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A treatment that has a 50% death rate seems to be a treatment that needs some tweaking.
How does one clean a respirator? Does UVC sterilize each breath? How does one clean a hospital room? Do they throw out the beds? How much viral-covered waste is being generated here?
How many go into the hospital with a moderately severe case and wind up maximizing the viral load?
Where possible, perhaps hospital rooms should be outdoors under the light of the sterilizing sun.
Would electrostatic masks work?
How long before people start going crazy? Another SIX months?We’re going to learn to live with it.
What’s at stake is HOW.Your best rhetoric ever, Dr. D. Nicely put, zerosum.
Goodness, that was a long read.
Has anyone dug any of those dead vapers and tested them yet?
The description of their lung damage was spot-on. I think someone even used the “ground glass opacity” metaphor. (Naveed Saleh, for example, in a sept 27th, 2019 article for medlinx.)Bosco-
“Crowded” in this small town still let people keep pretty good distance from each other, but six feet seems silly when the aerosol hangs in the air for three hours. I wore a loose turtleneck fleece shirt, and tucked my face in when the guy coughed. I do that all winter- I am a dark season germaphobe. If someone sneezes in the aisle one over, I forego crackers ’til the next time.
You probably won’t see this- but I came back to read the late night posts- you were on a roll.Thanks zerosum, from yesterday. One would think that should work. I have been to many different sites- general and specific to wordpress- all with the same results: the link shows up as html. If I simply type the link, the post doesn’t post, even if I leave off bits. It’s probably something too obvious- but that’s the sort of thing I miss. I’ve even tried different computers.
We braved the real world today before we are all supposed to stay home here in my state- to buy produce and crickets (I have tortoises, bearded dragons, anoles). The store was crowded and there were no children. No one wore a mask (we don’t have any). Someone nearby coughed, so when we got home we showered, and then took a sunbath. There is one case we know of in our little town.
My state was shown to be the least concerned of the fifty about The Virus, and I still feel that knowing there is a treatment has made me feel easier. Cuba is having good results with interferon alpha2b, as well.
That this info is not being used to allay fears means they aren’t done trying to scare us all into submission. Imagine a year ago if someone told you that governments were going to shut down businesses- so many of whom are unlikely to survive. And then stuff billions into the pockets of the already stuffy.
The Virus is not going to just go away in two weeks. Epidemics come in waves. What happens next?
The Shadow [government] Knows!
Ilargi, your stuff scares me; Dr. D, etal., your stuff makes me think something sinister is afoot. I am more afraid of the sinister than the medical.
Ah, well. Que sera, sera.
Oh, yeah. F**K Baraitser.I’ve been working on making links- all I get is unpostable html. Please try and check out the “evolutamente” site- the articles are a fascinating read concerning vitamin c, melatonin, nitric oxide, etc.
They are a bit too medical for a non-professional like myself, but the MDs here might enjoy them.Here is a prayer that may or may not be pertinent for these times:
Forgive us our secrets as we forgive those
Of our friends and our loved ones.
We only suppose our secrets are hidden from curious eyes.
Let us not be mistaken:
Our secrets breed lies.Forgive us our secrets as we forgive those
Of our experts and leaders, who wear them like clothes
To hide indiscretions; for power; for ill-
Let us not be mistaken:
Our secrets can kill.Started in 1983. Released into the wild today.
Would you choose a lung-wrenching respirator if there were an off-label, known-to-be-safe antimalarial which has proven to be effective, at least in some cases?
I felt so much easier when the chloroquine compounds were suggested: a treatment that defeats the virus in a week or less. Do the clinical trials, of course- but if I go in with The Virus, I want the soft treatment first before I am near-death facing a respirator: I don’t care if it is “approved”.
Easter will still happen. It’s a state of mind, not a thing.Yea!
Okay- so I can’t post anything that looks like an url, and I don’t know how to link, so I’ll just say check out a site called “evolutamente”. It’s Italian, but I got linked to an english version via a Kunstler’s March 23, 2:32pm post.
The articles on covid 19 are wonderfully interesting. They say there are 103 different versions of The Virus.
Now I am going to go and figure out how to link.Seychelles: so what are the people with Lupus doing? A caller on C-span already had been told there wasn’t any for her; then there was but it would be really expensive; then they found her a two-month supply at a slightly elevated price.
Maybe no one in Texas has Lupus.
Edicts. Geez.Whither grace in the curving world
And gifts without encumbrance?
What is the path to a mind at peace
And love without remembrance?Russia:Italy. Things go ’round and ’round.
Back from my constitutional to catch the sun, and I want to edit the ditty above: dump the first apostrophe ess.
…”Of the Past and the Future’s twin towers.”
Better.Economies crashing;
The populace thrashing-
The powerful increase their powers.
A sinister mission:
Controlled demolition
Of the Past’s and the Future’s twin towers.Bosco: Someone on another site suggested we could just use baby wipes instead of TP. We need better Public Service Announcements.
Considering we were having a big uptick in chlamydia, we should even have bunch of azithromycin on hand, right?
Will clarithromycin (helicobacter fighter) also work? We should have stores of that, as well. How about other macrolides? (It’s funny- all these drug words come up with spellchecker. I’ve had to go back to my Harrison’s a couple of time to make sure I was getting them right.)
First named editor of my 14th edition? Anthony S. Fauci.Ah, daffodils! In color! Mine are four inches out of the ground at this time.
So now we have a cure. Are the four congress-types buying back in now? Or just stock in the makers of hydroxychloroquine? As black markets in it arise, will the talking heads make sure people get the message not to overdose and go blind? Deagel wants to know.
I find it interesting that we know about the shenanigans involving the Winnipeg biolab breaches and the Harvard fancy-pants guy. If I were going to be a conspiracy hypothesist, I would suggest that this was necessary for plausible deniability in the event of an accidently on-purpose release of some nasty bug here and there. They stole it (or is it them), and they didn’t know how to handle it/them like WE do. It doesn’t help that the spooks are having secret meetings about it. It doesn’t help at all.
It has been said each new war is fought with new technology. Or is it that new technology entices warmongers to start new wars?I hope they don’t cancel May- I wish I had some cammo so no one could see me as I hunt for my mushrooms- a totally solitary endeavor.
This whole thing is starting to feel like the post-Boston marathon lockdown.
This should tell me if it was content.When you got a virus
When you got a bug,
Making rich folks richer
Is better than a hug.I’m sorry. I can’t help it. I’m one of those poets who hates reading poetry but can’t seem to stop writing it.
Raul Ilargi Meijer:
I look at the daily run on The Virus as installments in a comic book series. I’m frankly addicted to them. It’s something to do during the Great Shutdown.
I went for a long walk yesterday, and the number of people strolling about amazed me. Kids (school’s closed) were doing homework on park benches. Everybody was smiling and cheerful. So far, so good.Wasn’t Boeing “just” reflecting what Lagarde said: “Do you want jobs? Or do you want savings accounts?” Boeing didn’t want savings. I’m sure it had nothing to do with pumping up their share price. Jobs! /s
It was unclear as to why jobs or savings were exclusive of each other.So, not yet, RIM. But it’s early.
Oh, nuts. My link didn’t work.
“people with blood type A most susceptible to corona virus infection…” from “medRxiv” via Tass.My fear, it doth envelop me
‘Til what I fear is all I see.I keep swinging back and forth between “This thing is terrifying” and “We’re in a simulation”.
It could be both or neither, I suppose, but I know that when I think it is terrifying, I’m numb.Oxymoron: I am optimistic. I think people will find that a shared purpose and a sense of community are pretty good substitutions for materialism.
Forced- for a while- to communicate by screen, and prohibited from contact, we will long for the good old days of face to face interactions. They will return.The roller coaster’s headed down.
The world’s all tilt-a-whirl.
They didn’t want to panic you-
Now sit. Now stay!
A squirrel!The voices of the dem candidates last night changed when they talked about The Virus, and I thought: They’re programmed! Just like the people in the press conferences; just like the media folk; just like all the politicians, local to national.
I wondered: do the numbers match the reaction? Would I buy a lottery ticket whose odds were the same as me catching The Virus? Nope.
The Virus is the perfect terrorist (a nod to “Ellis Medavoy”). Anyone can become a victim. Anyone could be the ticking bomb. We are about to have a year with summer beckoning to us, and we are stuck indoors like it’s winter.
The above post at 3:47 is one of Dr. D’s best.
Would the bad guys of the world let loose a bunch of squirrels to distract the watchdogs while the global economy (cough) reconfigured?
Of course they would.
Something ominous is afoot, and it scares me more than SARS-CoV-2.When I’m coming down with a cold I take a bath so hot as to raise my temperature to fever level.
This usually knocks the virus back so far I escape it, or cuts it back to a mere two to four days instead of ten. Fevers are good, unless they get too high.
Iceland. Hot springs. Does The Virus survive?
I wonder if the youngsters who are contracting it are asthmatics on corticosteroids? The only demographics on the stricken are age, gender, and nation. It’s pretty clear that Italy’s bug is not the same as Korea’s (or that Italians are not Koreans).
Raul Ilargi Meijer: You are a treasure. Thank-you. The check is in the mail.Biolabs and Pharma
Sitting in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G.
First comes CoV
Then comes carnage.
Then come profits in the mega-tonnage.Sorry. It’s an assonance.
Man- I sure wish there was a sarcasm font.
Not that I’d know how to use it.Meanwhile, over at yesterday’s Kunstler, a poster named “Pucker” (March 13, 2020. 6:28pm; 8:41pm) has posted bits from John M. Barry’s
“The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History” (Too long to repost.)
Scary stuff, RNA viruses. No reliable vaccines. No immunity, either.Thought experiment:
Will business deals be more or less satisfactory when face-to-face contact is restricted?
I have known business people who insist on human contact when making deals, but these people are often charming bullshitters and not particularly trusted by those who know them personally. Their charm closes the deal, not the facts or data.
If people must make a deals based on the information before them, and not the personal sway of the handshaker, might more satisfactory deals be more likely?Let’s pretend that you had “the flu” a couple weeks back (and you wisely steered clear of medical facilities). You test because you need to know if you can now visit Grampa. You test to see if you should not visit your friend undergoing chemo. You test to see if you can return to your job in the nursing home. You test because tests are cheap, and will soon be abundant, and even accurate.
Do we get immunity from exposure to this virus? Isn’t one of the horrors of this particular virus that your own immune response is the deadly part?I don’t know. My head spins with all the “information” I have read and heard about this thing. There are at least two strains (maybe five?) “L” is very bad; “S” not as bad. Which is it where you live? Does exposure to “S” give immunity to “L”?
You test because data are fun.
We hope the strain will eventually weaken. The instant cull with an intensive care overload is brutal.I’m listening to the President’s market-boosting chat: a long-wait test is probably worse than useless. It will have to be as instant as possible, with a self-quarantine until the results come in.
My earlier post should have said “Moon of Alabama, Information Clearing House March 12” for the quote.
The same MoA who wrote for FireDogLake?
Also: Yea for Chelsea Manning!
