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    René Magritte The muscles of the sky 1927   • “This Might Be The Biggest Fraud In History” (ZH) • Musk’s DOGE Seeking Access To IRS Taxpayer Data
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle February 18 2025]

    #182492
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    February 18, 2025 at 12:29 am#182467

    citizenx

    Thank you for taking your time and effort in this response, much of which I basically agree. The burr under the saddle: I attempt to write clearly, concisely and accurately to give a specific focus to my remarks., the intent being the focus. When those remarks are dissected and whatever mental noise going on in the head of the interlocutor changes that focus; renders that focus on unintended tangents or assumes positions never in existence. The final remark of mine you highlighted was solely focused on the future perceived of this Trump administration, nothing to do with the prior occupant of the White House who I have less than no regard (the bastard is 90 days older than me and if that is in my future I’m terrified). I attribute reading comprehension, critical thinking and faulty analysis to these happenings. I’n not paid sufficiently to educate such deficits and do not engage often at such sites. Ageing macular degeneration makes writing and editing a time consuming task. Any way, this is to acknowledge your remarks.
    Today begins my 83rd orbit

    #182494

    HappyBday T Bear

    #182495
    poppie
    Participant

    formerly t bear. I am sorry for my rudeness. I will try to do better. Happy birthday.

    #182496
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Formerly T-Bear. I hope you have a great 83rd wheel around the sun. So much to ponder and much to be grateful. I have been grateful for your contributions over these many years on this forum.

    Also. JD V talking big game on US freedom of speech which they revealed was a crock of bull with the twitter files which were also basically screen shots of redacted shit.
    Also that the US gov was responsible for global censorship and outright fraud and crimes against humanity with (according to Dennis Rancourt and others) 17 million deaths from a fake sniffle plague.

    Europe don’t look that censorious to me after having lived through oh say for example Chris Martenson using the term dwivobitz to refer to Ivermectin so his channel did not get shut down.
    Doctor Berg with 11 million subscribers – scrubbed for not going along with unvaccinated hatred.
    Russel Brand moving to Rumble as he was banned.
    I mean the US just literally censored the goddamed entire internet and shut down the worlds economies with scams threats and lies. And those African politicians killed themselves.
    JD Vance can suck my cock and eat shit. Lying piece of shit. Another politician and another day of Warp Speed mafia infighting.
    JD V is now talking directly to CJ Hopkins and Eugypius. I was talking directly to them during covid and he was nowhere to be found. If they would chat with a total nobody like me then why did he have so much trouble getting through the crush? Guess it’s just chill when you are in power and have heaps more time on your hands.

    Funny how that works. I can feel his stink on my shirt as he tried to rub our credibility cologne all over himself but only cause Palantir is telling his harvard arse to do what the algo suggests.
    Elon Musk removed Palestinian comic with 3 million followers from x
    Elon Musk removed Kanye West for him posting a picture of him on a yacht hanging with Ari Emmanuel of ‘ My dad is a literal murderer and named terrorist for the state of Israel’ fame.
    America made hollywood and tells stories about itself being the liberator but from out here in the wilderness all they seem to be is lawless bullies and thieves.

    Prolly why I’m more of a lurker these days. The US is just a story told by little children. I am starting to get the feel for real life.

    Sorry but the shadow puppets are annoying me more than usual tonight.

    #182497
    zerosum
    Participant

    You can’t reason with people.
    hunt for waste, fraud, and abuse. $36 Trillion
    bringing to heel an out-of-control government bureaucracy that will surely lead to this country’s destruction if not reined in.
    Reality distortion is no longer working so well with Mr. Trump in the White House.

    USA- Russia Peace talk, Cease Fire. Stop the Killing, Stop the destruction. Stop the conflict.

    • Ukraine Has No Bargaining Power in US-Russia Peace Talks (Sp.)
    • Macron’s Ukraine Summit A Gathering of ‘Warmongers’ – Hungary FM (RT)
    • Munich Conference ‘A Nightmare’ – Organizer (RT)
    • J.D. Vance Delivers a Historic Defense of Free Speech (Turley)
    Before we further commit to the defense of Europe, he argued, we should agree on what we are defending.

    (spending for attacking is not the same as spending for defending)

    ” India is not neutral.
    We have taken a side,
    and we have taken the side of peace…
    We will work together to enhance peace, stability, and prosperity in the Indo-Pacific,” – Modi

    Unfunded financial commitments are so large they will only be paid in a massively weakened currency if the current economic policies continue.

    #182498
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    24:19

    if you don’t understand what’s happening
    in America today the revolution that is
    taking place uh the Trump Revolution
    then you’re just totally out of touch he
    has dramatically transformed the way
    things work he spent four years learning
    the hard way about how uh The
    Establishment will undermine him and
    oppose him and and and seek to undercut
    everything he tries to do that he spent
    four years surviving the lawfare being
    waged against him by The Establishment
    he’s now the president and he has
    identified every piece of the puzzle
    that needs to be eliminated and he’s in
    the process of eliminating them and this
    is revolutionary and as I believe he
    will successfully remove the impediments
    to
    uh strategic disarm it the the first
    thing though is he has to get the
    Russians to play ball this is why this
    meeting in Riad tomorrow is so
    important this is also why you and I
    both believe that ah Trump X and Putin
    can be another Yola I mean this can be
    another big picture resolution of many
    many many issues military political
    geopolitical cultural social
    commercial there there is the chance and
    again I just finished …

    #182499
    citizenx
    Participant

    Today begins my 83rd orbit

    Right on T-Bear, Happy Birthday !
    Enjoy each and every moment.

    These past 5 years, in particular, have taken a toll on us all, one way or another.
    What I wish for most, is a happy healthy society where truth and honesty lead the masses.
    I strive daily to find courage and strength to be a better human, some days are tougher than others, but my commitment for inner peace does not waver regardless.

    Having studied many revolutions, wars and civil wars throughout history, French, Germany WW2, American, Russian, Chinese cultural, Vietnam, Cambodia, Spanish to name a few… The turn of events and policies from the US govt, particularly from the left these past years far surpassed what I thought could be possible in my own country, by my own govt, and my fellow citizens. Horrific from my viewpoint.

    Orwell traveled to Spain to write about the Spanish Civil war as it was happening. He took up arms against Franco, was wounded, and later wrote 1984 which was heavily influenced by his experiences during the conflict.

    Humanity has reached an apex to put a stop to the global abuses and crimes against humanity committed during Covid, a breaking point for many that just went way too far. I could not fathom that my own neighbors would go ‘covid cult’ insane, but they did.

    I realized we were all in deep shit when the experimental vax was force mandated on the world. It was particularly bad here in Seattle, where the true believers went literally insane. Several people suggested making a fake vax card- just so I could have a job and get back to employment.

    When propaganda took hold on society, and my fellow citizens were checking other citizens for their vax papers…I realized it was an act of war against humanity by my govt and neighbors. Especially knowing the vax was neither safe nor effective at stopping transmission.

    The entire time Seattle excluded anyone not vaxd from a job, or going into a restaurant or other public spaces, I was lucky to find employment- and I was tasked, by my local and federal govt, with checking everyone who walked through the doors for their “vax papers’.

    During that entire time- I never once asked anyone to show me their vax cards- the scariest and most fucked up part of it all ?

    I watched guests walk in with their arms held high proudly waving their papers, every single guest that entered immediately pulled out their papers showing them- occasionally they would say “oh you need to see my vax card” , I said nothing, and out came their papers….totally unsolicited.

    There were a few occasions that guests called the business, stating that they did not see or hear me asking to see vax cards, times when employees would turn away guests -” oh you’re not fully vaccinated, you need to leave”

    Huxley’s Brave new world was correct- society would literally beg for their own enslavement, their own obedience, their own loss of freedom… and they will torture, abuse and kill, if need be, to show their subservience.

    Hence for whatever perceived or real faults of Trump/ Vance/ Musk- that tide has turned. Free speech, no censorship, end the govt big brother overlords. For that I am grateful. But a sadness lingers within myself, at what society, so easily manipulated by fear and ignorance, became.

    It has also ignited a fire within myself, to fight, resist and never again be bullied or abused by my neighbors or govt- I will defend my life, with my life- and I now fully know that evil exists in sheep, cowards, liars and manipulators- for I am surrounded by them. They are dangerous and mentally unstable, and they can never be trusted to make good decisions.

    I hope this sheds some light on my true nature and intentions.
    With peace and truth.

    ..

    Top Oncologist Warns of ‘Horrendous’ Surge in Cancers Among Covid-Vaccinated

    Top Oncologist Warns of ‘Horrendous’ Surge in Cancers Among Covid-Vaccinated

    Prescription Drugs Side Effects Compilation

    mRNA ‘Vaccines’ Cause Immune System to Surrender to Deadly Disease, Top Scientists Warn

    mRNA ‘Vaccines’ Cause Immune System to Surrender to Deadly Disease, Top Scientists Warn

    Yes, the vaxd are seriously f’d and seriously dying.

    #182500
    John Day
    Participant

    Peace Ambush https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/peace-ambush

    The thorough and detailed planning by Team Trump, for assaults in all directions, mostly with commando brigades behind the lines, has revealed massive financial fraud within US government agencies, of the order of magnitude to allow balancing the Federal budget, while putting Foreign Secretaries of the US and Russia in Riyadh Saudi Arabia to make some form of peace in Ukraine.
    Zelensky and his wife were in UAE, where he signed a free-trade deal between Ukraine and UAE, which will allow him to securely and discretely transfer any amount of money there and buy UAE companies. Other Ukrainians can, too, including his wife, who might not hurry back to Ukraine. Ukrainian lines are folding against Russian forces.
    Putin and Trump will meet in Riyadh in person by the end of this short month, within 11 days (as reported only by Dima at Military Summary).
    Zelensky is now in Turkey.
    European heads of state met emergently in Paris to make war plans, but couldn’t, so they didn’t. They went home quietly. Sorry European old-money ;-(
    Will the Arab-States talks in Riyadh this week happen to make a deal for a 2-state solution while foreign secretaries of Russia and the US are in town?
    It’s a fair question, right? Trump’s Mideast Envoy, Steve Witkoff will be there…

    He is not saying what he knows, is he? Russian FM outlines key goal for talks with US
    A Russian team will hold talks with the US in Saudi Arabia primarily in order to find out what is being proposed by the administration of US President Donald Trump to settle the Ukraine conflict, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has confirmed.
    On Monday, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov announced that Lavrov and Yury Ushakov, President Vladimir Putin’s top foreign policy aide, will head to Riyadh to meet with Trump officials to prepare the ground for an upcoming meeting of the two leaders. According to Peskov, the talks will also be devoted to the restoration of bilateral relations.
    The development came after Putin and Trump held a 90-minute phone call last week which revolved around settling the Ukraine conflict.
    Asked about his expectations for the talks, Lavrov said that “when we go to negotiations on the proposal of our partners, first of all, we always want to hear them out.” He also noted that Trump and Putin agreed to leave behind “an absolutely abnormal period” in relations between the countries, which have barely communicated over the past three years.
    “The presidents agreed that it is necessary to resume dialogue on all issues that can be resolved one way or another with the participation of Russia and the US… Therefore, we will listen to our American counterparts and, of course, we will be ready to respond. Then we will report to our leaders who will take decisions on future steps,” the minister said… Moscow has stressed that it seeks a permanent solution to the conflict rather than a temporary ceasefire. https://swentr.site/russia/612848-lavrov-talks-riyadh-ukraine/

    Thursday: Saudi Arabia has revealed it plans to host leaders of four Arab countries at a summit on February 20 to consider President Donald Trump’s US ‘takeover’ plan for the Gaza Strip, officials told AFP Friday. “The leaders of Egypt, Jordan, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates will attend the summit, to take place ahead of an Arab League meeting in Cairo one week later on the same issue, the source said.” https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/saudi-arabia-host-arab-summit-discuss-trumps-gaza-takeover-plan

    Ukraine not invited to Russia-US talks – Zelensky https://swentr.site/news/612798-ukraine-not-invited-zelensky/

    US, Russia To Hold Peace Talks In Saudi Arabia Without Ukraine, Even As Zelensky Visits Gulf
    European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has warned on X that “Europe’s security is at a turning point.” She continued in the statement she wrote while arriving in Paris for “crucial talks” with European counterparts on the Russia-Ukraine war, “Yes, it is about Ukraine – but it is also about us.” (or maybe not really)
    “We need an urgency mindset. We need a surge in defense,” she wrote. “And we need both of them now.” …
    ..Talks will be held in Saudi Arabia, expected to kick off Tuesday, between Russian and American diplomats. Both sides have confirmed the talks:
    Moscow has confirmed that Russian FM Sergey Lavrov and Yuri Ushakov, a foreign policy adviser to Putin, will take part in talks with US officials in Saudi Arabia on Tuesday. Washington has also confirmed the meeting, saying Secretary of State Marco Rubio, National Security Adviser Mike Waltz and special envoy Steve Witkoff will attend. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-russia-hold-peace-talks-saudi-arabia-without-ukraine-even-zelensky-visits-gulf

    #182501
    zerosum
    Participant

    A lot of people are noticing the changes that are happening and calling it …
    Trump Revolution

    #182502
    John Day
    Participant

    Gilbert Doctorow on Ursula’s disappointing meeting: Meeting in Paris is a flop: no agreement on sending troops for peace-keeping in Ukraine
    Prime Minister Starmer, who was hoping to speak for Europe when he visits the White House shortly and to play the role of intermediary, now will arrive in Washington with empty hands.
    For the Russians this failure removes one headache in their talks with the Americans which open in Riyadh tomorrow. The Kremlin was staunchly opposed to any NATO boots on the ground in Ukraine, saying it would violate the basic principle over which they have fought their war in and over Ukraine these past three years. https://gilbertdoctorow.com/2025/02/17/meeting-in-paris-is-a-flop-no-agreement-on-sending-troops-for-peace-keeping-in-ukraine/

    Offering to write a check that will never be cashed: UK’s Starmer: I’m Ready To Put British Troops In Ukraine https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uks-starmer-im-ready-put-british-troops-ukraine

    Zelensky has signed a trade agreement with UAE, and will visit Saudi Arabia, Turkey in coming days. Officially, he is talking about getting Ukrainian POWs home.
    Ukraine’s Zelensky, UAE president discuss economic cooperation https://www.newarab.com/news/ukraines-zelensky-uae-president-discuss-economic-cooperation

    Dima at Military Summary says Putin & Trump will meet in February: Zelensky Plans Escape Russians Advance On All Fronts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQBDB7v8W_w

    Already happening Monday morning. Trump Admin Pursuing ‘Grand Bargain’ With Belarus In Tandem With Ukraine Peace Efforts https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-admin-pursuing-grand-bargain-belarus-tandem-ukraine-peace-efforts

    #182503
    John Day
    Participant

    3 day old news, already. It didn’t work, did it? Kiev regime attacks Chernobyl to sabotage peace talks https://strategic-culture.su/news/2025/02/17/kiev-regime-attacks-chernobyl-to-sabotage-peace-talks/

    Simplicius believes Russia will play very hard ball: The Games Begin: US and Russian Top Dogs Face Off in Riyadh https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/the-games-begin-us-and-russian-top

    Defense Stocks Soar As EU Leaders Plan To “Substantially Increase” Weapon Spending https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/defense-stocks-soar-eu-leaders-plan-substantially-increase-weapon-spending

    Trump says Russia isn’t a threat to NATO Vladimir Zelensky earlier accused Moscow of seeking a ceasefire only in order to attack the US-led military bloc https://swentr.site/news/612830-trump-putin-zelensky-nato-war/

    AfD candidate for German chancellor seeks end to policy of sanctions on Russia — report
    Alice Weidel also called for talks on the settlement of the Ukraine conflict https://tass.com/world/1913961

    #182504
    John Day
    Participant

    Vance meets leader of ‘firewalled’ German party backed by Musk
    US Vice President J.D. Vance met with Alice Weidel, the leader of Germany’s ‘firewalled’ Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, on Friday. Vance was in the country to attend the annual Munich Security Conference.
    Their meeting reportedly lasted about half an hour and focused on the Ukraine conflict, German domestic policies, and freedom of speech, including the so-called ‘Brandmauer’, or “firewall against the right.” The term refers to a stance embraced by mainstream German parties that aims to prevent the right-wing powers from joining ruling coalitions in the country.
    News of the meeting came after Vance slammed European politicians for “fearing” their own voters by refusing to engage with right-wing parties in a speech on Friday. While he did not mention the AfD directly, he said European governments should drop “firewalls” and “embrace” public opinion or lose the right to be called democratic.
    Vance referred to the recent endorsement of Weidel for German chancellor by Elon Musk, a close ally to US President Donald Trump, whose online presence at an AfD rally in Halle last month resulted in accusations of election interference from the German government. The vice president dismissed the allegations, painting Musk’s endorsement as an example of free speech, a core democratic value. He chided the European establishment for criticizing Musk, and said he feared free speech was “in retreat” across the continent. The AfD denies being far-right, insisting that it promotes the interests of the German people with its anti-immigration stance. It has, however, been put under surveillance for suspected extremism by German intelligence. Despite the allegations, public support for the party has been growing, and it is currently polling in second place ahead of the German parliamentary election on February 23, with 21% of the public saying they support it.
    Weidel did not comment on her meeting with Vance, but praised his remarks in Munich in a post on X, saying they were “excellent” and applauding his comment regarding firewalls. https://swentr.site/news/612806-vance-germany-right-wing-meeting/

    No place for EU in Ukraine talks – Trump envoy
    Although Western Europeans may not be at the table, the region’s interests will be taken into account, Keith Kellogg has said https://swentr.site/news/612790-no-place-for-europe-in-ukraine-talks/

    Trump wants Ukraine ceasefire by Easter – Bloomberg
    The US president’s envoy on the conflict, Keith Kellogg, has spoken of getting a peace deal within weeks https://swentr.site/news/612824-trump-ukraine-ceasefire-easter/

    Because Germany created Ukraine from other countries in WW-1: INTERVIEW: Medvedchuk Certain EU countries nourishing ideas of annexing Ukrainian lands
    Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, and Bulgaria are nourishing ideas of annexing certain Ukrainian lands, Viktor Medvedchuk, former leader of Ukraine’s banned “Opposition Platform – For Life” party, who now leads the “Another Ukraine” movement, said in an interview with TASS.
    “It is reliably known that certain countries of the European Union, such as Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, and Bulgaria, have long been nourishing ideas of annexing certain Ukrainian lands, which were artificially made part of modern Ukraine. Those countries’ politicians have repeatedly voiced and even strongly encouraged their governments to implement those ideas, which are historically valid and reasonable,” he said. https://tass.com/politics/1913751

    Trump Determined to Undo Damage to US-Russian Relations – Former Pentagon Officer https://sputnikglobe.com/20250213/trump-determined-to-undo-damage-to-us-russian-relations–former-pentagon-officer-1121567345.html

    #182506
    John Day
    Participant

    Dima, at Military Summary, has the first update on Russia-US negotiations in Riyadh, and will have another a few hours hence. It looks like a timetable for deconfliction and Ukrainian withdrawal from oblasts now claimed by Russia will take place soon. Ukrainian compliance will be forced by the US. It may be slow. Ukraine will have presidential elections in October, and final treaties can be signed then. Russia & USA Grow CloserRussians Break Through Kostiantynopil’s Defense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_InYbNymZ8

    Trump sends defense stocks crashing
    Shares of Lockheed Martin plunged after the US president said he may halve military spending https://swentr.site/news/612780-trump-defense-stocks-crashing/

    Fire! Aim! Ready! Oops: Trump Administration Un-Fires Hundreds Of Nuclear Weapon Workers https://www.zerohedge.com/political/oops-trump-administration-un-fires-hundreds-nuclear-weapon-workers

    Look at their faces, please. Netanyahu To Rubio: Let’s ‘Finish the Job’ Against Iran https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/netanyahu-rubio-lets-finish-job-against-iran

    #182507
    John Day
    Participant

    Trump begins negotiations this way: China Furious After State Dept Changes Line On ‘Taiwan Independence’ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-furious-after-state-dept-changes-line-taiwan-independence

    Bring out the tech billionaires! “Highly Symbolic” Moment: Alibaba’s Jack Ma Reemerges, Shakes Xi’s Hand As CCP Renews Confidence In China Tech
    Top CCP leaders gathered at the Great Hall of the People for a meeting with Chinese business executives, including Jack Ma.
    “I took a snapshot of President Xi shaking hands with Alibaba’s founder Jack Ma,” the analyst said, adding, “The young man sitting to the right of Pony Ma is DeepSeek founder Mr. Liang WenFeng (born in 1985)” and “The young man sitting to the right of Jack Ma (with 2 people in between them) is the robotics company UniTree’s founder Mr. XingXing WANG (born in 1995).” https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/highly-symbolic-moment-alibabas-jack-ma-reemerges-shakes-xis-hand-ccp-renews-confidence

    Michael Hudson interview: The (Geo)Politics Of Precious Metals
    “Gold is being seen as an alternative to dollar or euro-denominated assets,” Hudson explains, emphasizing that economic decisions are deeply intertwined with political concerns.
    Hudson argues that the gold market is unique and has been historically manipulated by the U.S. to maintain the dollar’s dominance in global reserves. He notes that, unlike other commodities, gold’s price was artificially suppressed for decades to keep global financial reliance on U.S. Treasury securities.
    “The aim of this was political—to keep the world viewing the U.S. dollar as the most secure form of international reserves,” he states. However, as trust in the Western financial system declines due to excessive monetary policies and sanctions, nations are turning to gold. The recent sharp rise in gold prices signals the breakdown of this controlled system.
    A major concern Hudson raises is the discrepancy between the actual gold supply and the financialized gold market, where much of the traded gold is merely paper-based. The leasing of gold by central banks to private dealers has created a situation akin to a financial bubble, with more claims on gold than the available physical supply. “This gold drain to satisfy the recent price rise has seriously depleted gold reserves,” Hudson warns, suggesting that when investors demand actual gold rather than financial derivatives, the system could collapse.
    He compares the situation to a bank run, where too many people seek to withdraw their assets at once, revealing the fragility of the system.
    Looking ahead, Hudson speculates on the potential for a financial restructuring where gold plays a central role. He suggests that countries disillusioned with the Western financial order may seek a new monetary arrangement based on gold or other tangible assets. https://www.zerohedge.com/precious-metals/geopolitics-precious-metals

    The US Treasury doesn’t own any gold. The Fed now owns it. “Let’s Do It”: Rand Paul Supports Fort Knox Physical Audit After ZeroHedge Suggestion Goes Viral https://www.zerohedge.com/political/lets-do-it-rand-paul-supports-fort-knox-physical-audit-after-zerohedge-suggestion-goes

    “Like QE But Without The QE”: What Trump’s Upcoming Gold Revaluation Shock Will Look Like
    On Feb 3, Trump’s new Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessent, said “within the next 12 months, we are going to monetize the asset side of the US balance sheet”. These comments – which were in the context of US government funding for a new sovereign wealth fund – prompted the FT’s Gillian Tett to suggest that rising speculation of gold revaluation may be behind the surge in gold, to wit: “currently, [US gold stocks] are valued at just $42 an ounce in national accounts. But knowledgeable observers reckon that if these were marked at current values — $2,800 an ounce — this could inject $800bn into the Treasury General Account, via a repurchase agreement. That might reduce the need to issue quite so many Treasury bonds this year” (technically yes, practically – considering the US government spends over $7 trillion each year, the “benefit” would be equivalent to… less than 2 months of spending). https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/qe-without-qe-what-trumps-upcoming-gold-revaluation-shock-will-look

    #182508
    John Day
    Participant

    When president Ronald Reagan took office in 1981, his conservative friends urged him to study the feasibility of returning to a gold standard as the only way to curb government spending. It sounded like a reasonable alternative, so President Reagan appointed a group of men called the Gold Commission to study the situation and report back to Congress. What Reagan’s Gold Commission reported back to Congress in 1982 was the following shocking revelation concerning gold. The US Treasury owned no gold at all. All the gold that was left in Fort Knox was now owned by the Federal Reserve, a group of private bankers, as collateral against the national debt. The truth of the matter is that never before has so much money been stolen from the hands of the general public and put into the hands of a small group of private investors, the money changers” https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1891237363222761557

    “This Might Be The Biggest Fraud In History”
    Elon Musk, … the head of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), tasked with streamlining the federal bureaucracy, returned very excited to his social media platform around midnight, unveiling what “might be the biggest fraud in history.”
    Musk posted a spreadsheet of Social Security Administration data showing “numbers of people in each age bucket with the death field set to FALSE!”

    The data shows that 20.789 million Americans are collecting social security benefits over the age of 100. Drilling down into the age buckets, benefits are still being paid out to folks over 140! https://www.zerohedge.com/political/might-be-biggest-fraud-history

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bruh-musk-shuts-down-fetterman-over-deep-state-doge-disinfo

    Censorship and narrative control is a pervasive internet mycelium. Federal government censorship – key nodes, and rabbit holes
    Many claim to have found the censor’s secret lair, but it’s more complicated https://networkaffects.substack.com/p/federal-government-censorship-key

    #182509
    John Day
    Participant

    Mary Beth Pfeiffer, Like Penicillin, ‘Miraculous’ DMSO Could Change the Lives of Afflicted Millions
    The FDA long ago buried dimethyl sulfoxide, but a crusading physician and the medical freedom movement may resurrect it for stroke, paralysis, chronic pain, and more. https://rescue.substack.com/p/like-penicillin-miraculous-dmso-could

    Act Now! Before it’s Too Late! U.S. Conditionally Approves Avian Flu Vaccine for Poultry
    Vaccine cartel gets closer to realizing its dream of vaccinating 308 million egg laying hens in the U.S., even though leaky vaccines are likely to result in new pathogens. https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/us-conditionally-approves-avian-flu

    Pfizer data showing this was leaked in early 2021. Study Finds 37 Safety Signals for COVID Vaccines During Pregnancy,
    CDC Still Urges Women to Get the Shots
    Miscarriage, preeclampsia, cervical insufficiency, chromosomal abnormalities, fetal malformations, premature birth, stillbirth, newborn asphyxia and newborn death were among the signals flagged by the peer-reviewed study, published last week. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/study-37-safety-signals-covid-vaccines-pregnancy-cdc-still-urges-women-get-shots/

    Peter McCullough MD, Restatement of the Four Pillars of US Childhood Vaccine Policy, Recent JAMA Forum Puts Safety Near Last
    I was struck by a February 12, 2025 JAMA Forum piece by Sharfstein and Despres attacking President Trump and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. while reasserting the 4 DHHS policies and programs as “pillars” of the US childhood vaccine effort: 1) Vaccines for Children program which uses taxpayer dollars to buy vaccines from drug companies, 2) ACIP childhood vaccine schedule, 3) oversight of vaccine safety after vaccine approval, 4) National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/restatement-of-the-four-pillars-of

    #182510
    John Day
    Participant

    I still don’t like that there’s a plastic spoon in my brain. ‘It doesn’t harm us’: Russian scientist busts myths about microplastics
    Alarming media reports about the harm of microplastics to the human body and the environment are greatly exaggerated, Alexei Khokhlov has told RT https://swentr.site/news/612723-alarming-media-reports-microplastics/

    Physicist Anastassia Makarieva, The tug-of-war between forests and oceans: Biotic pump and the spatial distribution of terrestrial precipitation https://bioticregulation.substack.com/p/the-tug-of-war-between-forests-and

    #182511
    John Day
    Participant

    Happy Birthday T-Bear

    Read you loud and clear, Citizenx

    #182512
    John Day
    Participant

    @Oxymoron in Oz: Right On, Brother!

    #182513
    Dr. D
    Participant

    ““Democrats want to audit you for a $600 Venmo payment, but when Elon Musk audits the trillion dollar government – they’re ready to storm the castle.”

    He’s not just saying that: I’ve seen it in person. This is WHILE Gaza is going on right now. Same thing as when they gave Trump was it $50B more than he wanted for the CIA/Secret Military State? You’d think they’d NOT want to give Hitler more government? No, they somehow want this, but there’s no “Memo” for “Moar Government employees, larger government bombing brownies is good” so far as I can tell. Let me get this straight: Trump is President and can do whatever he wants and you want a LARGER government with MORE bombs? A: Yes.

    Maybe there really IS such a thing as an egregore, an energy-spirit that takes on its own life and reality, telepathically created out of (formerly) human energy? Big Magic. Bernays Magic, from Freud and Jung.

    Telegraph headline there, Gold Leaving London.

    IRS, also with the egregore, they LOVE taxes. I know this seems impossible, insane, they are in a normal conversation, interject with you, a normal person, a neighbor, that “Gol’ durn it Bob, I love taxes, I mean, heck we all do, but for me it’s more than that.” No I’m not kidding. Maybe I know too many people.

    Banana
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7b/06/68/7b0668a619c04b1168db8db673846a13.jpg

    So after complaining – HATING, SHOOTING people in the head, in the street – that the rich don’t pay taxes, they will ALSO hate auditing the IRS… so the Rich can finally pay taxes. It’s supernatural. Perhaps literally.

    “Russia at the UN: “Ukraine has now irrevocably lost not only Crimea, but also the DPR, LPR, Kherson and Zaporizhia regions, which have become part of Russia… The future Ukraine must be a demilitarized, neutral state, not part of any blocs or alliances”

    Russia has now got everything. Whatever they wished, dreamed to arrange their country, as if planned laboriously their coming out and quinceañera. They are now a “Real” country, full, world power. Who is at the table? Not Europe, they are above Europe. They beat everyone on earth, ON THE BATTLEFIELD, Europe having a meltdown, but really a toddler tantrum. Stomping feet, going to their rooms in Paris. They get the Legal, the UN, the economic, complete reversal of sanctions with no debate, and the military. Plus the practical, in Europe. All of it. If they had landed in a spaceship as an unknown race and had to get relevance, order, here on earth, this is exactly how you’d engineer it.

    Now, we have non stop tariffs here, (Psych!! Lifted!!!) the Left is on how the nation will collapse due to the tariffs we’ve already taken off. Sigh. But what happens to world money, prosperity, capital flows and velocity when RUSSIA re-adds to global GDP? Yes, whatever Biden killed will reappear again. I can’t help put think that’s a big tailwind.

    What is that boost SPECIFICALLY? Oil Prices. Energy. That is, Inflation in America drops or goes wherever they want to set it. This is the #Opposite again, where they are calling for runaway inflation FAFO, you red hat munchkins, are you sorry yet?

    No, actually.
    Toon

    “Nobody voted for Elon.” We did. We did, actually. We voted for him for months he claimed he would do exactly this, and we could only dream he would keep his word. He was jumping around spazzing on stage? You might have noticed? DOGE. Well-covered for like a year?

    Insta-boost GDP, Insta-drop prices. Insta-add jobs.

    “You don’t understand. Those jobs: they’re not coming back” – Obama “What do you think I have a magic wand?”

    You mean a fat wand like the $2-3 TRILLION you’ve been f—g us with every year? Yeah, I think like EVERY fraud we find is adding like $600/yr to an American family’s account so far.

    “USAID is only 0.4% it’s not even worth erasing $100B in fraud!!!” — Literal Famous Leftist online.

    “By my math and adjusting for a normalized age distribution, this could bring the total amount of fraud to $793B per year.”

    Soooo….we’re finding $1 Trillion at a Pop, over and over. Still not worth looking?

    “No! I WANT to pay taxes for free, even when no taxes at all are necessaryyyyyyyy!!!!!”

    “• US, Russia Hold Peace Talks In Saudi Arabia Without Ukraine (ZH)

    Okay, oil above. US/Russia have to sit down somewhere safe, and looks like Europe is not that place. They’d probably bomb the peace conference to keep the war going. I mean, they’re happily shelling nuclear plants and Russian cities, so…

    But why SAUDI? A: The oil again. US/Russia/Saudi, as the top oil producers are setting terms WITH EACH OTHER, to set terms on OIL PRICES WORLDWIDE. Apparently at Trump’s convenience, but I’m sure they talk it out. And why not, if they can break the U.S. from Neocon Derp State, the whole world wins totally.

    “President Zelensky is actually currently in the Gulf region, visiting UAE, and he’s next traveling to Saudi Arabia—and yet he’s not going to be part of the the US-Russia talks.”

    Trying to gatecrash AGAIN. They patted him on his adorable little head and sent him packing. Daddy’s busy right now, MBS said. We’ll have all the time you want after the 20th.

    “till, the Ukrainian leader has said these talks will “yield no results” without Ukraine’s direct representation and input.”

    This is true and talking point of Europe. However, you can see the U.S. like Kellogg talking circles trying to be nice about the obvious: Go ahead and have all the wars you want, that’s your right. Just we’re not in them. Starmer is “We’re going to send all live British troops.” No response, no one cares because there ARE NO TROOPS. Jesus how many decades are you going to rely on “I Coulda Been a Contenta’”? It’s like EIGHTY years, sir. If the US LEAVES THE WAR ENDS. Because we’re the only one fighting the war at your direction. Because YOU made it that way. The combined forces or Europe might not match a Ukraine that has been HALVED now. England can be conquered by IRELAND and probably should be for the lols. I’ll help: I hear chef’s knives are illegal now but legal in Dublin.

    “Volodymyr Zelensky insists he won’t accept a US-Russia deal on Ukraine without Kiev’s input. But does his opinion matter?”

    Again: Please DON’T accept this deal. Feel free. Do whatever you want. Just leave me out of it.

    “Starmer has stressed that he is ready to send British soldiers to provide security guarantees for Kiev, in the event of a ceasefire. Similarly, Macron has repeatedly brought up the possibility of putting Western boots on the ground,”

    Don’t know why we have to re-hash this. And Kellogg/Hegseth said “Any troops in Ukraine are outside Article 5”. The. End. That is, they’ll be bombed to powder and we won’t lift a finger. You think Spain will? Italy? Ireland?

    “Sunday, Heusgen became emotional, having to cut himself short.”

    Being the women sissy-girls, the psychotic ex-girlfriends to the U.S. begin the put-upon man, EUROPE IS CRYING ON CAMERA. “Don’t you care, honey? Don’t you love me no more? Now get over there and stab that man in the neck.”

    Crying. Yeah, that’ll help.

    We’re not monsters here, sir. GET YOURSELF AN ARMY. For the love of Christ and all things Holy. Then you will be this thing called “Relevant” for discussions and negotiations ON YOUR OWN CONTINENT. Guns R Bad, mmmm-kay.

    Hash, re-hash-eth again: Russia has a said $5T GDP. Europe as a $15T GDP. Roughly. And you have NOTHING, not a single Division, no planes, no tanks no missiles? Given that, EUROPE should be able to keep off Russia without batting an eye. Population? Euro population and GDP is larger than the U.S.; WTF are WE paying it?

    And re-hash-eth it again forsooth, RUSSIA CAN NEITHER INVADE NOR OCCUPY. In any way. Not only is their army pointedly constructed so that’s impossible, but they haven’t the population to do so.

    And re-hash-eth it again: the Eastern Bloc was run by… the Eastern Bloc. Surprise! Polish Socialists were running Poland and ALLIED to Moscow. It wasn’t boys from the Urals running East Germany. (mostly). Same as UK is not run by Americans from Kansas and Virginia. Russia can’t invade and occupy, and in fact essentially never did.

    “• US Imposing ‘Colonial’ Resource Deal On Ukraine (RT)

    Well Trump can TRY that, but if it’s signed, my conclusion will be the U.S. and Russia had this planned all along. To defuse Ukraine from CIA/Brzezinski, and to crush Europe. Why? Because Russia doesn’t have to do this at all. They can take all and laugh.

    “J.D. Vance Delivers a Historic Defense of Free Speech (Turley)

    They’re on the 60 Minutes of this, and Elon proposes creating a “69 minutes”. Airing at 4:20pm. Anyway, I thought it was neutral, like go-ahead-and-hang-yourself, please-tell-me-more neutral. My perception.

    “In a single speech, Vance shattered the hypocrisy of our allies’ calling for a defense of the West while abandoning Western values. They did not like it” Did not like it Sam I Am.

    “many in the American press joined in dismissing his address.”

    Yes. They’re all “Atlanticists”, that is, Globalists. Anti-American. Traitors. Same people that if it helps Apple, would kill 100,000 Flyovers a year and giggle. And have. They’re only District 11s.

    “In the midst of this crackdown, Vance spoke with a quintessentially American voice. It was clear, honest and unafraid. There was no pretense or evasion. It was a speech about who we are as a nation and the values that still define us — and no longer define our allies.”

    This is indeed why Vance is underrated. Like Coolidge. Nothing’s happening, no motion, then boop, between the ribs. Which we’re finding he can do over and over again.

    “‘No, that’s my free speech’,” one of the prosecutors, Dr. Matthaus Fink, told CBS. “And we say, ‘No, you have free speech as well, but it also has its limits’.

    That’s what they had planned here. As Hillary was open and clear about. You’re free to say exactly what she tells you to. We only barely, barely missed it because we “Won’t Do What We’re Told.” MAKE ME.

    Front Page: “Deranged Maniac Fires Off Over 17 Memes In Crowded German Shopping Mall ” –BBee

    This where Speech is violence, but violence is NOT violence. Running over 30 people in market is “Speech”…you understand. Cultural Enrichment.

    “• The European Welfare State Is Collapsing (Lacalle)

    Yes, that’s called “Socialism”. It collapses as soon as they run out of “Other people’s money.” Aka, “Capitalism.”

    This is exactly what Armstrong said.

    “We have seen a gradual destruction of the productive sector, asphyxiated by constantly raising taxes and bureaucratic and regulatory limitations, while government budgets expanded without control.”

    You mean like $3Trillion of a $3Trillion budget being open fraud here? Like that?

    “Europe’s welfare state became the welfare of the state at the expense of its businesses and taxpayers.”

    Yes but not THEIR taxpayers: American ones. They keep this afloat by having no national defense. America is their only army and national defense. What was that list, all ports, bridges, utilities, power companies, Dodge, Harley, Bud, all owned by Europe to be run into the ground and extracted? Yes, that’s called “Being a Colony.” Bought with our own stolen $3Trillion.

    “In the 1990s, President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore took on a challenge that few politicians dared to confront: cutting the size of the federal government.”

    Yes, Clinton crushed WELFARE SPENDING. But because he’s a Democrat, erasing Unions, adding military, bombing nations, and killing the Poors, that’s okay. ‘94 Crime Bill! Superpredator!

    “Big Pharma has spent over 5 BILLION dollars to buy off and lobby members of Congress.

    Okay, if they’re PAYING $5Bil, what are their PROFITS? Well, prices could be $5Bil lower, I know that! But wouldn’t bother without a 10x return on investment? So $55 Billion? 100X?

    Otters:

    Barbarians, all.

    “Kevin O’Leary on DOGE: “Cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut. More! More cutting.”

    That’s why he’s a dork. Cut the nuclear missile employees? The forest fire service?

    Turtles: Goats, etc have very alive, sensitive horns too. Like antennas.

    News I think go lost:

    “• House GOP Drafting Impeachment Articles Against Judges Blocking DOGE (ZH)

    Wait: I thought everyone liked impeachment, it was a GOOD thing? Now it’s not?
    Be cautious here, we’re not trying to install a king, which is what the Right is saying and Trump is suggesting yesterday.

    “President Donald Trump’s move to reduce government is now portrayed as evil in its own right. Elon Musk’s move to draw down various agencies was presented as a virtual return to the state of nature. Democratic members staged protests in front of various agencies to declare “war” and to accuse Trump of “destroying the government” by shrinking it.”

    They’re probably going back to Obama’s budget and size of government.

    Speaking of Rep. Kweisi Mfume, apparently it’s confirmed that Rep Omar did indeed marry her own brother as immigration fraud. And apparently said she was happy for it and would do it again. So Conpsiracy Theorists now 57-0

    #182514
    John Day
    Participant

    ‘Successful’ US-Russia Talks Conclude After 4+ Hours, With No Ukraine Or EU Reps
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/successful-us-russia-talks-conclude-after-4-hours-no-ukraine-or-eu-reps

    Both sides have said they are looking forward to the meeting paving a way for a near-future bilateral summit between Presidents Trump and Putin.

    Secretary Rubio issued a statement in the wake of the meeting, which most interestingly included an agreement for election to be held in Ukraine, which Zelensky certainly isn’t going to like (and probably won’t agree to), given also he just recently argued that martial law prevents this. According to what was agreed to based on Rubio’s readout:

    Two sides agree to broadly to pursue three goals: allowing back staffing at their embassies in Washington and Moscow and to establish respective high-level teams to support Ukraine peace talks.
    And three: Explore closer restored relations and economic cooperation between the US and Russia
    Rubio stressed that any agreement must be “acceptable” to US, Russia, Ukraine and Europe.
    The plan has three stages: a ceasefire, elections in Ukraine and signing a final agreement, according to Fox reporter Jacqui Heinrich on X
    Lavrov has said: We have agreed that a mechanism for a settlement of the Ukraine conflict will be formed in the near future, and ambassadors will be appointed ASAP to lead these efforts.

    #182515
    John Day
    Participant

    Zelensky Abruptly Cancels Planned Saudi Visit After Being Sidelined From US-Russia Talks
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/zelensky-abruptly-cancels-planned-saudi-visit-after-being-sidelined-us-russia-talks

    #182516
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    “Gobsmacked” ’em, he did.

    https://m.facebook.com/yostdutchmaidbakery/

    #182517
    chooch
    Participant

    Deflationary forces are being cued up.

    #182518
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Marco Rubio has been preparing for this momentous moment his entire life as airy airiness, Rubio’s natural state, gives way to gravitas.

    ….in other words he agreed to man the staff or staff the staff.

      State Department spokesperson Tammy Bruce said the U.S. team agreed to establish “a consultation mechanism to address irritants to our bilateral relationship with the objective of taking steps necessary to normalize the operation of our respective diplomatic missions.”

    “Diplomatic missions” while The Bombastic JD Hamel Vance Bowman BLANTON gobsmacks the mutherf*ckers.
    Hell yeah!!

    #182519
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Oxymoron, Vance. Fair enough. That was Tbear’s problem with Trump. Everytime anyone pops up we have to then re-list all good and bad things through the entire relevant past? I felt the same thing picking out Trump only, and one week in, but just shrugged. If he thinks nothing but Trump = Death, well, Cheeto’s been saying dumb stuff and it will remain to be seen. Here it’s the opposite: Vance is saying GOOD stuff…after being nowhere to be found for years, including not lifting a finger for J6 solitary confinement without charges. That too should not be allowed or let pass.

    But again, BOTH cases are, “If we mention X”, George Washington, or the American Revolution, are we required to automatically list every bad thing before naming the one good thing we’re discussing that minute? Or vice versa? Seems impractical.

    “Yes, the vaxd are seriously f’d and seriously dying.”

    The F’d part is, We care about THEM, they do not care about US. Yet I can’t and won’t reverse that.

    #182520
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “The business of finding fault is very easy, and that of doing better very hard.” – St. Francis de Sales

    #182521
    those darned kids
    Participant

    the business of seeing “operation warp speed” was a scam was easy, yet mr. trump was fooled.

    ¿or complicit?

    #182522
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    “trivialize the obvious errors”

    That’s what Musk is doing….”busy finding fault”.

    While Musk was busy finding fault with AntiSemites and excluding them from X, musk’s X was not so busy fininding reasons to block The Fraudster from Argentina or is it Chile ((((chee-lay))), Milei.

      “Just three minutes after the project was created, the president of Argentina published a message on Elon Musk’s social network encouraging investment in it, assuring that all the money received would be dedicated to “encouraging the growth of the Argentine economy,”

    Bombastic Bloviating Blowhards equals ConMen equals Spellbinders equals gaslighters equals Hypnotists equals “Transfixationists”

    #182523
    jb-hb
    Participant

    What To Know About The White House’s Dispute With AP
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/what-know-about-white-houses-dispute-ap

    AP News sent an email to subscriber organizations on Jan. 23 with a notification that it would continue to use “Gulf of Mexico” rather than “Gulf of America,” the Trump administration’s new name for the body of water.

    The Trump administration has announced that it was restricting Associated Press journalists’ access to certain areas frequented by the president, including the Oval Office and Air Force One

    Sounds like you’re saying, AP, that it is wrong to think of some obvious absurdity (men are women, inject yourself with poison, etc) and then use it as a purity test to purposely exclude anyone not obsequiously on your side, anyone who fails to bend the knee?

    Not happy with this? Then PUT DOWN YOUR WEAPONS and… Rejoin. Civil. Society.

    (the horror! unacceptable!)

    Sad to see AP being barred from press conferences and other standard press things, but this is what has to happen to these people, over and over, until they find it within themselves to change their minds.

    And this is the most soft-touch, easy to understand version of this, where we are here in the first few weeks.

    #182524
    Dora
    Participant

    Here’s a video on Rumble about chlorine dioxide, for anyone interested.
    Add a (dot) between ‘rumble’ and ‘com’
    https://rumble com/v3lkaz9-the-universal-antidote.html

    Pierre Kory has several posts on how to use it safely on his substack pierrekory.substack.com

    #182525

    oroboros?

    #182526
    John Day
    Participant

    https://www.kitco.com/charts/gold Gold is ramping up at $1930 as I write this.

    #182527

    correction- $2952/oz

    #182541
    poppie
    Participant

    Has aspnatz been gone since USAID?

    #182542
    SeaBirds
    Participant

    @CitizenX #182499

    Thanks for your thoughts.
    Our experience in New Zealand was similar. Under the Ardern government controlled by elite globalist forces, roadblocks were erected throughout the country and we unvaccinated were forbidden to travel. We were also banned access to most places. We left two years ago and may never go back. When we read articles like the following, it’s obvious that Big Pharma still presides over the Land of the Long White Cloud.

    Major Alert: New Zealand Government is Enshrining ‘Medical Mandates’ in Law

    It was the Europeans who we believe got out in sufficient numbers to overturn the insidious imposition of Vaccine Passports.

    Thanks also Oxy. Good on ya, mate.

    #182543
    poppie
    Participant

    aspnaz, Last comment Thursday 06 Feb 2025. USAID lock down Monday 03 Feb 2025.

    #182544
    John Day
    Participant

    Oops, I left $1000 off the price of gold.
    How last-year of me.
    ;-(

    #182545
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    He’s over at Unz, if you still want to read him, Popple.

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