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    Ben Shahn Quick lunch stand in Plain City, Ohio 1938   • Italy Has Exported Cases Of Coronavirus To 24 Countries – WHO (TMZNaija) • China Manufac
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle March 3 2020]

    #54725
    V. Arnold
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    Ben Shahn Quick lunch stand in Plain City, Ohio 1938

    A nickle, for anything…
    …and people made a living; think about it…
    …when’s the last time you (singular) made a living; for your wife and child/ren???

    #54726
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Assange is just being tortured. It is cruel and these people are able to just go about their business doing this harm and get paid for it by taxpayers. The Judge is just a straight up piece of shit. It is a crazy world full of crazy people. We need more love man. We really do.
    Nice pick of Dr John there too.

    #54727
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “As of 2016, there were 3,007 counties, 64 parishes, 19 organized boroughs, 10 census areas, 41 independent cities, and the District of Columbia for a total of 3,142 counties and county-equivalents in the 50 states.”

    That’s one Corovirus death per U.S. COUNTY. The U.S. has 1/3 as many people as China, so the equivalent is 3x less, to say nothing of all counties planetwide. How much closer to statistical zero do you want?

    Let’s play let’s pretend:
    Let’s suppose – purely fiction – that Wuhan DID release a bioweapon from their lab — nevermind how or why right now — and it DID kill 100,000 – 300,000 people. This would fit their stunning reaction, especially if they soon realized their patient zero was from their own lab, with their own responsibility, >14 days in quarantine, with +9 days on surfaces. Whole cities are shut down. Areas are blocked off that have patients. They are willing to stop their own economic production voluntarily, because otherwise it will stop anyway, and not only will the government fall, but – what really matters to these people — they’ll never live it down and China will be discredited, pariah, for 1,000 years.

    Okay, fine. So…what do we do? Let’s pretend that the bioweapon was our, from Harvard via Canada, as all those people are now arrested. Sure China loses face, but are we to admit we have such poor control of our weapons and secrecy, and so many communist sympathizers at Harvard and the Intel services (but I repeat myself) that they would get everyone on the planet killed by selling out to China for the price of a used Mercedes? That’s not good for the U.S. either, although how everyone doesn’t already know this is a living mystery to me. So what to do?

    Let’s pretend that – since it’s ours, we know all about it. And since we know it has 5 (7?) major elements of bioweapon pandemic, aerosol, persistence, +30 day quarantine, no symptomology, etc. it literally can’t be stopped. That’s why it was made: to be used. To succeed in mass death. (The dummies. Gawd nerdy schmarty-shmartz are the worst, dumbest ever) But knowing the whole genome, the whole life cycle of this bioweapon, they have scenarioed what to do if the OTHER guy uses it, little realizing that OF COURSE someone would use it, something would go wrong, it would turn on them, every day since Mary Shelly in 1815. So they take the Wuhan we have, with three genetic faces to fool the immune system, that is un-vaccinatible, that as a virus is un-curable (that’s why it was made), and do something interesting:

    You take the Wuhan and either damage its expression, or if it’s built that way, remove the payload. THEN YOU RELEASE IT WORLDWIDE. Without testing. That day. Why do you do that? Like a forest fire, the only possible cure to it is to make a firebreak and make sure most people have antibodies to Wuhan 2.0 before they meet the Wuhan 1.0 bioweapon. However, releasing a pretty stiff flu is sure to kill a lotta lotta people, and/or turn into more mischief you can’t even predict, and you’ll be sued up the wazoo by every 80 year old person in every nursing home on planet earth that dies of it. Worse, — and this is what they really care about — the people will come up there with pitchforks and take away your toys, erase your budget and keep an eye on your little monsters, keeping you from mass killing people for sport for a generation. And who wants that?

    So you can’t admit it.

    So on the ground you have two things: Wuhan 1.0, not admitted, killing 100,000 – 300,000 in China, possibly a racial virus as described, but still very dangerous. Anyone flying worldwide – you know like all the 0.1%, Tom Cruise, the Iranian council, John Kerry, the Pope – may have the real one because they’re all best buds. At the same time, the U.S. has spread the degraded, barely dangerous Wuhan 2.0 — which is going to kill a lot of people, but 100x less, only as much as the ’67 Hong Kong flu – in a desperate bid to stop Wuhan 1.0, with you, us, as the guinea pigs. The two cannot be distinguished, and the tests don’t work, so we don’t know when there’s an outbreak in Italy or Washington, which it is for a dangerous window. AND we need to get Wuhan 2.0 “cure” throughout the country, the world – which will kill a few hundred/thousand weakened people – BEFORE the testing comes up to speed and kills everyone with the THIRD problem: panic and the supply chain.

    Paging Dr. Rorschach, what say you? Does this fit the facts? Because one thing I DO know is that their story is fake garbage. Either people died or they didn’t: either we have a pandemic or we don’t. You can’t say 3,000 people died in 3 months, but it’s a big deal. There are 3,287 traffic deaths a DAY. x ~95 days. So driving to work is officially 312,265x more dangerous than Wuhan, if you believe a word they say. Panic!!

    So if you were in their shoes, what would YOU do?

    #54728
    kimyo99
    Participant

    That’s not good for the U.S. either,
    That’s why it was made: to be used. To succeed in mass death

    i think brandon smith’s theory (controlled demolition of the u.s. economy in order to usher in a new global digital currency) is a better fit.

    these people aren’t concerned about what’s ‘good for the u.s.’, they’ve been looting the place for years. it’s already a wreck hurtling towards the cliff.

    instead of ‘mass death’, what serves their purposes best is an extremely contagious virus which is NOT particularly deadly. if indeed there is a wuhan1 and a wuhan2, they’d be the opposite of what you describe. judicious application of the latter (much more deadly / much less contagious) strain will serve nicely to manipulate the fright factor. ‘it must have mutated’….

    instead of blaming the true culprits (central banks/globalists) for the epic global financial collapse, we are meant to blame the chinese. the tylers don’t often speak in unison, but on covid the messaging is totally clear: the chinese biosafety lab is the source. that thread gets worked into almost every article at zh.

    #54729
    zerosum
    Participant

    A nickle, for anything…1938
    before my time.
    I remember a nickle for a coke.
    ——
    Fed make emergency 50 point cut

    A Modern Jubilee is here
    Unfortunately, the debt forgiveness is not going to you.
    I have already noted,yesterday, that lowering interest only helps the rich and well connected.

    https://www.patreon.com/posts/modern-jubilee-34537282

    Mar 2 at 7:08pm
    A Modern Jubilee as a cure to the financial ills of the Coronavirus

    ——
    I’ll fix the headline right now, (before Hilary does it)
    No wrongdoing
    Ukraine Putin interfering again
    • Ukraine Court Throws Wrench Into Joe Biden’s 2020 Election Plans (Solomon)
    • Hillary Clinton Ordered To Give Sworn Deposition On Email Server, Benghazi (ZH)
    ——
    So if you were in their shoes, what would YOU do?

    Make the real target – Iran

    Its a story that would sell.
    —–
    Today’s new story has just been changed by the fed
    The talking experts are all needing their blood pressure meds and fibrillator

    #54730
    zerosum
    Participant

    Here is what I saw yesterday. What do you see today.
    Corporate socialism

    Printing makes everywhere a Lalaland
    No country wants to be left out.
    Even Canada is talking about joining a tele-conference for tomorrow to lower interest.
    Lowering interest only helps
    1. those who have loans with interest that they got trouble paying by re-financing their loans
    2. carpetbaggers who use cheap money to buy out those who cannot get cheap money
    3. those owners who will keep getting a paycheck while setting up for a bankruptcy.
    4. the bankers
    5. the accountants
    6. the lawyers
    7. the government

    I guess that is a good reason for the markets to be flying high.
    Even the stocks of the drug companies that had a meeting with Trump are flying high.
    (The promise of getting some of that $8 Billion)
    ——
    I’m spitting distance from the disclose virus outbreak.
    I went to the food court to eat oriental.
    I’m in contact with grade 1 and grade 3 kids
    I hug a person with a virus.

    https://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/allthatjazz/byebyelife.htm

    Bye bye life
    Bye bye happiness
    Hello loneliness
    I think I’m gonna die

    #54731
    neoh
    Participant

    The WMD trick doesn’t work anymore. Tried it in Syria but no go. The world is not ready to spend trillions like they have in Iraq. Can’t pull off a Y2K scare. That only works once. A bio-hazard scare is good for a quick rate cut and dumping billions and billions into big pharma. Prepper supply companies get the trickle down.
    Never let a catastrophe go to waste….even if it’s not a catastrophe. Sheeple scare easily.

    #54732
    lasttwo
    Participant

    watched Tulsi’s town hall . She made some good points especially antiwar message. Best Candidate IMHO but the media is so against her she does not have much of a chance, Today on NBC morning news. showed her picture did an update on all the other candidates but her. I guess if there was no war the richest would be a little less rich and that would be unacceptable. Maybe Americans just love war. I cannot figure it.

    #54733
    Tree Frog
    Participant

    Fed buys stocks? Keen. What are you thinking?

    Oddly, Keen’s proposals are elitist. I’m kind-of shocked by that.

    #54734
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    Here’s a link to a corona-virus specific herbal remedy that can be purchased. Link was provided by another TAE reader.

    About the Protocol

    #54735
    Dr. D
    Participant

    25,500, just 6,000 points to go and the shorts are all-in. Takes time as well, though. 6,000 points and 30 days.

    Shorts are invariably big insiders, so they are making more trillions today, reloading the mechanism. Sounds tough taking money from 401ks. That’s why we pay them the big money, and if they fail, bail them out to make bonus. Mo’ money, mo’ money.

    #54736
    WES
    Participant

    Dr.D.:. Central bankers only know how to do one thing. Print money!

    Governments only know how to do one thing. Lie!

    #54737
    WES
    Participant

    Still no coronavirus test kits! This week or next week!

    CDC now hoping some private company will provide test kits!

    No private companies were prepared to provide test kits because CDC had monopoly on test kits!

    Given enough time, private companies will rescue the CDC from its own ineptitude!

    #54738
    WES
    Participant

    So far Bernie still isn’t complaining!

    Stupid Tuesday is just another theatre scene!

    The lead actor can’t remember his lines!

    DNC’s theatre director, Hillary is one day closer to revealing who the real candidate is!

    #54739
    zerosum
    Participant

    Trump said a lie:
    Trump on people w/o health insurance w/ coronavirus:
    “They have a big problem & we’re going to look at the uninsured people that, you know, this came out as a surprise to all of us. It just happened. It shows what can happen in life … [we’re gonna] see if we can help them out”
    Reworded:
    corporate bailout/welfare
    Gov. will pay the invoices from the Med industries with some of that $8 billion.

    #54740
    zerosum
    Participant

    AND …. here comes the coordinated bailout for the rich, powerful, elites
    (pretending to help the poor, unfortunate, dirty, victims)
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/world-bank-pledges-12-billion-combat-virus-outbreak

    The World Bank announced Tuesday afternoon that it would fund an initial $12 billion in financing to combat the Covid-19 outbreak that is threatening to plunge the global economy into recession.

    #54741
    WES
    Participant

    I see Julian’s chief accuser, Hillary is still above the law. Obviously Julian is below the law.

    Imagine being Julian, sitting in a glass jail, knowing you are only there, to provide legitimaticy to a corrupt kangaroo court.

    You know they are talking about you, but you can hear and do nothing.

    This is the all powerful deep state in action. You know you will never be allowed to talk.

    Mean while Hillary, your accuser, a war criminal and mass murderer, walks free.

    #54742
    WES
    Participant

    Zerosum:. I see that they passed over giving you any of the $12 billion.

    They are very afraid you might actually spend the money in the real economy!

    #54743
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ WES

    Hehehehe

    I put my hand out but it would stick.
    I must have the wrong kind of grease.
    Maybe some of that money will go to refugees that the elites created.

    #54744
    zerosum
    Participant

    The financial crisis, (bailouts of the elites) is being enacted under the cover of the Con, con ,con, conv-19.

    #54745
    zerosum
    Participant

    Help is coming
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/market-mayhem-exposes-fears-about-oil-companies/ar-BB10GC0a?ocid=spartandhp

    By Matt Egan, CNN Business 2 hrs ago

    The coronavirus crisis is casting an even darker shadow over the reeling oil industry.

    Some debt-riddled oil companies won’t survive at all.
    “You could see a wave of bankruptcies,” said Cutter, the Bloomberg Intelligence analyst.
    The bill is coming due on a mountain of debt in the coming years. North American exploration and production companies have roughly $86 billion of debt maturing by 2024, according Moody’s Investors Services. More than half of those maturities, 62%, are in junk bonds. And Moody’s points out that even investment-grade debt maturities are “highly concentrated” in the lowest possible rating level before junk.
    First, the Federal Reserve announced Tuesday its first emergency rate cut since 2008. The move to slash rates by a half percentage point could ease stress in financial markets, boosting demand for junk bonds and risky oil stocks. US oil prices climbed 2% Tuesday, building on a 4.5% gain the day before.

    OPEC is working on a rescue of its own. The oil cartel is scheduled to meet in Vienna this week and strongly consider slashing production in a bid to put a floor beneath prices.

    #54747
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Some information that could be vital, especially if self-quarantine (and self care) is expected.

    Multiple Infections and Lung Damage Models Imply Strategies for Containing The COVID-19 Pandemic
    Jianqing Wu, Ping Zha

    Last revised: 3 Mar 2020

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3544428

    B. Strategies for Mitigating Infection and Lung Damages

    …we found many intervening points for altering disease outcomes…

    1. …exposure to the virus is just a start point, but not a gameover point. Many potential methods could be used to reduce the number of viral entries. Even through the whole lungs are expected to be infected by the virus,intervening measures can delay viral entries and reproduction and thus reduce damages to the lungs…

    2. Post exposure remedial measures include simple things like cleaning nose and irrigating the mouth and nose to remove as many trapped viral particles as possible to reduce further viral entries.

    3. Effort should be made to stop sequential exposure to external viruses. Before any virus is released to the bloodstream, the body is still vulnerable to continuous infections in the lungs. This measure is much powerful than using antiviral and antibiotic to control independent and cross-infections.

    4. Adjust body conditions in the latent periods… The following should be considered:

    (1) Temperature is the most important factor. It is absolutely the first priority to avoid exposure to low temperature. It affects blood vessel stricture, blood viscosity, blood vessel pore size, etc. Keeping warm is the most important measure in the fight against cold, influenza and any lung infections and is important before exposure to the virus, in the latent time, during treatment, and during recovery.

    (2) Low humidity facilitates removal of water layer on the alveolar walls and promotes oxygen and carbon dioxide exchange and thus improve the lungs’ function to maintain waste removal balance and mitigate the congestion of white blood cells in lung tissues.

    (3) Increase water intake to reduce blood viscosity. A large number of other factors can be used to reduce blood viscosity. Certain foods such as garlic and a large number of herbs can be used to reduce platelet aggregation or improve blood circulation. Right level of salts can reduce blood viscosity by influencing ironic strength. Intake of more water with moderate salts can increase the ability to disperse viral-generated wastes, cell debris and metabolic by-products into the circulating blood.

    (4) Increase mechanical vibrations of the lungs. Sound-uttering, an ancient healing art, can help lungs relax, thus facilitating the passing of white blood cells through the capillaries network. It is best used in early phrase, after the reinfection phase, and during the recovery phase. However, sound uttering in the reinfection time windows may facilitate viral spreading. One best bet is avoiding uttering violent and explosive sounds in the reinfection time window. We have shown that deep breathing exercises is the most powerful method for fight against lung infection. It has been used in China, India, Japan, Korean, etc. as the primary healing art for thousands of years. This exercise can be used in a bulk of times to counter the virus-caused white blood cell retention.

    (5). Use right dietary, environmental, and lifestyle factors to mitigate infection severity and lung damages. Vitamins A, C, E, antioxidants, selenium, etc. protect lung cells from the injuries of free radicals [64-74]. Lifestyle and body condition also affects human vulnerability to viral infection [75-85]. Chronic stress affects immune responses [86, 87]. A large number of factors can be used correctly to alter disease outcomes if they are combined.

    C. Strategies For Reducing Lung Damages and Risk of Death

    The infection modes and damage models imply two different strategies in different stage of disease. In the early phase or before the virus has spread to the whole lungs and the patient’s vital organs have ample redundant functional capacities, the measure is inhibiting, slowing down viral reproduction, viral spread and viral reinfections. This should be done as soon as possible. After the
    whole lungs have been infected, anti-viral drugs in late stages should be avoided after the vital organ capacities have declined to disability levels. Instead, a sound strategy is taking measures to reduce tissue inflammation, reduce flow resistance, keep waste removal balance and strengthen vital organs in the entire treatment period.

    1. Use all safe and non-conflicting factors in favor of inhibiting viral reproduction, promoting innate immunity, boosting immune response, and improving the lung blood circulation as discussed in Sections A and B above.

    2. Mitigate or slow down re-infections by patient-self-originated viruses. What is critically important is slowing down viruses spread to the whole lungs. Good emotion, good air ventilation, warn body temperature, low air humidity, and good life manners can slow down the reinfection process. Slower reinfection speeds have an effect of extending the total time for the viruses to spread to the whole lungs. Sequentially sporadic reinfections have less burden on the whole lungs than synchronized large-scale infections. Longer delays in successive infection timings result in reduced viral burden and reduced level of inflammation, thus reducing lung damages and risk of death. If the reinfection time is extended from several hours to a few days, it could make a difference to final outcome.

    3. After at least some infected cells have discharged cell contents, couching and sneezing generate high-concentration viral sources for selfreinfection. In the early phrase or small time window, patients should avoid coughing, sneezing, and violent throat clearing activities as much as possible or taking any valid measures to inactivate viruses that are inhaled back. Such attempts can slow down viral spread speed. After the whole lungs have been infected, coughing can generate force to improve micro-circulation to facilitate white blood cells to pass through.

    8. Drugs may help slow down viral reproduction, maintain blood circulation, strength heart functions, etc. Patients should be advised that drug side effects can temporarily diminish the usable organ capacities of lungs, heart, liver and kidneys. When the lungs are under severe distress, even a moderate thrust by drug side effects can instantly cause death. Patients should appraise
    drug side effects wisely and should consider using factors with little risks.

    9. Some medical treatments developed by population medicine should be reexamined in the context of those models.

    (1) Antiviral drugs are effective only in the early stage when the functions of major organs are strong. When treatment is started within two days of becoming sick with flu symptoms, antiviral drugs can lessen fever and flu symptoms, and shorten the time of being sick by about one day. After the viruses have spread to the whole lungs, virus reproduction is limited by biological
    resources and immune responses. When patient’s lung functions has approached disability level, such a drug may only burden the lungs by its side effects…

    (2) We also question the measure of using drugs to lower body temperature… Thus, raising set-point of temperature has an expected benefits of improving blood micro-circulation and facilitates immune cells transport balance. Lowering the body temperature may be justified only in situations that excessive high temperature could damage the brain. However, a better strategy is maintaining the lungs at a higher temperature but lowering the head’s temperature by using a cooling bath.

    (3) Using oxygen intake must be reasonable. While supply oxygen can improve lung function, it can cause widespread damages to lung cells and make inflammation even severe. The strategy is avoiding getting to that point and then using oxygen to cause widespread damages to lung cells.

    (4) Medicine should explore drugs that can dilate blood vessels starting as soon as possible. However, side effects are always concern. If the blood circulation can be maintained, use of steroids should be avoided because steroids have caused severe damages to bones.

    10. To maintain vital organ functions, herbs may be formulated to improve holistic health. Herbal formulations may include herbs that fight against the virus and inflammation, promote waste removal, and strengthen all major vital organs. The focus is improving blood micro-circulation in lungs. Synthetic drugs may be used to dilate blood vessels, but this should be used in the early stage. When the whole lungs have been consolidated, there is no room for the blood vessels to expand.

    #54748
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “I see Julian’s chief accuser, Hillary is still above the law. Obviously Julian is below the law.”

    Poor Julian.

    As for Hillary, I suspect that she has to take a lot of narcotics just to smile these days.

    As for Tulsi, while I have no hope in general, I note that the unique circumstances developing might do unexp[ected things to her candidacy. Some wild tail winds are forming offstage.

    #54749
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “So if you were in their shoes, what would YOU do?”

    About what we see. Too little too late, too much too soon, none of it effective.

    I doubt that there is much direct intentionality behind any of this. I think that amoral arrogant stupidity best fits the scenario we see. If you’re dumb enough to manufacture bioweapons, you’re dumb enough to be hoist by your own petard.

    it’s a mess. Like kids left alone at home qwhile Mom makes a quick trip to the grocery for last-minute essentials.

    Returned home to crayons and lipstick and glue all over everything, the parent knows better than to ask, “Who’s responsible?”

    None of them are. They’re children. You can’t trust them to be responsible.

    But we have trusted them to be responsible. Quite irresponsible of us.

    #54750
    WES
    Participant

    Zerosum:.& Bosco: I see you both are cynical! Good!

    It seems like you both have two legged monkeys pretty much figured out!

    Wisdom probably painfully gained through a life time enrolled in the school of hard knocks!

    Did you know real monkeys eat bananas by holding the stem and peeling from the end?

    Another benefit of peeling the banana skin from the end, is you avoid having those pesky banana strings still stuck on your banana!

    I love bananas, but unfortunately they don’t love me! Another food allergy!

    Same for tomatoes and ketchup!

    Sadly I am also allergic to nuts!

    I usually joke that means all kinds of nuts!

    #54751
    zerosum
    Participant

    AGAIN Help is coming for the elites
    Not for the poor blue collar workers
    Hurry up USA if you don’t want to be third
    https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20200303009951315

    SEOUL, March 3 (Yonhap) — South Korea is preparing an extra budget bill worth more than 10 trillion won (US$8.37 billion) to help fight against the new coronavirus, the finance minister told a parliamentary session Tuesday.

    #54752
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    The varying impact of the coronavirus charts are interesting. Early indications are the Wuhan coronavirus does not mutate rapidly like the flu. The differences are due the response of the various nations to the outbreaks in their countries and their reporting.

    South Korea is the gold standard; 0.6% mortality rate but only 0.7% recovered. The green recoveries vary hugely. Likely this is due to different standards of healthcare, coverage and fudging the numbers to avoid panic in the population.

    Iran is a theocracy that is under sanctions and is still a developing country. The 5.5% fatality rate is near the highest range for the Spanish flu that killed up to 50 million when the world’s population was 1.9 billion. Today there 4.4 billion people living in the developing nations. Around a 100 million will die from the pandemic in lesser developed countries due to lack of medical care, malnutrition and bad government.

    Projecting the future of the outbreaks in the USA, I expect that epidemic will be similar to Italy and Japan. A 2% mortality rate will kill millions in the USA. Public Health Departments are run by 50 states and funded by state budgets. Care will vary wildly. The Federal government has proven itself to be completely incompetent. In poor areas of America the mortality rate will reach Iran’s levels and will overwhelm the healthcare system. The spread of the pandemic across the USA is guaranteed due to the lack of effective quarantines and infection tracking, plus the uninsured and under-insured will avoid medical care and tests because they can’t afford it until it is too late.

    Unless liveing in a guarded compound and have concierge medical care, I expect for most the coming contagion will be very similar to the Spanish flu a century ago.

    #54754
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    Election

    It is now officially a geriatric election. Is this the best the US can offer?

    Given their age and the coronavirus it is looking more like a tontine [or deadpool!]

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