We’ve Let The Clowns Come Way Too Far
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January 21, 2015 at 11:16 pm #18545Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
Harris&Ewing Goodyear Blimp at Washington Air Post ,DC 1938 In yesterday’s State of the Union, Obama said The ‘Shadow Of Crisis Has Passed’, and the o
[See the full post at: We’ve Let The Clowns Come Way Too Far]January 22, 2015 at 12:02 am #18546TulsatimeParticipantPretend money spent on pretended obligations, and they pretend that, somehow, this will casue real people, with real limitations and debts, to spnd more of what they have been getting less of, for the last generation. If any real money changes hands in QE, it is from public pockets to private pockets that are already full. There is no rational path that will cause consumer stimulation from any central bank actions, yet that is what they claim to be after in the long run. A stimulus to the economy, delivered to the business sector, that depends on consumer spending, that is impoverished by central back actions. It is social suicide, or murder, take your pick.
January 22, 2015 at 12:22 am #18547Golden OxenParticipantDraghi was then vice chairman and managing director of Goldman Suchs International and a member of the firm-wide management committee (2002–2005).
One need go no further to realize how helpful the plan will be for Europe and it’s citizens.
Sounds like quite a party starting up for the folks from New York that do God’s Work. About a trillion Euros worth of goodies to front run and skim every month.
January 22, 2015 at 1:03 am #18550₿oogalooParticipantWith regard to the “50% of Americans receiving some kind of government benefit” — this ris eally the key to the master plan. If not for those government benefits, the situation could potentially become very volatile and get out of hand. Imagine if hungry formerly middle class people actually started marching in the streets and demanding reforms! Imagine how terrifying that would be for the ruling elite! The government benefits are designed to suppress all that. Sure conservatives hate them in theory and rail against them, but if push comes to shove, they prefer government social programs to social upheaval and revolution. They will talk about eliminating these programs, but the talk is just that — talk. They may scale them back a little bit or trim them at the margins, but these government programs are now the key to maintaining order and a clueless/dependent populace.
January 22, 2015 at 2:13 am #18552Chris MParticipantBoogaloo,
Bread, beer, and circuses, huh?
So sinister, it actually works.
January 22, 2015 at 5:10 am #18553jonabarkParticipantFor those of us with friends who like Obama and believe the economic news, where can we look for an effective counter to his numbers and spin? Who most effectively takes apart these claims?
As you say,both major political sides like the basic story and seem to have some agreement on the numbers. Is the key counter-argument about the unsustainability of ever increasing debt, or more to do with how the money gets distributed/grabbed, set against the instability of the food, , ecological problems, war, banking and energy supply?
My problem is that the message I hear from automatic earth is hard to translate with clarity to others.January 22, 2015 at 7:04 am #18554HotrodParticipantJonabark,
I believe that each individual person has either some event or a string of events that finally wake them up to the farcical nature of the world as we know it. In my own little world, I sometimes wonder if it is better to be ignorant of how things really work. It is not easy questioning the conventional wisdom and there is certainly no reward for being the messenger of anti-establishment news. It gets to the point of not believing much of anything in the public realm anymore.
One of the events that opened my eyes was the fall of the Soviet Union. I was flummoxed by the fact that in almost every former Soviet republic leader after leader simply stopped being a communist and started being a non-communist overnight. This told me that the Predator class has no ideals that guide them. Their only allegiance is to themselves and money and power. And protecting the status quo.
IMHO this financial system, paper money backed by promises to repay at a future date, will have to run its course to oblivion and we find ourselves in its last death throes. I don’t see a way to get out of this without nasty repercussions regardless of who is in charge. Obama has been terrible, but would Willard have been any better? A man who won’t even use his given name. What an indication of the fake political world we find ourselves in.
The reality is that there is nobody who gets anywhere in politics (even at the local level) that will tell the unvarnished truth about our present situation. Sadly, there is no place for us in the 2 party system. We are politically homeless… The rich and powerful have got this sucker locked up tight and you are just along for the ride. You, as an individual, have to protect and prepare yourself as well as you can and maybe, just maybe, you can gently enlighten some of those close to you. That’s about all you can do.
January 22, 2015 at 7:25 am #18555TheTrivium4TWParticipantHi Ilargi,
You do everyone a grave disservice when you refer to the dElites and their operatives as “clowns.”
That’s akin to calling Joe Stalin “Uncle Joe.”
No, he wasn’t Uncle Joe, he was a sociopath out to do great harm to a whole lot of people who should’ve viewed him as a methodical tyrant, not a docile “uncle.”
No, these people aren’t clowns, they are criminals who use their fraudulent debt based, zero sum monetary “game” to starve 10s of millions to death…. 30 years ago! If the oligarchs use abstract systems to murder 10s of millions annually, do those people really die if you don’t recognize the underlying structure of the operation?
Yes.
Stop the disservice. Call them what they are – ice cold blooded criminals out to harm average people – and the really connected ones enjoy it a whole a lot.January 22, 2015 at 9:42 am #18557V. ArnoldParticipantIt’s really hard to take the republicans seriously with people like Joni Ernst; did anybody listen to her infantile speech? I couln’t get past the first 2 minutes.
But make no mistake: These people are dangerous…January 22, 2015 at 3:42 pm #18566BirdshakParticipantHow is bitching about the problem in any way akin to working toward its solution?
January 22, 2015 at 4:32 pm #18567Golden OxenParticipantHow is bitching about the problem in any way akin to working toward its solution?
Who should we vote for, Jeb or Hillary?
January 22, 2015 at 5:38 pm #18569ProfessorlocknloadParticipantThe momentum of the power grab is such now that it can’t be halted. ‘Bout all we can do at this point is step aside and let it’s own lust destroy it, being as vigilant as possible in not getting any on us, through the unravelling.
Must keep the powder dry so we may use it in building a new, improved “flawed system of governance, except for all the others.”
Next time around, maybe the Constitution should be a bit less wordy,,,like Maybe 5 words long,,,”Congress Shall Make No Laws.”
Heaven forbid law making should be the responsibility of the people, at the local level. What a vacuum that would leave in the ability to concentrate central power?
Of course, an amendment mandating all currency be real, and the sole property of it’s holder, not the property of the State, might be acceptable, maybe?
January 22, 2015 at 5:51 pm #18571ProfessorlocknloadParticipantHa! Bird and Oxen,,,spot on!
Segue to a bumper sticker I saw in a *church parking lot,,,”If God Had Intended For This To Be a Democracy, He’d Have Given Us Candidates”
*though I don’t attend such institutions, I do use their parking facilities as a short cut on occasion.
January 22, 2015 at 9:18 pm #18573Golden OxenParticipantOf course, an amendment mandating all currency be real, and the sole property of it’s holder, not the property of the State, might be acceptable, maybe?
What a wonderful world it would then be Professor. Only banksters and their politician puppets would be unhappy at that pleasant time.
January 23, 2015 at 1:56 am #18576BirdshakParticipantChoose a south facing window, and start a tray of lettuce or spinach. Bitch about banksters every day until the baby leaves are ready to eat, then eat them.
January 23, 2015 at 3:42 am #18578cloudhiddenParticipant@ Birdshak
“Choose a south facing window, and start a tray of lettuce or spinach. Bitch about banksters every day until the baby leaves are ready to eat, then eat them.”Banksters, or spinach?
January 23, 2015 at 10:04 am #18579V. ArnoldParticipant@ cloudhidden
Banksters, or spinach?
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Ha, ha, ha, ho, ho, ho; nice catch. Got me a big smile…January 23, 2015 at 5:56 pm #18588BirdshakParticipantWhichever goes best with a nice balsamic vinaigrette.
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