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    John Day
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    Scott Ritter explains that the Moscow mercenary assassins made the mistake of swearing an oath to Allah with their left (“unclean”) hands, proving that they were bad actors.
    True North. Krasnogorsk Mass Murder.
    The attackers posted a photograph of them reciting the Shahada, or Islamic oath and creed (“I bear witness that there is no deity but God, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of God”) which, if made sincerely, is all that is required to be identified as a Muslim in the eyes of God. While Islamic scholars note that it is only necessary to recite the words, for jihadists reciting Shahada accompanied by a raised right index finger, has become de riguere—Osama Bin Laden delivered it in this fashion, as did Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the founder of the Islamic State.
    Shahada is a ritual, and those who make Shahada must understand its importance for it to have any meaning. As such, if one incorporates the raising of the right index finger as part of the Shahada ritual, it must be done piously. The use of the right hand is critical—in the Muslim faith, the right hand symbolizes all that is good, and the left is reserved for unclean acts: “No one among you should eat with his left hand or drink with it, for the shaytaan (devil) eats with his left hand and drinks with it.”
    The four attackers delivered this oath by raising their left hands.
    They also published this photograph with their faces blurred—they were shielding their identity.
    There can be no subterfuge when reciting Shahada—it is an oath made before God and in the eyes of men.
    Moreover, the blurring of their faces indicated that the attackers intended to survive their mission.

    True North. Krasnogorsk Mass Murder. Scott Ritter

    US, UK and Ukraine could be behind Moscow terror attack – FSB chief , 139 people died and around 200 were injured in last Friday’s Crocus City Hall massacre
    Aleksandr Bortnikov told reporters on Tuesday that the authorities are currently trying to establish the identity of everyone involved in the attack, both inside and outside Russia.
    When asked whether the US, Britain and Ukraine could be behind the terrorist attack, the FSB chief responded: “We think that this is so. In any case, we are now talking about the information that we have. This is general information, but they [investigators] also have concrete results.”
    https://swentr.site/news/594935-us-uk-ukraine-moscow-terrorism/

    Gilbert Doctorow: Yesterday’s remarkable statements to journalists by Alexander Bortnikov, director of Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB)
    The FSB today might be better compared with the FBI in the United States. It deals with domestic criminality of all kinds and with threats to Russian civilians such as terrorism. The agency and its head are rarely in the news…
    ..Bortnikov spent the past 15 years in his FSB offices out of sight. However, the spectacular attack on the Crocus City Hall concert venue has propelled him to center stage and yesterday he met with the Russian state television journalist Pavel Zarubin for an interview and then allowed himself to be questioned further…
    ..What Bortnikov had to say was extraordinary and bears directly on whether you and I should now be looking for bomb shelters…
    ..Bortnikov is by definition a member of Vladimir Putin’s inner circle of advisors. He, Putin and Naryshkin are all roughly the same age…
    ..I was struck in particular by his poise and prudent, carefully weighed choice of words while setting out where the investigation is heading with transparency and a ‘let the chips fall where they may’ unaffected demeanor…
    ..The journalists were all probing the question of who stood behind the terror attack. Bortnikov told them…and us: standing behind the terror act committed by Islamist extremists are the United States, Great Britain and Ukraine.
    Bortnikov said that the preliminary findings indicate that the four perpetrators of the slaughter were headed by car to the border with Ukraine where they were awaited on the other side. He very calmly explained that the involvement of foreign powers is being clarified and that he will say nothing out of pure emotion now but will wait for the facts to be solidly collected before being presented.
    Nonetheless, it was entirely newsworthy that he named the United States, Great Britain and Ukraine as the likely puppet masters of the terror act. Let us remember that following the bombing of the Nord Stream pipelines, the most significant attack on critical civilian infrastructure globally in the last 50 years, Russian officials did not point the finger directly at any country. There was innuendo but no direct accusations…
    A lot of new elements to the terror attack at Crocus City Hall were posted yesterday on the Russian state television news and analysis program Sixty Minutes. In particular, we learned that in the last days of February and first couple of days of March two of the four attackers were in Istanbul. The departure and arrival of one at a Moscow airport was recorded on video. We were told which hotels they stayed in, and the selfies and other photos taken by one in Istanbul were put up on the screen. It is still not clear with whom they met in Turkey. However, the timing itself is very important, because the point was made that they returned to Moscow to carry out a terror attack on 8 March, International Women’s Day, a sacred date on the Russian calendar. Had they done so on that day, the effect would have been catastrophic for the presidential elections in Russia one week later.
    However, per Sixty Minutes, it was determined that Russian state security on 8 March was too tight for the terrorist mission to succeed and the United States decided to pull the plug on that operation. Note that this is approximately the time when Victoria Nuland tendered her resignation at the State Department (5 March). The possible causal link here surely deserves attention by my peers in the U.S. ‘dissident’ community…
    ..The Ukrainians decided to proceed with the terror attack a week after the Russian presidential elections, when it lost most of its rationale. They did so over the objections of Washington…
    ..In general, the mood of panelists and of the host Solovyov himself is now changing in a cardinal manner: Ukraine is seen as an enemy state and the sooner it is finished off the better. There was talk last night on the need for missile strikes to flatten the presidential palace in Kiev along with all military and other decision making government centers in the capital.
    As we have observed repeatedly over the past two years. President Putin has been a voice for moderation and restraint, resisting actions that might precipitate WWIII. That is clearly coming to an end when his own FSB director names the United States and the UK as planners of the biggest terror attack in Russia in 20 years.

    Yesterday’s remarkable statements to journalists by Alexander Bortnikov, director of Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB)

    Gilbert Doctorow explains the above and more in this (13 min) Indian TV interview:
    Moscow Terror Attack | Russian FSB says US, UK and Ukraine behind Moscow attack | What’s the truth?

    John Helmer, THE EVIDENCE ON THE CROCUS GANG ATTACK IN MOSCOW
    In just thirteen minutes, four Kalashnikov rifles, knives, and plastic bottles of gasoline, discharged by four men, were not enough to kill and injure so many people as have been accounted for to date in the Crocus City Hall attack in Moscow.
    More than half those examined so far in post-mortems “died as a result of the fire from exposure to high temperature and combustion products”, according to Alexander Bastrykin, the chief investigator in his public report to President Vladimir Putin on Monday night. Post-mortems have yet to be reported for one-third of the 139 dead counted by Bastrykin; no analysis of the cause of injuries to 182 of the surviving casualties has been reported yet; 93 of them remain in hospital…
    ..Yevgeny Krutikov, a writer with military intelligence sources, reported in Vzglyad: “It can be assumed that the weapons were stored in the terrorists’ cache for a long time and not too carefully – the machine guns sparkled during the shooting. This indicates damage to the barrel or breech (dirt got inside the barrel).”
    Recruitment of the shooters; pre-placement of weapons and ammunition; accommodation and advance payment to the gunmen; purchase of the car they used; communications and coordination; exit undetected in the crowds escaping the building; and the escape route to the Ukraine border through Bryansk region – the evidence of these details prepared over weeks and months indicate a much larger organization than the four shooters formed with seven others already arrested and under interrogation.
    What they know and will tell is likely to reveal a sophisticated command-and-control system which knew how vulnerable the target was, how to maximize the killing in the shortest possible duration, and at the same time allow escape for the attackers – which is almost unprecedented in the recent history of mass terrorist attacks in Russia. .
    That’s to say, the command knew — the shooters and their accomplices didn’t. There was advance reconnoiter of the Crocus City Hall so that the shooters knew the route they followed inside the building and then out under cover of fire and smoke, which erupted faster than they were able to shoot almost half of their ammunition which they left behind.
    Did the command also know that Crocus City Hall and the surrounding mall were operating without adequate fire alarms, smoke and carbon monoxide detectors, sprinklers, and emergency ventilation, none of which has been reported by eyewitnesses? Was the building targeted because the command knew it was constructed without fire-resistant structural supports, allowing ceilings and roof to cave in, choking or crushing those beneath to death?…
    ..For the time being, the only evidence connecting the four shooters to the Ukraine is the direction they were taking when their vehicle was stopped by the security forces. In a shootout the car overturned, and three of the gunmen fled into the forest beside the road, leaving one man injured in the car…
    ..What is evident so far, including from the line of Tajik accomplices now making formal appearances in a Moscow court, is the absence of ideology or religiosity of the radical Islamic type; and ignorance of where their orders and money were coming from, and why. This non-evidence points to the Ukraine as strongly as the road the four shooters were taking when they were caught.
    Their subsequent demeanour in brief videoclips after capture, in hospital, and in court confirms what the military blogger Boris Rozhin calls “dumb hysteria…behaviour [that is] typical in a situation where the actions of terrorists do not have a deep ideological basis. This is the case of the Crocus gunmen, where the sole motivation is only money. Already in the moment of flight, the criminals realized what they had committed and, since the terrorist attack was not supported by ideology, the militants were seized with animal fear for their own lives. Therefore, during the interrogation, they are ready to tell everything, cry and so on, just to stay alive.”
    The Russian intelligence agency investigations now under way, according to Krutikov, are tracing the “Telegram accounts through which the terrorists received instructions, including during their departure from the crime scene. Most likely, it is this branch which directly links the investigation with the Ukrainian direction due to the indication of a specific square at the border crossing.” …
    ..Prosecutor-General Igor Krasnov said to Putin: “These atrocities have a common goal – to intimidate people, to destroy the unity of our people. Their performers, customers and curators will inevitably be punished. That is why the most important task for Russia remains to achieve the goals of a special military operation.” Putin had said the same thing the day before…
    ..Konstantin Malofeev (Malofeyev), owner of the Tsargrad media group in Moscow, has published several policy calls under the slogan, “the internal threat has turned out to be no less serious than the external one”…
    ..For the time being, there has been no impact of the Crocus attack and the Moscow media debate on the operational or strategic plans under way in the Ukraine. The intensification of the General Staff’s offensive along the line of contact in the Donbass; in the electric war against Kharkov and other cities east of the Dnieper River; and in the missile attacks on targets from Kiev to Lvov – reported here — commenced before the Moscow events; they are continuing as planned.
    “Those in political command who have been favouring an outcome to the war that falls short of regime change in Kiev and extension of demilitarization to the Polish border,” observes a Moscow political source, “have lost their voice since Saturday night.”

    THE EVIDENCE ON THE CROCUS GANG ATTACK IN MOSCOW

    #155649
    John Day
    Participant

    ​File under: “He who smelt it dealt it”: Top U.S. Officials Warn of Major Terror Attack on America Following Moscow Massacre

    Top U.S. Officials Warn of Major Terror Attack on America Following Moscow Massacre

    Russia defying UN sanctions on North Korea – FT​ , Moscow has been reportedly exporting oil directly to Pyongyang despite a ban​ (Duh!)
    https://www.rt.com/business/594932-russia-oil-north-korea-sanctions/

    MV Dali Hitting Key Bridge in Baltimore – Track and Video Analysis​ (The container ship had reversed thrust and was barely creeping forward when it hit. Fine analysis.)

    ​Best annotated (53 sec) video: BALTIMORE BRIDGE SHIP SUFFERED POWER LOSS. POSSIBLY STUXNET CYBER ATTACK?

    Cat sent this 51 second video, pointing out flashes on the bridge structure, which could have been something like thermite charges. I’m not sure one way or the other.

    #155650
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ Investigators Probe ‘Dirty Fuel’ In Baltimore Container Ship Disaster Amid Mid-Atlantic Supply Chain Crisis​
    Catastrophic supply chain snarls are materializing in the Mid-Atlantic area after a container ship rammed a 1.6-mile-long bridge at the Port of Baltimore, causing the bridge to collapse and paralyzing terminals along the port.
    ​ Before we shed more color on the worsening supply chain issues, a new Wall Street Journal report cites people familiar with the investigation into the crash as saying contaminated fuel could’ve contributed to the container ship “Dali” losing power.
    ​ According to a Coast Guard briefing report viewed by the WSJ, Dali’s lights began to flicker about an hour after the ship began steaming down the marine channel out of the Baltimore Inner Harbor.
    ​ “The vessel went dead, no steering power and no electronics,” said an officer aboard the ship.
    “One of the engines coughed and then stopped. The smell of burned fuel was everywhere in the engine room, and it was pitch black,” the officer said, adding that the vessel didn’t have time to drop anchors before hitting the bridge. Minutes before the crash, officers on the ship issued a mayday call to the Coast Guard.
    ​ Fotis Pagoulatos, a naval architect in Athens, said contaminated fuel could seize up the ship’s main power generators and result in a complete blackout and loss of propulsion.
    ​ During a press conference, Jennifer Homendy, chair of the National Transportation Safety Board, said an investigation is underway to review the vessel’s operations and safety logs and black box recorders to determine what happened in the moments leading up to Baltimore’s biggest industrial disaster in several generations.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/baltimore-container-ship-crisis

    What to know about the ripple effects of the Baltimore bridge collapse
    https://www.axios.com/2024/03/26/baltimore-bridge-collapse-port-close-ripple-effects

    ​ Police Scotland to Stop Investigating Crimes While Enforcing New Anti-Free Speech Law
    ​ As it prepares to investigate every report it receives under the new Hate Crime Act, Police Scotland admits that a separate plan to stop investigating crimes like theft and criminal damage will help criminals.
    ​ A Police Scotland pilot in Aberdeen which was deemed a “success” means “more than 24,000 offences a year will no longer be allocated to a front-line officer.”
    ​ The body refused to tell the Telegraph which offences would not be investigated, asserting that it would provide criminals with a “tactical advantage”.
    https://modernity.news/2024/03/26/police-scotland-to-stop-investigating-crimes-while-enforcing-new-anti-free-speech-law/

    ​Maybe before all of us who clearly remember that day finally die? CIA Secrecy on JFK Points to Criminal Culpability , Jacob G. Hornberger

    CIA Secrecy on JFK Points to Criminal Culpability

    #155651
    John Day
    Participant

    Meryl Nass MD, Louisiana’s Senate just *UNANIMOUSLY* passed a bill that denies that any communication from the WHO, UN AND WEF may be used as a basis for action within the state!!! Actually very similar to my model state resolution. WHAT a message this sends!
    https://merylnass.substack.com/p/louisianas-senate-just-unanimously

    ​ The Sovereignty Coalition/ Door to Freedom backgrounder for lawmakers on the proposed transformation of the WHO
    Please read and share this brief but comprehensive summary of what is afoot widely
    https://merylnass.substack.com/p/the-sovereignty-coalition-door-to

    ​ (Worse than Pfizer) People who receive Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine have a greater risk of developing chronic hives, according to researchers in Denmark.
    The Danish Medicines Agency review of data from Denmark and the European Union validated a safety signal that arose for chronic hives, or chronic urticaria, and Moderna’s shot, the agency said on March 20.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/moderna-vaccine-recipients-have-greater-risk-developing-chronic-condition-study

    ​ Article: Are water cycles the missing piece of the climate crisis puzzle?
    The most prestigious sources of climate “news” and “information” miss the biggest part of the puzzle. They are not even talking about the role of water cycles and ecosystems. Here’s why.
    https://harthagan.substack.com/p/article-are-water-cycles-the-missing

    ​ Putting the “Biotic Pump” mechanism back to work: Thanks Rob de Laet.
    Restoring the earth’s damaged temperature regulation is the fastest way out of the climate crisis. Cooling the planet with plants
    https://medcraveonline.com/IJBSBE/IJBSBE-09-00237.pdf

    #155652
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Clearly, CO2 is the most important issue to you.

    Communism is the greatest emitter of CO2

    Yet Communism has had a cloak of invisibility for years now. You can’t see it.

    Surging atmospheric CO2 will render the Earth largely or completely uninhabitable for most extant species. So yes, it is among the biggest of issues, along with Fractional Reserve Banking and creation of money out of thin air by central banks and phony GDP numbers.

    It’s easy to blame communism but those who do so do not look at the big picture. One reason China has enormous CO2 emissions is that it manufactures a huge quantity of finished goods and semi-processed materials for the rest of the world.

    It will be very ‘interesting’ if the US proceeds with its plan to commence open hostility over the matter of Taiwan.

    #155653
    jb-hb
    Participant

    It’s easy to blame communism

    …because it makes the most CO2. Duh.

    One reason China has enormous CO2 emissions is that it manufactures a huge quantity of finished goods and semi-processed materials for the rest of the world.

    AFKTT – CO2 producing activity is bad, BAD!!!!

    Communism produces the most CO2 by multiples of the US

    AFKTT – Don’t worry, that’s just Communism engaging in CO2 producing activity. That’s why it’s easy to blame them.

    But why does it sound like you are minimizing the maximal source of CO2 when you talk about China …as if there’s something more important to you than CO2?

    Is it because Critical Race “Theorists” care more about Marxism than black people, Critical Gender “Theorists” care more about Marxism than trans folks, Critical Feminist “Theorists” care more about Marxism than women, and Critical Climate Change “theorists” care more about Marxism than CO2?

    …considering your entire doctrine comes FROM a self-avowed Marxist Climate Change Pro-Democide Ecoterrorist whose favorite saying is “we need to tear it all down”?

    You had a softball thrown to you to say something, anything negative about Communist China, and you instead showed yourself spinning as best you could FOR Communist China. Weird, huh?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6nUCpHXIAAWOhX?format=jpg&name=small

    #155654
    aspnaz
    Participant

    DBS said

    Hey, I’ve got a bright idea for some or several patriotic geeks out there in the ether. How about an open source collaboration to create an ideal National Constitution?

    Such a document would have no binding legal force behind it, of course, other than what free and capable individuals choose for themselves.

    But it sure would be interesting to see what the combined peoples of Earth come up with.

    You want the peoples of Earth to write your national constitution? Or are you equating the people of the USA with the people of the earth? Whatever, it doesn’t make sense.

    #155655
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    How many folk here ever “drove”, as in conned, a several hundred foot ship?”

    Yeah, me, although my part of the job was simply to watch the compass, turn the wheel, and follow orders. We were a 450 ft flat bottomed freighter, the USS AE 17 Great Sitkin, which was an Ammunition carrier (including nukes). I LOVED standing Helm Watch. I could feel the feedback of all of the forces at play in steering a course, and it was absolutely thrilling.

    Back in that day it took 8 people on the bridge, plus two lookouts just outside on the “wings”, and that’s not including the radar men, navigator and all those snipes down in the Engineering spaces to keep it all working and actually moving through the water. Complicated. Not as simple as it looks to an observer from the outside.

    All of those memories are WAY back in time for me (like 50 some years ago) but some of it is so tattooed on my brain that I can reexperience them anytime by just closing my eyes). One of those things is that big ships take a lot of time and transfer of forces to turn at all. I could literally count the seconds between turning the wheel and the bow coming around at all. Another thing about it is that EVERY turn had to be stopped by a counter turn in the other direction. Going in an absolutely straight line was absolutely impossible by the very nature of the masses and forces involved.

    Based on my personal experience my opinion is that the Dali’s onboard computer guidance system was hacked and that the ship was guided directly into the bridge’s pylon. No human being could have guided that ship so precisely into a collision course and maintained that guidance so minutely and accurately for that long of a time. I’ve watched the videos from multiple angles , many times over and at various playback rates, and I think that the Dali’s movements could only have been a precision guided deliberate collision, well beyond human capability and therefor certainly accomplished with expertly programmed computerized control.

    #155656
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The Baltimore Bridge Clusterfuck is simply another Ritual Humiliation for Duh’merica to swallow, hook, line and sinker.

    It’s Duh’merica’s very own Nordstream Pipeline “mystery” to solve

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

    What a bunch a Maroons!

    That and addition 10% inflation on all goods and services for the entire East Coast.

    Wipes out that 4% pay raise you just got!

    Just an accident, the Sheeple will lap it up with a plastic spoon!

    .

    #155657
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @aspnaz wrote, “Whatever, it doesn’t make sense.”

    I wouldn’t expect any sensible thing to make much sense to you, Aspie old boy. You’re too busy being angry at things.

    Since you obviously could not read and understand what I originally wrote it looks like I have to quote myself and give you another chance. I understand that English is not your first language, but if you take it slowly you should be able to get it. Try not to move your lips. I wrote, “How about an open source collaboration to create an ideal National Constitution?”

    Notice that there is no mention of the United States. Also notice that it says, “National Constitution”, which might be applicable to those nations who have constitutions, unlike your nation, which only as a big ass committee of thugs who just make shit up as they go along. That’s fine. People get the nation they earn.

    #155658
    Oroboros
    Participant

    I can’t wait for the Satanic Overlords of Duh’merica to slowly knock down one major infrastructure after another and have the News Whores “explain it” to the Sheeple as yet another ‘accident’.

    Manna from Heaven if you are engaged in the controlled demolition of and entire country and culture.

    The Kulture Vultures will feast like a beast.

    Got a new slogan for the national anthem via Bob Ross:

    .

    #155659
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ AFKTT

    Consider this

    Destructive “Chemtrails” Finally Coming to Light – Dane Wigington

    Destructive “Chemtrails” Finally Coming to Light – Dane Wigington

    #155660
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    It will take another 2 months for the trajectory of atmospheric CO2 to peak in the current photosynthesis season (generation of CO2 exceeding photosynthetic and absorption by oceans removal processes).

    In the meantime, while we wait for the end of May data, ‘interesting times’ get ever more ‘interesting’ (deadly).

    #155661
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Michael Reid.

    I have been well aware for many years that high-flying aircraft discharge damaging chemicals into the atmosphere. Vapour trails consist of ice particles and the products of combustion of jet fuel, and are discharged when they can do the most damage.

    There are undoubtedly experiments being conducted to examine the effect of seeding the atmosphere in order to form rain clouds or to mask the incoming radiation from the Sun.

    The chief source of problems is ‘solutions’, and we are now living in The Age of Consequences, whereby solutions to past problems are manifesting in many nasty ways. And it is going to get nastier and nastier, the more humans disrupt natural processes via technology.

    #155662
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Then you know you didn’t have the conn.
    You took orders from a commissioned officer, the conning officer, as in no one ever passed you the conn.

    #155663
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @DrDRich

    That is correct. I was just the lowly helmsman, and sure that it never crossed anyone’s mind to say “Hey guys, Smitty over there at the wheel is a good sailor. Let’s let him take control of this very large ship full of high explosive ordinance and a few nukes, while passing through the extremely crowded Strait of Gibraltar, and see how he does. What could go wrong?”

    I also remember this about my hours on the bridge. It was dead serious and by the book at all times and under all conditions. There was never so much as one atom of tom-foolery, joking, or departure from strictly standard procedures. I say this because (as Dr Rich implies) taking the conn of a big ship is serious business. Hell, man, forget about human lives, we’re talking about CAREERS being at stake!

    #155664
    toolate
    Participant

    And there you would be doubly wrong.He visited Samoa Twice and yes indeed some Samoan women DO look like that. I have known many to

    #155665
    WES
    Participant

    I read quite a few of the ZH comments on the Dali ship hitting the bridge.

    There sure were a lot of comments poo-pawing the dirty fuel narrative put out by the government as not believable.
    Then the narrative of ship’s electrical problems dockside. Maybe.

    One commenter said the current/outgoing tide/wind required a speed of about 8 knots just to have any control of the ship.
    A slower speed would have meant total loss of control.

    This ship likely only had one main engine/screw, not 2. It would have had 2 motor/generator units to supply power to the ship’s control systems.
    Typically both would be running when leaving port, so there would be a back up in case one failed.

    However, we know the ship lost total electrical power twice.
    One commenter said this might mean the main power breaker tripped.
    If both power generators were running and one failed, the main power breaker should not have tripped if the back up was running.
    Another commenter said grounding issues on ship’s can be a real problem hiding large power leakages to ground.
    Supposedly fuel to 2 electrical power units is different from that of the main ship engine so it is hard to believe both electrical power units went down at the same time, unless only 1 of the 2 units was working when they left the dock.

    The hacking issue was raised over and over again with the name of the ship’s navigation system being mentioned and then how to do it!
    Everybody agreed the government will never tell us the truth!

    #155666
    WES
    Participant

    Another loose end noted by ZH commentors was how quickly Joe said the federal government would pay for a new bridge which would then stop an investigation of what happened to determine insurance company payouts.
    Many thought this was rather suspicious as most maritime disasters are usually long and nasty legal affairs.

    #155667
    WES
    Participant

    From recent events, I believe the so called gentlemen’s agreement negotiated between the CIA’s Bill Burns and the FSB head is now history, since the US has clearly been caught violating the agreed boundaries established.

    One Polish general has already paid the price.
    Some Ukrainian SBU handlers are likely no more too.
    Hopefully Nuland is at the top of the hit list.

    #155701
    zerosum
    Participant

    ” Joe said the federal government would pay for a new bridge “

    Bull shit story. $ is spent according to rules and regulations.

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