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    Jean-Michel Basquiat Self Portrait 1982   • Hamas is Winning the Battle for Gaza (Scott Ritter) • Gaza: A Pause Before The Storm (Pepe Escobar) •
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle November 24 2023]

    #147270
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Here we are, 24 November. No crash anywhere. Nothing happens. Nothing will ever happen again.

    “NYC Mayor Eric Adams Accused Of Sexual Assault

    Adams did not get The Memo to stay on message and tried to use free speech so his protection has been lifted. Kind of like how he removed all protection from NYers and crime.

    “Israeli prison authorities have unleashed a brutal campaign of repression against Palestinian prisoners, including severe beatings, humiliation, and the deprivation of food, health care, and basic amenities.”

    “if there’s a black man in the gutter, there has to be a white man in the gutter with him, holding him there” –MLK (Can’t seem to attribute this quote. To him or anyone.)

    I wouldn’t want to do this, since then –I– would have to be dirty, angry, annoyed, perhaps guilty or fearful, all those things. Who wants to annoy and beat up other humans all day? That’s one reason why every person we send to prison is a catastrophe. We have imprisoned both him AND 3 prison guards on 8-hour shifts. You really must, MUST solve these problems long before, for the second reason that the environment turns common guards into psychos and criminals, and also a high suicide rate, all very hushed up as news from prison only displays the level to which you can do virtually anything and get away with it. It’s a fair cop that every prisoner mere makes more criminals instead of the opposite.

    “• How the Democratic Party Faked an American Insurrection (Robert Bridge)

    You don’t say…. Said 100,000 insurrectionists with 0 weapons.

    ““And just like that the J6 Committee’s violent insurrection narrative has crumbled..”

    Crumbled to who? All the man on the street around here still believe it.

    “Now, Republicans are demanding justice be served and that the incarcerated protesters be immediately set free”

    But haven’t. Three years later. Doesn’t look like the next few weeks either. Like 2A or abortion, simply too much political profit to be made to actually help any real people. It’s much more effective and profitable to HARM as many people instead, or else, logically, they wouldn’t do it.

    ““If you are asking whether the violence at the Capitol on January 6 was part of some operation orchestrated by FBI sources or agents the answer is emphatically no,” FBI Director Christopher Wray

    Great! Then you won’t mind releasing all the records we asked for to prove that then. So three years later, where are they? Given the FBI has withheld and tampered with evidence, why aren’t those prisoners released for a mistrial?

    Oh by the way, Mr. Wray: did anyone try to find the D.C. bomber yet? It took a year to put out his wanted poster, perhaps I would like to know why?

    ““24 minutes” to explain to Trump “that he can’t manage this war … he can’t bring peace because of Putin.”

    Because everything is the other guy’s fault. Not me!!! I’m a helpless darling! That really shows a person’s foundational character and quite honestly, their practical value. A second thing as well: as Trump slowly moves from man to myth, even if they erase him nothing will now change, it’s THEM who gave Trump or Putin his power. THEY, like Ze, say with every word and action HE is the baddie. THEREFORE HE HAS THE POWER. So if you, Ze, and you, DNC are simply powerless, why should I talk to you or think about you at all since you’ve just told me you’re useless? Irrelevant? Pointless? I got things to do here, I want to talk to the man in charge, not the man on the street.

    “On Monday, US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin traveled to Kiev and declared the US would “continue to stand with Ukraine”

    …By continuing to NOT give them weapons and other material they need, especially as it’s NATO’s war policy to fight on-foot ground attacks with zero air cover.

    MacGregor: “the Ukrainian Secret police, rounding people up and …disappearing them…”

    Uh yeah, you see how this won’t work? So Captain Z, your solution to all problems is to take action by which there are LESS people? LESS soldiers? Problem? Erase democracy (they move, less people), Erase Church (they move, less support, less people), people talk about this? Arrest them, less people, also tie up 3x shift prison guards. They still won’t help? Round them up and shoot them, less people.

    I’m not a military genius or nothin’, but I suspect this might not be a winning strategy. This is why the “This is MY country, so I do NOT want to burn it down, but build it” “These are MY people, so the happier and more of them they are, the more powerful and happy I am” …And this is why, counterintuitively, the Moral Right wins and is a huge advantage in war that is difficult to calculate.

    “The botched counteroffensive has caused the Kiev regime a serious shortage of human[s]”

    Botched? Yeah, by the EU and NATO. NATO always fights wars with zero air power, right? That’s why the U.S. is going to dismantle the Air Force and retire all our carriers. Ukraine proves running tanks into minefileds with no air cover works just swell. You can always win wars by not stopping the flow of arms from Russian factories to the front lines.

    MacGregor: “And the folks in Washington are standing on a mountain of lies”..

    “Johnson’s reluctance to tee up a vote on Ukraine poses a real danger, with US military officials warning earlier this month that there was only about $1 billion remaining in the Ukraine war chest,”

    …That’s okay, the Pentagon will just find another $6B they forgot about somewhere. Happens all the time! Then no one comes down and arrests them for the audit of books.

    There’s what $40 Trillion fake money discovered in the various department books? It’s almost like someone got the plates to print (fake) Treasury bonds and has been running the presses white hot since the ‘90s. That’s aside from the BANKS’ fake treasury bonds, where they just CLAIM to have more, and-prove-that-we-don’t. (hypothecation, 100:1, why not 1,000:1? Who will check? Moody’s? In ’08 when they threatened to downgrade the government had them investigated and arrested)

    “• Eurozone Economy ‘Stuck In The Mud’ – Economist (RT)

    “Stuck in the mud”? I think they’re actively shrinking about as fast as any economy ever has. …That’s slower than you think, but look in history and it adds up and has consequences.

    “The judicial ruling stated that the €60 billion (over $65 billion) earmarked for the pandemic response cannot be repurposed for other initiatives, like advancing green manufacturing”

    Jesus, I would think not or every nation would do it every hour. “We have a $500B dog-catching budget” (re-allocated into a general, untracked, slush fund for ME)

    ““Everybody seems to be happy, nobody’s talking about those left aside.”

    Ah, Eriksson, you’re supposed to NOT CARE what happens to everyone else and let them all die in a fire. Get with the program. We attack and kill the most vulnerable and feed them to the rich, silly. Look at payday loans. Or the State lottery.

    “European lawmakers approved plans on Wednesday to remove the national veto”

    Which ones? They have like 10 layers of government. The EU Parliament, which are different and don’t agree with national parliament, which they never use either since they abdicate power not by law but by treaty?

    “European Union as a community of sovereign states is being abolished and a superstate is being created without any consent of the people,”

    Wot a shock! It’s almost like I and everyone else didn’t say this every day since 1995. And they didn’t behave just as badly or worse than we predicted they might.

    That’s okay: YOU NEVER HAD ANY POWER ANYWAY. The EU parliament is a student council showpiece advisory board, while the unelected Soviet bureaucracy has veto power, with no explanation, over every nation state and its representatives. Therefore does whatever it feels like with your money. Everyone signed up and thought that was great. Having never seen corruption on earth before, and certainly not ever in Europe! So they had nothing to fear.

    “AI weapons autonomously decide…”

    Well, sort of. But they already do, that’s what “Land Mine” is. It detects a thing and kills it with no human oversight. So the difference here is what? Cool marketing words?

    “U.S Army vaccine not required”

    You ARE kidding me, right? They’ll just change that the minute something, anything, nothing at all, happens. They’ve already shown that because it was ALREADY illegal under religious exemption. People’s undying trust in Daddy-that-rapes-them is clearly the missing Dark Matter that makes up 2/3rds of the universe.

    “Not required.” Are you kidding? When they decide to chop off your skull and embed your brain into an AI robotank they’ll use the same legal premise: You’re U.S. Government property. And if you try to avoid it by committing suicide, you’re damaging U.S. Government property. (both of these are already legal realities)

    #147271
    Red
    Participant

    Hmm sigma, is that you? It may be most here @TAE.

    #147272
    Red
    Participant

    “The increase in excess deaths in 2022 is highly statistically significant (extreme event),” Dowd wrote in his report. “The results indicate that from late 2021 a novel phenomenon leading to increased malignant neoplasm deaths appears to be present in individuals aged 15 to 44 in the UK.”

    The study’s results in the rate of cancer deaths above the historic norm in 2022 for ages 15-44 in the U.K. included:

    A 28% rise in fatal breast cancer rates in women.
    An 80% increase in pancreatic cancer deaths among women and a 60% increase among men.
    A 55% increase among men in colon cancer deaths and a 41% increase in women.
    A 120% increase in fatal melanomas among men and a 35% increase in women.
    A 35% increase in brain cancer deaths among men and a 12% rise in women.
    A 60% increase in cancer death rates among men in cancers “without site specification” and a 55% increase among women.

    Young People Dying of Cancer at ‘Explosive’ Rates, UK Government Data Show. Study

    #147273
    Red
    Participant

    @alexander-carpenter #147228 yesterday.
    Thanks for that link. I had bought the climate change orthodoxy up until about eight years ago. I had faith in the “science”. I only started to question my faith when I started to look into the papers supporting this trope. A lot of the “supporting” science turned out to be studies of papers that also seemed to be, more often than not, studies of other papers. No attempts at replication of said projections, just a big circle jerk. Suppress any dissenting voices usually by ad hominem to the extreme and not by showing that they were wrong in the laborious way of doing the work to show where they went wrong. As it turns out this method of science is also the method being used in the covid scam. What I have learned from this process is to take with a grain of salt anything that the authority of the day says, if not, ignore them outright. If when looking for something closer to the reality is what you seek, follow the fucking money! That will show you where not to go.

    #147274
    Red
    Participant

    No sooner finished my post to AC this pops up:

    In a previous article I initially published in February 2023 titled ‘1500 scientists say ‘Climate Change Not Due to Co2’ – The real environment movement was hijacked,’ I provided evidences and testimonies from renowned international climate scientists that contradict the UN assertion that climate change is caused by CO2 emissions.

    I also referred to the conclusion of 1500 climate scientists and climate professionals at the Climate Intelligence Foundation that the climate changes naturally and slowly in its own cycle, and that solar activity is the dominant factor in climate; and that CO2 emissions or methane from livestock, such as cows, are not the dominant factors in climate change. This is comprehensively detailed in the books Transcending the Climate Change Deception Toward Real Sustainability and in the book Climate CO2 Hoax.

    The UN climate change, sustainable development and green economy policies over the past 30 years are little more than worldwide marketing tricks that have tragically brainwashed two generations of young people who do not understand what the UN actually is, and who is it is really designed to serve.

    This current globalised system involves the promotion of beliefs and fake science that claim to be unchallengeable truths, but are, in fact, ideologies in which evidence is manipulated, twisted, and distorted to prove the ‘governing idea’, and thus promote its worldwide dissemination. They start with the conclusion they want and then wrench and manipulate what scant evidence they can to fit that conclusion. Man-made climate change due to anthropogenic carbon emission is a major example of this.

    Institutions, including the UN, the World Economic Forum (WEF), and the World Health Organisation (WHO), are privately-motivated unelected unaccountable organisations controlled by the source of debt-money creation, i.e., the world private-banking cartel; and are just clever marketing tools and political mechanisms for implementing and maintaining a corrupt worldwide system, under the clever guise of ‘fixing the problems of the world’.

    The word “sustainable” was hijacked decades ago,

    The Climate Change Mental Asylum – CO2 Fanatics Suffering from Ideological Insanity

    #147275
    tboc
    Participant

    15% known matter and energy, 85% dark matter and energy
    15% developed nations, 85% global south (choose the description that suits you personally)

    the 85% dark matter and energy drive the expansion of the verse
    soon the 85% global south will drive the human economic engine. A moment of discovery is on the horizon. In a manner similar to the verse the rate of expansion of the global south is increasing and will be seen to overcome the mass of the developed nations.

    the standard model theorists cannot accept their model is inadequate to explain the physical reality just as economists in the developed nations cannot accept their model is inadequate. The hidden overcomes what is seen. There are things which cannot be touched or measured that are real.
    No store of value, no profit. A black hole deals harshly with that deemed to be indispensable. Still, information can escape a black hole.

    Red, hope you enjoyed the images of the thoughtful man checking his cell phone and nodding wisely as much as i. <emoji>

    #147276
    tboc
    Participant

    Red, one definetly has to be quiet when their aspiration is to inject carborundum micro spheres into the gears.

    #147277
    zerosum
    Participant

    RIM makes it easy – Executive summary THERE IS NO SANTA

    the case for ‘genocide’ grows stronger

    Gaza: a pause before the storm Pepe Escobar NOV 23, 2023
    Real journalists have been working in Gaza 24/7 since October 7 – dozens of whom have been killed by the Israeli military machine in what Reporters Sans Frontieres calls “one of the deadliest tolls in a century.”

    the ongoing genocide, shown in all its gruesome detail for the entire world to see.
    in just six weeks, social media has exposed them to what mainstream media hid for decades.

    Several nations should have by now invoked the Genocide Convention – given that Israeli politicians and officials have been bragging, on the record, about razing Gaza and besieging, starving, killing, and mass-transferring its Palestinian population.

    No geopolitical actor has dared thus far.

    ———–

    IDF Knew Real Hamas HQ While Lying About al-Shifa 


    IDF Knew Real Hamas HQ While Lying About al-Shifa
    November 23, 2023 by Gareth Porter

    the IDF had gained control of the real Hamas command and control center in an area where the Hamas leadership had previously had their above-ground offices in the Al Atatra neighborhood, in the extreme northwest of Beit Lahiya city, 8.5km away from al-Shifa.

    As the IDF leaked to The Jerusalem Post in a story published Nov. 14, the discovery was made “several days ago” of a tunnel with an elevator that reached thirty meters underground, compared with only five meters underground in other tunnels. Furthermore it had been equipped with oxygen, air conditioning and more advanced communications than seen anywhere else.

    massive deception aimed at U.S. media and public opinion in order to justifying Israel’s war of obliteration of the population of Gaza.

    Discovery of Real Hamas High Command Bunker

    Map shows route to al-Shifa Hospital from the real HQ. (Google Maps)

    That major IDF discovery, made on or before the Nov. 11 false stories about al-Shifa, threatened to undermine the Israeli political campaign to justify the IDF’s takeover and destruction of Gaza’s hospitals on the grounds that they were “human shields” for Hamas.
    ————
    • How the Democratic Party Faked an American Insurrection (Robert Bridge)

    • Pfizer Sues Poland Over Covid-19 Vaccine (RT)

    • Eurozone Economy ‘Stuck In The Mud’ – Economist (RT)

    • Germany to Choose Lifeline for Its Embattled Economy Over Ukraine Aid (Sp.)

    #147278
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/11/24/israel-hamas-war-live-israel-continues-gaza-attacks-ahead-of-truce
    PM says 12 Thai captives released amid Gaza truce

    By Mersiha Gadzo and Edna Mohamed
    Published On 24 Nov 2023
    24 Nov 2023

    #147279
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-hamas-set-to-release-23-thai-hostages-in-side-deal-brokered-by-iran/
    Report: Hamas set to release 23 Thai hostages in side deal brokered by Iran
    London-based pan-Arab news site says Tehran gave Bangkok details on the condition of hostages kidnapped in October 7 attacks
    By TOI STAFF

    2023. (AP Photo/Sakchai Lalit, File)
    Nearly two dozen Thai nationals believed held by Hamas in Gaza may be released on the sidelines of a hostage swap deal taking place between Israel and the terror group, according to a report Thursday.

    Bangkok has been holding separate talks to repatriate some its nationals believed kidnapped by Hamas during the terror group’s deadly rampage through southern Israel on October 7, in which some 1,200 people, including a number of Thai workers, were killed and some 240 people abducted.

    On Friday, Hamas is set to release 13 women and children in exchange for Palestinians being held in Israeli prisons, part of a deal that will halt intense fighting for several days and is expected to see 50 hostages and 150 Palestinian prisoners released.

    Together in Hell
    Keep Watching

    According to an unnamed Egyptian source quoted in London-based pan-Arab news site Al-Araby Al-Jadeed, Thursday, Hamas is also set to release 23 Thai hostages following Iranian mediation between the Palestinian terror group and Bangkok.

    Iran has provided Bangkok with details on the condition of the Thai abductees set to be released. Bangkok says it believes 26 of its citizens were abducted on October 7.

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    The deal is separate from the Qatar-mediated temporary truce between Israel and Hamas set to go into effect Friday at 7 a.m.

    This handout picture released by Thailand’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs on October 20, 2023, shows coffins of Thai workers killed in the Hamas assault during a ceremony attended by Thailand’s ambassador to Israel Pannabha Chandraramya (R) and officials on the tarmac of Ben-Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv on October 19, 2023, before being repatriated to Bangkok. (Photo by Handout / Thailand’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs / AFP)
    On Wednesday, Thai Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin said he was hopeful a pause in the fighting would allow the Thai hostages to leave Gaza safely.

    Last week, a member of the Thai hostage release negotiating team said that his government had been given assurances by Hamas that 25 of its nationals held hostage by the Palestinian terror group were “safe,” and could be released in the coming days.

    Tens of thousands of Thai nationals were working in Israel when the Hamas attack unfolded last month. Many were fieldhands in agricultural areas near the Gaza border, leaving them exposed to terrorist fire. At least 32 Thai nationals were killed in the massacres, according to Bangkok.

    #147280
    zerosum
    Participant

    ^^^^
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    #147281
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    Interesting art presentation today. Suggests several titles:

    ‘Self Made Man’
    or
    Made by Committee’

    maybe others also.

    #147282
    kultsommer
    Participant

    As for the yesterday’s posted lunar rover riddle:
    1. Google Q&A page regarding the topic:

    People also ask
    Can you still see the lunar rover on the Moon?
    As cool as it would be to gaze up at the moon and see one of the lunar rovers, it’s just not possible. Unfortunately, there is no telescope on Earth powerful enough to spot any of the objects (that do not exist – my emphasis) that have been left behind. Not even the Hubble could see what’s left on the moon.

    2. For this video, no comment is necessary:

    Hope everybody had great feast last night.

    #147283
    John Day
    Participant

    How many Thai agricultural workers were killed by Israeli helicopters?
    Thanks for the find, Zerosum.

    V.Arnold, can you get some Thai street buzz on this?

    #147284
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Native American Group Sues NFL Team Owner Over Redskins Name Change

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/native-american-group-sues-nfl-team-owner-over-redskins-name-change

    Anti-wokeness

    One native people’s ceiling apparently is another native people’s floor.

    How hilarious is that.

    This is ‘our nations capital’s’ football team.

    The perfect turd in the punch bowl of major league sports

    Woke is a Joke

    Dead last as a franchise

    Just like the Empire of Lies to have this as there mascot team.

    “A lawsuit advocating for restoring the name Redskins to the National Football League (NFL)’s Washington team alleges that a rival Native American organization improperly prompted the change to the team now called the Commanders….

    the Commanders favored one group of Native Americans over another—EQUAL—group of Native Americans,” the complaint further states. “Favoring one group of powerful Native Americans while literally attacking the identity of another is selective racism in action.”

    Although the Washington Redskins was previously a top 10 NFL brand out of 32 teams, the Washington Commanders is now at the bottom of the list, according to Mr. Lewis, who believes multiple name changes didn’t help its score.

    “There was this slow degradation over time, but it’s really accelerated downward since they started to change the names,” Mr. Lewis said. “Based on the data and on my reading of the situation, the name change is entirely a negative at this point, especially to the Commanders. Frankly, there’s been some discussion about changing the name again.”

    #147285
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://nationalpost.com/news/israel-hamas-war-day-48
    The National Post mixes facts with lies, misinformation and editing omitting/omissions

    “Those released include 13 Israeli citizens, some of whom are dual citizens, in addition to 10 Thai citizens and a Filipino citizen,” said Majed al-Ansari, the ministry’s spokesman. Qatar was a key mediator in the hostage release.
    ( No mention of the participation of Iran for 10 Thai citizens and a Filipino citizen as part of a separate deal)
    ———-
    JERUSALEM—Palestinian authorities have released a list of 39 Palestinian prisoners expected to be released on Friday, including 24 women and 15 teenage boys, in exchange for 13 Israeli hostages held by Hamas in Gaza.
    The swap is part of a four-day truce in the Israel-Hamas war. The truce began Friday after seven weeks of war.

    The Palestinian Prisoners’ Club, an advocacy group, said the 39 detainees from the occupied West Bank and east Jerusalem will be delivered to the International Committee of the Red Cross at Israel’s Ofer Prison near the West Bank city of Ramallah.

    Their release is to take place after 4 p.m. local time (1400 GMT), when Hamas is due to return the 13 Israeli hostages to Israel.

    Most of the 15 Palestinian teenagers to be released Friday were arrested over incitement and stone-throwing, as well as the broadly defined charge of “supporting terrorism.”
    The 24 women include some convicted of attempted murder and sentenced to years long prison terms for attacks against Israeli security forces.
    ———–

    BEITOUNIA, West Bank—Israeli security forces are firing tear gas at a crowd of Palestinians gathered to greet prisoners who are to be released from Israeli jails as part of a truce between Israel and Hamas, AP journalists in the West Bank witnessed.

    Close to 7,000 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel on security charges, including about 1,800 arrested since the start of the war.

    Tear gas was fired to push away crowds from the vicinity of Ofer prison, from where the prisoners are to be released later on Friday.
    ———–
    Qatar said a total of 24 hostages were freed — including 13 Israelis. According to Times of Israel, the names of the hostages released are: Channa Katzir, 77; Margalit Mozes, 77; Yafa Ader, 85; Hannah Perry, 79; Adina Moshe, 72; Danielle Aloni, 44; Emilia Aloni, 9; Ruthi Monder, 78; Keren Monder, 54; and Ohad Monder, 9; Aviv Asher, 2; Raz Asher, 5 and Doron Katz-Asher, 34.
    ———
    (Not included in the ceasefire)
    JERUSALEM—Israeli forces shot and killed a 12-year-old Palestinian boy in the occupied West Bank, Palestinian health officials said Friday, as violence surges in the territory under the shadow of the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza.

    The boy was killed Thursday in the village of Beita near the flashpoint city of Nablus in the northern West Bank, the officials said.

    The Israeli military said Palestinians threw stones when soldiers entered the village and that troops responded with live fire. The military said it was looking into the circumstances of the boy’s death.

    Since the Israel-Hamas war began seven weeks ago, the West Bank has seen one of the deadliest periods in at least two decades. Israeli soldiers and settlers have killed 229 Palestinians, including 52 children and minors under the age of 18, in arrest raids and violent confrontations, according to U.N. figures.
    ———–
    DEIR AL-BALAH, Gaza Strip—Israeli troops fatally shot two Palestinians and wounded 11 others as they headed toward the main combat zone in northern Gaza despite warnings by the Israeli army to stay put.

    An Associated Press journalist saw the two bodies and the wounded as they arrived at a hospital in the town of Deir al-Balah in the southern half of Gaza. The injured had been shot in the legs.

    Friday’s shooting came hours after the Israeli military warned hundreds of thousands of displaced Palestinians who sought refuge in southern Gaza not to attempt to return to their homes in the northern half of the territory, the focus of Israel’s ground offensive.

    The military had dropped leaflets on southern Gaza saying that returning to northern Gaza is prohibited and dangerous.

    Since a four-day truce went into effect Friday morning, hundreds of Palestinians were seen trying to head to northern Gaza.

    Witnesses said Israeli troops are opening fire on people trying to head north.

    Sofian Abu Amer, who had fled Gaza City, said he decided to risk heading north to check on his home.
    ———
    (Biden is claiming the credit for the cease fire)
    ———-
    (There is no mention if cease fire applies to Hezbollah and N. Israel)
    (Not included in the ceasefire)

    #147286
    Kassandra
    Participant

    Is there anyone that reads this site that actually believes humans went to the moon?

    #147287
    WES
    Participant

    So sea angles need brain food!

    As for the moon, I bought some cheese on sale yesterday!

    When I worked, we use to joke that if you accidently killed your electronic meter, the company required you to file numerous long detailed reports, but if you accidently killed yourself, no reports were required!

    In over a year working in 4 countries in Africa, the biggest wild animal I ever saw, was a wild turkey! OK, I saw camels but they are beasts!

    #147288
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Is there anyone that reads this site that actually believes humans went to the moon?

    Probably the same people, who like me, *know* the earth is round.

    I am an engineer mentored by geniuses that worked on the Apollo program (my step-granddad was a senior Rocketdyne engineer), all *men* whose veracity & character was beyond reproach ~ Interesting to note that not one of those *men* was a democrat, nor to my knowledge, is there a modern equivalent to their type in the under 50 generations.

    I am also a acquaintance/friend of Buzz Aldrin, so there’s that too.

    But you’re right, TAE has become a repository of Americanophobia neurotics + other sundry agendas.

    Third-party evidence for Apollo Moon landings is evidence, or analysis of evidence, about the Moon landings that does not come from either NASA or the U.S. government (the first party), or the Apollo Moon landing hoax theorists (the second party). This evidence provides independent confirmation of NASA’s account of the six Apollo program Moon missions flown between 1969 and 1972.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

    Quod. Erat. Demonstrandum.

    #147289
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Men Pretending To Be Women Go To Lunch With Man Pretending To Be Catholic

    .

    “It’s a match made in pretend heaven,” said local man Angelo Russo as he threw on a dress….

    According to sources at the Vatican, Pope Francis personally scheduled the make-believe playdate. “Haha, look at me, I’m Catholic!” laughed Pope Francis as he welcomed the men in wigs….

    …Oh look! Here comes my favorite priest Father Rupnik, pretending to not be a serial abuser….

    Organized religion shares so many endearing characteristics with Organized Crime

    #147290
    Oroboros
    Participant

    #147291
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Meanwhile in Woke-tard Sanctuary City Chicago they are considering tiny houses for the immigrant waves, but the native Chicago homeless are lucky to get cardboard boxes.

    Priorities, Priorities, Priorities

    The measure of your character

    .

    #147292
    Oroboros
    Participant

    I know sperm counts are dangerously low but I guess brain cells are even lower in Duh’merica.

    #147293
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Parting comment:

    The multi-generational insanity emanating via The West has nothing, NO-THING, to do with the former Democratic Republic of The United States of America, which was founded under Natural Law on July 4th, 1776.

    The Robber Barons (nka The Deep Swamp) + The City of London invented the totalitarian *FICTION* which is currently running *ruining* The West (1913 – 1933 – 1947 – 1963), which I refer to as The UniParty GlobalCap Empire, ratifying the consolidated control of The West’s sovereign wealth, power & institutions through suspension of the USCON + proscribing the use of *real* money (gold & silver) by The People.

    Americans, like myself & my family, protested against this monumental *shift* in the status quo, but impoverished “citizens” (mostly hyphenated “amerikans”) voted for “representatives” that usurped restrictions established under The Founding Documents ~ Simply put, “They” sold We The People’s birthright for a chicken-in-every-pot 😐

    All documented historical *FACT* (I’ve posted the details previously), with only a minuscule minority even aware in 2023, although on a Spiritual level *many* suffer bouts of cringing cognitive dissonance, but attempting to *THINK* your way out of CONSEQUENCES created via multiple generations CHOOSING flimflammer deception(s) has fomented a pathological Sea-Of-Noise obsession with The Problem(s), effectively blinding most to The Solution:

    There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, But the end thereof are the ways of death.

    Even in laughter the heart is sorrowful; And the end of that mirth is heaviness.

    Then there are multitudes of sociopath hustlers that promise Let’s make America great again!, a Thousand Points of Light, Putting People First, Change You Can Believe In, seeking only to profit from the chaos 🙄

    The Sons of Liberty fought & died to assert as a matter of Natural Law the ability of a people to assume political independence, unified in Spiritual Sanity.

    Could it happen again?

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    #147294
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    Is there anyone that reads this site that actually believes humans went to the moon?

    Just logged in and saw this.

    Thanks for the excellent response VP. As one who grew up during that time and followed the space program, I’ve never doubted the integrity of the moon landings. Were there military projects that piggy-backed onto NASA’s space program which the public was never made aware of? Most likely. Did the astronauts have any UFO encounters that were hidden from the public? Probably. Did Neil Armstrong walk on the moon? Definitely!

    #147295
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The Road to Hell is paved with ‘good intentions’

    Situational awareness and timing are everything.

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    #147296
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The way Media Whores often present the ‘news’.

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    #147297
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    Much like Ukraine, all the people getting slaughtered in Palestine are just regular nobodies. Murdered, crippled, burnt to shit. Meanwhile fat faced fucks blah,blah,blah on talmudvision telling the retards how to think, Ritter included. playing their roles in the NWO game. It’s a disgusting spectacle. They want the rest of us just as dead. Count on it. For some reason…people dont seem to want to face the pure Evil, cant grok it. They hate nature, they hate God and they sure as shit hate all of us. Cattle. Money is the root of Evil. Follow the money.

    #147298
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Maxwell Quest
    Did Neil Armstrong walk on the moon? Definitely!

    Here here!!!

    #147299
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    How many Thai agricultural workers were killed by Israeli helicopters?
    Thanks for the find, Zerosum.

    V.Arnold, can you get some Thai street buzz on this?

    The numbers I’ve heard were 39 killed in the attack.
    There are many (thousands+) of Thai workers in Israel; mostly agricultural workers AFAIK…

    #147300
    sinnycool
    Participant

    Re “Is there anyone that reads this site that actually believes humans went to the moon?”

    Count me in and thanks to the other two replies.

    I wonder which of the six manned Apollo landings is in question?

    During those events I was and still am a fairly passionate and active amateur radio operator and along with many of other similarly interested hams and short wave listeners I followed with interest the US ham who listened live to Apollo I, here https://www.arrl.org/eavesdropping-on-apollo-11 and listened to his recorded clips. There was no doubt he and his gear were the real deal, it was fascinating.

    I have visited the Australian site at the Parks CSIRO Observatory on several occasions, it was the actual listening post for the Apollo I when the moon was on the wrong side of the earth for the US mission control. Much of the live traffic went through that site.

    50 years after its role in the first moon landing, Australia looks to a bright future in space exploration

    There were many many people who, like me, have listened to their recordings and looked at the huge collections of data and “stuff” that arose from the Apollo missions, one example was the original ink pen chart showing Armstrong’s heart beat and blood pressure which was recorded in real time from his suti monitor was rather nice.

    Again all this was the real deal, the levels of detail and complexity, the blotches and errors, the extra voices in the commentary, every tiny part added together to create an overwhelmingly non-disputable body of evidence involving hundreds of clever, credible and talented people.

    It was a great time in human history to be interested and alive.

    As to the level denialism on this site, it is very disheartening. All part of the sad mad patchwork called the Human Condition. It’s no wonder we’ve not been able to improve our lot since pre-history, humans are a waste of space – pun intended.

    #147302
    Kimo
    Participant

    Re “Is there anyone that reads this site that actually believes humans went to the moon?”
    I saw the assembly room for the lunar modules, circa 1968, thanks to my father who was associated with the project from inception. The modules were lined up, two rows either side in a hanger, in various stages of construction. The discussion should end with public launches, and the visible landing stages that remain on the moon. I would not quickly discount stories of a publicity Plan B, although obvious failure were not covered up as we suffered some horrendous public disasters like Apollo 1 along the way.
    How sad that astronauts had to suffer those embarrassing “interviews”. It reminds me of the culmination of the recent movie Oppenheimer, where he and Einstein discuss the terrible ordeal that such public figures suffer, because of their incidental discoveries.
    So now, can move on to the flat earth?

    #147303
    sinnycool
    Participant

    @ Kimo

    I’ve long thought – tongue in cheek – that all the irreconcilable differences between us, all the inter-personal hostility, the family fights and all the “irrationality” has been man’s saving characteristic – up till now.

    How else do we leave home and colonise crazy unlovable places, or, more to the point:

    The Heaven’s Gate sect appear to have been outwardly rational people yet they died attempting to leave earth for a spaceship hidden in the tail of the Hale-Bop comet that had been sent to rescue them from the impending destruction of the planet…

    If they’d have been correct they would have lived and the rest of humanity would have been destroyed.

    If we all happily lived in peace in the same place we’d have been wiped out by any number of things ranging from meteor strikes through plagues and famines etc etc.

    The sad part is that now when we are supposedly global citizens there is no way we can or will cooperate even if it means our destruction.

    #147339
    Kassandra
    Participant

    Thanks for all the interesting replies. So many sound exactly like many replies to other questions, about the JFK assassination, 911, covid.

    It really is such a shame we lost all the technology and are unable to return to the moon. The laws of physics must have changed, or something.

    #147340
    Kimo
    Participant

    Thank you @sinnycool, I’ll let those thoughts ferment for a while.

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