Debt Rattle May 9 2021
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May 9, 2021 at 9:06 am #74847Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
Daniel Garber Buds and Blossoms 1916 • World’s Most Vaccinated Country Sees Unprecedented Spike In Covid Cases (WaPo) • The Virus Is An Airborn
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle May 9 2021]May 9, 2021 at 9:32 am #74848V. ArnoldParticipantDaniel Garber Buds and Blossoms 1916
Wow! Love that painting; never heard of Garber…but wow…
May 9, 2021 at 10:05 am #74849DjangoParticipantFirst Hillary mouthing off about misinformation on the net and now Chelsea. Could the love of censorship be genetic?
Why is she pointing at Sugar Mountain? Curiouser and curiouser. Back down my rabbithole.
May 9, 2021 at 10:16 am #74850Mister RobotoParticipantTo continue with the topic I started at the end of the previous thread: In the case of the US, it’s pretty clear that the reason we are so fragile here right now, is that our post-2008 “recovery” was based heavily on intensive shale-oil fracking driven by printed money. Fracking never really generates enough of a net-energy gain to be sustainable, and this is especially true once all the “sweet-spots” have been thoroughly exploited. I have read speculation that we reached that point in late 2018/ early 2019.
May 9, 2021 at 10:25 am #74851DjangoParticipantStock up on petrol for your chainsaw. Another dark winter is forecast.
May 9, 2021 at 11:12 am #74852GermParticipantRetired UK Consultant Pathologist Dr. John Lee explains how they got it all wrong with Covid.
A good interview that confirms most of what we here already know.
May 9, 2021 at 11:14 am #74853GermParticipant@Mr Robo – enjoy Dmitri Orlov giving his take on the energy complex and the virus.
He’s always entertaining!
Episode_6_Part_3_1080p_FINAL from Domination State on Vimeo.
May 9, 2021 at 11:19 am #74854Mister RobotoParticipantThanks, Germ, but as is par for the course for me these days, good old obsolete XP won’t let me play the video. 🙂
May 9, 2021 at 12:48 pm #74855oxymoronParticipantMadamski just knowing that the cognoscenti are still alive and chatting has my spirits high.
We need some brain in the mother-stuffing game.
May 9, 2021 at 1:01 pm #74856oxymoronParticipantMan Chelsea seems the bossy controlling type. She may need a neck rub or a glass of wine or something. All that certainty must wear you out by the end of the day. I felt exhausted just reading her mouth-words from this computer thing.
Speaking of which – they really are tricky to makeMay 9, 2021 at 1:25 pm #74857Mister RobotoParticipantMan Chelsea seems the bossy controlling type.
A real chip off the old block, it would appear. 😉
May 9, 2021 at 1:48 pm #74858zerosumParticipantFace the facts/reality
The deciders are the enablers and your not one of themWar games always result in wasting and destroying resources that could have been used/needed for important activities.
(like a real war)Energy consumption will be rationed and delivered to critical and essential activities as determined by the deciders.
sameold, sameold
May 9, 2021 at 1:53 pm #74859zerosumParticipantEarly Sunday it’s been confirmed that China’s huge Long March 5B rocket made its out-of-control entry and plunged into the Indian Ocean Saturday night near the Maldives.
May 9, 2021 at 2:07 pm #74860Doc RobinsonParticipant• World’s Most Vaccinated Country Sees Unprecedented Spike In Covid Cases (WaPo)
It’s interesting that among its warnings about the Covid vaccines, the Swiss Policy Research site says the spike in the Seychelles is most likely “a combination of the vaccination campaign spreading the virus (even into high risk groups), and people exposing themselves to higher risks prior to full protection.”
On another page, Swiss Policy Research says that “the process of mass vaccination – with millions of high-risk people visiting vaccination centers, or being visited by mobile vaccination teams, e.g. in nursing homes – might accelerate infections, and ultimately deaths, in high-risk groups, before full vaccine protection becomes effective.”
May 9, 2021 at 2:13 pm #74861Mister RobotoParticipantWRT the RT article about fear porn: I would guess that these other times in history the author of piece is discussing referred to a rather less fragile, rather less neurotic, rather less overpopulated world. As I surmised previously, it’s not so much about Covid but rather the kind of world that Covid inflicted itself upon. It certainly didn’t help that here in “the West”, we haven’t had a major war, famine, plague, or economic collapse (though 2008 came damn close) for an awfully long time, an era one might also characterize as one of hyper-abundance compared to most human history before it. So our social, political, and economic world wasn’t just fragile and neurotic when Covid happened along, but we had also “gone soft” to a very large extent.
May 9, 2021 at 2:22 pm #74862zerosumParticipantStops on The Reality Road
1. The working middle class are making ends meet by shopping at Walmart and Costco.
2. Also, an increasingly larger population of working poor Americans use “dollar stores” across the country.
3. Millions of folks, in a pre-Covid world, who shopped at middle to upper-class shops, who can no longer afford to continue pretending that they are well-to-do, are hiding their identity by wearing face masks, and are doing their shopping at second hand stores, (Salvation Army), for survival.
4. Next stop: An affordable home. A mobile home for new grads and retires
5. Next stop: Group homes. Refugee camps.
6. Next stop: ????You said: Not in my back yard. Therefore, its not true/real.
May 9, 2021 at 2:28 pm #74863AntidoteParticipantMay 9, 2021 at 2:54 pm #74865NoiretteParticipantI tried to post a long thingie about the origins of sarscov2, but as happens often, my post doesn’t show – too many links, link shorteners, whatever.
so here is just one link,
Yuri Deigin
which is a first must read on this question.
May 9, 2021 at 3:06 pm #74866NoiretteParticipantAnother link I posted in the piece that didn’g go thru.
A 2020 article about the 6 Chinese miners who fell ill, strange pneumonia, 3 died, in 2012, there is a link to the original masters thesis in it, which I posted long ago.
The ‘origins’ stretch back that far.
Lethal Pneumonia Cases in Mojiang Miners (2012) and the Mineshaft Could Provide Important Clues to the Origin of SARS-CoV-2
May 9, 2021 at 3:15 pm #74867NoiretteParticipantThe last parag of my failed post.
The sarscov2 virus has been around for quite some time, since July 2019 at least (various analyses from EU) … a spike of serious cases in / around Wuhan alerted the docs there (they were at first ignored, then repressed) to a ‘novel virus’.
So the ‘origins’ as in ppl falling seriously sick, first in Wuhan, leading to the speculation of the virus coming from the Wuhan lab (in any case nothing to do with the wet market) is questionable. Many labs were doing Gain of Function Research, it is whole globalised circuit, intricate, and quite secret, i.e. not openly reported on. The China vs. West narrative is kinda soothing, standard, and serves to distract, send ppl to sleep. If the virus ‘escaped’ from a lab (i.e. was deliberately created, which I consider v. likely) it could be from many places, or in a very much more complex scenario than the simple ‘created in Wuhan’ story-board.
May 9, 2021 at 3:36 pm #74868zerosumParticipantGain of Function Research
Wiki has intro info.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gain_of_function_research
In virology, gain-of-function research is employed to better understand current and future pandemics.[1] In vaccine development, gain-of-function research is conducted to gain a head start on a virus and to develop a vaccine or therapeutic before it emerges.[1]May 9, 2021 at 3:48 pm #74869NoiretteParticipantthx zero sum
May 9, 2021 at 4:11 pm #74870madamski cafoneParticipant“..a group dubbed “DarkSide,” known for deploying ransomware and extorting victims while avoiding targets in post-Soviet states ..”
cuz they’ll be tracked down and tossed into a sealed sewer? The post-Soviet states already went through their crash, their period when the MAfia was the only sane economic system/governance around, and surviving whatever half-assed gubmint arose from the mess. I doubt they deal lightly with that kind of crime in their front yard.
May 9, 2021 at 4:12 pm #74871GermParticipantHere’s a paper from the Wuhan institute of virology detailing adding HIV sequences to SARS. This is from 2008.
Interestingly many scientists claim SARS-CoV-2 has HIV sequences in its genome.
They’ve all been discredited of course. /sarcMay 9, 2021 at 4:15 pm #74872GermParticipantSky News host Sharri Markson has assessed “chilling” details from a document produced by Chinese military scientists, in which they discussed weaponising SARS coronaviruses five years before the COVID-19 pandemic hit.
The documents describe SARS coronaviruses as heralding a “new era of genetic weapons” and said they can be “artificially manipulated into an emerging human – disease virus, then weaponised and unleashed in a way never seen before”.
The Chinese-language paper is called ‘The Unnatural Origin of SARS and New Species of Man-Made Viruses as Genetic Bioweapons’.
“The document also talks about the psychological terror that bioweapons can cause, it’s chilling,” Ms Markson said.May 9, 2021 at 4:21 pm #74873Mister RobotoParticipantHmmm. If Covid was designed to be deliberately released on the world, I would tend to see it more as a “disruption” attempt (which clearly succeeded) than as a bio-weapon. You would think a bio-weapon would be made to be good at killing or at least disabling healthy, military-age people.
May 9, 2021 at 4:26 pm #74874phoenixvoiceParticipant@ Mr Roboto
You are using WinXP and having trouble playing video files. Have you tried using a “video downloader” website? There are websites where you can paste in the URL of a video and the downloader will convert it to a video file, which you can then download and play.
Of course, then there the issues of having a player to play the file, and the ability to play the provided file is probably not native to XP. VLC is a good open source player, although you would likely need a version that is a decade old. There are websites that archive old installation files, if you need an older video player. And in XP you may need codecs…although a good video player will attempt to find the codecs automatically.
Then I wonder at the reason for continuing to utilize a WinXP computer. Personally, I utilize one “virtual” XP system because I use QuickBooks 2004 to do the accounting for my business. I never did see the value in paying for “upgraded” software when the version I had did everything that I need. (And by running it on a virtual system, the hardware can’t break.).
If the reason is to avoid the big corporations, avoid snooping, and you are a little tech savvy — or have time and patience available — you may want to explore the open-source GUI versions of Linux (Ubuntu, Lindows, etc.) which will give you access to “modern” web browsers and a system with more memory and processing power.
May 9, 2021 at 4:31 pm #74875Mister RobotoParticipantI have frequently wondered about how damned odd it was that it Covid started hitting the world outside China just exactly when the 2020 election season was starting up.
May 9, 2021 at 4:38 pm #74876Mister RobotoParticipantI actually do have a computer that is advanced enough that it could probably be upgraded to Windows 10, it just had XP installed into it when it was new. I’m not at all tech-savy, and upgrading from a very old version of Windows to 10 is something that’s out of my league. My concern about getting help from any computer-shop people out there is that they would be bound and determined to con me into buying a new computer from them when I don’t need a new computer.
May 9, 2021 at 4:39 pm #74877absolute galoreParticipantHappy Mother’s Day to those of TAE commentariat who identify as Mom.
May 9, 2021 at 4:50 pm #74878GermParticipantSars-Cov-2:
– NIH-funded,
– unique, man-made, furin-like cleavage site (FCS) in the spike protein (S), which is absent in other lineage B βCoVs, such as SARS-CoV, is responsible for its high infectivity and transmissibility (gain of function),
– escaped Wuhan accidentally mid-2019.Synthetic RNA-codon for the S-1 spike protein used in mRNA and DNA vaccines was provided to the US and others by Wuhan Institute of Virology.
Bad idea – spikes induce platelet clotting.Chinese vaccines (Sinopharm and Sinovac) use deactivated whole virus and do not turn the human body into spike factories.
Smart Chinese.
May 9, 2021 at 4:56 pm #74879phoenixvoiceParticipantRe: silicon chips
@ Oxymoron — thx, enjoyed the article.Since it is so complicated and resource intensive to make these chips you would think that humans would put them in things that are designed to last. You would think that humans would put them in things that really provide an added benefit by having these chips in them. You would think that humans would design their software to promote these chips being used over a long period of time.
Nope.
Our phones and tablets are fragile. When they crack the cell phone provider wants to get us to purchase a new one to prolong our contract. Small electronics are often of shoddy construction, and break in less than a year. (For one of my 14 year old sons, no pair of headphones has ever lasted even a year.)
We put silicone chips in battery testers, in doorbells, in washing machines, etc. — in devices that don’t require silicone chips to work and for which the addition of a silicone chip offers marginal utility. In most applications do I really need a thermometer that sends alerts to my cellphone about the current interior temperature of my home? If someone is home, they can adjust the thermostat or open/close the window. In most cases, if no one is home the temperature is not terribly important — it can vary by as much as 20 degrees with few adverse effects. (Okay…the houseplants might not fare well.)
And we create software that forces people to upgrade our devices, throwing away older devices that work perfectly well. Apple is worse at this than Microsoft — going so far as pushing out updates designed to slow down older devices and batteries that cannot be easily changed by the device owner. (One of the reasons for bloat in Microsoft operating systems are redundancies to ensure backwards compatibility with older hardware and software.) A few years back I ended up purchasing a newer Android device because my bank did a software upgrade that was incompatible with my then Android phone and I could no longer deposit checks using my smartphone. Websites today are triply optimized to display well for computers, tablets, and smartphones. They could be optimized for display on older computers/devices/web browsers as well, to avoid folks feeling compelled to upgrade — but that is not done.
Most of this waste is completely unnecessary. Yet, there we go, extracting and refining ever more silicone chips in billion dollar facilities run by mega-corporations…the rulers of the earth, creating the products that we all go out and buy and use, continuing their dominance.
May 9, 2021 at 4:57 pm #74880GermParticipantIndian doctor using anti-coagulant before vaccinating to prevent death by vaccination!
Why these vaccines haven’t been pulled yet is astounding.
May 9, 2021 at 5:00 pm #74881BoomerDoomer2ParticipantMister Roboto said: “A real chip off the old block, it would appear.”
In the middle of last night I came up with a new saying: “It takes a war criminal to raze a country.”
Society will only turn a corner when the Clintons and those like them are no longer covered by any media.
May 9, 2021 at 5:03 pm #74882island raiderParticipantYesterday, I tried to post a link about a very positive article on ivermectin, but ended up in some kind of spammers prison. Trying again today:
Ivermectin article
And here is Dr. Peter McCullough being interviewed on fairly mainstream media about actually treating the virus (instead of simply sending people home & telling them to come back to the hospital when they are having trouble breathing. Located this on rumble. Searched youtube & could not find. Link:
Peter McCullough interviewMay 9, 2021 at 5:20 pm #74883phoenixvoiceParticipant@ mr Roboto
If you look for a refurbished computer that already has Win10 installed, it will likely cost you less than having you WinXP computer upgraded — there is no direct upgrade path from WinXP or WinVista to Win10. It would be a new installation and migrating in your old data. Alternatively, you could probably find a refurbished Win10 computer for about $300 on eBay with some patience and time looking.
If you go this route, be mindful of the connection to the monitor. XP usually used VGA (analog, 15 pin plug secured with screws) or DVI (digital, multiple pin combinations possibly with a bar or two, secured with screws). The current standards are HDMI and Display Port (both digital.). Many monitors and computers have a variety of these ports on them, and there are adapters to go between them, but it is helpful to check out the monitor ports before making a purchase so that you know what to expect.
If you want to consider upgrading what you have, let me know how much memory you have and the processor model — I can tell you whether or not it is likely to run Win10 well. I’d suggest swapping out your hard drive (which is hopefully SATA and not IDE) with an SSD — they are now inexpensive and much faster than any hard drive from an XP computer (costing around $100, depending on size). Then you could keep your current hard drive as a secondary drive, with access to your current data.
(Did I mention? My primary means of making a living is through my own computer service company.)
May 9, 2021 at 6:06 pm #74884WESParticipantGreco:
I replied to you on 3rd page yesterday! Yes I worked as a field engineer for BE 1976 to 1984.
May 9, 2021 at 6:16 pm #74885WESParticipantMister Roboto:
Instead of messing with a new computer or upgrading software just buy a cheap $100 tablet to surf the internet with!. It comes with software. That is how I solved your situation while controlling the costs. The tablet is all I ever use these days. If I need a real computer my two kids have computers.
The hardest part was learning how to use an on screen keyboard but this old dog did learn! My one finger typing is pretty fast now!
May 9, 2021 at 6:23 pm #74886WESParticipantMadamski:
Darkside probably don’t bother with post-Soviet countries because first they have no money and second they probably don’t have much in the way of computer systems to hack! I notice darkside don’t bother 3rd world countries either probably for the same reason! Nothing to ransom!
May 9, 2021 at 6:38 pm #74887Michael ReidParticipantThe Western world may be going bankrupt
https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/523152-housing-price-planet-ponzi/
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