Debt Rattle February 5 2025
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February 5, 2025 at 9:20 pm #181424
Dr D Rich
ParticipantNormalizing aberrant behavior then elevating it, the misbehavior, to something worthy of respect and deference.
Routinizing misconduct is the other prong.
All elements of Reversing Victim and Offender.
So what you were hurt.
So what indeed.
February 5, 2025 at 9:29 pm #181425aspnaz
Participantthose darned kids said
maybe, just maybe, it’s not “the jews” but “the psychopaths”
Why do Americans refuse to see reality when it stares them in the face? You can’t argue with this sort of statement, it is like people who are convinced the Covid jab was properly tested etc so must be safe, despite “time” telling us that such a scenario didn’t happen, couldn’t happen. Here we have the same delusions running rampant; this is why people act like sheep, they refuse to believe their own eyes. My retort is that maybe all Jews are psychopaths … makes as much sense.
February 5, 2025 at 9:34 pm #181426aspnaz
ParticipantUS Will ‘Take Over’ Gaza – Trump (RT)
Onward Christian soldiers off to die for Israel, and we are only in week two of the Orange Dictator-Jew’s power craze … what will he do after he has destroyed all of the USA and brainwashed the people into thinking he made the world a better place by increasing their tariff taxes and creating inflation. The theatre is immense, a lot of planning has gone into the media releases, lots of striking headlines with very little of substance behind them.
February 5, 2025 at 9:46 pm #181427aspnaz
Participantthose darned kids said
they just gonna rebrand the evil.
Indeed, only suckers would believe that the Orange Dictator Jew is doing anything for the USA. USAid will continue, it will just be doing a curruption different to its current corruption. The new corruption will benefit the ODJ’s owners, the same people who own the Rothschild project’s Netanyahu, and will take from the long suffering – for a reason – sheep of the USA. Musk is also owned by the same people and is not working to benefit the US people, he is working for his owners …. the front man is not essential for the survival of his companies? All theatre aimed at building a corruption beneficial to ODJ admin’s owners.
February 5, 2025 at 9:58 pm #181428aspnaz
ParticipantOroboros said
Anyone of them with a moral compass and a basic understanding of the Constitution they pledged to defend when hired would have resigned their job out of principle.
So the Orange Dictator Jew, the one trampling over the constitution, is now the rightous sword of God, come down to strike anyone who disobeyed the constitution? What a load of bollocks. Self righteousness is usually a front for vengence, it provides the fake moral authority that permits the next crook to down the previous crook.
Maybe the Orange Dictator Jew should go after the people who made the decisions, in court? Or don’t they do congress or court any more? Is democracy now dead in the USA? To be replaced by dictorship and direct vengence of politicians into civil service life … I guess the civil servants who survive the ODJ will be fired when the next POTUS arrives in four years time, they will be accused of helping the ODJ. It looks like the ODJ was installed to destroy America’s government and turn the country into a wasteland ripe for the picking by oligarchs … USSR anyone?
February 5, 2025 at 10:18 pm #181429aspnaz
ParticipantTrump, the USA’s own Yeltsin, doing the same job as Yeltsin, being paid by the same people as Yeltsin, the people who funded the Russian criminals who became the Russian oligarchs …. the Rothschilds. The USSR Yeltsin was a drunk, but the ODJ is drunk on power, so no real difference – feed the addiction – and same old plan, same old money, but this time the Orange Yeltsin will help the Rothschild Israel project during its demise.
The parrallels are interesting, we shall see whether this turns out to be the case. Who will emerge as the USA’s Putin, the sensible person capable of dragging the country back to its feet? We haven’t seen him yet, the country is not yet on its knees, but he is out there. The rumour is that Joseph Rothchild, the dead one, was pissed off with Putin because he disrupted, eventually halted, the Rothchild Russia plan. We shall see how the Rothchild plan works for the USA.
February 5, 2025 at 10:21 pm #181430those darned kids
Participantwell, of course, now that
the kkkal-qaeda is in charge.February 5, 2025 at 10:28 pm #181431aspnaz
ParticipantIn 2021, Politico was acquired for reportedly over 1 billion USD by Axel Springer SE, a German news publisher and media company. Axel Springer is Europe’s largest newspaper publisher and had previously acquired Business Insider. Unlike employees of its German newspapers, the employees of Politico do not have to sign Axel Springer’s mission statement that expresses support for Israel and America’s and Europe’s transatlantic alliance.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politico.
All smoke and mirrors; the team that owns Politico is now burning Politico in order to support the Zionist movement. And all the seals in the USA clapped, thinking they were winning.
February 5, 2025 at 10:35 pm #181432aspnaz
ParticipantLook up Axel Springer on wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axel_Springer and you can see that he has been a beneficiary of American funding for decades, since the second world war. You got to wonder how many other companies are funded by the USA.
February 5, 2025 at 10:36 pm #181433Dr D Rich
ParticipantBoris Yeltsin, apt analogy.
100% credit to you aspnaz
February 5, 2025 at 10:38 pm #181434D Benton Smith
ParticipantIt is not even possible for Trump to start implement any part of his extremely implausible plan until several pre-conditions are met. Here’s three of them.
The first condition is that the Israeli’s agree to the United States owning the land that they swear up and down was given to them by God himself. So how does that work with the land being owned by the United States? In other words, Hell will freeze over before the Israelis would agree to any arrangement other than THEM owning it.
The next condition is that the Gazans leave. Well, the Gazans are NOT leaving. I think they made it pretty clear that no amount of force and violence is going to make them do so. They’ve given their answer, and underwritten the sincerity of their answer with 46,000 lives and uncountable wounded. To doubt the sincerity of their refusal to leave is simply madness
Well, the Israel/US coalition just tried that tactic of eviction by force and you can see how well that worked. Using all of their combined might (short of nuclear weapons) and using a SHIT TON of bombs to level the country and kill tens of thousands of innocent women and children, they FAILED to make the Gazans leave. I suppose US/Israel can try to evict the Palestinians by force AGAIN, for the umpteenth time, and that won’t make them leave either. They are NOT leaving.
One last pre-condition for even starting the ball rolling on Trumps outlandish plan is to have the agreement from other countries that they will accept the 2 million Gazan refugees, if by some chance they left Gaza after all.. No one goes anywhere until there is a WHERE that they can go to. So far the response to the offer of accepting Gazan refugees has come back as not just “no” but more like, “Hell No! No way. Don’t even fuckin’ think about it.”
Now, maybe Trump is a moron, but that seems pretty unlikely based on the fact that he got himself re-elected as President. Given, then. that he is NOT a complete idiot the chances are moderately high that he KNEW his proposal was IMPOSSIBLE to implement, and therefore the United States would never have to actually DO any of it. (based on the three pre-conditions outlined above.
But meanwhile he has more or less interrupted a genocide that had been slaughtering dozens of innocent children every single day for over a year. However, as it stands now) I don’t think that Israel can resume fighting while Trump’s “offer” is still on the table for discussion. Will the Israeli’s accept the proposal or reject it? If they reject it then Trump is off the hook, the Israelis are on their own, and Hamas kicks their ass.
If they accept it then everybody has to go shopping for countries will to commit to accepting millions of refugees. That shopping trip could take a loooong time.
And don’t forget the big-bonus-rainbow in the sky! there is always that one chance in a few hundred trillion that EVERYBODY will agree to Trump’s “plan” and just proceed peacefully into a Beee-Yooti-Full future on the sunny Beaches of Gaza, “Riviera of the Middle East”.
February 5, 2025 at 10:47 pm #181435Dr D Rich
ParticipantThey set a new precedent in pursuit of Trump.
The Nixon comparison doesn’t apply although some of Trump’s persecutors cut their teeth during Nixon’s impeachment, Hillary Rodham Clinton.Presidents are fair game in office.
Presidents are fair game during lame duck status.
Presidents are fair game after failed impeachments, several.
Presidents are fair game to be hounded incessantly and by a pathetic cast of characters.The fact Trump is the most malignant of Malignant Narcissists in the view of liberals doesn’t undo the precedent.
And as a Malignant Narcissist, Trump won’t be satiated by anything less than scorched earth, howling wilderness and barren landscape. Yet Don deserves the same for the murder of Nawar al-Awlaki 9 years old. Were the latter to be A Precedent.
February 5, 2025 at 11:13 pm #181436D Benton Smith
ParticipantA lot of people are watching Gaza and Ukraine with high hopes, low expectations, and grim resolve. The proof of Trump will be in the pudding. You judge a tree by its fruits. Does the killing and brutal subjugation of innocent populations continue, or does it stop?
February 5, 2025 at 11:26 pm #181437Michael Reid
Participant“
It is beyond the imagination of his critics that Trump might have an overall vision, shall we say an ideology driven vision, of what he wants to achieve by all of the foregoing initiatives and that the whole is a lot more than the sum of its parts. His detractors do not look at him in this way, because they believe he is shallow, driven by narcissism and suffers from other psychological disorders. Nor do they consider that the oligarchs with whom he has surrounded himself, with Elon Musk at the top of the list, might just have that unifying vision which Trump has embraced.
“February 5, 2025 at 11:41 pm #181438Celticbiker
ParticipantOnly took 2 weeks for complete betrayal. Jews in a hurry…clean up this mess…goyim. Meet . the new traitor, same as the old traitor. Palestine is the canary. If you survive the injections and they want to stuff you in their 15 minute city, do you really think the jews will treat you differently? Borders locked down to keep you in, has that crossed your mind yet? Do you really think they established the legal structure Webb talked about only to not use it?
February 6, 2025 at 12:26 am #181440₿oogaloo
Participant@Red
Ah yes and bitcoin is backed by????? I forget!Energy. Bitcoin mining is what secures the most powerful and secure computer network in the world. You must expend energy to acquire Bitcoin. That’s probably not the answer you were expecting, but that is a very real link to the physics of the material world.
February 6, 2025 at 1:09 am #181441D Benton Smith
ParticipantWhile it’s partially true, in a sense, that Bitcoin is backed by a real-world thing, energy, that doesn’t fully describe the relationship between Bitcoin and it’s collateral or foundation. The full description is that Bitcoin is backed by the smooth running technological society which generates, distributes and very very precisely delivers that energy to networked electronic devices which require constant and ongoing care and adjustment in order to go on running smoothly and maintaining the digital systems upon which Bitcoin depends. If any of those things stops, seriously glitches or outright goes away, then the Bitcoins themselves and the complex networked computer systems needed to process and use them in transactions goes away.
So, what Bitcoin is actually backed by, to describe it as simply as possible, is the continuous smooth and glitch free running of all that stuff, and a whole lot of that stuff is pure abstraction, existing only as fleeting notions in people’s heads. Many of those notions are subject to sudden changes without notice, whereupon all that Bitcoin becomes virtually nothing at all.
February 6, 2025 at 1:19 am #181442Oroboros
Participant“…..a whole lot of that stuff is pure abstraction, existing only as fleeting notions in people’s heads. Many of those notions are subject to sudden changes without notice….”
So is the price of gold
While over centuries an ounce of gold buys a good suit, it hits high and low that are irrational within short unpredictable time frames.
“A horse, a horse! My kingdom [gold] for a horse!
Gold can’t buy you love but it buy’s a lot of hookers
February 6, 2025 at 1:26 am #181443D Benton Smith
ParticipantHere’s a peek into what the Israelis think about Trumps Gaza Takeover Deal. Very interesting. The reporter raises the same points that I did.
February 6, 2025 at 1:28 am #181444Oroboros
ParticipantBig Deportation Raids Begin In Tren De Aragua-Infested Aurora, Colorado
Pedo Jo-jo and the Demonrats would never have deported even a violent drug gangs,
Ever.
So that alone is a big improvement on specific local area.
The Woketurd Mayor of Denver and his ‘police force’ could pull their collective thumbs out of their anuses if their lives depended on it.
I’d love to see the Mayor of Denver interfere somehow so Trump could arrest him in front of the country and smoke out any sympathizers.
Ya gotta start somewhere.
The Demonrats and their Rino buttplugs couldn’t where Trump did.
Good enough beginning, we’ll see if it continues…..
February 6, 2025 at 1:31 am #181445Oroboros
ParticipantDuh’merica only has Indoctrination camps
No education really is present.
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February 6, 2025 at 1:43 am #181446Oroboros
ParticipantTrumps Gaza Takeover Deal is disgusting but you and who’s army will stop it?
Like fantasy football, what conceivable realistic collection of forces will stop him?
Get as angry as you want if it makes you feel better, it won’t change the situation.
Their will be no mass protests in Duh’merica to stop him.
He is riding a wave of support at the moment based on domestic issues, not foreign issues.
His domestic successes will shield his foreign policies. Simple as that.
The election had nothing to do with Gaza per se, minor at best, and support for IsRealHell is still quite strong.
Gaza will be memory holes because Duh’mericans have the attention span of small rodents. Period
Live with it.
Attention span deficit is a weapon. The Sheeple have been programed for a century to not be considered with anything outside a small radius of their neighborhood.
Most Duh’mericans couldn’t find Gaza on a map if their life depended on it.
It’s the ‘Department of Education’s’ biggest achievement
February 6, 2025 at 1:49 am #181447those darned kids
Participant“You must expend energy to acquire Bitcoin.”
wouldn’t planting trees make more sense?
February 6, 2025 at 1:51 am #181448those darned kids
Participant“While over centuries an ounce of gold buys a good suit, it hits high and low that are irrational within short unpredictable time frames.”
being able to trade a useless rock for a good suit is irrational.
but remember, being a successful human means doing lots of things wrong so you don’t appear wrong.
February 6, 2025 at 1:52 am #181449Oroboros
Participant$90 million in USAID funds for ‘HIV emergency relief’ in San Francisco.
Bejesus how did a ‘foreign aid’ front like USAID give and money to San Franshithole?
How many Willy Brown whore politicians get taste of that?
February 6, 2025 at 1:54 am #181450₿oogaloo
Participant@ D Benton
Those are good points, but it is important to keep in mind that the Bitcoin network is decentralized. That means that the network keeps running even if things are not running smoothly in any particular part of the world. As long as the internet is up and running somewhere, the Bitcoin network survives. Even if power is out for months and you cannot access your coins wherever you are, the network remains secure, and you will have access again if you can get to a place with internet access. Even in the event of a limited nuclear war, the network survives (unless there is a nuclear winter that kills everyone, in which case the monetary system doesn’t really matter anymore). Even if solar flares destroy most of the electronics on earth, there is enough of the bitcoin network that operates underground that the network will survive. That does not guarantee that bitcoin will retain all its value, but the main point is that decentralization is the key to its resilience. This is not magic money sitting on a handful of servers that can easily be taken out. This is the most secure and computer system in the world, distributed globally and running on tens of thousands of nodes.
Not risk free. Nothing is risk free. But the market has a way of sniffing out vulnerabilities, and the market is saying that this is one of the top ten most valuable assets in the world.
February 6, 2025 at 1:55 am #181451Oroboros
ParticipantUSAID used taxpayer money to send Hollywood celebrities to Ukraine to promote Zelensky.
Angelina Jolie got $20M,
Sean Penn $5M,
Orlando Bloom $8M,
February 6, 2025 at 1:55 am #181452those darned kids
Participant“Gaza will be memory holes because Duh’mericans have the attention span of small rodents. Period”
what about you?
will you remember?
February 6, 2025 at 2:02 am #181453those darned kids
Participantusaid budget by year.
mr
trump
had
four
years
and
did
nothing.
February 6, 2025 at 2:05 am #181454those darned kids
Participantoh, look, he did do something.
3.9$ billion to “gavi”.
hmmmm, ¿what’s that?
LOOK IT UP
February 6, 2025 at 2:11 am #181455WES
ParticipantYou’re Fired!
To the best of my knowledge,
Trump offering buy outs for government employees,
is the first legal step,
before he can start firing the remaining employees,
he wants to fire.February 6, 2025 at 2:38 am #181456citizenx
ParticipantAny criticisms of Trump, Musk et al pale by comparison to the last four years of Pedo Intel Blob Maggots.
Every day of Trump reveals how unspeakably horrifying the Bidet Reign of Cultural Terror was.Wholeheartedly agree !
Which brings us right to… Hypocrisy.
Dems, Libs, Covid cult, Toxic Feminists, lgbqtxyzemzir gay community- All massive hypocrites and Liars. Shameful and pitiful, but not forgiven.
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Those Darned Kids
Smells like Teen spirit ? Nope.
Don’t recall you melting down over Team FJB, like ever.Trump Derangement Karma Syndrome for ewe.
It’s going to be a long 4 years for ewe…
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Speaking of kids, this is sobering and a bit depressing. Well worth the time-
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Why do Americans refuse to see reality when it stares them in the face?
Well, see the video above- The Great Rewiring of Childhood: A Smartphone-Social Media Dystopia
Too many Americans are completely brainwashed with broken minds and are immune to reality.
Sad but true. I’m not even sure de-programming can make them fully human.“Like a steam locomotive rolling down the track
He’s gone, gone, and nothing’s gonna bring him back
He’s goneCat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile
Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smileGoing where the wind don’t blow so strange
Maybe off on some high cold mountain range ”February 6, 2025 at 2:54 am #181460WES
ParticipantBitcoin:
Bitcoin,
wants you to pay,
a bitcoin miner,
for wasting energy,
with nothing tangible,
to show for the effort.Do you know,
what a Bitcoin,
looks like,
or feels like,
or how big it is,
or how heavy it is?
Neither do I!So you want,
to exchange,
a bitcoin,
for something I have,
but I can’t verify,
or see,
or touch,
or feel,
that you are offering me,
a bitcoin?Gold:
Gold represents,
the energy expended,
to dig it out of the ground,
refine it,
make it into a coin,
so you can hold it,
in your hand,
or trade it,
for something else,
you want or need.Until you have held,
a one ounce silver or gold coin,
in your hand,
you don’t really know,
what real money,
feels like!Sound of Silver Coins:
Until you drop a silver coin,
One a hard surface,
you don’t really know,
the distinct sound,
of real silver money!February 6, 2025 at 3:05 am #181461WES
ParticipantApologies to MPSK for my poor poetry!
February 6, 2025 at 3:20 am #181462those darned kids
Participanthahaha, didn’t need to say a word about mr biden et al. because y’all took care of all that.
i just sat back and kinda watched you folks. what a wacky time. biden evil. very, very evil.
now, however, i am very dismayed. everything here (the only really free place on the interweebles – ¡gracias, raúl!) is rahrahrah for people who frankly have a moral gyroscope more out of whack than that of the jupiter 2.
DANGER, WILL, DANGER!
so, as to leave such things clear, below i include “the tdk u.s. presidential* true evil score” (gonna start at the age where i started to perceive ‘america’):
nixon Y minus
ford W plus
carter W
reagan X plus
big bush Y
clinton Y minus
bush Z minus
obama Z
trump W (minus that little girl, for the love of all things good**)
biden Z minus
trump why on earth is he even allowed to public office after “that little girl”?*not that they really do much.
**Out, damned spot! Out, I say! —One, two. Why, then, ’tis time to do ’t. Hell is murky! —Fie, my lord, fie! A soldier, and afeard? What need we fear who knows it, when none can call our power to account?— Yet who would have thought the old man to have had so much blood in him.
Here’s the smell of the blood still. All the perfumes of Arabia will not sweeten this little hand. Oh, Oh, Oh!
To bed, to bed. There’s knocking at the gate. Come, come, come, come. Give me your hand. What’s done cannot be undone.—To bed, to bed, to bed!
February 6, 2025 at 3:23 am #181463those darned kids
Participantplus, it’s winter. got thyme to thype.
February 6, 2025 at 3:30 am #181464₿oogaloo
ParticipantThat argument was once valid, but the economics have changed. As the bitcoin mining economics have evolved, the only way to profitably mine bitcoin nowadays is to pay pennies for electricty that has already been generated and would otherwise go to waste. Yes, the bitcoin network consumes massive amounts of energy, but it is a scavenger. It’s no skin off anyone’s back to use that energy for mining rather than let it go to waste.
As for the physical/corporeal feature of gold and silver, this is a sword that cuts both ways. Is the physical nature of gold a blessing or a curse? There are several reasons it might be considered a curse: What happens when you try to cross a border with your gold? Good luck with that. I hope your run into customs officers who are both honest and competent. In my own personal experience, when I tried to cross a border with gold, and declared it, it turned out that customs officers weren’t sure about the law. Even though I had a printout that said “no customs tax” they spent an hour on the computer before they came back and said “no customs tax, but you have to pay 10% VAT tax.” That was on the individual level. On the national level, the physical nature of gold means a hostile army can show up at your central bank — which has happened repeatedly over the years. Bitcoin is much harder to seize, and therefore discourages war, because it is harder to grab the spoils. Storing wealth in the form of a dense metal means that your wealth is that much easier to steal.
Having said all that, I do not think the question is whether to choose bitcoin or gold, as though you need to choose one or the other. It probably makes sense to have some allocation to both. After all, there is a decent chance that there could be a coordinated international currency revaluation in the not too distant future. And if that happens, the revaluation will be based on gold, not bitcoin, because central banks already widely hold gold, and gold is the reboot fulcrum of choice for TPTB!
February 6, 2025 at 4:02 am #181465those darned kids
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February 6, 2025 at 4:02 am #181466WES
ParticipantBoogaloo:
Yes, you make some good points.
But I am a hopelessly old fastened fellow, who comes from a real mining family.
I have worked in a few gold mines.
As a kid, I have wondered freely through a bullion bank’s precious metal vault, lifting bars and pincing my fingers, despite my Father’s warnings!
So, yes I caught the gold bug young!
There is no known cure for the gold virus!I don’t like bitcoin 100% traceability feature.
I caught the gold bug at a young age, so there is no hope for me!February 6, 2025 at 4:19 am #181467₿oogaloo
ParticipantWe are not that far apart. I was a gold bug before I became a bitcoin enthusiast, and I have no plans to ever sell my gold. I never had a conversion experience to bitcoiin. Rather, at some point I decided that I would stop buying more gold and put all further “hard money” savings into bitcoin. No regrets about keeping the gold, and no regrets about adding the bitcoin!
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