Debt Rattle January 20 2025
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Preemptive pardons and their history
The Supreme Court decision in 1866 specified that such pardons are for offences which are known, and the pardon may be exercised after the commission of the offences. “It extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission.”
Legal Basis for Preemptive Pardons
The legal authority for preemptive pardons in the United States is rooted in the Constitution and clarified through key judicial precedents. Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution grants the president the “Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.” This broad language has been interpreted to allow for pardons at any stage of the judicial process, including before charges are formally brought—a concept known as a preemptive pardon.
The Supreme Court’s decision in Ex Parte Garland (1866) is central to understanding the scope of this power. In this case, the Court unequivocally stated:
“The power of pardon conferred by the Constitution upon the President is unlimited except in cases of impeachment. It extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment.”My genius daughter pointed out that the vaxxines are still killing people all around the world by the millions even as we speak, and they will go on dying by those numbers into the foreseeable future, through immune collapse, cancers, blood clots and heart destruction. It’s not as though the event is all in the past, because it’s not. Each death, when it happens is a NEW crime being committed right now in present time.
To pardon a killing in advance is to make killings legal whenever it’s pardoned in advance.
Each of those deaths is a CAPITAL CRIME, committed with malice aforethought. This applies to all of those who have died in the past and all those who will die in the future as the direct result and consequence of a crime that has already been (and will continue to be) deliberately committed with full knowledge and intent of the lethality of the act.There are TWO points that I want to make here. Both points are rather extremely important.to our future well being.
The first point is that the concept of preemptive pardon is utterly insane because it negates the bedrock foundation of what law even is. If any and every law can be set aside without question then none of those laws actually exist as law.
The second point is every bit as important as the first one and the second point is that to place the power of preemptive pardon to one Authority (such as the authority known as the President of the United States) is to make that that singular authority into the Authoritarian Dictator over everyone.
Just because he’s a “nicer” authoritarian Dictator than the last one doesn’t mean that he disapproves of the idea of authoritarian dictatorship in general, because an authoritarian dictator can be any kind of dictator that he WANTS to. That’s sorta the way it works and explains why certain types of narcissistic psychopath and/or sociopath seeks the position.
In a nutshell. NO INDIVIDUAL EVER should be granted authority to override, bypass or set aside the conclusive final decision of the judicial process.
The fact that just such an abomination actually IS in the Constitution goes a long way toward explaining how we got to this pitiful state of “pardoning” career criminal murderers so that they can go on killing.
Article II, Section 2, Clause 1, commonly referred to as the Pardon Clause, states:
“The President… shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”
Ya get what ya pay for I guess.
Doc Robinson:
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Thanks for the pardon info.Those questioning the pardons don’t have a leg to stand on as far as expecting the Supreme Court to even consider such a pardon challenge.
The supreme court will simply ignore any such cases and so will lower courts.
Last minutes of presidency:
“I Believe In The Rule Of Law, But…” – Biden Pre-Emptively Pardons Fauci, Schiff, Cheney, Milley, & Family Members https://www.zerohedge.com/political/i-believe-rule-law-biden-pre-emptively-pardons-fauci-miley-jan-6-committee
If entire team on Trump’s side kept quiet and “played cool” that everything previous administration did was acceptable and waited until the Trump is inaugurated, there would not be preemptive pardons. I think.
The Constitution of the United States does not, however, grant to the President any power to set aside the laws of the physical universe, which dictates that causes come before events, not after them. It is not possible to pardon an event until it is know what the event is. Therefore “preemptive pardon” is logical nonsense because it simply can not actually be done.
So we’re back to the tired old conundrum of discerning between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. The letter of the law serves the spirit of the law, else there would be no reason for having the law in the first place. When the letter contradicts the intent, or serves to reverse the intended purposes (such as preservation of life by prohibiting murder) then it isn’t actually law at all. It’s crime.
Well, the expected FAA-compliant drones and dripping balls of molten metal did not converge on Trump as expected
…yet.
If Biden wanted to cheer everyone up with his last minute antics, he could have telegraphed that Florida Man will get a preemptive pardon on 1/19/25 for anything in the 2 weeks preceding inauguration.
Forget about unleashing the nihilists and atheists – Imagine the wacky highjinks. Alligators driving golf carts on the local bank branch roof, cool Florida Man pandemonium like that.
I’ve got a pre-emptive pardon!
Now I am taking all offers:
Give me some cash and I’ll cop to your crime-
You’ll walk, and I’ll fill my coffers!Are the unbounded pardons (Hunter’s had a time fence) forever in the past?
There’s a time stamp on these things, right?
That “ex parte” ruling certainly does not indicate unknown crimes. Think of “every offense known to the law” (which clearly does not extend to state crimes), as meaning the crime is known– not undiscovered.did robert kadlec get a pardon?
Interesting. All of the whitehouse briefing page links above have already been deleted. 404 not found.
Fauci’s pardon doesn’t extend to his underlings, so they can presumably still be prosecuted for their unlawful actions.
Fauci himself is still prosecutable for any crimes committed after today, such as lying to Congress during future investigations about the gain of function research he was involved with.
Interestingly, the pardons for Fauci, Milley, and Biden’s family members are all effective on the same date back in 2014, the year Hunter Biden started “working” for Burisma.
Most Democrats Think Their Party Sucks, Feel “Burned Out”: CNN Poll
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/most-democrats-think-their-party-sucks-feel-burned-out-cnn-polloh, that’s great. People finally seeing the light and—
Overall, just 33% of all Americans express a favorable view of the Democratic Party
So the 33% that wanted to send me off to a summer camp to help me concentrate. Unchanged, nothing new learned at all?
Democrats polled who say they want to see big changes say their party is out of touch or unresponsive…
Yes! Out of touch with normal people. And reality. Thank Go—
and that the party has not been aggressive enough in pushing back against the GOP.
oh.
But they’ll realize they’ve freaked people out, straighten up and be more of a class act, more civil, stop horrifying people wit—
They are too nice,” wrote one Democrat respondant from Maryland. “Republicans will do anything to implement their goals (while) Democrats cling to ‘norms.’ They need to become more aggressive in their approach, but not lie like the Republicans.
More aggressive with what? Hating men and anyone white? Anyone normal? With supplying arms to Israel? Toppling more governments? More aggressively giving the “undocumented” free cellphones, medical care, housing, and $25k in walking around money? Not enough yet? DOUBLE-ending free speech everywhere because it’s racist and anti-Our Democracy™?
Should have had swat teams pinning EVERYONE down and force injecting them (on the taxpayer’s dime) with EVERY experimental Pfizer drug, not just one?
Democrats are horrible at messaging,” said one Democrat woman from Arizona.
Dissatisfied with strategy and tactics. The full bore demonic screaming from every possible angle from every institution for 10 years was too mild. The 0% job growth for native-born Americans in that time – not enough! Yes, population increased against 0% job growth, but couldn’t Democrats have done MOAR? There should be MOAR. Don’t just pile up brush from 6 years of record rainfall in California, gather brush from all the other states and pile it up against the walls of California residents’ houses. Why is only L.A. burning? MOAR.
And so the healing and reconciliation begins
“Fauci’s pardon doesn’t extend to his underlings, so they can presumably still be prosecuted for their unlawful actions.”
wrong. the prep act prohibits such things. fauci needs no pardon. it’s all show.
“PREP Act guarantees of immunity are available to those who manufacture, distribute, administer, use, and coordinate drugs and devices used to combat COVID-19. “
https://www.pillsburylaw.com/en/news-and-insights/hhs-prep-act-liability-covid-19.html
have you never asked yourself,
“why would they need the military for logistics if an entire, well-functioning pharmaceutical distribution chain already existed?”
“what does the military know about pharmacies?”
The Starting Gun https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/the-starting-gun
I don’t watch much, especially not political speeches, but I did just watch Trump’s second inaugural address. It was heartfelt, nationalistic, grandiose, narcissistic and hopeful, as well as frighteningly hubristic. He did thank and honor lots of working people, and Dr. Martin Luther King, while publicly shaming half of the people on the podium, after respectfully naming them.
Trump intends to expand the US without war, while building the strongest military ever. He will lock down the borders with emergency powers, engaging the armed forces thereby to defend them and expel illegal immigrants, criminals first. He will designate drug cartels as terrorist groups and wage war upon them.
Trump-II is declaring an energy emergency in the country with the most oil and gas, to “drill, baby drill”, export more, and especially bring global manufacturing to this energetic land-of-plenty.
Rather than taxing American workers, Trump will tax foreign countries through their exports to the US. The stated goal is to repeat the success of President McKinley in building up US industry through protectionist tariffs and national infrastructure projects. Mount McKinley gets that name back. Americans will build more and better cars than ever, but not electric. There are two sexes again. The “Gulf of Mexico” is on the way out, but I’ll still call it “the gulf”, like Texans all do.
Trump repeatedly invoked God, convincingly so, as in regards to his being the chosen instrument of God to carry out the manifest destiny of America.
At one point, the way he evoked “our God”, with a pause and emphasis, made me wonder if he had referred-by-omission to Satanic forces as the implied adversary.
Prayers were by a rabbi, a cardinal and a black pastor. (I had to turn the sound off for those sermons, except for snippets. I’m just that way.)Here is the transcript: https://www.livemint.com/news/us-news/donald-trumps-full-speech-text-of-the-inaugural-speech-of-47th-president-of-us-11737399699797.html
Alex Krainer (from yesterday) It starts tomorrow: people vs. the banks, The U.K. could be in for a bumpy ride.
During the confirmation hearings of the Treasury secretary nominee Scott Bessent on Thursday, 16 January, this exchange caught my attention…
..Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex): “As you know, the market for U.S. Treasuries is the largest in the world at $28 trillion, and it’s critical for the financial stability of the United States. There’s actually a proposal for an entity to clear U.S. treasury futures at the London clearing house which is overseen by the Bank of England. Some argue that the Bank of England would have control over … a default scenario in this critical market instead of the U.S. Is this of concern to you?”
Scott Bessent: You raise a very important question and one that I will investigate further. I was unaware, until the past few days, of this with the new exchange. What I can tell you, as a student and professor of economic history, is that it is important for the U.S. – for the U.S. Treasuries, for us to be able to resolve any stress issues in the markets in the U.S. We saw during the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy, that much of the, many of the problems emanated from the U.K. subsidiary, so this is something that … my inclination is that the resolution authority must lie here in the U.S., but I will get back to you in writing with an answer on this, if confirmed...
..The first, obvious question is, why should American treasuries be cleared in London, through a clearing house under Bank of England’s control? Who wanted this to happen, and where did such a proposal originate from? Why is there no public debate about such a major development? Why are the media ignoring it? …
..What could possibly be the attraction of clearing US Treasury futures through London? For the U.S., nothing: this is yet another story exposing the hidden hand of London manipulating the internal and foreign policies of the United States...
..Scott Bessent’s mention of Lehman Brothers reminded me of another kind of manipulation described by Moolfolk.
I condensed Moolfolk’s prose in this newsletter last May:
“In broad strokes, [The Great Red Dragon] documents the takeover of the American economy by British banking interests. Their methods entailed periodically flooding the economy with credit and generating a boom. Then, when the bankers’ nets were full and everyone was in debt, the bankers would abruptly withdraw credit. The practice was simply predatory. The triggering event usually involved a high-profile bank failure, which would cause an economy-wide avalanche of bankruptcies. Large, politically connected banks would then take over choice businesses, farmland and real estate for pennies on the dollar. Within our lifetimes, the Lehman Brothers’ failure in 2008 would have been a typical example of this, but Covid pandemic response in 2020 served the same predatory purpose. During the 19th century, US economy endured three major financial crashes: in 1837, 1857, and in 1873. Each crash triggered major economic depressions with mass-scale culling of smaller banks and other businesses. The collapse enabled the ruling oligarchy to consolidate monopolies over all the key industries.”
Relinquishing control over the U.S. Treasuries market to the Bank of England could enable similar manipulations...
..In “Tragedy and Hope,” Carroll Quigley warned us that, “The powers of financial capitalism had [a] far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. … The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and direct injury of all other economic groups.”
Quigley wrote those words in 1965, suggesting that the conspiracy was discernible many decades ago. Some 18 years later (1983), Lord Jacob Rothschild suggested that, “Two broad types of giant institutions, the worldwide financial service company and the international commercial bank with a global trading competence, may converge to form the ultimate, all-powerful, many-headed financial conglomerate.” …
..The exchange between Senator Cornyn and Mr. Bessent seems to be a part of the ‘soft disclosure’ of the secretive arrangements and relationships involving Great Britain, which have influenced global events during the past decades. We’ve seen Elon Musk attack the British government in a series of searing posts on X. Donald Trump did not invite Britain’s Prime Minister to his inauguration, but he did invite the Russian and Chinese presidents...
..More than a century ago Lord Acton prophesied that, “the issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the bankers.” It may be that this fight is now upon us. It seems that the “monolithic and ruthless conspiracy” that JFK warned us about is now facing an existential struggle for survival. The signals coming out of the Trump team through these ‘soft disclosure’ communiques may be foreshadowing what is to come. https://alexkrainer.substack.com/p/it-starts-tomorrow-people-vs-the The Honest Sorcerer, The Red Giant
Having lost its internal equilibrium the Sun will eventually transform into a red giant, scorching then absorbing all inner planets…
..There is no such thing as a post-industrial economy, though. Even if a country ceases to produce all the stuff it consumes, it has to import them from somewhere, lest it becomes a truly post-industrial nation — one without an economy to speak of (at least in modern terms). The “service economy” representing 72% of US GDP still consumes houses, products, raw materials and energy — produced only partially by the remaining 28% of the economy — necessitating the import of cars, pharmaceuticals and even crude oil to make up for the difference. To make things worse (or rather, as a result of turning every economic activity into a “service”), now basically every part of the economy carries a massive administrative overburden. A class of non-productive, but nonetheless actively consuming workers, and not just in the government. (Which is none of their fault, mind you: it is the fundamentally broken economic system which necessitates such an uptick in unproductive activity, not workers demanding BS jobs.)
The biggest overburden of all, however, is the owner class itself: America’s billionaires (or as economist Michael Hudson likes to call them: ‘the rentier class’)...
..Securing oil is why annexing Canada and Greenland is a national security concern for the US, not their potential to be used as military outposts (these states are US military allies anyway)... So, would arctic oil help the US economy out? Not likely. The true reason to annex these two territories and their oil reserves would be thus to add more assets on the balance sheets of investment companies — such as BlackRock — against which unfettered lending and credit issuance could keep on going, to continue stimulating a faltering economy just a little longer. https://thehonestsorcerer.substack.com/p/the-red-giant Paul Craig Roberts may not be asking quite the right question: Can Trump Make A Difference?
As a congressional staffer in both House and Senate I experienced the power almost daily. I still remember the day when I was on the floor of the US Senate and Strom Thurmond, the fourth longest serving senator in US history, tapped me on the shoulder. A vote was before the Senate whether to partially pay for a reduction in marginal income tax rates by reducing a military appropriation. Senator Thurmond said to me: “Don’t ever let your senator vote for a reduction in military spending. If he does, he won’t be reelected, and you will be out of a job.” He brought clarity to me that survival as a senator meant accommodating the profits of the armaments corporations, not the living standards of the taxpayers.
Thurmond, who served in the Senate for almost half a century, was no novice. He was educating me that whatever the interest of Wall Street and the financial sector in lower tax rates, their power was less than that of the military/security complex. As sometimes there were conflicts between the interests of lobby groups, it was important for a Senate staffer to know the hierarchy of power rankings...
..Tulsi Gabbard is Trump’s nominee for Director of National Intelligence. As a member of the House, she was a strong critic of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, legislation that I am convinced is unconstitutional and the foundation of a police state… In 2020 together with Rep. Thomas Massie, the only independent member of the House today, she introduced a bill to repeal the entire Patriot Act, a police state measure imposed on us by the Republican regime of Bush/Cheney…
..Clearly, Gabbard had targets painted all over her. Both Democrat and Republican senators have made it clear to her that any repeal or lax enforcement of “national security” legislation must be disavowed if she expects the Senate to confirm her in office. Gabbard got the message and backed off her opposition to the unconstitutional surveillance of Americans…
..Commentators unfamiliar with Washington are denouncing Gabbard for “selling out”… It is so much easier to denounce than to understand. I often think that Americans do not want to understand how things really work, because it is so distressing. So they stay in denial, and this renders them useless in bringing change and protecting their liberties.
Tell me before you condemn Tulsi Gabbard, would you rather have her, a person fiercely opposed by the military/security complex, or a person to whom the military/security complex has no opposition? Tulsi can tell the blackmailing bought-and-paid-for US Senate one thing and do another once she is in office. I would bet on her integrity, not denounce it. It is the US Senate that is devoid of integrity. https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2025/01/19/can-trump-make-a-difference/Celia Farber on Border Czar, Tom Homan: Tom Homan Has Declared War On Drug Cartels, Says He Expects To Be Sued “Every Day” By Democrats, But Cares Zero. For Years He’s Seen The Horrors Of Open Birder: Women Raped, Dead Kids https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/tom-homan-has-declared-war-on-drug
Trump team preparing early talks with Putin
Donald Trump’s team is preparing a phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin, which could come shortly after the president-elect’s inauguration, CNN reported on Sunday, citing sources. According to people familiar with the matter interviewed by the network, the primary aim of the call would be to discuss a possible face-to-face meeting in the coming months, to explore ways to resolve the Ukraine conflict. https://swentr.site/russia/611278-trump-team-preparing-talks-putin/ Putin Says Trump Will Help Prevent WW3 In Inauguration Day Congratulations Message
”We hear [Trump’s] statements on the need to prevent World War III. We undoubtedly welcome such a disposition and congratulate the elected U.S. president.”
“Of course, we welcome such an attitude and congratulate the elected US president on taking office,” he continued, explaining that Moscow has never “refused dialogue” with the United States. He said any fresh dialogue must be done on an “equal and mutually respectful basis.” https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-says-trump-will-help-prevent-ww3-congratulations-issued-inauguration-day He’s pretty hopeful, but I’m not as sure: Soros ‘lost the battle in America’ – Orban
Donald Trump has “liberated” the country from the influence of the globalist mogul, forcing him to retreat to Europe, the Hungarian prime minister has said https://www.rt.com/news/611224-orban-soros-lost-battle-us/We’re all waiting for confirmation of what we already know. Trump vows to release JFK, RFK and MLK assassination records https://swentr.site/news/611283-trump-release-assassination-records/
Israel Releases First 90 Palestinian Prisoners in Exchange for Hostages https://sputnikglobe.com/20250120/israel-releases-first-90-palestinian-prisoners-in-exchange-for-hostages-1121468560.html
Palestinians trek across rubble to return to their homes as Gaza ceasefire takes hold https://www.arabnews.com/node/2587028/middle-east
First aid trucks enter Gaza from Egypt as ceasefire takes effect https://en.gmw.cn/2025-01/20/content_37806814.htm
Stealing water: Israel’s covert war on Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan
Taking advantage of the chaos following Damascus’s fall, Israel’s seizure of Syria’s Al-Mantara Dam showcases the long-standing Zionist strategy to secure regional water dominance, exacerbating tensions across an already parched West Asia. https://thecradle.co/articles/stealing-water-israels-covert-war-on-syria-lebanon-and-jordanWho do these guys represent, again? Syria’s Al Qaeda Branch Intercepts Iranian Drones and Armaments Being Smuggled to Hezbollah in Lebanon https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/syria-intercepts-iranian-drones-armaments-smuggled-hezbollah
Syrian Kurdish site:
Including women and media activists | Over 100 civilians killed and wounded in 19 days in Turkish airstrikes near Tershreen dam https://www.syriahr.com/en/353984/ Rothschild mouthpiece, Financial Times, has a free article by Peter Thiel calling for more-truth-than-usual, and “reconciliation. A time for truth and reconciliation
Trump’s return to the White House augurs the apokálypsis of the ancien regime’s secrets. The new administration’s revelations need not justify vengeance — reconstruction can go hand in hand with reconciliation. But for reconciliation to take place, there must first be truth. The apokálypsis is the most peaceful means of resolving the old guard’s war on the internet, a war the internet won. https://www.ft.com/content/a46cb128-1f74-4621-ab0b-242a76583105“I Believe In The Rule Of Law, But…” – Biden Pre-Emptively Pardons Fauci, Schiff, Cheney, Milley, & Family Members https://www.zerohedge.com/political/i-believe-rule-law-biden-pre-emptively-pardons-fauci-miley-jan-6-committee
Waiting for Trump’s virtual appearance, while protected by military aircraft overhead: WEF Davos 2025 – More Grotesque Than Ever. Robotizing and Depopulating
The 2025 Davos Forum will run under the theme of ‘Collaboration for the Intelligent Age’, which will encompass five “distinct but highly interconnected thematic priorities”, the WEF says on its website.
Rebuilding trust
Reimagining growth
Investing in people
Safeguarding the planet, and
Industries in the intelligent age https://www.globalresearch.ca/wef-davos-2025-more-grotesque-than-ever/5877695Kyle Young has lots of photos and some videos, all with analysis: Detailed forensic evidence supporting the use of DEW’s in the L.A. fires https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/detailed-forensic-evidence-supporting
However far you can stand reading is probably enough. Avoid “Nutra-Sweet”: The Story of Aspartame
How the additive got approved via corruption at the expense of the public’s health. https://wethefree.substack.com/p/the-story-of-aspartame 6 Lawsuits Filed Today Accuse Makers of Children’s Fluoride Toothpaste of Violating Federal Law
Children’s toothpaste brands Crest and Colgate/Tom’s of Maine, and mouth rinse brands Act, Tom’s of Maine, Firefly and Hello deceptively market their products, which contain fluoride, as “extra safe for children,” according to six class action lawsuits filed today in California and Illinois. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/class-action-lawsuits-kids-fluoride-toothpaste-makers/ Most cases of measles are caused by measles vaccine. No Proof MMR Vaccine Is ‘Safer’ than Measles, Mumps or Rubella Infection, Physician Group Says
The risk of permanent disability or death from the MMR vaccine may be greater than the risk from a measles, mumps or rubella infection because large enough vaccine safety studies haven’t been done, according to a collection of new documents released by Physicians for Informed Consent. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/measles-mumps-rubella-infection-mmr-vaccine-risk/ Official Czech Republic record level data released Nov 2024 confirms Moderna has nearly 50% higher All Cause Mortality than Pfizer
For the first time in human history, a national government has voluntarily released record level data for vaccine. Epidemiologists worldwide IGNORE this data. https://kirschsubstack.com/p/official-czech-republic-record-levelGood! RFK Pressures Trump to Ban Direct-to-Consumer Pharma Advertising https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2025-01-19/report-rfk-pressures-trump-ban-direct-consumer-pharma-advertising
She knows her way around the blob very well. Trump Names Heather Flick, Corporate Attorney & Pharma Patent Holder as Chief of Staff for HHS Secretary https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/trump-names-heather-flick-corporate-attorney-pharma-patent-holder-as-chief-of-staff-for-hhs-secretary-c409f9de
In an alternate scenario in which Trump did the inauguration outside:
Newscaster: “My God! It’s a million strange yet FAA compliant drones and weird dripping molten metal spheres flying back and forth pointlessly!! The humanity!!!”
Innocent Bystander: “But why are you all dialing your video down to 144p and waving your phones around while taking video? Shouldn’t you set them for MAXIMUM quality and hold them steady???”
Everyone Else: “You don’t get it.”
Innocent Bystander looks over at where the TV news film crew has set up for the event with professional grade equipment and sees they have begun wildly gyrating their cameras.
I posted this nearly identical comment in the Godspeed DJT edition of this same day, but thought that it’s actually more pertinent to this stream.
“I’m wondering how a preemptive pardon might actually work (procedurally speaking) in an actual Grand Jury, Prosecutor’s Office or Court Room.
Does the person of interest tell the Grand Jury, “I don’t have to answer any questions because I have an unconditional pardon, in advance, for anything and everything that you might ask me about.”
Does the District Attorney not even launch an investigation into missing funds and several suspiciously dead bodies because the suspected perpetrator has a “preemptive” Presidential Pardon which forgives any and all crimes at any and all times?
And can a jury find a murderer guilty of a provenly premeditated killing (injecting a known to be deadly Vaxxine, for example) when the hit was ordered by a person who has been presidentially pardoned for intentionally creating the known-to-be-deadly injection and forcing other people to use it? (Anthony Fauci springs to mind).
This is a serious question. Just HOW does a carte blanche pardon work in the real world of law enforcement and jurisprudence? Imprudently, I think, or not at all.”
Incidentally, anyone who accepts the pardon thereby forfeits the right to remain silent under the 5th Amendment, because if they cannot be incriminated of an offense they then have no grounds for the plea of self-incrimination. Double edged dirk. Right between ribs and into their lying heart.
D.R.: “Fauci’s pardon doesn’t extend to his underlings, so they can presumably still be prosecuted for their unlawful actions.”
tdk: wrong. the prep act prohibits such things. fauci needs no pardon. it’s all show.
Don’t give up yet. According to that link about the PREP Act, the liability protections are only for Covid-19 countermeasures which are also approved by the FDA or otherwise authorized (such as with an EUA).
Fauci and his underlings were involved with gain of function research and other questionable activities beyond the Covid-19 umbrella.
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