Debt Rattle October 27 2024
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October 27, 2024 at 9:17 am #172663
Raúl Ilargi Meijer
KeymasterJoseph Mallord William Turner Sunrise over Plain, with Figures 1830 • Fever Dream (James Howard Kunstler) • Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, RFK Jr.
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle October 27 2024]October 27, 2024 at 10:49 am #172665tboc
Participant“Kelly, a retired Marine Corps general, worked for the Trump administration from 2017 to 2019.”(ET)
“The biggest mistake I made, was I picked… a few people that I should not have picked..”(RT)in the event Mr. Trump understands who our real adversaries are he is not disclosing the reality to his supporters.
in the event Mr. Trump does not understand who our real adversaries are: lipstick on the pigThe comments that Mr. Trump made about Issis early in the interview are quite troubling.
One only need look at the history of Saddam Hussein to understand Issis.
A friend of a friend, an enemy of an enemy and the creation and destruction of surrogates in the sense of geopolitics is riba.Mr. Trump should be elected. I do not believe we understand what is in store for us. Russiagate is only the prelude to the next short period of time.
I’ll tip my hat to the new Constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again – TownshendOctober 27, 2024 at 10:50 am #172666Dr. D
Participant““It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.” —George Orwell, 1984
Why are you making George Orwell right???
Btw, I woke up with the knowledge that the war is over. We won on 25 October, 2024. Immediately ran into a psychic who said the same thing. Take it for what it’s worth, I don’t see anything out there, election, Kamala missing, interview, etc. But wars don’t turn on and off like a movie, on and off like a light. Even after steps on steps: the war was won, then we sit down and sign, then we clean up people who haven’t heard in Germany. Then we carefully test and demobilize, how many months until we go home? Oh it was many years, really. You could say we’re still there. So on what day was the war over? VE Day? We picked one, and you should pick one, but in the thick of it it’s hard to see and be sure. So.
“Rogan-Trump podcast”
I thought it was boring. Engaging, but boring, as nothing was said. Confirms to me that Dum-Dum is a mascot and they don’t tell anything about the big plans. Which is what you should do, of course, but they’re all like “Trump”!!! HE is the one!”… no he is not. If he vanishes, we’ll move on immediately and continue to restore our country with some other narrative and front man.
Like so many things, I guess this matters to people, it really means something to them, and I respect that, their excitement causes motivation, is contagious, shows the momentum. But means nothing to me and doesn’t change anything on the logical plane.
Maybe it’s something completely different: this is the VE Day we point to as the end of the old media. CNN, CBS, all sidelined, pointless. Elections and debates are run on eg Rogan now. And that is almost certainly true, but again, that comes in slowly like a tide, and we pick one arbitrary wave as the top point.
“• Over 80% of Americans Support Voter ID and Proof of Citizenship Laws (Turley)This was said in Rogan, but there’s no new information. No one can come up with any reason you wouldn’t have ID for voting. Not a good reason, not a bad reason, no reason, and when 80% of the country are in agreement on it.
So essentially everybody knows it and we all ignore it. But since voting is mainly how you wouldn’t ignore it, it’s pretty difficult to remove. I’m sure people on the beaches all around the world will be happy to advise me on who we should shoot to straighten this right out using violence and Civil War. As long as it’s somebody else’s problem, I’ll advise all day. If I don’t have to risk anything, lift a finger, then of course it’s a good idea.
“a federal judge is ordering Virginia to reinstate individuals who have self-identified as noncitizens”
Same as above. There is no possible explanation except election fraud.
“• Appeals Court: Mississippi Law Allowing Ballots After Election Day Illegal (ET)
There’s no dealing with these guys, they need to be jailed, trialed, and hung. Yes, we can’t have this, because then it’s Election Week, Election Month, Election Year. Stfu. We’ll never know if the President is the real President because “Limitalism” there is no threshold, no borders, boundaries, or rulz, and we haven’t really gotten the State’s election count FULLY in, by January 2026.
But IF you do this instead of hanging them by the neck until dead, then they will just put all the Red votes in a truck and “Find” them the day after. LAWS DON’T FIX MORALITY. However, scaring the h—l out them does real wonders! Get them by the balls and their hearts and minds will follow! Criminals are weak and don’t have self-directed morality. They merely do a cost-benefit at this moment and act accordingly. If the penalty is basically zero – like for Banks over the last 30 years – then obviously it would be stupid NOT to commit the crime.
“Show me the incentives and I’ll show you the outcomes.”No, we cannot legally have Election Year. If nothing else, the Constitution says “Election Day”. The End.
“I think anybody that runs for president should take, they should give them a test,” Trump said.”
And as Constitution, above, Rogan immediately pointed out the test would be unconstitutional. However, they could “Voluntarily” take them, as who wouldn’t do so unless you were indeed incompetent? So it takes a meathead boxer now to tell Presidents and officials what the Constitution is? Well good, yeah, WE are the government, WE the People are the last word in what is Constitutional. They can’t do jack if we all act like this.
“• Bravo, WaPo: Ending Media Endorsements Could Help Restore Trust (Turley)
I guess. This isn’t actually a problem, as papers were all political for 200 years. You had the “Democrat” X, paper, “Toledo Democrat” or something. And the “Objectiveness” was a lie, as with Walter Cronkite, etc, very cleverly more refined hiding and presenting of facts. It might be better just to know we’re “Jacobin”, we’re “American Conservative”, But it requires them saying so, so the audience knows, and still
NOT LYING.
Is that too hard? Should I repeat that last part, I know it sounds complicated. If you LIE in a paper, generally that’s going to be a Libel offense because someone was materially disenfranchised. So personally I prefer objective papers, but that’s no wall against mischief. The Mischief gets worse because it’s sneaky. NPR.
““The biggest mistake I made, was I picked… a few people that I should not have picked..”
He needs to ask for advice on his picks. RFK and Musk are good for that.In a permanent bureaucracy, there’s no one you CAN pick. They all think alike, and they either are insiders, or they don’t know the job. Suppose you bring in a competent insider: then the LOWER insiders will stovepipe, stonewall, foot-drag, refuse, etc. Move down the next level, next thing, right to the Janitor. So EVERY employee, all 30 million of them, will do EVERYTHING, using your money, their paychecks, to fight and stop you. As we’re already seen. Only firing a stunning proportion of them and scaring the h—l out of the others will work. Thus, defund the government. They have no legal mandate anyway.
“• Trump, Former White House Staffers Reject John Kelly’s ‘Fascist’ Claims (ET)
How often do you beat your wife? Here we are, the Alt Media, wasting air talking about something that never happened. We are the ones putting “Trump” and “Hitler” in the same sentence for them. Don’t.
“• Boeing Could Offload Space Business – WSJ (RT)
Sounds reasonable for their situation. Can we offload all the other parts out of Monopoly status? Like spin back out Martin Marietta, Hughes, Douglas, etc until we have a competition ecosystem again? A: no. This article clearly demonstrates we may only sell one monopoly to ANOTHER monopoly, because: Monopoly. Monopoly = Capitalism, where we have no competition and no price discovery.
Adding a new car company or a new rocket company might make new cars and rockets that actually work and make the existing companies look embarrassed.
Zelensky Knows The Game Is Up (Shumov)
Point one: NATO membershipThe Plan is: THE UNITED STATES MOBILIZES, ATTACKS, AND KILLS RUSSIA, while we all watch. The end.
What do you mean you won’t do this plan? I wrote it right here on this paper.
“If the wind industry continues with its boats, noise, and vibrations, it will make the North Atlantic right whale extinct.”
As the environmentalists all knew already, but kept doing it anyway, chopping down mountains and causing forests of windmill blades to be created that cannot be disposed. Not a day goes by but an environmentalist isn’t lighting up an army of diesel double-wide, oversized trucks to port unrecyclable wind blades from 1,000 acre paved factories, to sites where the forests were leveled for windmills that last 12 years.
#Logic!
“I feel like they don’t have the knowledge of how of, like, how it works”
The little Jungle Children don’t know how to reed good and do other stuff gooder too. Notice she says “I FEEEEEEL” this is true. That’s directly saying she has no facts, hasn’t bothered, can’t be arsed, but it FEEELS truthy, so it must be so.
Yeah, I know, and I don’t know if what drives me crazy is that they’re so racist, so wrong, or that when you bring it up, they’re so shameless and unembarrassed about it.
“What sets Brianne Dressen apart”
Late in this clip she brings up a key point: Reagan’s Vaccine law is totally illegal. How? It was duly passed, etc. Well, as she says, it takes away your Constitutional rights, which cannot be done without an amendment. So it’s legal up to a point, but as soon as they refuse to allow you to speak, assemble, etc, it’s illegal. Which point is really close, and most of that law would be shut off. I think it’s illegal to begin with, but this gives a large, heavy wing.
“Protect whale play”Yes, by shutting down windmills, or changing them substantially.
Sargon as he’s online. Slow plodding stuff about the Pro-British, Pro-Patriot rally they had, where the counterprotestors were PAID to show up and try to make trouble. Picking only Antifa black block, faces covered ‘cuz, they gonna be so peaceful n stuff. So they’re calling the people who are Proud of Britain, British history, and Churchill, they are “Hitler”. Somehow this is even more Ironic than calling Putin Hitler, head of “Russia” (appropriate historical stand in for the Soviet Union) which beat probably more than 2/3 of Hitler, with every other nation adding up to 5% each.Anyway, I didn’t get the minute mark, but you’ll appreciate as a Brit he says, “All I want are ruling Lords that don’t actively hate us. Want us to be killed. Only think of us as their personal property to be preserved” etc. Of course he’s half-joking, but the point is THAT would be about twice as good as now for them. To MERELY go back to say, 1750 rules.
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Aspnaz, second from the left, boosting our morale here so we can fight to win out country back into goodness and law. Aw, thanks man! That’s so sweet. Nothing’s more motivating than that. People who won’t lift a finger, livin’ it up, telling everyone what to do. Gosh, you’re just like Trotsky.
October 27, 2024 at 11:09 am #172667Oroboros
ParticipantWhite Female Democrats explain how it’s harder for Black Americans to vote
It’s “Harder for black people to go online”
October 27, 2024 at 11:10 am #172668Oroboros
ParticipantOctober 27, 2024 at 11:11 am #172669Oroboros
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October 27, 2024 at 11:18 am #172673Oroboros
ParticipantPutting the Duh in Duh’merica
October 27, 2024 at 11:26 am #172674Oroboros
ParticipantHe can’t even get Ground Hog Day Right
October 27, 2024 at 11:57 am #172675Dr. D
ParticipantOnly one thing is certain: Everything the U.S. does is stupid, and the world situation is hopeless. Welp, I’m just going to give up and eat bon-bons on this couch.
October 27, 2024 at 12:14 pm #172679Oroboros
ParticipantOur best and brightest
Let me man-plain it for ya…..
October 27, 2024 at 12:14 pm #172680oxymoron
ParticipantIs Beyonce culturally appropriating Eva Vlaardingerbroek’s Danish hair?
October 27, 2024 at 12:15 pm #172681Oroboros
ParticipantOctober 27, 2024 at 12:20 pm #172682Oroboros
ParticipantDo sit around eating junk food, make it great again, sort of…..
Duh’merican “Can Do” know how
Where there’s a will there’s a way…………October 27, 2024 at 12:23 pm #172683Oroboros
ParticipantThat’s a school clock above by the way.
Remember them?
Sage Advice for a nation to thrive by this Halloween
October 27, 2024 at 12:26 pm #172684Oroboros
ParticipantThe Whole World is Watching the Clown Show Clusterfuck known as the Empire of Lies.
The-whole-world-is-laughing
It’s actually on the Nation’s Calendar
October 27, 2024 at 12:31 pm #172685Red
Participant“• Boeing Could Offload Space Business – WSJ (RT)
“Sounds reasonable for their situation. Can we offload all the other parts out of Monopoly status? Like spin back out Martin Marietta, Hughes, Douglas, etc until we have a competition ecosystem again? A: no. This article clearly demonstrates we may only sell one monopoly to ANOTHER monopoly, because: Monopoly. Monopoly = Capitalism, where we have no competition and no price discovery.”
Dr D it looks more like setting up for the lawsuits to me. You know like Union Carbide, sell of the profitable parts, abscond with the profit and let the bankruptcy court give the little remaining value mostly to the legal system. Rinse, repeat.
October 27, 2024 at 12:44 pm #172686October 27, 2024 at 1:53 pm #172689zerosum
Participantrhetoric
the study of the technique of using language effectivelythe art of using speech to persuade, influence, or please.
Typical hate speech involves epithets and slurs, statements that promote malicious stereotypes, and speech intended to incite hatred or violence against a group or person …
“This is the kind of inflammatory poison that divides our nation and inspires assassins.”
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https://jameshowardkunstler.substack.com/p/fever-dream
Fever Dream
“The American ‘Left’ is fully exposed now as a demented, vicious, abusive animal of traumatizing narcissism.” — Celia FarberJames Howard Kunstler
Oct 25, 2024
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https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/elon-musk-tucker-carlson-and-rfk-jr-speak-trump-rally-madison
Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson and RFK Jr. to speak at Trump rally at Madison Square Garden in NYC
Trump is planning to hold the rally in New York City on Sunday at 5 p.m. ET.Other speakers include former Democratic Hawaii Congresswoman turned Republican Tulsi Gabbard, Rep. Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y., Rep. Byron Donalds, R-Fla. and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
The total list provided by the campaign includes 30 names.—————
• Kamala Rally Descends Into Complete Chaos As Beyoncé Doesn’t Perform (MN)30,000 people showed up and waited in line because they believed it was a Beyoncé concert. A million people tried to get tickets because they thought it was a Beyoncé concert.
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• Iranian Media & Pundits Mock ‘Nothingburger’ Israeli Attack (ZH)———-
I believe the Atlantic Council is a root instigator behind every globalist scheme to trigger a larger war between the East and the West.The Atlantic Council Has Big Plans For A War Between The US And Iran
The Atlantic Council Has Big Plans For A War Between The US And Iran
October 26, 2024
By Brandon Smith
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The instigator
IMF-World Bank Week at the Atlantic Council
WASHINGTON, DC
OCTOBER 21–27The Atlantic Council will host a series of special events with finance ministers and central bank governors from around the globe during the 2024 Annual Meetings of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF).
READ MORE …
———–October 27, 2024 at 3:18 pm #172690userzeroid
ParticipantFurther to my recent comment about mossad 5th gen psy ops.
It is not essential for said agents to be based in tel Aviv. It is more than likely the case, that one of said brigades are based in Perth, where the weather is nice and sunny but it is less dangerous for agents to carry out their Intel comms in fear of being distracted by bombs and missile attacks. They can then throw another shrimp on the barby and drink some castlemain xxxx in peace, knowing that their bank account is being filled by the five eyes Intel community coffers.
That’s what I’d do, being human. Although I am less sure of the pedigree of such people.
October 27, 2024 at 3:37 pm #172691those darned kids
Participantthe democrat party has become
THE TROJAN DONKEY for the globalist agenda!!!!!!!!!!,
so………
we need to
switch to the
republican party,
THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha,
ha.
October 27, 2024 at 3:39 pm #172692those darned kids
Participanthahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha,
ha. ~tdk
October 27, 2024 at 4:18 pm #172693jb-hb
ParticipantIn a permanent bureaucracy, there’s no one you CAN pick. They all think alike, and they either are insiders, or they don’t know the job. Suppose you bring in a competent insider: then the LOWER insiders will stovepipe, stonewall, foot-drag, refuse, etc. Move down the next level, next thing, right to the Janitor. So EVERY employee, all 30 million of them, will do EVERYTHING, using your money, their paychecks, to fight and stop you. As we’re already seen. Only firing a stunning proportion of them and scaring the h—l out of the others will work.
I worked in corporate bureaucracy for decades. I found that having contact with the people you serve keeps you in touch with reality. They ask you questions you have to answer – questions to do with the actual issue at hand. Or they don’t want to get off the phone until you’ve successfully helped them, stuff like that.
I’ve had quite a few good supervisors who were an honor to work for. I’ve also had supervisors I would say are Lawful Evil – horrible people, but not disconnected from reality. Still making mostly right decisions related to the job.
And then there are the others. A weird thing happens with a lot of them. You come to them for a decision (because you’re required to) or you have to interface with them to get something done because they are empowered to do it and you are not. Basically, there’s a gating factor in your job and the gate is a supervisor. Fine.
I’ve had quite a few interactions in which I explain the situation and they tell me to do the obviously wrong thing. Something that will cause a major meltdown on the call. To no one’s benefit. Often I can see this situation coming – they seem to cross their eyes slightly, look at your left ear instead of your face, and take on either a slightly sing song or monotone vocal tone.
First I pitch a good solution to them, then I ask questions – why this other course of action? – then I caution them about its effects. If they insist – and often they do – then I warn them “okay, I will do my absolute best to sell them on this course of action, but I predict this will blow up on me. Please be ready to field the resulting escalation request/demand. I will do everything I can to contain and prevent that.”
I get back on the phone, try to put a good face on absolute bullshit (maybe while trying to steer or hint the customer into calling back to get someone else or taking a moment to think of their own course of action – I am trapped by my consult with this supervisor – I cannot directly contradict them and you NEVER openly tell someone to end the call) But often they cannot take the hint and demand to speak to someone above them.
With a knowing look on my face, I swivel my chair around to face the supervisor’s desk, start getting up…. the desk is empty. I look outside the window at the parking lot – their CAR is gone. There’s 4 hours left in their shift.
They fucking immediately took unscheduled PTO to leave me stuck with this call, NOT field the escalation to explain and support their own decision, and leave some other better supervisor to deal with their shit. Fucking hell.
This has happened MANY times in the call center over the course of 2 decades. It’s kind of incomprehensible. If you don’t care so much that you want to leave the building, why not just rubber-stamp my own solution? You can relax, go on autopilot AND save up your PTO for something more worthwhile than the ultimate call center sin – CALL AVOIDANCE.
These are always NOT part of some larger top-down initiative. There are no written or spoken orders. It is always sort of random… “creative” in nature, a one-off. I’ve found if I belabor the point at all, I get told this is the way to ALWAYS do it as opposed to this one time. And then, over the course of time, I discover this is an unwritten “policy” for JUST me. No other team members are aware of it, have been coached on it, etc. THIS is the kind of thing that happens in a bureaucracy!
For customer facing people in the bureaucracy, it is easier and less stressful when our actions are aligned with our customer and the company’s interests. It becomes super stressful when orders, policies, or systems get in the way of that because we cannot just easily flow through each call and through our day. Often, we will describe impediments to our job as creating large amounts of undue stress. Pff. Sneer. Peasants are SUPPOSED to be miserable. Can’t hear your technical suggestion to easily fix a thing because I’ve decided to only hear that you’re being lazy while stupid.
One concrete example – in Tier II Business Tech, I was troubleshooting a problem, got to the end of the process doc, and it was still happening. The remaining step was… Transfer to Tier II Bus Tech.
I’d often done this troubleshooting in my previous dept and wondered what magical next things Tier 2 did and why couldn’t I?
This supervisor was widely hailed as “Our best, most technically knowledgeable supervisor here in Business Tech!” She often thought of new metrics and requirements for her underlings that were NOT DELIVERABLES to her manager. Extra shit she could wave in front of everyone “I am the best sup at x thing, y thing!” …that no one ever asked her for. And was stupid.
Anyway, it was a long document with about 20 different problem scenarios for a particular product we were supporting. She told me to “continue following the troubleshooting document” by running through the next process down on the sheet which had NOTHING TO DO with the prior one that was relevant.
I pointed out that it was different, pointed out that it was separated by a divider, that it had its own TITLE and clearly spoke to completely different subject matter, so she just continually ordered me, repeating “It’s the NEXT THING.” (alphabetically…)
I got off her team as quickly as I could (took a good 6 months) but I ended up working in the same dept as her for a decade. She had an inability to recognize what was relevant and what was not. What was important, what was not. What was worth a whole bunch of energy, time, and stress and what was not. She always seemed to be VERY busy, but I never noticed any deep technical knowledge.
She should have been placed in a trebuchet and launched at the moon, not put in charge of other humans and had the fate of 1,000’s of customers pass through her hands.
There’s usually a contingent – larger than you would think in a crappy call center – that wants to do a good job. You would THINK people in a call center are cannon fodder, the dregs of society, but actually there are quite a number of decent, reasonably intelligent people. (a neighbor of mine was getting abuse from a customer who started demanding “You will address me as DOCTOR!” …having a PhD himself, my neighbor who said, “Very well. You may also address ME as doctor….”) I could not understand what the customer said next, but I heard it coming out of his headset from where I sat, heavily distorted from the customer overdriving the speaker.
Aside from the actively good people, the majority would STILL like to do a good job. Because they have to deal with the customers. Being able to get through the systems without getting stuck or getting error messages, able to get customers to resolutions and OFF THE PHONE are desirable. It’s nice to have a smooth, problem-free day. Even the totally amoral folks PREFER this.
Then there are the total fuckups. Who actively fuck things up. New guy we had on the team either typed in wrong info or wasn’t listening properly. Was getting “confused” because the account he was looking at didn’t seem to be the one in question. Store wanted to perform an upgrade – move the # over to a new phone, enter the customer into a new 2yr contract.
So he turns to us, says nothing matches “So ah, go ahead and do the change on this, RIGHT?” like really REALLY pushing for us to say yes just do things to whatever is in front of you. Like it really MATTERED to him that he do THIS exactly THIS. No of course we (fellow inbound call reps) cussed him out, asked him wtf he was smoking.
There’s a contingent of these at the lowest level of every bureaucracy. Why they actively fuck things up I do not know. Sometimes they connect with the awful supervisors and become their pets. I’ve never been able to make sense of it.
There ARE actual cannon fodder humans that come on board with very limited capabilities, but I find if they have basic goodwill and can identify when they need help, even those guys are okay.
Had the VP of Customer Care come in for a skip-level. 8 randomly chosen reps in a room with the VP.
Me, I am too stupid to not just blurt out the truth, so I end up telling her about a bunch of broken things, how long they have been going on, how we try to fix them but generally nobody listens, point out that the company would benefit from fixes not just customers.
VP registers concern, horror. A month and a half later, a 3rd party contractor has been brought in to set up a whole new parallel system of feedback. (why not just monitor and make the existing feedback system work?) The number of team meetings is doubled, there’s a format adopted for these meetings to get feedback from reps, there’s training on how to DO the meetings.
Within 2 or 3 months it has totally mutated.
It turns into – we have a specific answer we want you to give us, but instead of telling you what we want, we want you to come to it yourselves. Talk amongst yourselves until you say to us what we want you to say. Your supervisor will try to hint, but is not allowed to say. 30-60 minute sessions of “No, that’s not it, try again”
The fucking middle managers had completely disabled our existing feedback system. The VP of Care tried to create a parallel uncorrupted feedback system, and those fuckers turned it into an even WORSE way to pipe bullshit down to us. In addition to ordering us through process documents, they wanted their ideas to spontaneously come out of our mouths.
No no, you don’t get it, it has to be REAL you have to do it SPONTANEOUSLY, of your own “free will.” SAY IT. I want to see my bullshit spewing from your mouth balletically without my having to tell you what it is.
I think if you simply grabbed from the top 70% of customer care workers in call centers and slotted them into the govt bureaucracy, you’d see a VAST improvement in government. They’re just used to making things happen AND used to doing it despite massive amounts of interference and bullshit.
October 27, 2024 at 4:19 pm #172694Oroboros
Participant“Ma’am, the Rogan x Trump podcast is over 3 hours long”
(sound of a groan then a long muffled fart)
October 27, 2024 at 4:21 pm #172695Oroboros
ParticipantOctober 27, 2024 at 4:37 pm #172696D Benton Smith
ParticipantHave others around here noticed a peculiar little thing about @aspnaz that is just so friggin obvious that it might easily go undiscerned within the overwhelming volume of his other lies. It is the WAY that he lies. He lies like a Democrat. He lies like Kamala Harris. He lies like only a dyed-in-the-wool PROFESSIONAL liar lies.
He just flat out says the exact opposite of the truth, over and over and over again, ad nauseum, until you’re almost ready to agree with it just to make it STOP. He tells absolute falsehoods straight up, without rationale, support or explanation, as though expecting people to assume that there must be some explanation or justification for it. But NOPE, there isn’t. His bullshit is just pure invention of wild stuff that just ain’t true.Pure and unremediated LIE. Take it or leave it.
His technique reminds me of how Karl Marx and Joseph Goebbels advised how to do it, which makes a certain amount of sense in his case. He’s trying to get people to believe (or at least give PARTIAL credence to) things that are false, and to do that he has to LIE, and so he gets right down to business.
For example, I have explained in detail and at length that I utterly and absolutely CONDEMN the vile evil and inhuman genocide being perpetrated by Zionist Israel and it’s equally vile supporters (the United States government and it’s Zionist Blob puppet masters in particular). But @aspnaz pointedly chooses to ignore my words as though I had never written them, and accuses me of siding with the Satanic Zionists bastards who are murdering women and children in Gaza.
That’s interesting.
Why would @aspnaz do that? You may have also noticed that he is doing the same thing to Dr D.
That’s interesting, too, and leads to the same probing question of why in the world would anyone want to do that either?
I have a hunch as to why. Can anyone guess that that might be?
Maybe something along the lines of @aspnaz being a paid Commie agent who wants to kill a lot of people. Hmmmm. Could be.
October 27, 2024 at 4:43 pm #172697jb-hb
ParticipantWell, yeah. Anytime someone won’t have a discussion on a discussion forum but DOES generate a lot of text, that’s a red flag.
Sometimes literally a red flag ha
Dr D being the most obvious – at the very least, there’s nuance to his stance on Israel? It is obvious from reading him, it is not one-dimensional?
So if I wanted to take a run at D, I’d grab some actual idea he expressed and work on that? Ask for clarification? Say how I understand it and counter-argue, wait to see if he clarifies it because I got him wrong or comes back to give some supporting points?
Like, does he have an idea you want to prove wrong or do you just want to fling mud at his character generally?
You know what I heard about her? I heard she’s a slut. …why so Mean Girlz? Make your argument.
October 27, 2024 at 4:45 pm #172698Noirette
ParticipantA *caricatural* description, from far away from the US.
Two tribes are facing off against each other, which has been engineered by the US PTB and US ‘traditions’, rules and regs. (e.g. > no valid 3rd party candidates for the Prez. can ever emerge.) Sure, there are many who recognize the idiocy, many ‘Independents’, many who are checked out, and so on.
Group One Harris is composed of the lower-to-upper middle class who are divorced from production, they are in the ‘professions’ — law, med, health, media, culture, educ. Unis, arts, internet Cos. Big Corps, etc. – or hope to join so… They don’t collect rubbish, sweep the streets, lay bricks, run buses, check meters, work in an arms factory (what no ?) etc. etc.
The split is of course muddy, what about a nurse who sees real suffering and knows what causes it?
This group is steered by the \inclusion/ propaganda, which admittedly has had tremendous effect, LGTB ppl, immigrants, ppl from ‘other cultures’, ‘fatties’, the ‘disabled’ and more, are seduced by ‘equality’ and you be different you do you we love you and now you vote for us stuff.
Setting aside immigration (a world-wide complex issue, Kalergi plan, exploitation of cheap labor, and more..) and other, many of the Group One adherents don’t perceive that they have been granted a kind of superiority status by ersatz moves.
Some of the privileges of the Top Upper Classes (1850 or so > Europe) which guaranteed that their members could do as they wanted sexually, but the lower classes would be condemned, sometimes even put to death for sodomy, could be abrogated, as who cares what the deplorables do. That mech. of control could be given up with NO LOSS. And could gather votes! (About 4 – 15% depending on place, etc.)
So, the whole storm around that aspect of private behavior was created to have ppl concentrate on non-economic issues, feel ‘empowered’ etc. and adhere to One Party.
Plus, all big Ad Agencies, their clients, wanted, as usual, to segment the population so as to be able to target one or another group with ‘personalised ads’ in an open manner, with male homosexuals (often ‘richer’ and childless) being the first group on the radar.
Group Two Trump…I have run out of steam for now …but you all get the picture.
October 27, 2024 at 4:46 pm #172699John Day
ParticipantFr. Vigano Warns Catholics Not to Vote for “Infernal Monster” Harris
Fr. Vigano Warns Catholics Not to Vote for “Infernal Monster” Harris
“The choice is between a conservative President, who is paying with his very life for his fight against the deep state, and an infernal monster who obeys Satan,” Vigano wrote. “For a Catholic, there can be no question: voting for Kamala Harris is morally inadmissible and constitutes a very grave sin. Nor is it morally possible to abstain because in this war, declaring oneself neutral means allying oneself with the enemy.”
Voting for Trump “means firmly distancing ourselves from an anti-Catholic, anti-Christian, and anti-human vision of society. It means stopping those who want to create a hellish dystopia that is even worse than the one announced by George Orwell.”
Vigano, the former archbishop of Ulpiana, was excommunicated for opposing the Pope’s leftist changes to the church. Mostly, the Pope did it to make his voice less important.October 27, 2024 at 4:54 pm #172700citizenx
ParticipantAttentions whores unite !
““It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.” —George Orwell, 1984
Why are you making George Orwell right???
Btw, I woke up with the knowledge that the war is over. We won on 25 October, 2024. Immediately ran into a psychic who said the same thing. Take it for what it’s worth, I don’t see anything out there, election, Kamala missing, interview, etc. But wars don’t turn on and off like a movie, on and off like a light. Even after steps on steps: the war was won, then we sit down and sign, then we clean up people who haven’t heard in Germany. Then we carefully test and demobilize, how many months until we go home? Oh it was many years, really. You could say we’re still there. So on what day was the war over? VE Day? We picked one, and you should pick one, but in the thick of it it’s hard to see and be sure. So.
“Rogan-Trump podcast”
I thought it was boring. Engaging, but boring, as nothing was said. Confirms to me that Dum-Dum is a mascot and they don’t tell anything about the big plans. Which is what you should do, of course, but they’re all like “Trump”!!! HE is the one!”… no he is not. If he vanishes, we’ll move on immediately and continue to restore our country with some other narrative and front man.
Like so many things, I guess this matters to people, it really means something to them, and I respect that, their excitement causes motivation, is contagious, shows the momentum. But means nothing to me and doesn’t change anything on the logical plane.
Maybe it’s something completely different: this is the VE Day we point to as the end of the old media. CNN, CBS, all sidelined, pointless. Elections and debates are run on eg Rogan now. And that is almost certainly true, but again, that comes in slowly like a tide, and we pick one arbitrary wave as the top point.
“• Over 80% of Americans Support Voter ID and Proof of Citizenship Laws (Turley)
This was said in Rogan, but there’s no new information. No one can come up with any reason you wouldn’t have ID for voting. Not a good reason, not a bad reason, no reason, and when 80% of the country are in agreement on it.
So essentially everybody knows it and we all ignore it. But since voting is mainly how you wouldn’t ignore it, it’s pretty difficult to remove. I’m sure people on the beaches all around the world will be happy to advise me on who we should shoot to straighten this right out using violence and Civil War. As long as it’s somebody else’s problem, I’ll advise all day. If I don’t have to risk anything, lift a finger, then of course it’s a good idea.
“a federal judge is ordering Virginia to reinstate individuals who have self-identified as noncitizens”
Same as above. There is no possible explanation except election fraud.
“• Appeals Court: Mississippi Law Allowing Ballots After Election Day Illegal (ET)
There’s no dealing with these guys, they need to be jailed, trialed, and hung. Yes, we can’t have this, because then it’s Election Week, Election Month, Election Year. Stfu. We’ll never know if the President is the real President because “Limitalism” there is no threshold, no borders, boundaries, or rulz, and we haven’t really gotten the State’s election count FULLY in, by January 2026.
But IF you do this instead of hanging them by the neck until dead, then they will just put all the Red votes in a truck and “Find” them the day after. LAWS DON’T FIX MORALITY. However, scaring the h—l out them does real wonders! Get them by the balls and their hearts and minds will follow! Criminals are weak and don’t have self-directed morality. They merely do a cost-benefit at this moment and act accordingly. If the penalty is basically zero – like for Banks over the last 30 years – then obviously it would be stupid NOT to commit the crime.
“Show me the incentives and I’ll show you the outcomes.”
No, we cannot legally have Election Year. If nothing else, the Constitution says “Election Day”. The End.
“I think anybody that runs for president should take, they should give them a test,” Trump said.”
And as Constitution, above, Rogan immediately pointed out the test would be unconstitutional. However, they could “Voluntarily” take them, as who wouldn’t do so unless you were indeed incompetent? So it takes a meathead boxer now to tell Presidents and officials what the Constitution is? Well good, yeah, WE are the government, WE the People are the last word in what is Constitutional. They can’t do jack if we all act like this.
“• Bravo, WaPo: Ending Media Endorsements Could Help Restore Trust (Turley)
I guess. This isn’t actually a problem, as papers were all political for 200 years. You had the “Democrat” X, paper, “Toledo Democrat” or something. And the “Objectiveness” was a lie, as with Walter Cronkite, etc, very cleverly more refined hiding and presenting of facts. It might be better just to know we’re “Jacobin”, we’re “American Conservative”, But it requires them saying so, so the audience knows, and still
NOT LYING.
Is that too hard? Should I repeat that last part, I know it sounds complicated. If you LIE in a paper, generally that’s going to be a Libel offense because someone was materially disenfranchised. So personally I prefer objective papers, but that’s no wall against mischief. The Mischief gets worse because it’s sneaky. NPR.
““The biggest mistake I made, was I picked… a few people that I should not have picked..”
He needs to ask for advice on his picks. RFK and Musk are good for that.In a permanent bureaucracy, there’s no one you CAN pick. They all think alike, and they either are insiders, or they don’t know the job. Suppose you bring in a competent insider: then the LOWER insiders will stovepipe, stonewall, foot-drag, refuse, etc. Move down the next level, next thing, right to the Janitor. So EVERY employee, all 30 million of them, will do EVERYTHING, using your money, their paychecks, to fight and stop you. As we’re already seen. Only firing a stunning proportion of them and scaring the h—l out of the others will work. Thus, defund the government. They have no legal mandate anyway.
“• Trump, Former White House Staffers Reject John Kelly’s ‘Fascist’ Claims (ET)
How often do you beat your wife? Here we are, the Alt Media, wasting air talking about something that never happened. We are the ones putting “Trump” and “Hitler” in the same sentence for them. Don’t.
“• Boeing Could Offload Space Business – WSJ (RT)
Sounds reasonable for their situation. Can we offload all the other parts out of Monopoly status? Like spin back out Martin Marietta, Hughes, Douglas, etc until we have a competition ecosystem again? A: no. This article clearly demonstrates we may only sell one monopoly to ANOTHER monopoly, because: Monopoly. Monopoly = Capitalism, where we have no competition and no price discovery.
Adding a new car company or a new rocket company might make new cars and rockets that actually work and make the existing companies look embarrassed.
Zelensky Knows The Game Is Up (Shumov)
Point one: NATO membershipThe Plan is: THE UNITED STATES MOBILIZES, ATTACKS, AND KILLS RUSSIA, while we all watch. The end.
What do you mean you won’t do this plan? I wrote it right here on this paper.
“If the wind industry continues with its boats, noise, and vibrations, it will make the North Atlantic right whale extinct.”
As the environmentalists all knew already, but kept doing it anyway, chopping down mountains and causing forests of windmill blades to be created that cannot be disposed. Not a day goes by but an environmentalist isn’t lighting up an army of diesel double-wide, oversized trucks to port unrecyclable wind blades from 1,000 acre paved factories, to sites where the forests were leveled for windmills that last 12 years.
#Logic!
“I feel like they don’t have the knowledge of how of, like, how it works”
The little Jungle Children don’t know how to reed good and do other stuff gooder too. Notice she says “I FEEEEEEL” this is true. That’s directly saying she has no facts, hasn’t bothered, can’t be arsed, but it FEEELS truthy, so it must be so.
Yeah, I know, and I don’t know if what drives me crazy is that they’re so racist, so wrong, or that when you bring it up, they’re so shameless and unembarrassed about it.
“What sets Brianne Dressen apart”
Late in this clip she brings up a key point: Reagan’s Vaccine law is totally illegal. How? It was duly passed, etc. Well, as she says, it takes away your Constitutional rights, which cannot be done without an amendment. So it’s legal up to a point, but as soon as they refuse to allow you to speak, assemble, etc, it’s illegal. Which point is really close, and most of that law would be shut off. I think it’s illegal to begin with, but this gives a large, heavy wing.
“Protect whale play”
Yes, by shutting down windmills, or changing them substantially.
Sargon as he’s online. Slow plodding stuff about the Pro-British, Pro-Patriot rally they had, where the counterprotestors were PAID to show up and try to make trouble. Picking only Antifa black block, faces covered ‘cuz, they gonna be so peaceful n stuff. So they’re calling the people who are Proud of Britain, British history, and Churchill, they are “Hitler”. Somehow this is even more Ironic than calling Putin Hitler, head of “Russia” (appropriate historical stand in for the Soviet Union) which beat probably more than 2/3 of Hitler, with every other nation adding up to 5% each.
Anyway, I didn’t get the minute mark, but you’ll appreciate as a Brit he says, “All I want are ruling Lords that don’t actively hate us. Want us to be killed. Only think of us as their personal property to be preserved” etc. Of course he’s half-joking, but the point is THAT would be about twice as good as now for them. To MERELY go back to say, 1750 rules.
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Aspnaz, second from the left, boosting our morale here so we can fight to win out country back into goodness and law. Aw, thanks man! That’s so sweet. Nothing’s more motivating than that. People who won’t lift a finger, livin’ it up, telling everyone what to do. Gosh, you’re just like Trotsky.
October 27, 2024 at 5:06 pm #172703John Day
Participant@jb-hb: I read your tales-of-call-center-hierarchy.
I’m sorry.
I do not have systemic solution to suggest.October 27, 2024 at 5:12 pm #172704John Day
ParticipantWeird punji pit trap…
Small Business Owners are branded “terrorists” by Federal GovernmentSmall Business Owners are branded “terrorists” by Federal Government
In just over 2 months every small business owner in America is required to be registered with the Federal Government’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN). The Biden/Harris administration rolled out this unconstitutional law, known as the Corporate Transparency Act (CTA), on January 1st, 2024.
The CTA requires all small business owners in the United States, with revenue under 5 million and less than 20 full time employees to self-report to FinCEN, housed under the Department of Treasury.
According FinCEN’s website:
“FinCEN is a bureau of the U.S. Department of the Treasury. The Director of FinCEN is appointed by the Secretary of the Treasury and reports to the Treasury Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence. “
Your failure to report into this terrorism and intelligence database by January 1st, 2025 means that you will be subjected to fines of $591 per day and you could face a penalty of up to 2 years in federal prison. Small business owners in the United States could be jailed for up to 2 years for committing no crime, other than failing to turn over their personal, protected data to Big Brother.
October 27, 2024 at 5:21 pm #172705jb-hb
ParticipantRedlettermedia goes over all the garbage being dumped on us as “entertainment”
One interesting thing they point out as an aside – there’s more “content” than there is people to watch it. The entire populace simply does not have enough time to watch the shows.
And there’s so many, nobody can even notice if there is a good one. And the streaming services don’t even promote them! You finally find something you like but it is already cancelled. Or you’re confronted with wading through 1000 hours of garbage to get 8 hours that you enjoy.
And you have to spend $100’s a MONTH just to have access to watch if a good show pops up. Fucking CHIK-FIL-A is starting a streaming service!!!!
Nevermind. I switched to watching free black & white movies on Youtube and it is awesome – well-written, likeable characters, different plots EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Not only that, you would not believe how many 30’s-50’s movies have women doing all kinds of professional or adventurous things with NOBODY having a freakout “Oh Emm Gee how did you get out of your manacles in the kitchen!!! WHERE DID YOU FIND SHOES???!?!!?” gobsmacked everyday citizen faints, brought to, sees the woman in a suit again, faints again….
All these women are going about doing everything under the sun freely. For the Halloween season I’ve been watching old horror films. In one of them, a college girl decides to go to a spooky town with a scary history (full of, sort of vampire-satanists, it turns out) The 2 most significant male authorities in her life advise her very VERY strongly not to go. She goes anyway.
They have a scene where both of them are sitting in a living room together after she’s gone. “well, we did everything we could to convince her, but I guess there’ just nothing else we could do. Because she’s decided.”
Decided!?!??!!! What was it like in the movie theatre when they reached this scene back in black & white movie times? Was this like that SNL skit where they tell Chris Farley they switched out the normal coffee for Folgers Crystals? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdQKVDUBu2g Total berserk mayhem? Did people lose their minds at the inconceivability of it? no, no. Ma’am you can’t just DO that. Not only are you held in physical bondage by Patriarchy, but there’s a cultural matrix pod you are trapped in that robs you mentally of all agency due to your internalized misogyny! noooo. you cannot just DO things you want, we have to do a struggle session, shave the sides of your head, there’s a whole process here you are skipping!
So anyway, it’s great seeing witty repartee between the sexes with both sides holding their own and women going around freely doing anything they want, sometimes being the hero or the smart one, without being the least bit “strong” I never, ever encounter “strong” women in black and white films, they just go around being awesome. Occasionally, they are the deliciously, unmitigatedly evil villain, with no backstory that makes them ackshully good.
But back to the redlettermedia tsunami of unwatchable content – both in volume and quality
Normal screenwriters CANNOT GET WORK. (real) Animators are working at 7-11 trying to get by instead of drawing for a living. Fantasy literature has gotten to the point where even a totally obsequious simping blue-square white male cannot get a publishing contract – at all.
It’s astonishing how MUCH is being pumped out at the same time that all the competent people are totally frozen out of the business. So many different levels to try to understand. Is AI doing all the work? Is ALL media just money laundering now? Books, TV, Movies, Comic Books, Music, EVERYTHING? Is it all funneling to Ukraine? Kamela’s campaign?!?
If we don’t have the hours to watch their content, where are the man-hours coming from to MAKE it? Sheer logistics boggle the mind.
the weaponized-autistic redlettermedia fans list of dozens of ADDITIONAL shows redlettermedia forgot about in the comments.
I think these things are significant because it is likely that whatever dynamic this is, it does NOT just pervade entertainment and media, but has saturated other industries – it’s just that media is getting the third-stringers who cannot do the same things as smoothly and competently, nor are their efforts considered to be critical, so there is far less secrecy. Same dynamics, more observable.
October 27, 2024 at 5:29 pm #172706jb-hb
Participant@jb-hb: I read your tales-of-call-center-hierarchy.
I’m sorry.
I do not have systemic solution to suggest.Thank you kindly. I didn’t post my tales so much for sympathy or solutions, but oddly enough, as a kind of reassurance to others.
People think of bureaucracies as resistant evil blobs – but there are decent people within them – nothing would run without them hashtag-actually-resisting!
And maybe a little sympathy for the middle managers – surely the shitty times stand out from OTHER times, else I could notice no difference. So somewhere in the bowels of the corporation, reasonably-competent middle managers were doing something right or at least had the sense to leave things alone.
…also that the problems that arise within a bureaucracy CAN be somewhat different than imagined.
October 27, 2024 at 5:48 pm #172707zerosum
Participantjb-hb
Have you experienced what happens when two people have the same work philosophy.“Don’t work hard, work smart, let someone else do the work.”
October 27, 2024 at 6:37 pm #172708zerosum
Participant
‘Evacuate Immediately’ – Resistance Roundup – Day 386
October 26, 2024
Hezbollah is now in charge of the course of the fighting, making it difficult for Israel to achieve any tactical, let alone strategic victories in Lebanon.
The Israeli army death toll in Lebanon continues to rise. Earlier this evening, Israeli media, citing army sources, said that seven of its soldiers were killed in battles with Hezbollah in South Lebanon.Media reports also said that 21 soldiers were wounded, some of them seriously.
Earlier in the day, the Israeli army said that 61 of its soldiers had been wounded in South Lebanon battles over the course of 24 hours.
The above numbers suggest that Hezbollah is now in charge of the course of the fighting, making it difficult for Israel to achieve any tactical, let alone strategic victories in Lebanon.
For its part, Hezbollah said that it had attacked strategic targets inside Israel.
“The fighters of the Islamic Resistance at 11:30 AM on Saturday 26-10-2024, launched an aerial attack with a squadron of attack drones targeting the Tel Nof airbase south of Tel Aviv, hitting their targets with precision,” Hezbollah said in one of many statements issued today.
Later in the evening, Hezbollah released a video calling on Israelis living in 25 settlements in the northern parts of the country to evacuate.
In its video statement, communicated in Hebrew, Hezbollah said that the settlements have turned into a place of deployment and support for Israeli military occupation forces that are attacking Lebanon.
This makes these settlements “legitimate military targets for the air and missile forces of the Islamic resistance,” therefore, all of their inhabitants must “Evacuate immediately.”
Below are the latest statements by the two main Resistance forces in Gaza, and the Lebanese Resistance Movement Hezbollah.
The statements were communicated via their Telegram channels and are published here in their original form.
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October 27, 2024 at 6:57 pm #172709zerosum
ParticipantWas this what happened?
How Israel Strikes Iran’s Military Targets? #israel #iran
2,177,394 views Oct 26, 2024
Israel launched nearly 80 or more aircraft Including in an operation code-named “Days of Repentance At Around 2 in the Morning.
The routes may seem straightforward, they involved complex planning, including calculations for air refueling and coordinating attack aircraft to pass through Jordan, Syria, and Iraq.
They also neutralized potential air defense threats in Syria and Iraq to ensure a safe return in case they were targeted.
Israel’s strategy was to attack Iran in three waves.
The first wave targeted surface air to air sites, radar installations, and Iran’s air defense headquarters in Tehran, Ilam, and Khuzestan.
The second wave focused on destroying ballistic missiles, and finally, the third wave targeted military manufacturing industries.
To avoid Iranian air defenses, they used the “Rocks” missiles, which allowed them to strike from positions closer to enemy targets without requiring jets to penetrate deep into Iranian territory.
Surprisingly, the Iranian Bavar 373 air defense system performed better than expected. More details all in the video ahead.
October 27, 2024 at 7:32 pm #172710jb-hb
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