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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle January 10 2022 #97597
    Noirette
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    Some links.

    Covid vax and pregancy from Swiss Policy Research.

    “According to a preliminary analysis of British data, covid vaccination during pregnancy might be associated with a 33% increased risk of stillbirth.”

    Covid Vaccination and Pregnancy

    COVID-19 Vaccines. Jan 2022. Over One Thousand Scientific Studies Prove that the COVID-19 Vaccines Are Dangerous, and All Those Pushing This Agenda Are Committing the Indictable Crime of Gross Misconduct in Public Office…  See, 

    Covid Vaccine Scientific Proof Lethal

    CDC data.

    Provider Relief Fund COVID-19 High-Impact Payments … The bipartisan CARES Act, the Paycheck Protection Program and Health Care …

    The sums given out for COV relief are staggering, to judge, one has to have all the budgets in hand, I don’t…

    https://data.cdc.gov/Administrative/Provider-Relief-Fund-COVID-19-High-Impact-Payments/b58h-s9zx/data
       

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 10 2022 #97591
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    From top post, Kory:

    I am exhausted.. physically and emotionally and morally. Although I am not sure moral exhaustion is “a thing,” the daily witnessing of masses of physicians and pharmacists abandoning their core responsibility of placing the welfare of the patient as their primary consideration.. is beyond wearying.

    Wearying should = horrifying. Anyways, many pundits are explainin’ a-hem, Mass Formation (Desmet, or, mass formation psychosis, etc.), which is interesting, OK.

    Where I am the local Pol in charge of health can be seen as subject to it, in a way.

    He follows the advice of Experts, Docs, and the like, as he knows nothing about virology, epidemics, anti-viral meds, etc. He mimics what other powers do, counts on ‘other’ examples to furnish a conventional, consensual, follow-along strategy.

    I heard this morning from a Med. worker, in the local *public* hospital (as in some places in the US, 1) double vaxxed positive test med workers can work, no vaxx with neg test are barred. This is not an outcome of Mass Formation, but of mimetism, incompetence, hasty rule-making, and ‘start-up’ type management.

    The mass type “psychosis” is seen in the ordinary ppl who have been propagandised, ill informed, manipulated, brainwashed, terrified, etc.

    A bit long! Main point:

    The physicians and pharmacists, Docs, hospital workers / managers, who abandoned their ‘core responsibility’ did so under pressure, threat, their livelihood at stake — they bowed.

    Some (20%?) accepted consequent bribery, feeding their status aspirations and greed. Many (most?) knew, know, exactly what is going on, they caved, did not stand up. Notable exceptions exist, yes.

    Ordinary ppl are relentlessly subjected to fear-mongering, which includes demonising the ‘other’ (unvaxxed in this case) – they can be induced to mass ‘psychosis’ – their fear whipped up to hate the neighbor with bad outcomes, all of which makes them dependent on the “Masters”..

    1 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384101/California-allows-hospitals-force-COVID-positive-employees-work-amid-brutal-staffing-shortage.html

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 6 2022 #97178
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    VietnamVet posted:

    Yes, it is true. If PM Justine Trudeau, President Emmanuel Macron, and President Joe Biden all denigrate, piss on, the unvaccinated; western democracies are no more.

    Significant portion of their populations are scapegoats for the government’s spectacular failure to control the coronavirus pandemic with mRNA vaccines alone. This was fundamentally caused by the West’s discarding of public health principles, stopping off-patent treatments and ignoring non-pharmaceutical interventions — all in order for the rich to get richer at the expense of others.

    VV, great summary. All these ‘leaders’ have now made astonishing statements targetting the unvaxxed.

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    The proper translation of Macron’s words was not “to piss them off” but “to fuck them over to the bitter end.”

    The MSM backed off the words or one of their darlings, softened them, as Macron was too outspoken.

    Macron: «J’ai très envie de les emmerder, donc on va continuer de le faire, jusqu’au bout. C’est ça, la stratégie»

    => .. I really . .feel like .. /emmerder / = > shitting all over them / fucking them. So, we will continue to do it, to the end. That is the strategy.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 6 2022 #97175
    Noirette
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    those darned kids posted some time back:

    where did all the terrorists go? did they get covid?

    Nah. They joined the new White Helmets who wear white jackets, like, heh, became jab-em gig-workers in pop-up tents; volunteered for body removals; became lower-level sanitary Po-lice, mostly paid decently.

    They despise terrorists, who are now, white supremacists, misogynists, Do-mestic terrorists! Doughy whities or dumb right-wingers are the pits! Specially the men!

    They don’t suffer from Covid as they take vitamin D, have horse-paste in their pockets, are skinny, and don’t drink or do drugs.

    >> Black humor is hard to bring off, hmm. I have to practise.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 4 2022 #96955
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    Bosnia become first country in Europe without COVID pass!

    “Mirnes Ajanović defeated Bosnian Federal government.”

    (from Dec. 7. He is a lawyer.) News in Eng.:

    https://bit.ly/3mU691S

    in reply to: 21/22 #96865
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    This link, from the Max Plank – Berkeley Human Mortality Database, shows charts for excess deaths, all cause mortality, for the USA, some European Countries, and two others, Israel, South Korea, in relation to Vax rates. Informative…

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/edzgy4oroc62ap2/EXCESS-DEATHS-30Dec2021.pdf?dl=0

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 3 2022 #96859
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    Vid link is to collection of (anonymous) Australian Med-workers talking about vaxx adverse effects, incl deaths. Eng. Odysee.

    https://bit.ly/3ERFXvh

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 3 2022 #96856
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    On, Bizzare illness plagues young Canadians. RT. (top post.)

    https://www.rt.com/news/545015-new-brunswick-cognitive-decline-epidemic/

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    Similar to the Guardian which has more details.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/02/neurological-illness-affecting-young-adults-canada

    Sounds like prion disease to me. Note, *I am not a med doc or similar*

    I have posted before, Creuztfeld-Jacob disease in France, after the Vax. All in F, vids.

    https://bit.ly/3468FLZ — husband details history of wife, etc. on TV. wife close to death (in this vid). C-J diagnosis now no longer denied, as the GP has one other case. Others write to husband, same story.

    https://bit.ly/32FCXoK — Woman healthy died of C-Jakob, 10 nov. 2021, fully vaxxed. As usual, 5 other cases were reported, to the person posting, not Med. authorities.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 2 2022 #96759
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    Interesting vid. segment from Dr. J. Abramson, on what goes on behind big Pharma. (Top post.)

    He states openly that “he knows” but “can’t say”, because…contracts (and in other cases, orders, etc.) -> He can go on TV and do interviews and whatever, but can’t address xyz, or communicate some abc knowledge he has.

    A great example of totalitarian control that stretches to what one voice can transmit to others… in some areas… Not flash news of course (secrets and hidden plots are, well, just human..) but the modern twist is that ppl admit publicly their communications are controlled by outside, supra-ordinate force and this is accepted! Audience Nods! (say.) (Functionaries, spokes-persons etc. have existed since forever, but their role is circumscribed, and transparent.)

    Let’s not forget, one Big Pharma Co. Violation Tracker Parent Company Summary

    Parent Company Name:  Pfizer

    https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/pfizer

    Look at the incredible sums, just for what they have been convicted of, forced to pay. I.e. their profits allow such pay-outs.

    Another consideration is that Big Pharma has been in trouble for some time. This article and chart is from 2017 (many others exist, just one ex.) shows a long term trend, which imho has gotten worse, leading to ‘desperate measures..’

    Will Pharma Reach a Negative Return on its R&D Investments?

    in reply to: Dr. Robert Malone on Joe Rogan #96753
    Noirette
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    Germ, all my condolences, so sorry to hear the sad news, it is always difficult to find words, so…enough.

    in reply to: Dr. Robert Malone on Joe Rogan #96691
    Noirette
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    Yes will watch the Rogan show. Happy New Year to Everyone 🙂

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    On: Justin Trudeau Calls the Unvaccinated ‘Racist and Misogynistic Extremists’ prev. thread. See Doc Robinson above who also commented.

    Not random. One wide view:

    Two MAIN socio-political-economic-ideological forces in the West (5 eyes, EU, hangers-on..) are confronting each other.

    The first, its principles, ideology, and just ‘general attitude’ is prevalent, maybe even dominant in some places, though everywhere there exists some, very varied, resistance.

    Its basic pillars.

    Inclusiveness (extreme form, ’Wokeism.’) All ppl are ‘equal’ and divisions according to race, gender, sex pref, color, etc. are ‘wrong.’ Hard to argue against! 🙂

    Such principles have often been espoused by conquerors, while varying in application. See for ex. the French in N. Africa in colonialist times who imposed a ‘French’ culture: gvmt. org, language, respected authors, pundits, education, manners, dress, etc., and continue to do so today there and at home, to ‘include’ aka, assimilate, the ‘others’ ..there are no distinctions made amongst the ‘others’…

    The principles can veer into ‘perversion’, be instrumentalised. For ex. *Secularism* in France is a National quasi-Religion which allows the hatred, fear, and criminalisation of Muslims, based on religion, which is in the mind, while damning the violent Israeli Gvmt is seen as ‘racist’ (jewish = ethnicity) and may lead to a prison sentence. In the US, ‘wokeness’ via a ‘diversity’ agenda has been exploited by a class of bureaucrats / managers for their own benefit, by distributing posts and favors to yes-men-n-women while managing and skimming off the top.

    A drive for a One-World (or one-pan-something-large areas) of Totalitarian control. All can join together and be subjects of a Mega-Region, which adopts the ‘right, moral’ principles at its core. De facto, run by Corporations as they have more power, of the *economic* type, than the ‘Nations’ today. They run the pipelines, make the bombs, deliver the fertilizer, hire the workers, charge the Gvmts, control the MSM, etc.

    On board are the WEF, the UN (thru creeping corruption), the WHO (taken over by private interests), Banks, Finance (yes), various regulatory and other bodies all over, Many Gvmts (Canada..), ‘blocs’ e.g. the EU, above the Nations, as well as many others, e.g. Corps who fear cancelling for not championing.. (ex. Airlines)

    Other strands embraced.

    — Big Tech, techno-keen, a future ruled by ‘innovation’…(AI, etc.) See the Digital Vax passes, the test and trace, following the whole population, social credit systems, Build Back Better, etc. Innovation, Modernity, a better life for All! COV-19 exploited to the hilt, including killing off elderly / dependent ppl. The unvaxxed become the new outcasts, the new category that can be condemned (not racist, ageist, sexist..)

    — Pacifism, against outright murderous agression, which is unecessary and wasteful (once one has control.) Wars are out the door if everyone adopts ‘the right way.’

    — Green agenda; sunshine + wind will bless us with all we need. (?!) Long story.

    — Politically-economically, the idea (Kalergi Plan..an omni-present pre-cursor, wiki) was:

    …Individualism and socialism would cooperate instead of compete, and urged that capitalism and communism cross-fertilize each other.. -> see China.

    Opponents, the other side, are fractured and disorganised.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_von_Coudenhove-Kalergi

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 29 2021 #96526
    Noirette
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    The Ice Age Farmer (vid. 14 mins with refs. to texts etc.) links cov-vax mandates to breaks in supply lines (trucking in the main), also in a minor key, to the Schwabian “Great Reset.”

    Youtube: https://bit.ly/3z69akG

    Below link, Russia’s Covid Coup d’Etat, informs about some of what is going in Russia, not great, confused imho, anyway some clues:

    https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/russias-covid-coup-detat

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 28 2021 #96520
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    Oxymoron, imho (so who knows, heh!) I am high on love and compassion, and also, just as important, forgiveness, but some of the MSM slick talking heads get no excuse in my book, the whole MSM needs to be ‘taken out’, scrapped. What would replace it id another story.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 28 2021 #96452
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    The devastating impact of Covid policies on children….

    -> the second post up top, a vid on twitter

    // clips .. The argument is made that children – kids – will be paying for a generation. School closure, etc. Black kids more affected! Suicides up. Their dreams, their mental health…if our policies are not more measured.. will be paying .. the most under reported story of the past year…//

    This is absolutely standard official ersatz alarmism that is carefully dosed, proffered, to show sensitivity to ‘whatever the dumb public, the sheeples, the deplorables’ may be thinking / figuring out / concerned about / or even … expecting to hear!

    Authorities (TV pundits!) echo what they pretend to see as a grave concern that previously was in the shadows.. unrecognized .. not admitted to… The MSM, or rather their controllers, keep up with ‘public concern’ (Often, that public concern is sparked by them in the first place – they control the narrative..) to then denounce! oh my! – all too horrible! and nobody knew! or dared say!

    Child – teen deaths, health policy, will never be affected by any TV blathering.

    All the scenes, scripts, are calculated to keep ppl on board, submissive, and following, trusting, the MSM. Viewers are induced to feel righteous, vindicated, in that they heard, intuited, some ‘under-reported’ stories (e.g. circulating on social media) and now Officialdom has noticed as well!

    Note the snarky smile of the lady presenter at the beginning talking of ‘under reported stories’…she can hardly hide her glee at performing scripted deception, like, “Ok let’s do this fakery guys” attitude. Plus the main actress reporting the story is deliberately not a plastic TV face, but an older, more ordinary looking woman. She stumbles and doesn’t perform well, too bad…

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 27 2021 #96358
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    John Day posted: Can we survive this phase? Do we have constructive alternatives that we can display as models?

    That’s sort of a tall order. Does anybody have constructive alternative arrangements? (…)

    I’m sorry. I’m just trying to see where the back-up arrangements are located.

    December 26, 2021 at 10:00 pm

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    Back-up arrangements are (afaik) few and far between. They should be country / Region wide.

    Describing re. Switz. Detailed here is official – or semi-official – or expected – or part of local plans – etc., but not discussed much, and no doubt much more is ?? kept under wraps.

    Note: *A breakdown of society is only envisaged as due to an energy crunch.*

    —> Local minor wars are expected to be won and major nuclear war will see a small part of the population survive, in the cellars…ha ha.. with everyone else blasted. Lots of deaths (pandemic etc.) are not considered a problem.

    CH is independent for electricity, via hydro – nuke (it used to be a swing procedure for Italy and Austria, but now actually imports electricity for the winter.)

    All road transport is dependent on imported oil, and this is a huge problem.

    Another is that CH imports about 50% (rough) of its food, note it also exports a lot of food, as CH straddles border regions, and the borders are artificial, in the sense of not tied to Geography. At present, free trade (or more or less so) in the Regions (Schengen Area, EU), allows the Regions to commerce with their neighbors, which is why the export-import numbers are not interesting.

    However, the transport of essential goods, mostly food, would rapidly become problematic.

    CH uses very little natgas (when the Kadafi scandal broke out, 2, it was quickly figured out how to give up using it completely – Italy has a far worse problem..): the overall stats. show that about 50% of energy (all types) is used in buildings – heating, cooling, maintainance, hot and cold water, elevators, lighting, the basics (not taking into account non-essential human activity like me typing now, or production, factories, nor garages for cars, etc.) So the plan is immediate doubling up. Half the housing is to be abandoned, some whole sections condemned, plus a re-grouping, so as to shorten transport lines. Tough call. 1. Which relates to the problem of heat in the winter, though global warming is being helpful.

    Food rationing would be immediate. (All lodged under ‘energy crunch’..)

    Policing as a whole, keeping order in chaos, is always hard to score, but CH (8 million pop), small, with a conscript army, a heavy network of Civil Protection, and Cantonal Police (local) is hopefully expected to …not experience Riot-Murder type implosion. Hmm. Idk.

    Being self-sufficient on a ‘farm’ or such like is a fantasy of the rich, or ex-colonialists. (USA).

    A data cruncher in Hong Kong, a pediatric nurse in Paris, a factory worker in Slovenia, a Spanish restaurateur, a Syrian refugee in Germany, a homey Mom with 5 children, a Swissair pilot, a floor cleaner in Clermont Ferrand, a lost teen in a Home …none of them own anything much and all of them are dependent on regular food deliveries, energy to cook, heat, bathe, etc.

    1. From 1960 to 2010 the housing residential area occupied by one person doubled. (rough) Note this no. does not include ‘office space.’

    2. A Kadafi son was arrested and thrown into prison in CH, as was his pregnant wife, both accused of beating and torturing their servants.

    Dollar Street offers profiles of families around the world, their income, living conditions…have a look:

    https://www.gapminder.org/dollar-street

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Boxing Day 2021 #96287
    Noirette
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    from article, Ilargi’s prev. post, Malone:

    I predict that a broad global consensus will emerge that the integrity of our entire western health care systems, our media, big tech, and western political systems has been breached by the corrupting influence of a financial system that has lost integrity and become decoupled from any sense of morality, and which perceives no economic value in either fundamental human dignity or community. 

    https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/resist-the-time-is-now

    Idk about the broad consensus emerging, we will see.

    It is so that Covidians and thus COV19 are rampant in the ‘West’ -> ‘rich’, aka high to X-treme ressource gobblers, as compared to the rest of the world.

    Multiple reasons for this: the hysteria and ersatz alarm underground present in these W societies; the fact that profits can be made via vaxxes + meds (not so much in Yemen or Ethiopia, say); the desire to control implemented by e.g. ‘vax passes’ by Big Tech; a growing mad-cap ideology of Man Over Nature, control by ‘fiat’, authoritarian decree, to be enforced at any cost, in a kind of self-harming spiral; a perceived need to stop impoverishment, being downgraded, incipient collapse; other, a long list.

    *Sidebar.* A bunch of Obama staff and advisors came to CH before the implementation of Obama Care. As the med. CH system officially, on the surface, functions uniquely via private insurance, the Amrikis were super keen to pump this model for their own use.

    The man in charge at the time in CH, Pascal Couchepin, was very flattered and received them graciously with some pomp. When the Amerloques understood that the system rested on a fixed-price list for Med. Care, (TARMED in CH) and that these prices were negotiated regularly by Pharma, Pols, Docs, and citizens, they made some excuses and …left.

    In theory, in CH, a Doc – or hospital, clinic, therapist, massage specialist, surgeon, etc. – can charge what they like, free-market. However the fixed tariffs used for re-imbursement by insurance, the fact that individuals are obliged to have health insurance (another aspect the Obama guys-gals were salivating about) means that the whole ‘private insurance cos network’ are Para-State Institutions. Indeed, when one of them goes PHUT, which happens regularly, the State bails them out in the sense that it pays those insured what they are due, and summarily shunts them to some other Insurance Co. (Individuals can subsequently choose..) The State also pays the premiums for the ‘poor.’

    To return to the main topic, there is NO economic gain in championing fundamental human values or whatnot, ever. Quite the opposite…

    Once Education — private schools, higher ed, colleges, etc. — Health Care — Transport, are all run ‘for profit’ via sophisticated prop, advertising, algos, etc. the risk of fractioning, imploding, degrading, etc. society (USA top ex. but not alone) increases. “Gvmt” then becomes a feeble policing authority attempting to keep it all together, or pretending to do so, or while working for some ‘interests’ it sees as ‘winners’…

    Screwing over neighbors, children, elders, clients, fellow citizens, for personal, or Corporate, investor, other top entities, gain, can work for a while in a time of energy abundance, cornucopia, hubris, and may the best profiteers win … but the slow rot and degradation attendant to the profit-seeking (in Education for ex.) have long-lasting effects.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Christmas Eve 2021 #96174
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    V. Arnold, Yes, it is a veil.

    These veils were attached to head dressings like hats (so no ugly straps and the like, and easy to remove, just take off your hat) and were very ‘light’ – sheer, see-thru, one would say today, but at the time supposedly lending an air of mystery to the eyes. That was the point, very-fashionable, super-sexy.

    Some covered the whole face, others went to the middle of the nose, or just down to below the nose.

    see here for ex.

    https://bjws.blogspot.com/2013/10/fall-fashion-women-in-veils-1880s-1930s.html

    (—> some lovely paintings)

    A modern example from saatchi art (poor painting but gives the idea)

    https://bit.ly/3Je5a6h

    A very joyful Christmas, or Happy Holidays to everyone, All my Best Wishes.

    in reply to: An Open Letter to Friends #95980
    Noirette
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    Huskynut, thank you, sums up much, great post.

    I sent it along to those who might read it (in English, etc.)

    in reply to: A Simple Christmas Message #95752
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    Snips from article in The Conservative Woman:

    —In 2001, Ferguson’s modelling of the foot-and-mouth disease outbreak influenced the UK government pre-emptively to cull well over 6 million animals at an estimated £10 billion cost to the economy. As a result, the farming community was utterly devastated, giving rise to more centralised power by the EU…..

    —In 2005 Ferguson claimed that up to 200 million people worldwide would die during the bird flu outbreak including up to 750,000 in the UK. This led to the stockpiling of Tamiflu in the UK from 2006; this was widely prescribed later in the swine flu pandemic. The WHO was able to link only 78 deaths worldwide to the bird flu virus.

    —In 2009, Imperial’s model led by Ferguson gave rise to the prediction of 65,000 deaths from swine flu in the UK; in fact only 457 deaths were linked to the virus. Based on Ferguson’s model, the government spent £1.2billion to prepare for the swine flu pandemic. As a result, more than 20 million unused doses of vaccine were left over.

    —Once more it was Ferguson’s ‘doomsday’ modelling prediction in the March 16, 2020 report from the Imperial College Covid-19 response team that gave the dire warning of  510,000 UK deaths by the end of May 2020 if the government continued with its ‘herd immunity’ response to the pandemic.

    Sage’s covert coup Part Two – Project Fear

    The ‘models’ are pure corporate propaganda, they aren’t even ‘junk’ science, as that might be contested. Advisory / regulatory boards, bodies, institutions (e.g. SAGE, FDA, SwissMedic, etc.) have been corrupted and taken over, how, why, yes, important topic, anyway the upshot is they no longer fulfill their mission. At all.

    In France (one ex.) the trad. structures have been ditched and a new advisory board was set up, in March 2020, a Scientific Council to advise the President, re. COV-19.

    Composed of 11 members who are ‘experts’ and come from all over academe / prof. med. – an expert in ‘social media’ (?!), a sociologist specialised in health economy, a modeller who studies the speed of transmission of the virus (!?), a GP, and epidemiologist, etc.

    These ppl have nothing in common and their meetings are role-play and posturing (imho.)

    One description of the Comité (in F)

    https://www.lefigaro.fr/sciences/coronavirus-qui-sont-les-experts-du-comite-scientifique-charge-de-conseiller-macron-20200313

    Their advisories, position papers, on various topics (in F, included for reference.)

    https://solidarites-sante.gouv.fr/actualites/presse/dossiers-de-presse/article/conseil-scientifique-covid-19

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 19 2021 #95744
    Noirette
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    Apologies for my copy-paste error and the chart which didn’t show…:)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 19 2021 #95665
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    Switzerland. The media is blaring about the deadly 5th wave.

    CH is at ‘wave’ three if one looks at deaths, not cases.

    Hyping the super dangerous Omicron (only 2 % (est.) of infections and zero deaths) plus … the hospitals are overwhelmed, and “almost all” planned surgeries have been cancelled!

    This chart below (from a main MSM newspaper site, based on Gvmt. data, correct, afaik) shows that CH has never had all its ICU beds filled, between 40% and (today) 20% empty beds.

    The interesting bit: see how the total % of occupied beds does rise over time, in a slow straight-line incrementation (I suspect that is because the no. of beds has been diminished – which is the case in France, for ex, closings continued during the ‘pandemic’ !) ..

    …The % of covid beds (pink) varies greatly within the total. When there is a lot of Covidians, all other patients needing intensive care drop dramatically, without being “chased away” by covid, so to speak, as there are always spare beds.

    Can covid-19 infections prevent or attenuate brain trauma, horribly burned patients, general sepsis, etc.? The answer would appear to be …no, except indirectly in case of strong ‘lockdown’ (CH, first ‘wave’, March 2020), as in such conditions, physical trauma — car crashes, mountain accidents — other..) sink to zero or almost. But, that is not enough to explain (imho) what one sees on the chart.

    Is there a sort of psycho-socio explanation, e.g. when Covidians are hogging beds, it is just ‘natural’ for it to be felt, agreed, without discussion, that some other patients don’t need the ICU? This might play a small role? Or do we explain this uniquely by over-diagnosis of Covid?

    My impression from this chart (and other nos. etc.) is that if so, the over diagnosis stretched beyond ‘respiratory illness’ (of any type, cause) and was deliberately engaged in by hospital staff (admins..)

    The CH Gvmt. ICU data for 17 dec shows USI (ICU) beds %: Covid 34, All other 48, Empty, the rest.

    Note, the nos. are minuscule, and % make no sense. For ex. Geneva Canton has a population of half a million ppl and 56 ICU beds, 15 of which are occupied by Covidians, 10 are empty, rest: Other.

    https://www.covid19.admin.ch/fr/hosp-capacity/icu

    Great Santa Stories bosco. 🙂 WES, I guess Santas are above all the ‘rules’? Maybe their ‘beard’ is as good as a ‘mask’? Who knows. Anyway here they are allowed to roam free in supermarkets… 🙂 by special dispensation, as all we pleb custo

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 18 2021 #95664
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    Great Santa Stories bosco. 🙂

    WES, I guess Santas are above all the ‘rules’? Maybe their ‘beard’ is as good as a ‘mask’? Who knows. Anyway here they are allowed to roam free in supermarkets… 🙂 by special dispensation, as all we pleb customers have to wear masks.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 18 2021 #95590
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    Bosco, to situate Santa Claus in the present, my experience Today was not good.

    Downtown on the street I was accosted by Him, and he asked me for money, a few francs ‘you can spare.’ He was a most convincing Santa, a true Santa, with worn out boots, much curly white hair, splendid red robes, and all. He was dragging a trolley or shopper or whatever the Eng. word is, with a fake reindeer head on it, antlers sagging. I gave.

    My second encounter was odder. In a supermarket in a mall, Santa sudenly loomed out from behind the tinned can / sauces section, Bonjour Madame Ma Chérie he seductively boomed, and approached me with open arms ready for a ginormous hug. I sort of side-stepped and wished him with screechy cheer (over the music which was playing Days of Pearly Spencer) Joyeux Noel! Which seemed like a nutty thing to say to Santa Claus.

    Then I went home and didn’t meet Santa C. again today. 🙂

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 17 2021 #95504
    Noirette
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    The Year of the New Normal Fascist. by CJ Hopkins.

    https://cjhopkins.substack.com/p/the-year-of-the-new-normal-fascistf

    A very good read. He blames “GloboCap” which I kind-a like.

    However it is very important to remember that while plots and “conspiracies”, well laid-out plans actually, aimed at surges of control, come from the top, the ppl who have the superior powers and means.

    —> It is generally the ‘middle’ masses below them, and many of the flunkeys, who go nuts and implement the harmful, discriminatory, and sometimes genocidal policies.

    They do so with attitudes that span a continuum from “just doing my job” or “going along to get along” (ostensibly avoiding any engagement), to “some group of ppl” (= today the unvaxxed) are hopeless, or downright dangerous, they need “correction” or “convincing” …or more.

    At the rabid end of the continuum one finds ppl who are palpitating, hyper keen, to use whatever they can muster, to oppress, control, harm, torture, and legitimately kill, others.

    Re. the Covid story, there isn’t much change from many past ones: restrictions (specially re. movement, travel, business and job opportunities and roles), fines, then camps, prison, denial of health care (in our times), being thrown out of society, deprived of xyz, e.g. food, see some EU supermarkets.., etc.

    The lower-level petty Kapos experience glee, or more intense *!!* emotions, shored up, justified, with moral considerations (“scum”, “only right to…”), when acting sadistically. Their impulses are an outcome of past submission to the powerful, coupled with a desire to please, bow down to, those more powerful than them, once again, while bashing those below. Nothing new, really.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 15 2021 #95416
    Noirette
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    WES interesting posts about mining etc. The last mine I visited (yes, nothing directly to do with the discussion about energy, though digging into the ground for coveted stuff is an age-old endeavour) was this one, in CH, salt mine in Bex. Very impressive, and interesting.

    link is to Eng site for tourists – some pix.

    https://www.myswitzerland.com/en-ch/experiences/salt-mines/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 15 2021 #95345
    Noirette
    Participant

    On “Boris’ Blunder” by Igor Chudov, prev. thread.

    https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/boris-johnsons-biggest-blunder

    A poor piece. Chudov de-constructs BoJo’s speech and shows some parts are correct, others are BS. Maybe that is useful in some context, for some ppl, idk?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59631570

    Boris is not just frazzled, he is desperate super frightened. He thought he could handle different strands and forces by ‘winging’ it (…dealing with sh*t as it turns up, and boosting (sic) his own image at every turn) but now he sees it ain’t so.

    While having to deal with COV-10 messaging he is forced to transmit, coming from other powers (Corps, finance..), he is under attack. By: Tory rebellion as ‘core values’ denied, eroded — Labour as scripted oppositional opportunists, others, etc.

    He is facing being kicked to the curb. An extra worry might be that his extremely poor performance doesn’t lead to a comfy ex-Premier posting at the IMF, World Bank, EU Commission (out), Big Corp, etc.

    In the vid. Boris does merely two things, if one strips away the fluff and frills. He paints Omicron as dangerous “an emergency…” … ”is doubling every 2 or 3 days” … ”a tidal wave of omicron coming” … And he urges, Go get the booster: “2 doses of vax are not enough..”. “a booster dose, we cant bring our level of protection back up..” etc. etc.

    That is what he has been forced, in some fashion (maybe just peer pressure) to do, and it goes against his bent which is “let the bodies pile up” and then wait and see. As he is not a smooth pol, but postures as a Maverick, he can’t handle the situation.

    Nigel Farage is back! Don’t know about the tv station that aired this, but here he is, talking to Arlene Foster, and making a big point about – why jab kids to protect others? … Adverse effects are mentioned briefly. See how scripted it all is…

    https://bit.ly/3dWW3bI (YouTube)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 12 2021 #95106
    Noirette
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    John Day, thx for the details re anthrax vax.

    Susmarie posted,

    De-growth. How will we do it? Can we do it? Will it work? Will we have time? Who knows! Seems to me that the important thing is to get started.

    De-growth (imho) will occur in the shape of forced adaptions. There will be privations, chaos, starvation, etc. etc. Today’s so-called supply chain disruptions are partly (largely?) due to production difficulties…raw materials and energy.

    A tale from Switz.

    Some ppl in CH have a “zero-growth” agenda – orginal greens, or left-wing greens. 1. CH has two green political parties, one on the left, and one center-right, which shows the green label isn’t worth much, or is a pretty fig-leaf..

    Nobody envisages deliberate de-growth, and CH is, amongst W countries (as huge users of natural ressources..) at the ‘more responsible’ end though one can question and ridicule the actions and measures used and state it all amounts to posturing, feel-good moves, etc. (E.g. recyling household “everything”..a complete waste of energy..)

    In 2008 Hannibal Kadafi (son of) and his wife were arrested in a Palace Hotel in Geneva, on the charge of beating and torturing two of their servants. Hannibal was thrown into prison (holding prison, very bad) and his wife, 9 months pregnant, was locked up in the cellular section of the Public Hospital.

    This created a frantic diplomatic storm as Kadafi Senior went batshit.

    He stated no more natural gas would be delivered to CH, and that CH should be wiped off the map, and divided up (to Italy, Germany, etc.) Now CH uses very little natgas (compare with Italy for ex. which is hugely dependent on Lybia, Algeria, and wood pellets..other story..) but still, this provoked a public discussion about what do we do if imports are cut…?

    It emerged that one part of the plan (CH has 20 year-plans, and Emergency Plans – I have participated in one 20 year thingie, not energy) is ‘doubling up.’

    In CH, 50% of energy (or thereabouts), all forms, is used in and for buildings, and that is without counting commercial, productive, or leisure activities (factories, gyms, watching TV..) within them. Just, building them, maintaining them, repairing, cleaning, heating and cooling them, providing hot and cold water, entry access.

    So, all residential and much ‘commercial’ RE would be ‘doubled’ up, forced to occupy 1/2 of previous space. Ppl would have to double up in flats, and some quarters / sections / territories would be abandoned, left to rot. As the ‘rot’ places would have to be grouped, and the ‘lived in’ places as well (to rationalise transport, amongst other considerations) it would create a territorial patchwork; ppl would have to move, or be forcibly moved. Many businesses would have to close.

    That would be the first step, to reduce energy use by X%. Though this was never discussed, food rationing would be needed (breakdown of transport amongst others..)

    Note: in 2020, the “emergency plans” in case of a pandemic were announced but never implemented, which kind of puts paid to any … plans … at all.

    Story –> The employees are OK. Diplo storms and appeasement (by Saif al Islam, another son, influential) and public excuses from CH for ‘illegal arrests’ etc. helped… wiki, rather bland, gives some of the highlights…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libya–Switzerland_relations

    1. they were originally to the left of the Socialists (not hard) but even beyond the Worker’s Party. They have changed.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 12 2021 #95028
    Noirette
    Participant

    On: Pentagon considering COVID booster mandate for all troops.

    Naively, one would think that the military / troops, mostly of strong young men, whose job it is to ‘defend’ the country, would not be subject to questionable, unproven, dodgy etc. medical procedures that might harm them and thus prevent them from performing optimally in their ordered actions.

    One precedent (USA):

    “The Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program (AVIP), is the name of the policy set forth by the U.S. federal government to immunize its military and certain civilian personnel with the BioThrax anthrax vaccine. It began in earnest in 1997 by the Clinton administration”…

    “Oct 28, 2004 (CIDRAP News) – The Department of Defense (DoD) has suspended its anthrax vaccination program in response to a federal court ruling that military personnel should not have to accept the shots against their will unless the president orders them to do so.”

    (>> top of goog.)

    There are many, many reports of bad effects of this vax, I don’t remember / know the details fully, topic on its own, others here surely know more.

    Anyway the US military, all ‘contractors’ – paid to serve – are basically treated like ‘low-level’ employees, expendable after stint, say. A great example of a large group that can be forced takers, or customers, for product Y, as ordered from above.

    So boost+++ Cov-vax for all troops is either a National self-defeating action or the outcome of top brass and Gvmt. authorities who deem the vax will protect the soldiers, staff. The latter is hard to believe..

    Another take: National armies no longer have much importance, wars are no longer fought between countries / regions by massive ground or -in the region- troops, as the attackers are everywhere, and the targets are right there at home on the doorstep (but see above, Biothrax.)

    Aka, the globalist elite against the plebs, plebs are far too numerous…

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 11 2021 #94983
    Noirette
    Participant

    For the archives > Amazing Predictions Shelf.

    Anthony Patch, 2013, video, 7 mins. Eng. w. F subs.

    “A man-made disease, called the MERS corona-virus…”

    https://crowdbunker.com/v/KJ78sdx7GH

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 11 2021 #94982
    Noirette
    Participant

    Here is the Pfizer report on Adverse events. (Forced disclosure, was prob. posted before? – anyways worth posting again.)

    BNT162b2 — 5.3.6 Cumulative Analysis of Post-authorization Adverse Event Reports.

    PDF. https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 11 2021 #94981
    Noirette
    Participant

    This site is attempting to track sport-men-women collapse and death on field.

    303 Athlete Cardiac Arrests, Serious Issues, 175 Dead, After COVID Shot

    This study appears to show that BS detectors re corona come from two ends of the educational curve: down below and at the top. (USA) .. which seems comprehensible…

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/americans-with-phds-are-most-reluctant-to-get-vaccinated-against-covid/ar-AANjRHh

    The uncensored contract between Pfizer and the EU has been leaked and can be read here (PDF)

    https://gboulianne.files.wordpress.com/2021/12/contrat-ue-pfizer-non-censure.pdf

    via WIKI STRIKE – in F – https://bit.ly/3oLjcnT

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 10 2021 #94889
    Noirette
    Participant

    On: The geogaphies of the Pharma Genocide, by Toby Rogers.

    https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/the-geographies-of-the-pharma-genocide

    Yes. Right on.

    However, the piece is not about geography at all, and doesn’t address (one ex.), the fact that NZ, Austr., China, others geogr. close have seemingly been ‘successful’ (more or less for now) in stopping COV19 devastation with *draconian* lock-downs and ‘social’ strictures, passes, etc. policies; or just doing not too much of anything (Vietnam) – rough obviously.

    That geography is v. important, see the contrast w. the Northern hemisphere. The reasons are hard to tease out and imho have to do with the spread of COV before it became a ‘pandemic’ (OK, who knows?) and ppl having antibodies or not. Just one idea.

    Crucial, from the piece:

    This is the first simultaneous *global* genocide.

    coupled with

    This is the first example of totalitarianism without nationalism.

    Yes.

    (the other points, e.g. the genocide is privatized, is monetized, that is standard, genocide is usually implemented to usurp ressources, land, treasures, and private bodies play a huge role..)

    —> World Elites, or the PTB, or whatever one wants to call them, have joined together to protect their dominant, controlling interests, as globalists, which means that (many) Nations or ‘countries’ no longer run themselves, but are taken over by ‘top’ ppl, aka external ‘powers.’ For some time now, imho.

    For ex. Macron is not a genuine (whatever) ‘leader’ of France, he is a more like a low-level functionary coordinating various impulses, aims, desired policies, etc. by ppl above him, and ALSO below him (through media prop, rage at restrictions and drive for universal vaxxes, and other resistance..) — an actor on the stage.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 5 2021 #94438
    Noirette
    Participant

    From top post, re.

    “Ursula Van Der Leyen, the head of the EU commission, told the press on Wednesday that she is in favour of scrapping the long-standing Nuremburg Code and forcing people to get vaccinated against COVID.”

    https://thepostmillennial.com/eu-chief-nuremberg-code

    Some ppl are suggesting that COV19 will contribute to, spur and ultimately lead to the break-up of the EU. (Maybe. Big topic. Certainly, the overall geo-political stakes are high.)

    Ursula v. d. Liar is qualified as Med. Doc, and has occupied many top posts in German Gvmt, such as Minister of Defense.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_von_der_Leyen

    She is married to Heiko von der Leyen, also a Med. Doc.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heiko_von_der_Leyen

    Since December 2020, he is Medical Director of the US biotech company Orgenesis which is specialized in cell and gene therapies.

    See the Company pub site, https://orgenesis.com/#/

    > .. and that is just from Wikipedia that often hides much stuff.

    Von der Leyen bought from Pfizer, negotiated with A. Bourla (CEO Pfizer), Cov19 vax doses for many, many billions of Euros, the sum is so large “I can’t even” as is often said. Don’t have solid nos. or proof of that, but accounts must be available somewhere.

    Note, neither health insurance cos., med. facilities, or ppl on the ground pay anything for the vax. (In most of Europe, the bill is paid by Gvmts, bang off, no questions, no negotiations, that I have ever heard of or seen hinted at.)

    So.. Who signed the contracts to buy the vaxxes? How, when, was that done? Where can one see the contracts? Where are the vaxxes made, how many factories, where are they, who works there, what? What are the inputs to the factories?

    How does the delivery and shipping go? Who delivers (drives on land) from where to where? Under what protocols, strictures? (Temperature? Handling? Safety? Handling at the point of jabbing?) We are talking billions of doses!

    It is possible (I tested this out a few years ago) to track the production of yoghurt, manufacture, packaging, transport, sale etc. in the EU. It is wearisome and not too interesting, and basically shows that transport costs are HUGE. (E.g the UK exports a lot of yogs. and imports a lot too..)

    But what’s up with these mystery vaxxes?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 4 2021 #94371
    Noirette
    Participant

    A wonderful Magritte, relevant to the present.

    The ocean, the sea, beach, sand, the planet itself, slosh, slosh, turn, turn. The trees, life, vegetation, a main ressource, and last, the man-built environment, stones chiselled, piled up and soldered, glass, slate, and all the rest, see the chimney (so wood can be burnt), a place for humans to shelter, posture, dominate.

    trees > deforestation all over (see Roman Empire.)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 3 2021 #94369
    Noirette
    Participant

    Mr House, thx for the recent post from Ugo Bardi at the Seneca Effect, a v.good and short read.

    —> the link again, https://thesenecaeffect.blogspot.com/

    Re. the NZ Gvmt money to the MSM, let’s call her Fascinda!

    Note in France the MSM print has been supported by Gvmt. stipends for a long time -I have no precise figures to hand-, and accredited “” journalists “” get various perks, like a blanket tax reduction.. Ha ha..

    my parents – VAPORS, how could I forget, 🙂

    upstateNY, thx, a last entry is missing imho, ‘dull-witted / incompetent / hyped up’ Gvmts (partly because of corruption)… or something like that, it might be a favorable, hopey, interpretation because it would mean an overturn is possible.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 3 2021 #94327
    Noirette
    Participant

    One remark on the table posted up-top, from:

    Leaked Pfizer Post-Marketing Safety Report

    https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/leaked-pfizer-post-marketing-safety

    The table shows a large majority of reports re. women:

    Out of a total of 42 K, 29.9 K = say 30, concerned women. (= rough, 70%.)

    9 K concerned men, and the ‘no data’ slot (which highlights the shodiness of the data, no sex, no age, etc.) is 2.99 K, say 3.

    So what’s up with that?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 3 2021 #94324
    Noirette
    Participant

    Witnessing the beginning of the end of an era, namely the existence of – ‘democratic’ – ‘Western’ societies.. is fascinating and terrifying…

    Below a list of commonly mentioned ‘causes’ of the COV19 disaster.

    Obviously some of them have an ‘inevitable’ and ‘out of control of humans’ feel. Others clearly rest on secret plots, conspiracies, planned by relatively restricted cabals.

    Some are in-between, recall that no matter what is going on, some ‘leaders’, groups, sections of society such as businesses, Corps, professional associations, ‘political’ groups, etc., will jump on board because they aim to exploit the crisis for their own ends, confident of success, they see an opportunity for gains in power, riches, image.

    Others join because of the general movement, and yet others sign on (or at least never oppose) because they fear extinction, exclusion, irrelevance.

    These ‘causes’ or states-of-affairs are to be taken as direct or contributory, are not mutually exclusive, can be mixed up together, like spices in a stew.

    — Late-Stage Capitalism (imbalances, over-exploitation, etc.)

    — Economy (in the ‘West’) about to implode, usual reason, massive, unpayable, debt

    — Winding down of the glorious Fossil Fuel Energy Age (energy crunches, peaks, failures, infrastructure broken, supply lines affected, etc.)

    — Death of Empire, of the USA, as following on from the Brits, no will to admit, bend, negotiate

    —Collapse of too-complex Societies. A widget in the works and things fail, ppl go nuts

    — Engineered die-off, depopulation. Humans as the ultimate destroyers of the natural world, have to be ‘culled’, here, global warming comes in often

    — Creating a Global dictatorship under a ‘medical’ guise to deal with all the present problems and fulfill many aims at once

    — Religious, esoteric, magical readings and prophecies, end times of various kinds

    — Other …

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 2 2021 #94243
    Noirette
    Participant

    Ilargi thx for the link to the Lancet paper, hadn’t seen it, sent it on to 7 ppl, docs and the like.

    The Lancet still has a lot! of cred.

    Refering to UK Gvmt. stats and those of Israeli Gvmt, re.: vaxxed cases infected, taking into account the % of the age group vaxxed which show that vaxxed // unvaxxed is similar … cuts no ice, if shown to docs, med researchers, etc. here (Switz.)

    Anecdotal: grand sample of 4 ppl.

    They say, why should I trust the the UK Gvmt? Or the Israelis? The Isr. Gvmt. is loathed >> Palestine. The UK has a horrible image: Bojo the clown, liar, creep, highest cases in Europe, no longer in the club, etc.

    oxy, thx for that post.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 1 2021 #94139
    Noirette
    Participant

    Switzerland. New measures “which were not planned but are now necessary due to OMICRON – This is Realpolitik!” (approx. quote from Guy P., they guy who is prez. of the Confederation.)

    Slow Squeeze: Validity of the Cov PASS via rapid antigen test, halved, from 48 hours to 24. Via CPR test goes to 48 hour validity.

    — Other measures concern masks, large gatherings, sports, work-place rules, remote work, etc.

    Limit for private gatherings: 11 people, and all must be certified, anointed, by a Cov PASS.

    Joyeux Noel! Buon Natale! Frohe Weihnachten!

    At the Press Conference a journo asked: “Who is going to control this?”

    The Fed. Councillor in charge of Health answered:

    “Grandma!” The audience howled with laughter.

    —> Not the good kind imho.

    Why 11 I wondered? Looks like horse-trading, 25, 15, no 10, no 6 at most!, etc. 🙂

    in F, MSM news: https://bit.ly/3DcsXzp

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 30 2021 #94078
    Noirette
    Participant

    No Vax, No Food/Fuel in India – Food Withheld to Force Vaccinations

    ??

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