThe science of TaylorSwift.
December 19, 2024 at 9:19 pm #177358zerosumParticipantWhat a day!
I’ll SHUTDOWN!
It’s all Musk’s fault
Problem # 1
Too much borrowing and too much lending of money that does not existDecember 19, 2024 at 9:27 pm #177359Dr D RichParticipantNotice an error in judgment or diagnosis always benefits the psychopath.
Indifference benefits the psychopath’s scheme
So does willful blindness and stupidity.The Wingmen, Flying monkeys and assorted Hangers-on distract from correctly identifying the psychopath, purportedly 1% to 6% of the population.
And in the moment, we all can “go there” and “there” is display psychopathic traits under stress.What does a person capable of quickly and accurately discerning psychopathy look like to that psychopath under a discerning eye?
Well, then that psychopath even if they’re high functioning really has to go to work. Call in your wingmen.
Defend.
Deny.
Shift blame.
Counter-accusations.
Win or Control are the only acceptable outcomes
Count on attorneys and judges to be easily manipulated by the Con.
Lather.
Rinse.
Repeat.December 19, 2024 at 9:38 pm #177360WESParticipantZerosum:
Every time a person walks into a bank to borrow money, the bank loan manager just creates the money you want to borrow, out of thin air!
The loan becomes a liability for you.
The bank adds you to their asset sheet.Congratulations!
You are now a debt slave!December 19, 2024 at 9:57 pm #177361zerosumParticipanthttps://www.zerohedge.com/political/johnson-meets-trump-team-throw-federal-funding-hail-mary
“There Is An Agreement”: Johnson To Whip Out Latest Attempt To Avert Friday Shutdownby Tyler Durden
Update (1350ET): Republican lawmakers have reportedly struck a new spending deal to keep the lights on in Washington until at least Jan. 30, 2027, according to Politico, citing two GOP lawmakers meeting in Speaker Mike Johnson’s office Thursday afternoon.
https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1869855406237024700?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1869855406237024700%7Ctwgr%5E777d586e2e5807a31d782830ebf8d6d8c5c35a5f%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitical%2Fjohnson-meets-trump-team-throw-federal-funding-hail-mary
BREAKING: SPENDING DEAL RELEASEDIt moves the debt ceiling out to Jan. 30, 2027.
https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1869855406237024700/photo/1The new package is just 116 pages, down from 1,547 in the original draft.
Rep. Tom Cole (R-OK), who was also in Johnson’s office, didn’t say whether congressional Democrats or the White House had agreed to it, however Bloomberg reports that it has Trump’s blessing.
Late Wednesday afternoon, President-elect Trump demanded Johnson abandon the previous revision he’d worked out with Democratic congressional leaders.
Meanwhile, Trump is now gunning for… Chip Roy?
‘With Friday’s government shutdown looming – and odds spiking after everyone figured out that the 1,547-page Continuing Resolution (CR) was full of Orwellian bullshit and other malarkey, House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) has gone to Donald Trumps team with hat in hand.The new plan will be a federal funding stopgap plan that includes disaster aid, pushing off the debt limit fight for two years, and a one-year farm bill extension, Politico reports, citing Republicans familiar with the discussions.
No word on how close this comes to a “clean” bill, or how much of the aforementioned bullshit is gone – such as funding the Global Engagement Center, shielding the Jan. 6 committee from subpoenas, and funding new biolabs, but we guess we’ll find out.
Also unknown is whether Democrats will support the plan.
But Trump had made an 11th hour public demand that any stopgap bill should deal with the debt limit. Trump’s team is pushing for at least a commitment to lift the debt limit before Jan. 20.
The level of disaster aid and whether it’s completely paid for is still unclear. The package would also likely include some additional economic aid for farmers, amid threats from rural Republicans to oppose any stopgap that doesn’t include the funding. -Politico
In a closed door meeting on Thursday, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) told Democratic lawmakers: “Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate,” citing JFK.
Polymarkets odds of a government shutdown went from 15% yesterday to 49% this morning.
According to Punchbowl News, here’s what happened, and what’s next;
At some point today, House Republicans and Democrats will likely have separate party meetings to chart their path forward. Democrats have announced their meeting for 9 a.m. We’ll talk more about them below.
But make no mistake — this is Johnson and Trump’s mess to solve. And we’re inching toward a shutdown as government funding runs out at midnight Friday.
Johnson was mostly MIA Wednesday, holed up in his Capitol office for hours without showing his face. Even the House GOP leadership team felt like they were being kept in the dark about what was happening.
Late in the evening, Johnson met with Vance, House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, Reps. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), Chip Roy (R-Texas) and Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.), Appropriations Committee Chair Tom Cole (R-Okla.) and Rules Committee Chair Michael Burgess (R-Texas). Jordan and Roy are conservative hardliners. Diaz-Balart is a senior appropriator.
As Scalise left around 10 p.m., he told reporters “We’re not there yet” when asked whether the debt-limit boost would be part of any new government-funding plan. “A lot of things have come up,” Scalise added.
A somewhat obvious play may be a funding bill with a two-year debt-limit extension. Why? Because Trump supports increasing the debt limit now. Given how volatile Trump was during his first term, there’s no guarantee he’ll do this again. (For what it’s worth, Biden administration officials estimate the debt limit won’t be reached until sometime next summer. GOP leaders were planning to handle it in a reconciliation bill).
Trump is giving Johnson cover for the time being. It’s limited, however. Because Trump, once again, has put his party in a bind. There are probably dozens of Republicans who have never voted for raising the debt ceiling. Now Trump is forcing them to do so.
Check back for updates.
December 19, 2024 at 10:24 pm #177362zerosumParticipanthttps://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/12/19/congress/gop-strikes-a-new-spending-deal-00195410
GOP strikes a new spending deal that includes disaster aid and raising the debt limit
Donald Trump has endorsed it, but the news caught Democrats by surprise Thursday afternoon.By Jennifer Scholtes, Katherine Tully-McManus and Meredith Lee Hill
12/19/2024, 3:31pm ETUpdated: 12/19/2024, 5:09pm ET
President-elect Donald Trump endorsed a new Republican deal Thursday afternoon to avert a government shutdown and raise the nation’s debt limit for two years, after sinking the bipartisan agreement Speaker Mike Johnson originally struck with Democrats.
“All Republicans, and even the Democrats, should do what is best for our Country and vote ‘YES’ for this Bill, TONIGHT!” Trump wrote.
https://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20241216/American%20Relief%20Act%202025.pdf
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9 (division A of Public Law 118–83) is amended—December 19, 2024 at 11:12 pm #177364CelticbikerParticipantJew theatre, all of it. Are you enjoying the show? As you’re getting robbed blind, sickened and murdered by vaccines…enjoy the show. The surrealism will be amplified, until you wonder if you’re in a madhouse. You are. It’s a kosher madhouse, called Hell. Once you understand these motherfuckers want you dead, you won’t believe or buy their bullshit, watch their tv or play with their phones. They mean buisness, this is the endgame. They have all the $ in the world, are starving people to death, right in front of you, and laugh in your face.
December 19, 2024 at 11:14 pm #177365those darned kidsParticipant4% of humans is psychopather – the ones with bad teeth become criminals, the ones with good teeth become politicians.
80% of humans is sheeps that do all crazy-ash stuff the psychos “ask” them to do.
16% of humans is the ones who waste their entire lives desperately trying alert the 80% to the nefarious intentions of the 4%.
You were sick, but now you are well again. And there’s work to be done.” ~kilgore trout
December 20, 2024 at 12:11 am #177366Michael ReidParticipantRichard D. Wolff & Michael Hudson:
The US Empire Facing Devastating DefeatDecember 20, 2024 at 12:17 am #177367Mr. HouseParticipantWonderful readers,
Lets play a game, can anyone here tell me the difference between these two links and why they might be different?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_pandemic#Treatment
December 20, 2024 at 12:19 am #177368zerosumParticipantYou are dreaming.
Democracy, (DOGE), taxes are for the people, by the people, of the people.December 20, 2024 at 12:21 am #177369tbocParticipant“80% of humans is sheeps that do all crazy-ash stuff the psychos “ask” them to do.” – tdk
there is some small percetange of the population that just attempts to persude the 80% not to fuck around and find out, at the interpersonal level.
Self defense is not anti-social behavior, forget what your high school guidance counselor told you
December 20, 2024 at 12:50 am #177370tbocParticipantthe Ports of New York and New Jersey are the fourth largest by volume of trade.
bombing the port to damage the longshoremen would be Pinkerton writ largeThe War on UNFAIR Competition
The Sanctions Restoration ActPorts of South Louisiana are close, let er rip
December 20, 2024 at 1:29 am #177371WESParticipanttboc :
Since most US ports are foreign owned, the owners want to (bribe congress) automate everything and eliminate all US longshoremen.
Control of equipment can then be controlled remotely and out sourced to a 3rd country for dollars a day.
See how that works!
December 20, 2024 at 1:55 am #177372OroborosParticipantDecember 20, 2024 at 1:58 am #177373OroborosParticipantDrone Update:
The drones have made it to Texas!
There are Flying Dicks! over South East Texas!
December 20, 2024 at 2:01 am #177374OroborosParticipantPhuck With Their Heads!
December 20, 2024 at 2:11 am #177375OroborosParticipantGive Me a Tug and I”ll Moo for You……
December 20, 2024 at 3:43 am #177381zerosumParticipantMoney buys congress.
There were 38 R. who voted against a new spending deal that includes disaster aid and raising the debt limit.
Musk should be able to finance and modify the “deal” to make it pass congress.
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