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ParticipantWell. Matt Taibbi’s post is excellent. I know I ditched the Democratic Party because of the DNC. With their latest shenanigans into the realms of the unreal, I find many of my friends and family viewing me suspiciously: they don’t necessarily like it either but “how could [I] become a Republican?!!” Alas. It is difficult to live in a world where “neither” is the right choice.
Thanks for picking up Webb’s piece, Ilargi. Listen to her on a podcast and be amazed: what a mind! She talks like Mark Lombardi charted, and look where that got him. I wish I could assign her my overworked guardian angel.my parents said know
ParticipantThe World Economic Forum is the Twilight Zone: “It’s a Good Life”.
If you didn’t feel like you had just been introduced to Anthony after you visited that site, you have more guts than I have.
They neatly outline our future. It’s GOOD of them to do that for us. It’s GOOD for all of us to be happy under their benevolent prognostications and handling of the facts.
They are so GOOD that I can hardly believe you have cited them to bolster your interest in masks.my parents said know
ParticipantAs a citizen of the US I can say that it may appear I am angry about trivial things. We are being surveilled and sorted and ranked.
I never think about these non-trivial things.
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ParticipantCheck out Statista:
Number of coronavirus (COVID-19) tests performed in the most impacted countries worldwide as of July 15, 2020.
The top five (China, US, Russia, India, UK) have used about 183 million tests. Someone’s making a lot of money on a “non-diagnostic” test.
How many masks per day worldwide? Gloves? Gowns? Sanitizing material?
How are they disposed of? (Disposal costs money, too).The thing about multi-billion dollar markets is they yearn to continue and use marketing to do so. Marketing doesn’t have to be honest or particularly true- it’s opinion, after all.
Does 3M ever whisper sweet nothings into the ears of governors to use the words “mandatory” or “required”?my parents said know
ParticipantV. Arnold- I responded to your post yesterday.
“Covid-19 has actually proved good for [twitter] business”. No. Really?
Just how much does money drive the “Covid” brand?
Meanwhile, on CSPAN this morning…
Dr. Jake Deutsch of “Cure Urgent Care” disparaged the use of HCQ saying that older studies suggested it may be effective, but later studies showed it was not so effective.
To a caller who wondered if her son needed two consecutive negative tests after fourteen days to be safe the doctor said “the [PCR] test is very sensitive and just reproduces small pieces of virus and it may be an inactive piece of virus that was nicked up and at four weeks may still be tested positive.”
So, no, her son doesn’t need two tests.
Why is it said that the PCR test is useful at all, ever?One more thing: Deutsch took HCQ when he was sick because that was “what was recommended in the literature”. He seems fine, now.
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ParticipantI take it graciously, V. Arnold.
The public reaction to this virus has made me little crazy. At the lake, NO ONE wears a mask. Everything is normal. There is danger on the lake- every year there are a few drowning deaths, but it doesn’t keep people from the water. They learn to swim. The joys of water vastly outweigh the dangers.
We are making over the human race in response to a pathogen that simply is not that severe. Humans were never meant to cover their faces- it has long been a sign of an untrustworthy person. Humans were never meant to keep their distance from each other- it is a sign of hostility. And now we are forcing children over 2 to wear masks and stay away from each other. This will damage them severely, and in their later years they will mistrust others and see hostility where there is none. That kind of early programming is difficult to undo. It affects adults as well- I cannot detach the current social tensions from the public health initiatives.
We are remaking humanity, and it is not a change that is for the better.my parents said know
ParticipantNo one will probably read this, but I just got back from the lake after a session on the pontoon to see comet Neowise. We had a very good view of it for being just outside the city. It was plainly visible to the naked eye and magnificent through the binoculars. After a bit of swimming to celebrate the event (along with two spectacular meteors), we got home around 11:45. Absolutely luscious!
I think what I hate most about masks is that they keep the fear and dread in our faces at all times. They aren’t going away, even if “Covid” does. Silly, doomed humans, embracing their fear and feeding on it like sugar. We sit on the sofa consuming the empty calories of specious safety making us fat, cowardly, and helpless.
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ParticipantWearing a mask doesn’t need a “scientistic” study to say it inhibits breathing. Put one on. If you feel no airflow restriction, good for you. You are wearing a badge, not a prophylactic.
Surgical masks have NOTHING to do with viral exchanges.
As for the composition of O2 and CO2 behind “a” mask- why would that change? If you have a capacious space behind it, it would most certainly accumulate CO2, leading to feelings of anxiety and panic.I just saw that children over two need to wear masks in my area. This is child abuse. The early years are when a child learns if the face matches the words and attitude. It would be more effective to use the wretched thing as a blindfold if mangling the psychology of a child is what we’re after.
Lockdowns, “social distancing”, isolation, and masks, etc cause depression. Read ANYTHING about it. We’re making a future [that will be] filled with narcissistic, self-absorbed, neurotic “citizens”.It’s clear we love the virus so much we don’t want to see it go away. “Slow down the spread?” WHY?
The totalitarians can use any virus- it doesn’t have to be “Covid” brand. And they will.
We are no longer basing all this on compassion. It’s about control- the magic juice of bad actors everywhere.“Jason McDonald, a spokesman for the CDC’s COVID-19 response, said they do not recommend face coverings for children under the age of 2 “because of concerns about suffocation.”” Star Tribune May 26, 2020.
Hmmmm.my parents said know
ParticipantYeah. Ears, bottom lip, teeth… not the same guy, but, my goodness, they could have swapped out if needed. I wonder if they knew each other.
Oh, sure- masks work as they are supposed to work: they alienate, subjugate, depress, inhibit breathing, suppress being heard, and brand the wearer as a true believer in the masked medical totalitarian surveillance future that is being mapped out for all of us. It will be Hell, and it will be soon. (Check out “Covid 360”).
They just can’t block a virus. If they worked for viruses, people would have naturally gravitated to them during colds and flu seasons.
Japan gets the flu at similar rates to maskless societies.my parents said know
ParticipantJust for the fun of it, google images of Dr. Redfield at the CDC, then google images of Wayne Carver, now deceased, who was the medical examiner at Sandy Hook.
My thanks to “Kia Kaha” over at Rappoport’s site, June 13th.my parents said know
ParticipantSure enough- I didn’t hit it twice, but like the warning said- slow down- you’ve posted twice, and sure enough there it is twice. Hunh.
My apologies, y’all.my parents said know
ParticipantWrite up for patent on new virus.
If the mind can be seen as a kind of computer, and a virus can infect a computer’s programming, then a computer-like virus can infect the mind. With a high enough threshold of infected minds, a “pandemic” can be declared and the “hive-mind” of a population will destroy itself.
A means of creating a virus which can be spread via the media creating a defect of function in infected minds.
Defects can be self-harming: masks to enhance alienation, self-isolation, separation and rejection of families and friends, postponement of key cultural rituals, removal from the deaths of loved ones, etc.; delusion: distortions of math and science, abnormal dread of risk, death-obsession, misalignment of priorities, etc.; and most importantly, cognitive dissonance: a state of believing many things that are exclusive of each other in time and in logic.
The latter gives rise to the name of the proposed virus: CogDis20.my parents said know
ParticipantWrite up for patent on new virus.
If the mind can be seen as a kind of computer, and a virus can infect a computer’s programming, then a computer-like virus can infect the mind. With a high enough threshold of infected minds, a “pandemic” can be declared and the “hive-mind” of a population will destroy itself.
A means of creating a virus which can be spread via the media creating a defect of function in infected minds.
Defects can be self-harming: masks to enhance alienation, self-isolation, separation and rejection of families and friends, postponement of key cultural rituals, removal from the deaths of loved ones, etc.; delusion: distortions of math and science, abnormal dread of risk, death-obsession, misalignment of priorities, etc.; and most importantly, cognitive dissonance: a state of believing many things that are exclusive of each other in time and in logic.
The latter gives rise to the name of the proposed virus: CogDis20.my parents said know
ParticipantThey say there’s no immunity.
There can be no vaccine.
I hereby rename this scourge “CogDis2020 virus”.
I wonder if they have tried Kaspersky?my parents said know
ParticipantThe hotel (the building on the right) was built in 1884. The architect was Stephen Decatur Hatch. It was razed in 1947. Shame.
A coronavirus cannot have nearly every symptom (and no symptoms at all!). If the one-solution “Covid19” hadn’t gotten in the way, they might have been on the road to figuring out what’s going on in the blood of people “diagnosed” (or not) with “Covid19 Brand”.
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ParticipantThe banks get all the foreclosures- including the remaining smallish farmlands. Real estate prices in most areas will plummet. Gated enclaves will be protected by private security. Hangers-on outside of them will fall prey to chaos, and then they, too will be bought out.
Then they will call “scrip!” (As currencies turn to ashes). You turn in what you have and they give you a chip. If you had some savings, you will be better off than those who didn’t, but most folks will get their UBI if they work in those fields or factories or at those desks and counters.
Feudalism- with its constant petty chessboard wars: That’s what I see coming. And lots and lots of death.
Until Arthur shows up and pulls a sword from a stone.
Or aliens could land again ; ) -preferably before we finally decide to play with our nuclear/biological/chemical toys.The happiest one is that all the rich bastards get on a luxury space yacht and land on Mars where they will find out the concierge has gone on to better things.
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Participantzerosum:
Four no trump.my parents said know
ParticipantCyrus Vance, I thought, would be 103! But of course it is his son. American aristocracy!
Trump’s classic narcissism (everything HIM is superlative) is most protective when it comes to his monetary worth. I suspect he is not a billionaire. It seems to be the one bit of BS he cares about.People die- even when they are young. I knew a 30 year old who dropped dead at work. (heart aneurysm). I knew a 50 year old who went to the hospital for one thing and died of sepsis. (Nosocomial- big settlement). Now those deaths are called “Covid”. (It affects the heart! It causes runaway infections!). Not allowing third parties at bedside hides a lot of truth.
Coronaviruses are respiratory diseases. If this one isn’t, someone has some explaining to do.
Calling everything “Covid” is preventing research into what is emerging as a serious syndrome (sticky, deoxygenated blood) in a small number of people.Of course China reports a new atypical pneumonia. With SC2, the west only shot itself in one foot. There’s a whole ‘nother foot to go to lay us flat.
Pinker? Wow. Chomsky’s protege. We aren’t slaughtering intellectuals in the streets yet, but it sure is starting to smell like a cultural revolution.
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ParticipantIn response to yesterday’s late comments:
Yes, they peel it off to hear me- an empathetic response because they know THEY are difficult to hear when a mask is on: it’s a signal to say “I can’t hear you”. It happened at the store the other day- I was speaking through a mask behind the plastic barrier -muffled speaking the clerk was having a hard time hearing- he took his mask off, and I removed mine. Now we could hear each other. It’s kind of like when I itch my nose, so does the person I’m talking to.
And I say again it is an adorable human empathetic response.Cop-on-the-scene: “Can you give me description of the attacker?”
Victim: “No, he was wearing a mask.”
One more thing: Beards. Does hair sanitize incoming air? A mask on a bearded face is hilarious.my parents said know
ParticipantZerosum- you are a brick.
Doc Robinson- I knew I had seen it somewhere. Thanks for the review. The sheet I saw said “chloroquine and derivatives”. I’m glad to see HCQ is okay.Masks are wrong.
Faces matter. Expressions matter. Masks AND social distancing? Why? Why ever outdoors?
Indoors: you must change it out. It must fit well. The gingham and sports cloth ones are ridiculous- but even N95s don’t stop viral particles. (have you SMELLED one of those things?). So what is the point? The WHO admitted it is RARELY spread asymptomatically.
Masks are a badge of solidarity. I don’t think I have yet heard a mask-wearer say “I hate this thing!”
People peel their masks off to hear (an adorable empathetic response), to smile (a natural response), to itch their face, to sneeze, to cough, to breathe. I see it again and again.
There’s a reason bandits wear masks. There’s a reason we react to a masked face with suspicion. (Convenient as we contemplate civil war).
Here in the land of scandihuns and germanavians the “social distancing” is business as usual. But the masks are inhuman. Putting one on a child is abuse. Wearing one when playing with a child is creepy. Really, really creepy. Joe Biden creepy. Stop it. It isn’t helping.my parents said know
Participantzerosum
From yesterday on HCQ: People with glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase (G6PD) are discouraged from taking HCQ (and a slew of other common drugs like aspirin and acetaminophen; also fava beans).
“An estimated 400 million people worldwide have glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase deficiency. This condition occurs most frequently in certain parts of Africa, Asia, the Mediterranean, and the Middle East. It affects about 1 in 10 African American males in the United States”. (NIH website)my parents said know
ParticipantFrom the CDC’s website
Volume 26, Number 5—May 2020
Policy Review
Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings—Personal Protective and Environmental Measures
“Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids (36). There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.”As deaths decrease and angry golden-agers call cspan demanding that IF children are ALLOWED to go back to school, they MUST social distance and wear masks, I’m becoming a little ashamed of my age cohort.
In “House”, a brilliant but manipulative diagnostician discovers why a patient is dying. Now he could simply say “Covid”.
There are soooo many peculiar afflictions one can get to meet an untimely death.my parents said know
ParticipantIf the TV show “House” had been made today, the episodes would be ten seconds long.
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Participantzerosum
Thank you again for producing the link.my parents said know
Participantzerosum
Come, come. I would never approve of spitting on anyone, ever, for any reason- even if I thought Covid was deadly. My line of “attack” is to stock up on some food in case I have to “shelter in place” for a real reason: monsters outside my house threatening me with a syringe filled with anything. Or forcing me to buy a cell phone.
Please do peruse Handley’s article if you haven’t yet. I’m thinking of sending it along to my governor. As they go, he’s been pretty good during this mess. I have been thinking lately about moving to a small town. State politics has overtaken “water feature” (swamp) in my search.my parents said know
ParticipantThe World vs The Virus may pan out to be World War 3. It starts with neighbor against neighbor, etc. Anyone may harbor the Virus/Enemy, so no one is a civilian. But it is really the elites vs the masses. Rights are removed. Authoritarians rule with propaganda, lies, diktat, shaming, bullying, confusion, surveillance. It is a war against human nature. The perpetrators of this war hope it won’t end until human nature dies and is replaced by algorithms.
The controllers of those algorithms would prefer to be machines. They have made it clear that humans are an infestation on the earth.
It is a sweet irony that viruses will infect the machines that will spew out the algorithms.The most glaring thing about MSM coverage of “Covid” is the reluctance to show any hope. So I urge anyone to visit Off Guardian today to read JB Handley’s article on herd immunity. Lose any fear you might have and put your energies into fighting the real enemy: the coming surveillance state and mass murder They are planning for your future.
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ParticipantWhen will they pull down the bull on Wall Street? Not that it will get rid of the bull on Wall Street…
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ParticipantOh, and I think “tin foil hats” are most becoming. I’d rather wear one of them than a mask.
(There are so many studies on the efficacy of masks- none are compellingly in their favor. There are, on the other hand, many studies that show a baby who cannot see his mother smile back at him will wail like a banshee in no time. It’s a thing we never grow out of…)my parents said know
Participantzerosum: sorry taking so long to get back. Thanks for linking it.
I think there are two illnesses out there. The “novel” coronavirus is a mild disease. The hypoxemic, blood-turns-to-glue syndrome is rare (so far), and studying it has been precluded by the hype of the former. I suspect it involves a major scandal.
I think it is a “co-factor” syndrome, which is why I had looked into the vaccinations and drugs they pump into frail folks in care homes, or urge on frail folks who live at home.
For “fun”, check the FDA’s drug recall website. A bad batch of something interacting with something else is as likely to be implicated as a virus cooked up in a lab. The “novel” coronavirus is a cover, IMO.
BTW, Lyme disease was lab grown, as far as I’m concerned.my parents said know
Participantzerosum: Here’s another over on PubMed:
Influenza Vaccination and Respiratory Virus Interference Among Department of Defense Personnel During the 2017-2018 Influenza SeasonIt’s also over on Kennedy’s “children’s health defense” under Is There a Relationship Between Influenza Vaccination and COVID-19 Mortality?
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ParticipantI’ve lost my will to post here-
It’s hot. My brain is stuck.
The way the world is headed
I no longer give a …
Damn!Went to grocery store yesterday that required masks. Instant asthma, foggy glasses, had to keep moving it to smell the produce, voices were all muffled. Worst of all, the place was filled with faceless zombies. We are hardwired for smiles.
We have entered the world of the living dead. But, gee, we’re safe, right? Safe is all there is, right? Better to be safe in Hell than to cough in Paradise, right?
Oh- and no masks with no social distancing didn’t cause The Virus to spread during our little riots. That’s so precious! God loves riots!my parents said know
Participant“Mongo see stars!”
I take that to mean you liked it- so glad! If it was the only thing computers had ever been used for, I’d say it was worth it.
For those who haven’t taken a peek, maybe “acid trip” was a poor simile. With more detail than the universe, I think it is a philosophical work…but is it art?Isn’t it grand that all the youngsters are now getting Covid in the summertime? Bring on the cases! The death numbers are dropping!
After all, if immunity is not bestowed by getting it, A VACCINE CANNOT WORK.Re the elections in the US: they will be contentious, to say the least, and the people fighting each other to champion such “leadership” is low comedy, indeed.
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Participant“Data from the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis shows that total savings deposits at US banks jumped sharply as the coronavirus outbreak surged in March and April.” Business Insider 14 May
I saw this a while back (somewhere else). andt it surprised me. The idea was that Americans were saving their checks. I recall Lagarde tsk-ing people for saving instead of spending, and current interests rates are punishing to savers, but apparently Americans will save, given a chance (and nowhere to go to spend it.)
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ParticipantBosco: I see your lemniscate and raise you “The Hardest Mandelbrot Zoom Ever In 2014,10^198 : New record – 350 000 000 iterations”. It’s an oldie but a bestie.
Y’all have seen it, I’m sure, but it’s a lovely revisit.
New computer and still can’t do links, but goggle the quote and take a nine minute acid trip. It’s my absolute favorite Mandelbrot zoom because the aim is so good.
If you have never seen it you’re in for a treat.
Just wasting time on this very sweet summer night.my parents said know
ParticipantLincoln County, Oregon, has exempted non-white people from a new order requiring that face coverings be worn in public — to prevent racial profiling. (NY Post June 23)
Fauci on masks- People had bandanas, gingham, and sewing machines back in March, too.
I look for them when I go out-
Sometimes it takes a while.
But when I see one I return
That happy gracious smile.my parents said know
ParticipantThanks for your reply. You are a front line reporter. What you report is what I hoped, and I am so happy to hear it.
Those who must go to the ER right away- is it the same syndrome? Do all your severe respiratory cases test positive? It keeps nagging at me that we have two things going on here and we are ignoring one of them by putting it under the same umbrella as sarscov2.
There seems to be a syndrome that turns blood to glue, but I see no reason to presume it is sarscov2.my parents said know
ParticipantHuckleberry Finn keeps getting ousted, but always comes back. Huck chooses Hell over racism.
Deaths are increasing- Remdesivir is now being touted – there’s even a nasal spray.
“Remdesivir: (Major) Coadministration of remdesivir and hydroxychloroquine is not recommended. The antiviral activity of remdesivir was antagonized by chloroquine phosphate in a dose-dependent manner when the 2 drugs were co-incubated at clinically relevant concentrations in an in vitro study.”
(Prescriber’s Digital Reference)
WebMD says HCQ must not be used if using remdesivir. (’cause the remdesivir won’t “work”!)
How convenient. I swear they are manufacturing death to keep this virus going. I was skeptical when I read that the DNC wants a second wave to defeat Trump, but they DO hate him that much.If Clinton had shown some grace in her concession (or EVER!), we might not be worried about civil war. Hatred and rage make a lousy platform.
John Day: have you used HCQ+? Does it work?
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ParticipantDepersonalization started with pagers. (Feel free to go back further.) The pager beeped and Very Important People rudely interrupted their social group to answer it. Technology beckoned and we answered, “Yes!”
Computers followed on the heels of television to make our screentime productive. And we said, “Yes. Yes!” Telephones went mobile soon after, and once again people felt the tech out-privileged the social group and took calls, saying “Yes, yes. Yes!” Then they all melded together and the Singularity didn’t need to be wired into heads- it was glued to the palms of our hands. People could attempt conversation but one -eventually all- would rudely scroll and text and take calls, saying, “Yes, yes, yes, oh yes!”One day, somebody modelled that we were all going to die (something we tend to deny) unless we let the screens run our lives- socializing was banned and masks hid our emotions. We had to be tracked and monitored For Our Own Good. All necessary interaction could be done by the screen. School, work, parties, the doctor, worship, rituals, government mandates.. We never had to touch each other again. Soon we’ll be chipped like all the Things in the Internet thereof, and danger may come but we’ll feel no fear. Heaven?
And we said “Yes! Yes! Yes! Ohhh YES!”
Now we are no longer human, and having sold out our humanity for safety, we deserve every last rotten thing that comes along. The proud (with different rules) will inherit the earth, each one using as much as a million once did. The few Meek remaining will comb garbage dumps for rare earths. A privileged few Meeks will live in full health until their kidney or liver or heart is needed.
Well done, species. (Cue illustration from Canto 34: Lucifer, King of Hell: He looks frustrated. He didn’t want soul-less creatures devoid of Will, did he? Where is the suffering in those who feel nothing? Where is the free will to crush in those who forgot how to say “NO”?)My apologies to Joyce, who comes to me via a Rodney Dangerfield movie.
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ParticipantCivil war…
It depends on how August pans out, economically. It looks bleak, and it will be hot.It’ will be hard to have elections in a nation of homeless people. The Erinyes will step in. Then it will get nasty.
The US gov will start wars elsewhere to “unite” the people and give them things to do. US “allies” might find pro-American State Forces will face angry citizens refusing to “help” the US. The US will use bombs and sanctions to compel allies to join. The civil wars spread worldwide as food grows scarce and sides- many, many sides- form, dissipate, and form anew.
We’ll see weapons we never saw before.Bunker hunting will become everyone’s favorite sport. Everyone who was going to die of covid will have done so.
On a happier note, people will start hugging and kissing and hanging out again. Hands will be shaken, songs will be sung together. Food will be shared over candlelight, if you’re lucky enough to have either.my parents said know
ParticipantHatred of Trump is not a platform, but I find friends and family thinking it is, and if I don’t agree I become the object of their fury..
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