Debt Rattle June 28 2024
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June 28, 2024 at 9:00 am #162277Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
Ivan Aivazovsky Lake Maggiore 1892 • US Rep. Gosar: Biden Debate Performance Shows He’s Unfit to Be President (Sp.) • Biden Campaign Refuses To
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 28 2024]June 28, 2024 at 10:44 am #162280tbocParticipantI see a line of cars
And they’re all painted black
With flowers and my love
Both never to come back – Jagger/RichardsJune 28, 2024 at 10:48 am #162281OroborosParticipantTRUMP DID NOTHING TO FREE ASSANGE IN FOUR YEARS
There, it’s been said
Orange Jesus won’t save anyone or anything.
He can be talked in and out of anything by the people he picks to surround him.
Maggots
June 28, 2024 at 10:50 am #162282OroborosParticipantHang them from the nearest lamp post
June 28, 2024 at 10:56 am #162283Dr. DParticipant“If You’re Shot, Robbed, Or Assaulted In Chicago, There’s A 50/50 Chance There’ll Be No Police To Respond To Your 911 Call
Again, when seconds count, the police are never coming. Never. Not in an hour, not in a day, never.
…So keep payin’ those taxes, boys.
Surgeon General declares guns a public health emergency. Which of these two things are regulated in the Constitution: 1) Guns. 2) Health ? Trick question!! they have jurisdiction over neither. Neither is what they should be focusing on, being in charge of defense, the post office, and the border.
Another company commits suicide, dedicated to hate: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/warner-brothers-cnn-disaster/
Not over the horizon yet, but I don’t see why they’d stop.
Ze and 2nd Peace Summit: that’s over the event horizon. But what Ze is saying is illegal! It’s against the law to talk peace. (Also, he’s not an elected leader, he’s a civilian.)
“Nobody voted to allow European bureaucrats to change Europe’s demographics. Europe is being invaded and its population is being replaced.”
Not “replaced”. They’re still there, but doing nothing to help themselves. You CAN enclave, become the Amish, a parallel society, stop backstabbing each other and persist if you want. I say that here too. Or with Christians either. There’s nothing they like better than backstabbing and trashing each other; Definitely what you want on a sinking ship where we’re lowering lifeboats.
Other parts too: 1) Top focus of Brexit was immigration. Therefore when the people voted Brexit they stopped even pretending to limit them and opened the borders entirely, adding what 10M, immediately, as fast as was humanly possible? Such that even the busses and highways are full and halted? But there’s a Democracy and the Conservative Party means something. 2) A enormous number of immigrants have special legal status and are not citizens. Therefore, there is no legal issue in deporting all of them. They are welcome citizens of their own home countries and are merely Visa (or not Visa) workers. I can’t go to Italy and expect to vacation the rest of my life either, and when my Visa is not renewed, I need to return to South Newark with a homicide rate exceeding Africa and not pretend I’m an “Asylum”.
No? Why is it fair for me and not for them? Because you’re racist? Because there are opportunities in America? Yeah, there are in Central Asia or Africa too, with 1B people and a continent the size of China and Europe combined. They’re booming.
“[Biden] has the southern border in better condition than when former President Donald Trump was in office.”
It’s just breathtaking, isn’t it? This was Trump’s like sole, –thingie he turned the dial even slightly on. Fought hourly in the news for all four years. NOPE! Never happened! The thing that happened all four years we reported never happened.
…And you wonder why Americans act insane. We’ve been driven crazy. No one can defend against this infinite line of lies and gaslighting, I don’t care who you are. At least Jesus could retreat to the desert, where would we go?
And as said: They are letting in 10M – exactly of course because when we don’t stop or interdict them, we know exactly how many. And ALSO there is a huge national security threat from … somewhere, some mysterious location, from — for some reason – there seem to be a million Chinese, Russians, and Central Asians like F-stanis here. FBI werry, werry worried. Huh. BothNeitherAi. The thing we just reported is happening isn’t happening while it’s happening.
Okay, suppose you have your head on straight and know it’s happening: what do you DO, as an American about it? Go shoot people? You tell me, genius. We’re already voting the other way, and we already know voting doesn’t matter. Look at Brexit, or voting anti-war for everyone since Nixon. (“Who is coming. So we’re finally on our way.”)
“The Trump campaign also wants to know why Biden needs an entire week to prepare for a 90 minute debate, and exactly who is running the country in the meantime.”
Okay, trying to get out of the lies for 60 seconds, BIDEN ISN’T RUNNING THE COUNTRY. Right?
AND NEITHER WAS TRUMP.
Got it? Wait: if NEITHER was running anything, making decisions, getting their decisions enacted, WHO has been running things for 8 years, if not since Eisenhower? Huh. You figure it out.
“Who is running the country in the meantime?” Hahahahaha. I remember them asking if anyone in all America though the government wasn’t already too large under Carter and we’ve 10x’d then. Probably 30x with contractors, all Google, Amazon, etc. You notice everytime we add government things get much better, right? Socialism is the answer.
“• Justice Alito Dissent Says Majority ‘Shirks’ Duty in Free Speech Case (ET)
Don’t worry the court will save you. Be sure to vote and fight really hard about who get appointed! Is this one of those times we obey the court who is really smart, or a time when we ignore and defy them because they’re stupid? It’s an even-numbered day, putting it on my calendar.
As an aside, it’s PROBABLY ILLEGAL for the USSC to just no hear cases. They don’t wanna. Like, you can just not defend the border ‘cause you don’t wanna, not be a navy but a gay nightclub ‘cause you don’t wanna. Unlike Marbury v Madison, where the USSC “just made stuff up” by claiming co-equal power to decide Constitutionality (I agree, but this was not decided, ratified or written anywhere), the USSC “just decided” they can hear or not hear cases. Like, I send this car-theft to court, and the judge says, “Nah, I got a golf tournament Saturday, I’m not hearing the case. Dismissed.” In practical terms, there IS a problem, since the Feds shouldn’t be doing anything in the first place – all powers are with the states – there are only 9 men to do this with the addition of 37 States and 250M people since 1800 – but that just means you need some other means to do you d—n job and pass an amendment if necessary.
Saying what we do is expedient and mostly works but is probably all illegal. Like usual. There are 1,000 cases a year should probably be heard by the USSC, but they simply refuse them. And so it takes 10 years and several million dollars to get there – like Armstrong being held in life sentence for mere contempt – then toss it out anyway.
“• Want to Defeat Joe Biden? Make Free Speech the Key Issue in 2024 (Turley)That won’t work, more than half the people don’t want free speech – if it allows the other guy to speak.
We’ve well covered this, as Turley says, this means they ban even TRUE things. Like Assange, or TRUE facts about Covid, wars, that they don’t prefer or are embarrassing. That’s APART from nobody knowing what is “True” in the first place: that’s why we have free speech and discuss it, work it out.
“as he evaded lawful extradition requests.”You’re a joke. They were not “Lawful” in the slightest: that was the problem. 1st, Julian is not a citizen, not residing nor based in the U.S., the un-lawful jurisdiction over all humans planetwide. No. 2nd he was a publisher, doing what is established for 200 years as lawful, legal journalism under 1A in the first place. EVEN in America, EVEN as a citizen. It’s hard to imagine a more breathtakingly unlawful request every made in U.S. history. That’s the point.
So there are two kinds of people: People who think they’re in The Club, that includes government, and defend them because They R Us…and everybody else, like the other 7.8 Billion.
This is aside from every OTHER arrest warrant being illegal, as Sweden admitted. Julian was technically on “jumping bail” – as a foreign national, which should be like 90 days? Deported?
“Mainstream Democrats and Republicans were equally keen to put Assange in prison.”
Including Trump. And Snowden. And classified JFK documents, and everything else too that would make an informed electorate.
“• US Uses National Security ‘As A Veil To Hide War Crimes’ – Assange Lawyer (RT)
As above, those in The Club, classify everything. Somehow we have this child-like perception that being “Classified” documents means literally anything at all. They “Classify” which donuts they bought for the meeting of the Junior Paper Clip purchaser’s Club because it’s easier. Nothing that exists can be de-classified because you would need to re-read it all then re-ask everyone involved. I think when this was done 90% was de-classified but that’s even WITH a stupidly pro-classification bias and years delay. I’d expect it could be 99.9% easy. But then we’d have an informed electorate that would be really pissed off with what you’ve been doing.
Now as other Assange articles said, the Cable leaks are a HUGE win for foreign intel services, who can then have a True-True point to confirm their Intelligence suspicions and play the Diplo-game far more perfectly, evading and harming us. Which donuts might be a key clue as it would say who was in the meeting that day. Too bad, I guess, maybe you should ask why you suck so bad and have so little support from your own staff that they would risk their lives to screw you hollow. Like because you’re promoting idiotic, illegal, self-defeating foreign wars and talking about pizza and hot dogs all day? THAT is the problem: YOU.
Narcissists and Governments can never see themselves as the problem, and there’s a reason for that correlation. This is after 100 solid years of every time they touch anything, then a minute later even pizzas can’t be delivered right, your car costs $50,000 and was still on 9th recall and shut off remotely etc.
Thanks, government. Even having Ford Pintos blowing up was only 1/100th as dangerous as you.
“• Russia Considers Downgrading Diplomatic Relations With The West (RT)
In opposite news, when Russia said “We are no longer at peace” and “We are going to retaliate against the U.S. personally” Lord Austen picked up the d—n phone and called Russia that day. We won’t know what they said, but the diplo-release was that “They affirm to keep communication open, and enforce that the duty of diplomatic relations and embassies”, etc. Good.
“PCR thinks Putin should kill more Ukrainians. Putin does not.”
PCR is an American so there’s nobody on earth he doesn’t want to kill loosely. He’s in government, so he would take action on this, unlike the rest of the 330M who couldn’t be arsed to bother even if you were on fire. …For better or worse.
“After 2.5 years of conflict, Putin has made no effort to win the war. He doesn’t even seem to understand that Russia is at war”
PCR, entirely lost as usual. Putin is a LEGAL mind. Don’t know why or how he got there, but that’s how he founds his thinking. Aside from Russia now mopping up the FOURTH Ukr army, Okay, Paul, IF Russia were to declare a war, what are the legal effects? What policies and measures become activated? Oh that’s right, IF it is a WAR THEN the International Law of War comes into play. Ukraine becomes a total war target, BUT ALSO EVERYONE HELPING THEM, under Russian law.
Therefore immediate declaration of war against all Europe, NATO, the United States, and as targets are picked, 6 hours later complete nuclear annihilation. Wot a genius.
Putin is the only guy on the board not saving Ukrainians – which he is (he could nuke them in the first 15 minutes, 3 years ago) but Putin is saving YOU, the Americans, Brits, etc. so you can sit around, drink fine coffee and complain. He just saved your life, can’t you be a LITTLE appreciative?
If he’d ask the question of if Russia understands why Putin acts this way is easy: they do. And they were soft on the West, not believing they were really this evil. Putin’s approach allowed them to get up to speed even on WHY he took this position. Now they are slowly anti-West and wildly Pro-Russian, a deep and substantial, unprecedented national change. That’s as big a transformation for them as going from Tzar to Soviet.
“• EU Nominates Hawk For Next Top Diplomat (RT)
Estonian chihuahua. She personally is going to attack, conquer, chop up, and destroy all Russia. Al-rightie then! No one will stop ‘til they’re shown. Like every day up to now. So we’ll demonstrate.
“• EU To Put Brakes On Kiev’s Exports – FT (RT)
Government: so government is stealing €419 ($448) per ton of white sugar in order to take the revenue from that tariff and hand $50B of it back to Ukraine, pay every worker, fund every pension, and give free health care. Can they do that to my State? Appreciate it. No €419 is too high when that means you pay €10,000/tonne back to me in welfare.
…Meanwhile, a swarm of paper-pushers eat up our sustenance, as the Declaration said.
“• Zelensky Regime Willing to Sacrifice Own People for Anti-Russia Crusade (Sp.)
This just in! Breaking news!
“Thomas speculated Moscow could implement a no-fly zone over the Black Sea, where drones have gathered targeting information for Ukrainian strikes.”
That’s actually a really good idea. The U.S. will send fighter jets from Romania to shoot them down, however, (international waters) then Russia will have to level those airbases. Etc. But in concept it’s least-bad and very possible.
“Watching the attorneys make such ludicrous, dishonest arguments with a straight face while seeking to destroy the ballots and charge us fees for winning arguments in court against them only serves to remind me of the massive Fulton County corruption that threatens the voting rights of every Georgian.”
Yeah, what’s going on in Georgia? Can’t you guys get these pirates back under control? Oh, wait: you do that by ELECTING people. Got it.
“This is why CNN won’t allow an audience for tonight’s debate”
Heard it commented, that being in a debate in an empty room – nobody, nada, a pin could drop – had that uncanny valley effect. There’s no one to play to, no one to gasp at a gaffe, no idea if anything said is hitting the mark. That is to say, a fake debate, crowning every other part up to now being faked, one by one. …Was also said they were shutting off BIDEN’s mike for a reason, not Trump’s.
“COVID Is Surging Right Now. Here’s What Alarms Doctors the Most.
Infectious disease experts share what’s different about this latest wave and what to know about the new variants.” — HuffPostYou’re kidding right? Is this 2024 article? Still at it? “The increase in cases also doesn’t appear to be causing an uptick in hospitalizations. “There’s no evidence they’re more severe than what we’ve been dealing with,” Hopkins said.”
So…it does nothing. Like the last years. Also them:
“The COVID Summer Wave Is Here and Hospitalizations Are Soaring—How Long It Will Last?”
So Soaring = Nothing. No hospital = Infinity hospital. No one notices because they haven’t heard a not-lie in 40 years.
June 28, 2024 at 11:01 am #162284OroborosParticipantTrump did nothing to shut down “Project Ukronaziland” in four years
He won’t do a thing now because the Trust Horizon with Russia (and China and Iran and BRICS and the Global Majority) has been permanently destroyed for at least a full generation.
Poverty, financial collapse and depression await the Empire of Lies.
What sane person would want to head up that Sad Circus?
A narcissist or a clown
June 28, 2024 at 11:01 am #162285CelticbikerParticipantThe obscenity and absurdity will continue until morale improves. The money is dying As their system of control collapses, they open the Gates of Hell.
June 28, 2024 at 11:26 am #162286those darned kidsParticipantWE NEED THOSE MACHINES!
June 28, 2024 at 11:32 am #162287those darned kidsParticipanthey, world, let’s tune in to see america’s best and brightest! who will guide us through the perils of a planet populated by dictators and demagogues!? who will america choose to save us from injustice and servitude?!
to whit:
BIDEN: Well, anyway, that’s – anyway, just take a look at what he says he is and take a look at what he is.
Look, I’d be happy to have a driving contest with him. I got my handicap, which, when I was vice president, down to a 6.
And by the way, I told you before I’m happy to play golf if you carry your own bag. Think you can do it?
TRUMP: That’s the biggest lie that he’s a 6 handicap, of all.
BIDEN: I was 8 handicap.
TRUMP: Yeah.
BIDEN: Eight, but I have – you know how many…
TRUMP: I’ve seen your swing, I know your swing.
(CROSSTALK)
BASH: President Trump, we’re going to…
(CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: Let’s not act like children.
BIDEN: You are a child.
THAT’S WHY WE TRUST YOU GUYS WITH THE NUKES!
we’re in good hands.
June 28, 2024 at 11:35 am #162288those darned kidsParticipant“nuclear war, it’s a motherfucker” ~ sun ra
June 28, 2024 at 12:55 pm #162289WESParticipantWill we see Joe today?
Or is Joe suffering a drug hangover?
Or is Joe going cold turkey?
Joe won big in Canada!June 28, 2024 at 1:01 pm #162290John DayParticipantI vote for “Macron & Zelensky” video today. #1
Michelle is the choice for Obama’s 4th term.
June 28, 2024 at 1:05 pm #162291a kullervoParticipantFree Energy ⟹ Energy delivery > Energy consumption
This cannot be, because in the Universe (as we perceive it)
Energy delivered = Energy consumed
… (conservation . flux . dissipation)
… (eating . The OroborO . eats)June 28, 2024 at 1:13 pm #162292John DayParticipantNo adrenochrome or amphetamine or Noopept https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/nootropics
drug testing for Open Mouth Joe :-0June 28, 2024 at 2:08 pm #162293jb-hbParticipantI was amazed when Joe fired off with the “Fine People” hoax AND the Democrat activist fake Tiki Torch Carrying KKK-Nazis in the same breath.
And went on to say “you can watch the video of it.” Anyone who watches the video of it will see Trump clearly delineate who he thinks are awful people and who he thinks are fine people – specifically excluding awful people from his fine people comment.
So encouraging people to watch it was strange, unless his handlers thought saying “you can watch it” will dissuade people from watching it.
Then again, my wife, who does not watch mainstream news and does not go on social media, nevertheless thought Trump had said Nazi-KKK’s are fine people. I guess from everyone at work that DOES watch the news and use social media?
So I said fine, let’s pull it up on Youtube, it’ll only take like 60 seconds. We watch it. He clearly says certain things, does not say others, clearly says who is BAD, NOT included as fine people….
a couple minutes later while we are talking, she blurts out “But he said that nazi-kkk r Fine People!!!”
Okay. Let’s try again. Concentrate this time. Try to remember afterwards.
Social Proof seems to count for A LOT. Socially, Trump said Nazis = fine people, Social Facts > Fact Facts.
I thought Biden was surprisingly lucid if unbearable. And he seemed to go through phases of having more zip intermittently throughout the debate.
I’ll bet they had him hooked up to one of those walkman-sized drug dispensers that you can hook people up to, to inject drugs on a schedule. I imagine they had a ramp-up of increasing drug intake over time – largest dose was probably no sooner than the 60 minute mark.
It was interesting that the debate went over the 90 minutes scheduled and Biden seemed to finally have a true 404 error in overtime – like, they’d timed the drugs PERFECTLY.
June 28, 2024 at 2:14 pm #162294jb-hbParticipantF-16’s flying overhead all last week. Sometimes at night. At least 2 flights of them passed over just now.
I can tell it’s them even with cloud cover now – they have a slightly higher pitched, fizzy sound compared to the occasional F-18’s. Probably due to the single engine.
June 28, 2024 at 2:21 pm #162295zerosumParticipantIn a few words.
a new pretense
1. Shifting/rearrangement Chaos and Control
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Joe Biden’s debate performance demonstrated he was mentally unfit to be the representative.
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A Constant – NOT accepting truth and responsibility
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democracy is not on the ballot this election, free speech is.
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a massive censorship system funded and directed by the government.
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They will have to overcome a news media that has been complicit in the attacks on free speech,
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People Power – Elections is time for the public to decide.
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Assange was guilty of leaking embarrassing secrets. “aggression abroad and repression at home”. The Julian Assange saga has clearly shown that the US has been using its “national security” as a “veil” to hide war crimes.
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When the Soviet Union collapsed, Russia, especially the youth, were corrupted for years by Washington’s propaganda. They lost their national consciousness and became “citizens of the West.” Has Russian youth escaped from this delusion, or does it still rule?
To pretend that such a conflict is a “limited military operation” is an act of irresponsibility, even evidence of reality denial. Russia is at war with the West.
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regardless of who wins the election, problems will bubble over and overcome controls.
———–June 28, 2024 at 2:22 pm #162296John DayParticipantSuddenly in my inbox, and I don’t even pay them:
From The New York Times
June 28, 2024Practically in despair after President Biden’s debate performance, some Democrats are privately discussing whether it is too late to persuade the president to step aside in favor of a younger candidate.
June 28, 2024 at 2:24 pm #162297Autonomous UnitParticipantthe free energy video is stupid. It takes energy to make a hunk of metal a magnet, and magnets lose their magnetism of time. They can make a nice desktop toy, though.
June 28, 2024 at 2:24 pm #162298jb-hbParticipant“SmartDose® 10 Injector offers a wearable subcutaneous injector with an integrated drug delivery system…”
June 28, 2024 at 2:25 pm #162299John DayParticipantQuoth jb-hb:
“I thought Biden was surprisingly lucid if unbearable. And he seemed to go through phases of having more zip intermittently throughout the debate.I’ll bet they had him hooked up to one of those walkman-sized drug dispensers that you can hook people up to, to inject drugs on a schedule. I imagine they had a ramp-up of increasing drug intake over time – largest dose was probably no sooner than the 60 minute mark.
It was interesting that the debate went over the 90 minutes scheduled and Biden seemed to finally have a true 404 error in overtime – like, they’d timed the drugs PERFECTLY.”
June 28, 2024 at 3:01 pm #162300zerosumParticipantWho are the allies/friend?
In a surprise development, the United States and Israel are currently in negotiations to send eight Patriot air defense systems from Israel to Kiev. Ukraine has for months been eyeing Israel’s retired Patriots, but they still could be needed by Tel Aviv given the country is on the brink of full-blown war with Hezbollah along its northern border and possible bigger confrontation with Iran.
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One week ago, a Biden administration statement revealed that it is pausing all shipments of Patriot interceptor missiles to foreign countries and redirecting them to Ukraine. US National Security Council spokesman John Kirby confirmed that the “difficult but necessary decision” of prioritizing the delivery of Patriot and NASAM missiles to Ukraine has been made, thus revealing the level of desperation amid the Russian aerial onslaught.
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Copilot Using the web
The cost of supplying eight Patriot air defense systems would be substantial. Let’s break it down:System Cost: A newly produced Patriot battery (which includes the launching system, control station, ground radar unit, generators, and antennas) costs about $400 million12. Since you’re interested in eight systems, that’s 8 x $400 million = $3.2 billion.
Missile Cost: Each interceptor missile for the Patriot system costs approximately $4 million3. With eight systems, you’d need a significant number of missiles. Assuming an average of 16 missiles per system (a conservative estimate), that’s 128 missiles. The total cost for the missiles would be 8 x 128 x $4 million = $4.096 billion.
Total Cost: Adding the system cost and missile cost, the total cost for eight Patriot air defense systems would be approximately $7.296 billion.
Keep in mind that these figures are estimates, and actual costs may vary based on factors like training, logistics, and maintenance. The Patriot system is indeed effective but comes with a hefty price tag.June 28, 2024 at 3:15 pm #162301zerosumParticipantEyes in the sky.
https://x.com/squatsons/status/1806664423521570966June 28, 2024 at 3:25 pm #162304jb-hbParticipantHow are Democrats “panicking” NOW?
Biden was surprisingly on the ball! Stringing together paragraphs of sentences consistently on the same topic, intelligible, on topic vis a vis the debate questions. Long answers delivered without stutter, as if they were being read off a teleprompter or memorized.
How did they get him to stop squinting? Botox? Whatever way they did it, he didn’t even do the Biden Megasquint.
How are they saying he was disastrous???? Yes, Biden IS a wreck and has been for some time, but I’m dumbfounded while being not surprised at all by the news cycle today. By any sane comparison to what was reportedly, repeatedly drilled into our heads was ranging from adequate to good performance from him in recent years, last night Biden kicked ass.
Will we see ANY cognitive dissonance surrounding the about-face? Or is it just the next NPC download, no worries?
June 28, 2024 at 3:34 pm #162305kultsommerParticipantJune 28th – 110 years ago in Sarajevo.
T’was like yesterday.June 28, 2024 at 3:53 pm #162306OroborosParticipantBill Gates Is Investing “Billions” In The New Wave Of Nuclear Powerhttps://www.zerohedge.com/markets/bill-gates-investing-billions-new-wave-nuclear-power
“Mr. I Know What’s Best For The Entire World” Gates
In Woketardistan the inmates already have been sold that loving war is Good, while hating ‘hate’.
Nuclear power can be sold as ‘greener than green’.
The Green Nazi Mind Meld
“As we have been noting for months, urgency for clean energy has intensified due to the tech sector, especially Artificial Intelligence, consuming massive amounts of energy.
Advocates emphasize its immense clean energy potential, proven technology, and existing infrastructure. Although not renewable, nuclear energy emits zero carbon and could help meet global emissions targets.”
Uber Alles!
June 28, 2024 at 3:53 pm #162307jb-hbParticipantIt was a mercy to Biden to be debating Trump.
Vivek Ramaswamy would have debated like a 60’s/70’s/80’s/90’s presidential candidate, delivering his knowledge of the various issues in detail and showing how they scaled up to various principles and values.
He would not have eviscerated Biden. It would instead have been like Vivek whipped out a samurai sword and, in a blur of motion, chopped Biden into 1-inch cubes, which then fell behind the lectern in a heap.
I felt like Trump’s performance was visibly degraded compared to previous election cycles. A sharp, competent, energetic, knowledgeable candidate would have absolutely stomped all over Biden like Godzilla on Bambi. The comparison would have left the American public shocked and aghast.
If we transported 1980 Carter to run against Trump instead of Biden, I don’t think Trump would have fared well at all last night.
June 28, 2024 at 4:18 pm #162308my parents said knowParticipantThe meltdown of the CNN panel after the debate was over was a treat to see. I wish I knew how to get it, and post it.
But Biden says he’s in it for the long haul.
Crazy aunts won’t get out of the attic. Grampa won’t budge from the chair.
I agree with jb-hb that Biden was slow to start and seemed to have spurts of energy.
Biden was the first to call “liar”.June 28, 2024 at 4:29 pm #162309my parents said knowParticipantThe miserable SCOTUS decision may have recalled the Smith-Mundt Modernization act, which allowed the US gov to bring propaganda to the states.
“A danger of the act: “Today, the military is more focused on manipulating news and commentary on the Internet, especially social media, by posting material and images without necessarily claiming ownership,” reported the Post.”
This quote is from an old “Foreign Policy” article in July of 2013.June 28, 2024 at 5:40 pm #162310phoenixvoiceParticipantOroboros
Trump can be talked in and out of anything by the people he picks to surround him.*sigh*. Exactly. And a penchant for flourishes when firing does not prevent this problem.
June 28, 2024 at 5:46 pm #162311zerosumParticipantBiden is not quitting. He will do another debate in Sept.
Trump should prepare to send flower to Biden’s nursing home.June 28, 2024 at 5:49 pm #162312D Benton SmithParticipant@jb_hb
I think you may have misjudged the American electorate. Yes, they are cows, a fact for which we should all be grateful. If they were unbroke feral West Texas long horns then things would get pretty spicey. For one thing, only the bravest and most desperate half-crazy cowboys would be able to do ANYTHINBG with them.
What I’m saying is that it doesn’t matter how EXTREME Biden’s incompetence is seen to be by the herd. They don’t care. That’s why they don’t pay it much attention because they have more pressing business to attend to. What matters is that now they have seen it, and now they care, because a truly incompetent President is going to harmfully impact their daily lives. Now they see what the source of the problem is, at least so far as they are concerned. The herd sees that a bunch of incompetent Bozos running the country through a sock-puppet incompetent President. Now the herd will throw the bums out.
That’s not me with a crystal ball and the wisdom of the ages talking. It’s the number-crunching political scientists who are saying it. Biden spooked the herd. The numbers show it. The appropriate response to this situation is panic. Their AI computer algorithms are telling them in no uncertain terms that if the UniParty doesn’t don’t pull a Presidential rabbit out of an empty hat then the current regime is OVER.
Political (and probably some actual) blood will run in the gutters. The Dems have mere weeks to pull of that kind of miracle and for the past few years they haven’t been doing a very effective job at that sort of thing. They keep getting caught and pilloried until now even the HERD sees it! What if the herd stampedes!?
People keep forgetting about that characteristic of the invisible majority of Americans. It’s just like the way they keep forgetting the same thing about the Russians. We’re a lot like Russians in that regard I suppose. We really don’t like to fight and we are really disinterested in Government because it stinks and we have better things to do like live decent ordinary lives That is, until we are forced by circumstances to do so. Like now. The herd has taken notice.
June 28, 2024 at 5:53 pm #162313Just Some RandomerParticipant“Biden is not quitting. He will do another debate in Sept.”
Biden better be careful or he might find himself catching a bad case of death.
June 28, 2024 at 6:05 pm #162314zerosumParticipantHANG ON. IT’S HAPPENING.
WHAT WILL BE, WILL BE
EVERYBODY HAS THEIR MIND MADE UP.June 28, 2024 at 6:11 pm #162315D Benton SmithParticipantI think that it’s not fully EVERYBODY quite yet, so there’s still a little more time left to save a few more. Keep telling the truth and a few more sleepyheads may get the message at the last possible moment. After that, yeah. What will be will be. They will have made up their minds and that will be that.
June 28, 2024 at 6:12 pm #162316D Benton SmithParticipantIt seems self-contradictory to call something a democracy in which 95% of the people don’t participate at all, and of the 5% who do get involved, half of them are career criminals who operate on the basis of might makes right (which doesn’t seem very “democratic”). The surprising thing to me is that such an arrangement doesn’t wind up turning into total Anarchy. Instead, it winds up devolving into something else that doesn’t even have a name (that I’m aware of anyhow).
Then it struck me. ADemocratically Utopian project (such as the United States was/is, for example) eventually develops by stages into a PURE democracy, in which everyone participates just precisely as much as they individually believe that they need to, or want to, or HAVE TO.
That’s the stage we’re in now. Some folks have decided to be selfishly bad and grab the reigns to do whatever they damn well want, and others have decided to be selflessly good and give their lives to stop those guys from killing everybody. The rest of the people (a far too vast majority, in my opinion) have made decisions to just follow orders in exchange for money, which lands them in a stupified state of confusion on one side or the other of a defining tipping point. I speak of the ever present tipping point vacillating at the nexus between what is Good and what is Bad, or what is Right or Wrong, and most importantly of all, what is True and what is a Lie.
No matter whether you examine that phenomenon from 35,000 feet or in fine-grit detail under an electron microscope the forms and functions remain exactly the same. Regardless of scale the essential parts and relationships between parts remain virtually identical. It is very much like a hologrammatic fractal. And the pattern it reveals is the conflict between Right and Wrong, True and False, Good and Bad, God and the Devil.
How peculiar, don’t you think? Could it be that the Catholics and the Hindus are BOTH right? Seems to me that the only ones who get it wrong entirely are the ones who don’t, won’t or can’t see the pattern.
Consider this, since YOU are self-aware and have the faculties (to think, act and know that you are doing so), then wouldn’t it follow logically that any (and every) entity that is genuinely superior to you would ALSO be able to do those same things that you are able to do, only do them all BETTER than you can?
Isn’t it simply logical (patently obvious, actually) that such an entity would also be able to think, plan and communicate, and that it would do so WAY better than you do?
That’s what I think, anyway, and I’ve done quite a bit of lab and field testing to confirm or falsify the theory. My conclusion (which I LITERALLY stake my life on) is that, Yup!, there is God and he is ready willing and able to communicate to you to help you get your sorry ass out of this mess you’ve got yourself into. He can and will dumb the messages down to your level so that you CAN understand what he’s telling you. But even then, you won’t hear if you don’t listen.
Notice that I did NOT say that you won’t get an answer if you don’t ask. That’s because you’re ASKING for stuff all of the time. You want this, you want that, you want some other thing. It’s practically non-stop. BUT YOU FREQUENTLY DON’T LISTEN TO THE ANSWER THAT IS GIVEN!
The answer is to do the RIGHT thing, not the wrong thing. Do the good deed, not the bad. Believe (and TELL!) the truth, not the lie. Don’t trade in lies as though lies were a currency you can exchange for things you want. If you want something good then ask God how to make that thing become real and he will provide you with the truths you need to make that so. When you do it THAT way (and yes it requires work) then you will wind up owning and experiencing the REAL thing, the gratifying thing, and not some disappointingly worthless fake that leaves you feeling as empty as a used beer can.
The test of whether a message is coming from God is whether it is true, good, right, helpful and aimed at genuine betterment. Your awareness and freewill and ability to discern those qualities is your gift from God. It had to have come from him because it couldn’t possibly have come from anywhere else.
You, personally, have absolutely no other possible TRUE explanation for where those inexplicable things could have come from. You sure didn’t make them. You just HAVE them, and if you lost them you have absolutely no idea how to replace them. You don’t know how and you wouldn’t know where to begin to find out. That’s why people who have lost their connection to God are so damn scared of dying! They don’t know how to make themselves exist! And since they have lost their communication with God they are left thinking that their end (body death) will be THE end. Lights out. Curtain down. Empty theater. Fade to black. Terrifying hopelessness. Bummer.
Luckily, that’s not the case. You ARE aware and you have both the free will to choose to do what is in your GENUINE best interests, and the agency to turn that will into actions that have meaning and consequence in Reality.
They are a GIFT. They are a gift from the Creator. Just accept it with some well deserved gratitude and take his good advice moving forward toward what is genuinely in your own best interest. Just ask the following question. “What should I do next that is genuinely in my own most enlightened BEST interest?”
Within a VERY short time you will know the answer of precisely what you should do next, and you will not know how you came to know it. That’s the gift. Both the answer and THE CAPACITY TO KNOW IF IT IS GOOD OR IF IT IS BAD are God’s gifts to you, as is the free will to choose whether to act upon the answer or not.
June 28, 2024 at 6:14 pm #162317NoiretteParticipantOn RT articles (not bad) re. Macron., prev. thread.
There will NOT be civil war in F, though riots and upping the violence on both sides (demos, State via Police) may happen. Common in F, think Gilets Jaunes, or the New Year burning of cars, hundreds of them in ‘sensitive areas’…
Why? Because most ppl will be happy to see Macron ‘defeated’, ‘made powerless’ or ‘pushed to quit.’ A new National Assembly offers some hope of ‘change’ (hmm, ‘hopiness’..) new allegiances, etc.
Note the programs of the Rassemblement National (le Pen), and the New Popular Front, NFP (left-green-coalition) are at heart the same -> populist economic measures (re-lowering retirement age, taxing the rich, knocking TVA off ‘essential goods’ etc. etc.)
The NPF proposal is more elaborate, longer, prudent in content. The RN has already walked back many of their proposals, presented as promises, e.g. concerning the retirement age, leaving the EU electricity market, etc.Both these oppo blocs support UKR to the hilt or ‘as best as we can’ (differences in wording), and are PRO EU.
All pro-Frexit pols have been eliminated.
Re. Israel – Gaza the NFP is split: Mélenchon supports Palestine and X-X-X overtly / covertly support the Zionists.
The outcome of these elections will not lead to fundamental change. France has entered the Age of the Spectacle unequivocally, with enthusiastic applause from the Dominating Class.
The ‘top’ Corps. / Finance / Oligarchs / Big Biz will, in the main, champion (order) a vote for the RN (RN has made promises.) A section of low-class workers will vote for the RN, in the tradition of ‘oppose the mainstream’, ‘oppose immigration’, ‘get rid of Muslims’, ‘champion France’ and so on.
June 28, 2024 at 6:22 pm #162318NoiretteParticipantOn, top post, Macron and Zelensky, super GAY dancing etc.
Who knows what is real?
See here an ex. which is presented as a spoof, an obvious fake, making fun.
It is not supposed to be believed (Macron with huge breasts, NO) but see how his face actually melds well… (besides the size etc.)
@iadrolefr June 28, 2024 at 6:34 pm #162319zerosumParticipantSimple, Election campaign strategy advise/instructions. Practice for 10 days.
” I’m telling the truth, You are the liar,”
(repeat louder and louder until you die or until end of campaigning
It’s not brainwashing, propaganda or senior abuse)June 28, 2024 at 6:42 pm #162320WESParticipantThe Dems need to find Joe’s and Jill’s price to leave!
That is why Joe is staying he won’t leave!
Joe will leave when the price is right! -
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