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  • #122937
    boscohorowitz
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    I’ve recommended this before and here I go again:

    Dreamers Down from the Mountain

    #122938
    boscohorowitz
    Participant
    #122939
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    So I incautiously went ahead and read the article “Finite Feeding Frenzy” by Tom Murphy, to my great aggravation and sorrow.

    The piece was just the pathetic pretentious maundering of yet another sheltered Malthusian Idiot. “Save us from collapse by dismantling everything that keeps us alive and collapsing it before collapse happens and kills us all!” Seriously? I mean how fucking STUPID can ya get? That kind of sheer utterly batshit crazy brain death is really pushing the envelope.

    First off. let’s have a look at the dolt who wrote this tripe:

    “Tom Murphy is a professor of physics at the University of California, San Diego. An amateur astronomer in high school, physics major at Georgia Tech, and PhD student in physics at Caltech, Murphy has spent decades reveling in the study of astrophysics. He currently leads a project to test General Relativity by bouncing laser pulses…”

    A physics professor. Surprise !! In other words, an academic member of an artificially elevated elite, sheltered every day of his life from the irreducible BASICS of real-world actions that are genuinely necessary to keeping a human body alive and well. (i.e. fed, sheltered, clothed, assisted by friends and protected from predators, etc.). Other people did all of those actions FOR the guy. It arrested his intellectual and emotional development, sticking him in childhood. He didn’t have to know how to do ANY of those vital-skill activities himself. Never had to learn them. Never had to do them. Never experienced the reality of those personal skills as being the only things that stood between him and death. In other words, never grew up. In that particular regard he is an infant, or a moron (or both). All he ever HAD to do was give servants a pittance of money and then they would take care of all vital necessities for him. The money, NOT incidentally, which had previously been stolen from those actual producers as taxes or other mandatory “fees” by the folks who overpay the professor’s exorbitant salary. Soft gig. (at least for as long as the slaves are able to keep giving the elite free shit.) “Slavery: the gift of being made to keep on giving”.

    Such luxury comes at a price. The price is that in order to keep the gifts flowing the slave master has to OBEY masters of his own. He had to obey his parents, and then his teachers, and finally his employer (who all in their own turn had to obey their personal set of “superiors” as well.)

    Obey, obey, obey, and that goes ESPECIALLY for the orders slammed down through the chain of command to keep all that good stuff flowing upwards.

    Well those slaves half way to the bottom (who remain healthy enough to still work) may be ignorant, and ugly and recalcitrant as an old mule but there are TWO things that they know better than those cretins at the top : First off, they know that if you destroy the means of producing the NECCESSITIES of life then the production of those vital necessities stops and lots of people die. And the SECOND thing they know that it’s WAY better to die at some unspecified time in the relatively distant future than it is to commit suicide (or be murdered) immediately. You NEVER stop trying to do what it takes to stay alive NOW just because even tougher times may lay ahead.

    Look, y’all. When a new technology starts to supplant an old one, or a vital resource starts to deplete, the solution is NOT to go out and burn down the old stuff that you are STILL and CURRENTLY depending on for life just because the future MAY require a different operating basis than the present. What you’re supposed to do in those circumstances is ADAPT, slowly and cautiously (if CURRENT conditions permit) to the new conditions while gradually phasing out the old ways.

    Humans have done that pretty successfully for a quarter of a million years (or a hell of a lot longer than that if you include older models prior to the latest sapiens sapiens edition)

    Adaptation is what people do. It’s what we’re built for.

    We can even adapt to the situation of some of our species becoming such diabolically insane pampered and incompetent elite morons that they think it’s a GOOD idea to kill everybody. That’s a huge challenge. It’s tricky.

    A large part of that adaptation consists of continuing to live by hook or crook, part of it is tracking back the cancer to its source to excise or reform it, and part of it is refining our information sharing skills so that secret crimes are not so easy and effective to pull off as they have been up ’til now.

    #122940
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    ‘Our planet has been cooling for 50 million years and CO2 levels have been falling in that time, probably causing that cooling trend (as in the graph above).’

    Actually, there is a lot more to it than that.

    The earth (it’s not ours) has been cooling since it formed 4.5 billion years ago. It most of the surface water froze solid around 700 million years ago.

    However, volcanic activity resurrected it from the frozen state.

    Plants reduced the atmospheric CO2 content over several hundred million years, and the average temperature fell.

    There were occasional surges in temperature associated with volcanic activity.

    From the PETM to recent times the temperature ell slowly, as the internal heater -nuclear decay of semi-stable isotopes- slowly reduced the quantity of semi-stable isotopes and generated less heat.

    The natural process of slow overall cooling was interrupted around several decades ago, when the natural systems for removal of atmospheric CO2 were substantially overwhelmed by industrial emissions.

    As industrial emissions take the atmospheric CO2 level further and further from the point of recent historic stability (around 230 ppm) the rate of overheating will increase exponentially.

    The rate of overeating will be greatly amplified by action of positive feedbacks that have been triggered.

    None of the scams promoted by the criminals that constitute governments will have any effect on industrial CO2 emissions, other than to increase them.

    #122941
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    The Earth (it’s not ours) has been cooling since it formed 4.5 billion…

    I’m going to dig some earth now.

    #122942
    John Day
    Participant

    “Google Censors Mass Murder” is up, with a pretty picture of the finished closet. https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/google-censors-mass-murder

    I got a notification from Google-Blogger the night before last that “Stopping”, the November 28 post on http://www.johndayblog.com had been deleted due to “violation of community guidelines”. It is still available on the mirror Substack blog, which has not been censored https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/stopping
    This blog post opens with excerpts from another blog, which states that the increase in “excess deaths”, clearly due to COVID-19 gene-therapy “vaccine” products is “mass murder”. I have been getting away with referring to it as “culling the human herd” by the “owners”, which is not the name of a felony.

    Elon Musk has been exploring the intricacies of censorship in social media recently. There is a lot more to come.

    Until Spring of 2016 I just sent out my news email via bcc to about 200 friends. As I posted stories about the disenfranchisement of Bernie Sanders supporters in the Democratic primaries, my emails kept getting blocked and blocked , no matter how I tried to comply, so I got a blog, a Google blog, and it was not censored. I kept doing the bcc sends, too, and they all went through from 3 days after the November 2016 election, until shortly before the 2018 midterm elections. It happened again in 2020, of course, with the same pattern.
    On February 22 of this year I posted about the Ukraine situation, and both my blog, and our email (since 2005) were promptly removed by Google. We eventually got our email back, and a couple of weeks later Google replaced the blog post “Two New Countries”, which had just preceded the Russian “special military operation” commencing. https://www.johndayblog.com/2022/02/two-new-countries.html The “community guidelines” probably got revised in that time.
    “Alternative Arrangements” was my first post on the new Substack blog, and tells the story in detail. https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/alternative-arrangements

    I now have 3 blog posts which Google-Blogger has deactivated-pending-my-revision, or now “deleted” in the case of “Stopping”. “Stopping” does sort-of assert that our bureaucratic institutions are conspiring to commit an ongoing felony via medical injections variously recommended and mandated by governmental agencies.
    Some might consider that expressing such a political opinion should be protected by the first amendment of the US Constitution, as “free speech”. Google, a private corporation at the global scale is not the federal government, nor is it the Chinese, Canadian, EU, Australian or New Zealand government, but it is directed by these governments to recognize “disinformation” and to censor it, so that people-don’t-suffer-harm…
    I have read that in the US it is just as constitutionally prohibited for the government to protect a private entity to censor what it would be illegal for the government to directly censor. That stands to reason.
    This might possibly make it to the US courts next year, if some big emergency does not happen first.

    Everybody Knew CV-19 Vax Was a Criminal Bioweapon – Karen Kingston
    Karen Kingston is a biotech analyst and former Pfizer employee who has researched and written about many aspects of the so-called CV19 vaccines. Kingston has uncovered documents that prove everybody knew or should have known the deadly effects of these criminal injections…
    ..Kingston says documents with the drug makers, FDA and CDC listed the deadly and debilitating “side effects” of the injections. Kinston shows that vaccine makers gave a list to the FDA of “side effects” or “possible adverse event outcomes” from the injections. Kinston says, “Common side effects should be muscle aches, headaches, fever and pain. With these injections, common side effects are Guillain-Barre, . . . inflammation of your brain and your spinal cord, meningitis, stroke, narcolepsy, anaphylaxis, heart attack, myocarditis, pericarditis, auto immune disease, death, pregnancy and birth outcomes, fetal injuries, fetal mutations, spontaneous abortion. . . and vaccine enhanced disease​”​. . . . So, they knew this was not mild side effects.

    Everybody Knew CV-19 Vax Was a Criminal Bioweapon – Karen Kingston

    #122943
    John Day
    Participant

    Australia Concerned As People Dying At ‘Incredibly High’ Pace And It Can’t Tell Why
    ​ ​13% was an “incredibly high number for mortality,” and it was “not clear” what was driving the increase, said Karen Cutter, spokeswoman for the institute’s Covid-19 Mortality Working Group.​ ​”Mortality doesn’t normally vary by more than 1 to 2%, so 13% is way higher than normal levels,” she said.
    https://www.benzinga.com/news/22/12/29988165/australia-concerned-as-people-dying-at-incredibly-high-pace-and-it-cant-tell-why

    ​ British Medical Journal (BMJ)​
    COVID-19 vaccine boosters for young adults: a risk benefit assessment and ethical analysis of mandate policies at universities
    ​ Conclusion: Based on public data provided by the CDC,19 we estimate that in the fall of 2022 at least 31 207–42 836 young adults aged 18–29 years must be boosted with an mRNA vaccine to prevent one Omicron-related COVID-19 hospitalisation over 6 months. Given the fact that this estimate does not take into account the protection conferred by prior infection or a risk adjustment for comorbidity status, this should be considered a conservative and optimistic assessment of benefit. Our estimate shows that university COVID-19 vaccine mandates are likely to cause net expected harms to young healthy adults—for each hospitalisation averted we estimate approximately 18.5 SAEs and 1430–4626 disruptions of daily activities—that is not outweighed by a proportionate public health benefit. Serious COVID-19 vaccine-associated harms are not adequately compensated for by current US vaccine injury systems. As such, these severe infringements of individual liberty and human rights are ethically unjustifiable.
    https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2022/12/05/jme-2022-108449

    ​ Tessa (fights robots) Lena interviews Attorney who opposed New York’s COVID (no way out) Quarantine Camps
    Isolation Camps in New York State: Tyrants Plan to Appeal​
    ​The attorney who filed a lawsuit against the unconstitutional regulation — and won — is Bobbie Anne Cox, a seasoned New York lawyer who has been practicing in the area of property tax law for nearly 25 years.
    ​ ​Early on, she became outspoken about the “COVD measures” by the former New York State governor Andrew Cuomo. When Bobbie Anne first found out about the New York isolation camp regulation, she rubbed her eyes — but it was there, and it was real.
    ​ ​Bobbie Anne started talking to other attorneys, and many attorneys recommended to wait until the authorities start pulling people out of their homes and throwing them into camps — and file a lawsuit then. But she couldn’t wait for the ugly, and after putting in a lot of hard work and legal research into how one could file such an unprecedented lawsuit, she figured out an angle, which was “separation of powers.”
    ​ ​As a result, she won, and the brave NYS Supreme Court Judge Ronald Ploetz struck the regulation down (court decision).

    Isolation Camps in New York State: Tyrants Plan to Appeal

    #122944
    John Day
    Participant

    New Zealand Court Takes Away Custody of Sick Infant from Parents After They Refuse ‘Vaccinated’ Blood

    New Zealand Court Takes Away Custody of Sick Infant from Parents After They Refuse ‘Vaccinated’ Blood

    UK PM Rishi Sunak Calls For New Police Powers To Stop “Illegal Protests”
    The prime minister states: “My view is that those who break the law should feel the full force of it.”​ (Machine-guns, then​ Rishi, like before, in India​?)
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uk-pm-rishi-sunak-calls-new-police-powers-stop-illegal-protests

    Professor Anthony Hall makes the case for “truth before reconciliation”.
    No Amnesty without Accountability for COVID Crimes: Looking Into and Beyond Canada’s Emergency Act Inquiry

    No Amnesty without Accountability for COVID Crimes: Looking Into and Beyond Canada’s Emergency Act Inquiry

    ​Paul Craig Roberts: ​The beliefs that made us free by restraining government power and holding it accountable are everywhere under attack.
    We are being dehumanized by fascism, which makes it easier to dispose of us. For example, the liberal city government of San Francisco on November 29, 2022, by a vote of 8 to 3 gave robots the right to kill humans. San Francisco will now employ killer robots as members of its police force.
    In the United States today free speech is said to be a threat to democracy if it dissents from official explanations. There is talk about criminalizing “misinformation.”

    We Are Being Put in Chains. Criminalizing “Misinformation”. Dehumanized by Unfolding Fascism

    ​Not the look they wanted, after all?
    ​ ​In a stunning 8-to-3 vote yesterday, the San Francisco Board of Supervisors banned the SFPD from using deadly force with remote-controlled robots. The Board also sent the killer robot policy back to its Rules Committee for revisions and more public comment. This is a big reversal: just one week ago, the Board voted 8-3 to authorize the SFPD to use these killer robots.

    Victory! San Francisco Bans Police “Killer Robots”…For Now

    #122945
    John Day
    Participant

    ​Pentagon Papers whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg on Tuesday dared U.S. prosecutors to come after him like they have Julian Assange by revealing in a BBC News interview that the WikiLeaks publisher sent him a backup of leaked materials from former military analyst Chelsea Manning.
    ​ ​”Let me tell you a secret. I had possession of all the Chelsea Manning information before it came out in the press,” Ellsberg said to BBC’s Stephen Sackur in the on-camera interview.
    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/12/07/revealing-he-too-had-manning-leaks-ellsberg-dares-doj-prosecute-him-assange

    ​ How much physical cash to hold?
    Nigeria Limits ATM Withdrawals To $45 Per Day To Force Govt-Controlled Digital Payments
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nigeria-limits-atm-withdrawals-45-day-force-digital-payments

    ​ I hope Ghana has made arrangements for protection.​ It seems like they would have to be protected before doing this.
    Ghana to Buy Oil with Gold Instead of USD. Next for US-led Coup?

    Ghana to Buy Oil with Gold Instead of USD. Next for US-led Coup?

    #122946
    oldandtired
    Participant

    @phoenixvoice

    Also. I don’t believe any violence was perpetrated against the Federal Agents that went to people’s houses to arrest them long after January 6? They went along willingly, or at least without putting up any resistance. They were located by their personal data- that stuff that is personal? You know, private? Until the companies that you pay for services- cell phone, credit card, your bank coordinate and give all of your personal information to the government in order for you to be tracked down, arrested, and held without charges. In prison. In solitary confinement.

    I cannot believe this all happened. In the USA.

    #122947
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “I cannot believe this all happened. In the USA.”

    I can. It was apparent when the GFC happened in 2008. The country was bankrupt and those who rule us did everything they could to bail themselves out. They speak platitudes of freedom and so forth and then act in the opposite manner and have no qualms about it. We were always going to end up where we are after 2008. Some people wonder how all these companies are going woke and continuing to make money, well if .gov bails you out every time you need it, do you really need customers? Will you ever push back against .gov, only the very brave or insane ever bite the hand that feeds. Most people are cowards and if you scare them long enough will go along with whatever you tell them.

    #122948
    Mr. House
    Participant

    If you’re willing to unleash a virus, hype it up to scare the shit out of people, all because the finance system which is your key to power over the entire world was going to blow up again and show that you’re not wearing any clothes, what aren’t you willing to do?

    the ends justify the means and blah blah blah

    #122949
    WES
    Participant

    Gurusid:

    Yes, many people do not realize how complicated managing a power grid is.
    I used to work building large electric shovels and draglines for mines.
    Before we could power up these large machines, the mine and local power company first had to prepare for this event.

    Power companies always put restrictions on the mines as to what the mine load reflected back into the power companies’ grid looks like. Often the mine had to take corrective actions before the power company would connect power to the mine. Surprisingly harmonics was a real big issue (and for very good reasons!).

    Connecting a new electric shovel or dragging was a big event for the local power company. During initial powering up of new machines, I often knocked out local substations and power to local towns. Ideally we had radio contact between the mine and the local power company so there were people pre-positioned at critical points ready to quickly make the necessary power adjustments required to reduce start up power outages to just a few minutes.

    Sadly, I also experienced the opposite situation where upon hitting the start button, I knocked out power to the entire mine not to mention to all of the local towns too! Then I would get a nasty phone call from the local power company wondering WTF I was doing (by just suddenly adding a town of 20,000 people to their power grid without first telling them about it)!

    Once we were through this start up phase, then starting up these new machines no longer knock out power again. Yes, the good olde days of my youth!

    #122950
    Autonomous Unit
    Participant

    I worked at a pizza place with electric ovens. There was a plaque on the wall that read ” Turn ovens on at 20 minutes interval”
    I was told that on the first day of operation, they turned all three ovens on at once, 60,000 watts. The power company knew who to call. They said “DON’T DO THAT!”

    #122951
    Autonomous Unit
    Participant

    D Benton Smith-

    I read that article, “finite feeding frenzy”.
    I have a question for you. Where does Mr Murphy advocate killing everyone? Or, if that is just your supposition that killing everyone would be the result of what Mr Murphy advocates, what exactly is he advocating? I presume that you think Murphy wants us to stop using fossils fuels immediately. It seems to me that he is just saying some resources are finite.
    Please feel free to cut and paste from the article to help elucidate me.

    Finite Feeding Frenzy

    #122952
    jb-hb
    Participant

    When guitarists want to use an amp to rock out without deafening the neighborhood, it is necessary to use a load box – to take the load a speaker would have taken. No speaker OR load box…. problems. I feel like I totally and completely understand the power grid when I visualize it as a 1.21 gigawatts guitar amp.

    #122953
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    Afewknowthetruth wrote, “By the way, I hate today’s artwork. Too much blue-and-yellow. Thoroughly sick of blue-and-yellow.”

    Me too, especially the way it’s constantly thrust in front of us. But the national colours of Sweden are also blue and yellow. I wonder how they feel? Not that there’s a lot of choice in colours for flags, unless we enlarge the palette by using mixtures such as salmon pink or steel grey or cack brown. Etc.

    From yesterday, a bit more re New Zealand a.k.a. “The Land of the Long White Cloud.” I’ve heard that parodied as “The Land of the Wrong White Crowd.” One could say something similar about its near neighbour, Australia. The European plunder machine has been harsh and unmerciful in how it uses both countries.

    #122954
    WES
    Participant

    It is said the British had a penal colony to fit every crime!

    If you married for love instead of money, you got a one way trip to Canada to cool off!
    If they didn’t like your politics or religion, you got sent to the 13 Colonies!
    If you stole a rabbit from the Lord’s private game preserve, you got sent to Botany Bay!
    Not sure what crime entitled you to go to New Zealand though.

    #122955
    aspnaz
    Participant

    An enlightening speaker today was Josh Stirling, a highly-recognized insurance research analyst. And what he brought forth was “the one chart that tells the entire story.”

    The chart tells us nothing. Looking at the chart you would have to assume that the majority of people at an age near the end of the average life span, mostly had one jab, some had two etc. In other words, all this tells us is that the majority of old biddies had been jabbed before they popped their cloggs. Well? Why is this of interest? A much more interesting chart would be one that showed the rate of pre-average life span deaths, by age group.

    #122956
    Germ
    Participant

    Evidence of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein on retrieved thrombi from COVID-19 patients

    “These data could support the hypothesis that free SP, besides the whole virus, may be the trigger of platelet activation and clot formation in COVID-19.”

    https://jhoonline.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13045-022-01329-w

    So there you have it – Spike Protein alone causes thrombi.

    Imagine turning your body into a spike factory with an mRNA death vaxx!

    TVASF

    ☠️☠️☠️

    #122957
    Germ
    Participant

    This moron is Sterling Professor of Social and Natural Science at Yale and a Physician.

    Chy-naaa is laughing so hard!

    TVASF

    #122958
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Dr D said

    The point here is that maniacs are always trying to nuke each other and kill all of us, and we need to both expose them with appropriate oversight, and halt Dr. Strangelove back to reason. We have all abdicated our responsibility. Both to our nations, our children, to ourselves, but also to such mentally ill so they don’t harm themselves and others.

    I like that sentence “We have all abdicated our responsibility.” as it makes me think of the saying “Hard time create strong men, good times breed weak men” etc. Maybe the hard times are the result of people abdicating their responsibilities as meeting your responsibilities requires strong men.

    When I think of the people who took the jab, they abdicated their responsibility for maintaining their own health, they handed that responsibility to the government and they are now paying the price. N.B. I understand that some people were heavily pressured, even effectively forced, into taking the jab.

    I am now thinking of areas where I may have abdicated my responsibilities, in the process making my life easier but making me weaker, and where I need to pick up those responsibilities to regain strength. For example, you could view the act of going off grid or prepping as the act of taking on more responsibility – such as the responsibility to grow your own food – to make oneself stronger.

    #122959
    WES
    Participant

    Aspnaz:

    To save Granny;

    The government legally took away her medical rights by committing her to a nursing home.
    The government then banned Granny’s family from visiting her to find out what was going on.
    Granny was vaxxed and boosted to maximize government covid vax bounty payments.
    Then the government killed off both Granny’s children and grandchildren.
    The government banned groups of people thus sparing Granny from attending any family funerals.
    Granny is hospitalized and injected with “Rundeathisnear” to drain the last money out of her.
    Then Granny died suddenly, unexpectedly, in her sleep, earning the hospital $30,000 covid death benefit.

    #122960
    Redneck
    Participant

    BOSCO
    “Convicts are usually used to fight wars. Many ‘volunteers’ are convicted criminals given a choice of jail or war.”

    “It’s a similar situation as when during GWOT the CIA outsourced its torture to Third World client states.”

    Just saying that Russia and Russians are no better or more moral than we are.

    This episode of Putin’s chef , Proghozin sending the blood stained hammer used to murder …….to the EU court is another example. Meanwhile Mr. Law and Morality Putin turns his head the other way , this man was a Russian citizen and Putin let his oligarch mate torture and murder him.
    If you want to kill a person unlawfully as an act of revenge, surely a bullet through the brain will do it , why the torture and crushing the skull with a hammer? This man was a Russian after all.

    https://antiempire.substack.com/p/putin-talks-free-fertilizer-for-hungry?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

    #122961
    Redneck
    Participant

    The annexation of the Eastern oblasts has become a huge source of humiliation for Putin and Russia. The hubris displayed when declaring these territories to be Mother Russia when the Ukrainians were poised to take it back in just forty days is almost beyond belief.
    What is wrong with Russian intel?
    From the beginning of the war the FSB have been in failure mode. Such was the hubris of FSB officers that they had already booked restaurants and apartments in Kiev for their successful takeover of the capital and the ousting of Zelensky however they never made it into the city as the Ukrainian resistance overwhelmed the elite Russian strike force.
    Why hasn’t the FSB’s hierarchy been cut to pieces for it’s continual failures?
    Is Putin afraid to put too many of them offside? Is he afraid of a coup ?

    “On September 30th Putin announced Kherson was now Russia and threw a big party in Moscow. 40 days later Russia was pulling out.

    Great powers do have the tendency to ultimately betray the locals who take their side in a difficult and messy conflict. But that usually happens after 10 or 15 years of fighting. Putin’s Russia did it after 6 weeks. It was a jet-powered stab in the back.
    To be a Russian and to swallow official state truths “vaccination will be voluntary”, “war is unthinkable”, “mobilization is not on the agenda”, “we’re staying in Kherson forever” can be literally life-threatening. Critical thinking and distrust of the government is a skill that in the Russian World can be critical just to bare survival.

    It is also quite absurd that for the longest time Moscow couldn’t articulate to the people what the war was for or about, and then when it finally seemed to have figured out something moderately convincing and inspiring it lasted all of five seconds. — That’s how long it took for anyone who bought into it to the west side of the Dnieper to be unceremoniously stabbed in the back.”

    https://antiempire.substack.com/p/trusting-the-plan-in-the-russian?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

    #122962
    Oroboros
    Participant

    #122963
    Redneck
    Participant

    “One could say something similar about its near neighbour, Australia. The European plunder machine has been harsh and unmerciful in how it uses both countries.”

    If Europeans had not taken over , most peoples would still be eating each other , LOL.

    Australian black fellas would have no cigis or grog and would have to get up every day and go to the work of survive or die by hunting and gathering.
    Why do you think not one black fella in Australia is still living the traditional Stone Age life , not one?
    There is nothing to stop them returning to their old traditional life. The Pitinjarra lands covers thousands of square kilometers but not one indigenous still live the old way?
    WHY?
    Coz it is too fuckin brutal!
    Aborigines still live shorter lives and have a higher mortality rate than non indigenous, how do you think is was back before the Europeans arrived?
    All this talk about how brutal the Europeans have been is just more lefty virtue signalling.
    Before the Europeans the world was a much more harsh and brutal place.
    Maya temple inaugurations were consecrated by ripping the hearts out of twenty thousand people and eating their body parts, what is so wonderful about that?
    Who wants to go back there?
    NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    But white fella so bad!!!!!!!!!!

    #122964
    Redneck
    Participant

    You all are a bit unlucky as I am hose bound for a week or so after having a skin cancer removed from my foot.
    So many years in the surf and sun has consequences.
    It is all stitched up but mobility is really restricted so will have to kill time.
    How will I do that????????

    #122965
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @AutonomousUnit

    Mr Murphy doesn’t himself directly advocate killing anybody, but he’s very much part of (wittingly or unwittingly) the sets and staging of psychological manipulations designed to make people easier marks for others to do the direct physical damage. In Murphy’s case I reckon that he’s just an unwitting accomplice (dupe) who more or less believes believes his own malarkey, partly because he’s being paid so well to do so.

    In the jargon of Carnival hucksters Murphy’s job is called shill. The shill doesn’t fleece the mark. The shill just manipulates the mark’s thinking by misdirecting the victim’s attention and feeding in lies, damned lies statistics and faked up visual aids. . . all aimed at selling a fatal “solution” (the huckster actual objective) that was decided upon LONG beforehand.

    We don’t need to speculate about what those solutions are. They are the dismantlement of our heretofore working installation. The SOLUTIONS are the problem. Murphy’s fatally flawed pseudo analysis is just an example of how it’s done.

    #122966
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Cokewhore of the Year, the Presidementia Worthless Spawn

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjZGUEeXwA0NiKK?format=jpg&name=small

    #122967
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #122968
    zerosum
    Participant

    Redneck, tell us how good tomorrow will be when all war museum inventories will be destroyed.
    Will humans still be motivated to fight with slingshots?
    Wil there still be violation of the 10 commandments?

    #122969
    SeaBirds
    Participant

    @Afewknowthetruth #122922

    You’re brave! I can’t bear to look at the scorpion, with or without makeup. Or listen to its voice. A question for you, as you’re obviously well acquainted with the UK: would you advise, in this day and age, living in the UK or remaining in the land of the scorpion? We’re inclined to go back, but suspect things are deteriorating there, even if freedoms, for the moment, may remain in place longer than here in Aotearoa. It’s a hard call!

    #122970
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @Redneck

    I’m sure that many of us here pray for the speediest possible healing of your foot.

    #122971
    WES
    Participant

    Redneck:

    It might amuse you to learn that when Napoleon entered the city of Moscow, the Russians emptied all the prisons and told them to go out and loot and burn all they wanted!

    French troops initially actually tried to round up and stop them from looting and burning Moscow!

    #122972
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    I hadn’t known that the Mormons had upgraded:

    Conference Center

    #122973
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    I learned today that Ukraine’s flag is blue and yellow. (I work hard to ignore that stuff.) One can view the following either as a redemption of the blue/yellow color scheme, or Zelensky’s monetary theme song:

    Silver, Blue and Gold

    ***

    “If Europeans had not taken over , most peoples would still be eating each other , LOL.”

    Is it that stupid or that evil? Is it sincerely deranged or paid to act like it? Or just another dumb bot? *sigh* Remember when a troll at least had a reliably human face hiding somewhere down there in its parents’ basement?

    The good old days.

    Will some of it be spent here getting its virtual ass kicked? Whether the Dunning-Kruger effect it displays is a matter of natural ignorant maliciousness or the kind of blindness that only money can buy, who can say? Me, I think it’s a paid troll. But then, it depresses me to think that a person would sincerely believe such jive.

    Real Rednecks Don’t Call Themselves Rednecks

    ***

    On covid and das vakzines: it’s over. Those who are willing to get jabbed are jabbed; those who aren’t, aren’t. One way or another, the scat is out of the bag, and every day we see more evidence of CYA becoming more important than Make More $$ or Keep Your Cushy Job.

    Are Elon’s maneuvers facilitating this transition sincere, or merely self-serving, or an act of allegiance to TPTB…??? I’ll note that the middle, self-serving option includes the possibility that he has seen VAIDS and it scared him. From what I know of Elon, I’d guess it’s an equal blend of all 3 but mostly 1 & 2: surely he knows that the current regime is going down.

    ANYway… once a crusade begins to gather real momentum, the war has already been won, and now all that’s left is revenge. You know, that ‘serving of justice’ we speak so highly of and take so seriously even though it so rarely happens, and it usually serves a cure worse than the disease.

    Big Pharm/Big Gov Medical Acronyms will back off, moonwalking to make it look like they’re not heading for the exit, new political alliances will form over the populist outrage over the horrible truth and mounting death toll. A few heads may roll, including the physical kind. But mostly we will increasingly be too busy struggling with each other to get along and keep others from stealing what we won’t share.

    But, to quote an aging political humorist: “That’s just my opinion. I could be wrong.”

    #122974
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    ‘Will some of its … time…’

    #122975
    sinnycool
    Participant

    @ D Benton Smith

    I’ve been reading Tom Murphy since he started posting very many years ago. If you take the trouble to look at some of his earlier work you will see he has completed a 180 degree turnaround over that time as he came to realise that the original hopes and dreams he had back then – of finding technological solutions to our major dilemmas – was simply not possible.

    So many ‘Greens’ (and I was one) thought the world could be saved by screwing in a bunch of govt subsidised fluro light bulbs and using recycle bins, and so many remain fixated on continuing business as usual by driving a MuskMobile – moving along from the Prius – and charging it and running their multi-multi-kilowatt house from a dozen solar panels and a 2KWHour battery made from stuff we choose not to care about.

    Technology as we know it is a large net CONSUMER of energy and every technological step we take, starting from the single copper wire telegraph line across the country which gave us a massive return on investment, to 3G, 4G and now 5G, adds further layers to the complexity onion that offer almost zero extra return on massively complex and fragile systems we completely depend on for everything including war.

    There is no fallback. If it goes there is no neat downward staircase, it’s straight collapse of everything exactly as Joseph Tainter describes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Tainter

    Your emotional and bitter denial of Tom Murphy is understandable when you find yourself facing what is going to be faced, same as the rest of the planet’s population.

    The *real* problem is Maslow’s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow’s_hierarchy_of_needs. To even spare the few minutes necessary to worry about the future of civilisation requires people to be at least five levels from the bottom. As people’s needs grow along with conflict and overpopulation and climate impact and food impact, they discount the future.

    When you are physically facing no food and no shelter all you care about is now, you are willing to burn cow dung for energy, forget about coal, and do whatever is needed to survive. That is our future.

    #122976
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Testing…

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