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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle November 23 2024 #175126
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    Docktor, measure the pond, reduce the word count and join the community
    Goodness gracious bro, they put up with me. There’s room

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 23 2024 #175121
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    Trump – Waltz – Cotton – The Rape of Decency
    Grenell – Ambassador to Germany while Mutti, King Macron and The Blonde Blowjob were buying time and arming Ukraine? At the same time taking the position Ukraine should not be accepted into NATO.
    Another anti-Iran Israel first demon. Another wicked messenger.

    Bessent – “..work to create an economy that places growth at the forefront, especially through our coming world energy dominance..”
    WORLD ENERGY DOMINANCE – what else do you need to know?
    “growth at the forefront”- debt is the largest component of the US GDP – DOGE and Treasury at odds

    stasis – the definition from stability theory
    make America Dalit

    “gonna lay around the shanty, mama
    and put a good buzz on” – Jonathan Edwards

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 22 2024 #175083
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    if i were Mr. Matt Gaetz i would hang my shingle and advertise to be legal representative of vaccine injured.
    “I may have gotten a little coochie but I can get you $ Millions!

    would personally enjoy a resigning representative from my congressional district doing something noble. I speak of course in reference to that paragon of worthless existence Mr. Infomercial, Morning Joe.

    I would even advise Mr. Gaetz to choose Mannish Boy by Mr. Mckinley Morganfield as the background music for his commercials.
    I’m a man
    Spell M-A child -N
    That represents man
    No B-O child -Y
    That mean mannish boy
    I’m a man
    I’m a full grown man
    I’m a man
    I’m a natural born lovers man
    I’m a man child
    I’m a rollin’ stone
    I’m a man child
    I’m a hoochie coochie man
    Mick and Muddy to the rescue!

    Lorenz attractor, namely that tiny changes in initial conditions evolve to completely different trajectories.

    I would also advise 47 to make a video to be released on January 19, 2025. Mr. 47 doing the YMCA dance to Johnny Lang “Lie to Me” in front of a montage of “Tony Fauci, Bob Redfield, Deborah “chicken gizzard covered by my silk kerchief” Birx, Scott “the Antichrist” Gottlieb, Albert “Pfizer” Bourla and Robinette Biden” interspersed with collages of words and the faces of those who called to punish the unvaccinated.

    credit D Rich for the euphemesims and zerosum for the mathematical reference

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 22 2024 #175075
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    Joe Rogan, former Green Beret Evan Hafer

    don’t think these two understand the volume of NATO weaponry which is available on the black market. Can you spell Afghanistan or Ukraine? Do they understand the size and scope of the cartel’s markets? Does not seem they understand a deep state is not the sole perogative of the United States.
    They certainly do not understand that the profit generated by the cartels are more than likely laundered and managed through a CIA front financial institution or a consortium that has purchased mercenary protection from State or National banking institutions.

    They certainly do not understand organized crime syndicates within the United States will hunt them down and take them off the map. A single front engagement with close air support is not what will be encountered.
    Have these gentlement given any thought the the legacy of the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation (WHINSEC)? Who would the peoples of Central American hate more the cartels or any presence of the US military? The hearts and minds phantasy, fancy, fantasy should have been extinguished in Iraq.
    does DJT understand that without implicit invitation from the internationally recognized governments of Central America and the northern regions of South America he would be at war with those nations?

    This ain’t The UFC Donald and Joe.
    Making coffee for the CIA ain’t making sound foreign policy.

    How many human lives have Union Caribide, Monsanto or Bayer been willing to end to protect their profits? Go anywhere on the street in the US and you can find heroin, cocaine and MDMA laced with fentanyl. On every street there is someone willin to risk murdering a stranger to put a dime in their pocket. The entrepreneur on the street don’t know what’s in the medicine Johnny’s cooking up in the basement, and neither does the customer.

    and last but not least what percentage of the money being dispersed for FEMA by the nonprofits is creating fronts for the drug trade?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 22 2024 #175067
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    understatement can be used powerfully in making valid points:

    I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer or the brightest bulb in the chandelier but, isn’t the question can any NATO nation in western Europe could defend itself against the type of weapon used against the missle factory more important than what type of weapon was used?

    thumbnail – a Patriot system has sixteen missles more than sixteen projectiles struck the target

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 22 2024 #175056
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    “We are entrepreneurs, not politicians. “We will serve as outside volunteers, not federal officials or employees. Unlike government commissions or advisory committees, we won’t just write reports or cut ribbons. We’ll cut costs.”

    “Our nation was founded on the basic idea that the people we elect run the government. That isn’t how America functions today. Most legal edicts aren’t laws enacted by Congress but “rules and regulations” promulgated by unelected bureaucrats—tens of thousands of them each year.”

    “… a newly formed Department of Government Efficiency…”
    A master of cognizant dissonance.

    a moniker is required for the DOGE boys; Barnum and Bailey will do. This is going to be a circus.
    These two assholes plan to My Lai The Constitution.

    3 U.S. Code § 302 – Scope of delegation of functions
    Like all federal public officials, Cabinet members are also subject to impeachment by the House of Representatives and trial in the Senate for “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors”.
    You cannot be a little pregnant. You cannot act under the authortiy of the Executive Branch and not be subject Article II of The Constitution with the checks and balances of Article I and Article III.

    Beggars Mounted

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 21 2024 #175016
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    now for the politics:
    RFK Jr., Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswammy and Donald J. Trump will NOT have a national security clearance at the level of unlimited “need to know”. One of those four is astute enough to say he didn’t understand the system. The other three believe to the core of their being they understand the juggernaut. Two of the four seem believe they are incarnations of Vishnu and should be worshiped as jagannath.
    for those enjoying the exhilaration of irrational exuberance. enjoy your endocannabinoid elation

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 21 2024 #175015
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    John Day there was a time when humans thought in terms of great grandchildren

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 21 2024 #175014
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    Brave and calm men.

    go to smoothie’s for video of the MIRVed response

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 21 2024 #175013
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    D Rich keep leaving bread crumbs bro

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 21 2024 #174995
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    Germ thank you for the link to the rintrah site.
    “You don’t get a gold star for living in a shithole and surviving” – linked video

    ” It is essentially a civilization-ending event that most people just want to forget about.” –
    “You made an intervention in a complex system and it didn’t work.” –

    “Yeah everyone has this wheezing cough that’s not bacterial that you need inhalers for, perfectly normal.” – linked video

    The girl and boy geniuses at the Pentagon understand one thing, kissing ass to get ahead. The entire structure of the Army was codified with the Officer Personnel Act of 1947 revised with the Defense Officer Personnel Management Act (DOPMA) of 1980 which was edited in 2019. The command structure of the United States mirrors the university tenure system and the publish or perish dynamic within that structure. The most talented upwardly mobile ass kisser in the Pentagon barely understands the microcosm within which they strive. Understand the human immune system? Not a chance. Was the command structure capable of understanding any DARPA intiative? Does the command structure of the US military accept any limitations on it’s actions? Not no, Hell No. Does that structire see itself limited by treaty or international convention? The dissemination and use of Cluster munitions and white phosphorous weapons answers that question quite plainly. Has the US command structure ever found cause to restrict the use of chemical weapons? Absolutely Not. Let Operation Paperclip be your guide. Where there is smoke look for fire. Allegations of chemical and biological agents in North Korea by US forces 1951.

    March 21, 2020 – “We’re in a live exercise here” – guess who

    The symptoms being ascribed to the innoculation with the gene therapy does not apply only to the innoculated. Most of the “at risk” in western populations do not know what good health is. Populations who have never exercised, present discomforts attibutable to poor diet receive chemical components to mask the symptons and have no experience of the natural human aging process are the base of life insurance actuarial tables. What i see is that effects of infection with the virus are long lasting and taken by many in the “at risk” population as normal effects of aging. People who have not been healthy in their adult life are just accepting the malaise as normal.

    Detoxing after infection is slow enough that the damge is done. Using the suggested protocol non-stop for almost four years now has slowed the effects of infection, description available to those who will look, not stopped them. Watching the deterioration of your third most prized possesion is not for the faint of heart. ” It is essentially a civilization-ending event that most people just want to forget about.”

    Germ it is not only those who received the gene therapy that are raped. Whatever your perspective on current events, the command structure of the US Armed Forces has been in pursuit of chemical and biological weapons since WWI. The same command structure has utilized such weapons many times. Don’t even try the “not us” bullshit. The design, manufacture, packaging and delivery to the region of use were controlled and implemented by the US Command Structure.
    everything else aside: an event that alters the human immune system on a global level alters human evolution. Altering human evolution will alter human DNA. Alter any part of a species defining adaptive process and you have altered the species. Whether the mRNA crosses the barrier into a cell’s nucleus ia a moot point. The social structure has been altered, isolation, overhaul of the work interface, the glorification of antisocail behavior and the immune response has been regulated. Human evolution has been modified in pursuit of unprovoked agression. The perpetrators not only do not understand they revel in their abandon.
    We are truly fucked.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 20 2024 #174936
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    is the correct interpretation of your post @ 174913 that you have falsified the double slit experiments?
    or perhaps overcome the uncertainty principle?
    You do understand the time dilation problem that has to be overcome to make a GPS position accurate.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 20 2024 #174909
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    For those not fortunate to have fundamentalist, non-denominational bible readers and adherants to the old testament among their loved ones you are truly without a large piece of the puzzle. There is a tsunami of predeterminist thought washing across the fruited plains. The denominations The Presbyterian Church in America, The United Reformed Churches in America and the fundamentalist Baptists are Calvinist without reservation. The concept that the saved are called to be saved and only those names that have been in the book of life for eternity will reap the blessings of The Gospel is being firmly cemented into place in the thoughts of a growing number of the elect.

    The doctrine of a New Covenant is being quietly ushered into the dustbin of theological history. There is a now a plethora of masters of cognizant dissonance. The once saved always saved who have been eternally among the elect and confess that Jesus died on the cross to redeem those without blemish are in ascendancy. There is the reformed theology that the entire creation fell and remains fallen.
    Difficult as it is to bring into the light of logic it can be thought, “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.” 2 Corinthians, 5:21 and simultaneouly state Salvation is predetermined.

    This group of human beings are not going to change. They did not vote for change. They are the righteous calling for The Hand of Justice to smite the wicked. The fallen world is not and will not be redeemed.

    Let your humor and derogatory thoughts be short lived. There is a very strong possiblity perhaps leading to certainty that you too are among the elect. In defense of brevity i offer you manifest destiny and the dogma emmanting from the cathedral of capitalism ‘The American way of life is not up for negotiations. Period.’ (Pope George the Lessor)

    Secular fundamentalist predetermination is the mainstay of thought in The United States at this moment. The only divergence of thought is in deciding who is to be sacrificed on the altar of expediency. The name that can be named, Profit, will bless the righteous and smite the wicked.
    Penury, the proof of the fallen and sinful. Penury, as accurate in determining guilt as the dunking chair.

    Little matter which lapel pin is worn, christian, jew, muslim or hindu, pick one from the cornucopia filled with hypocrisy, a secular predeterminist will not modify themself in any way. The church of secular fundamentalist predeterminism will, in a loud voice from the pews, call for perdition to be rained down upon the unredeemable and peccant. Having made the sign of the dollar with a hand dipped in the holy water of conceit they will call it a day.

    DOGE
    amen

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 20 2024 #174891
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    aspnaz your line “the idea that Trump and his merry men can fix the US government in 4 years is ludicrous;” puts us on the same page once again.
    The citizens of the US cannot even find out what is already done in four years.
    Where we differ is at the point of what is hopeless.
    The majority of the US population we agree on, hopelessly uniformed and revelling in their ignorance.
    In the hands of informed self governing men The Consititution of The United States is a tool of hope.

    “A well informed citizenry is the best defense against tyranny.” ~ Thomas Jefferson
    “The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.” ~ Thomas Jefferson
    “The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

    my bet is only those who will change themselves have a future, the west faces under population

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 20 2024 #174881
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    i don’t think the daring men with epaulettes on their shoulders and scrambled eggs on their caps understand what it means to be a soldier in a war with a global front

    more than certain the same crop of idiots do not understand electronic information gathering

    the name that can be named is not the eternal name
    and from that source come
    Brave and calm men

    word for the day: incredulous – Skeptical; disbelieving.
    use in a sentence
    The face of the incredulous can be seen on the visage of a broad range of media pundits, the look of one skeptical; disbelieving of the current turn of events.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 20 2024 #174876
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    kudos to Kunstler

    we await the dildo of consequences
    73.9%
    “seldom lubed”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 20 2024 #174875
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    looks like we have found what the market will bear(bare)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 19 2024 #174866
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    some days this place is more fun than an issue of Bijou Funnies
    on a more subtle note from Zap Comix
    “Where will it end?”
    “In the grave my boy, in the grave.” – Mr. Natural

    if the joos had told you who they were voting for would you have voted for Kackles?
    damned if you do, damned if you don’t – Eretz Yisrael

    Once being the Antithesis Outlier becomes normative one finds out what being in the catbird seat is really all about. The art of the game is to find someone on the inside and confide in them how deeply you wish you were part of the crowd. All one has to do then is watch and the crowd measures the pond for you. Add a little feigned angst and watch em go Spinal Tap and turn it up to eleven.
    True Cynicism is an acquired taste, mutch like Scotch, and can lead to Stoicism if properly managed.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 19 2024 #174822
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    i guess there is something to be said for becoming wealthy by being the most efficient and cost effective at doing things that don’t need to be done. Starlink – $599 upfront hardware, $120 per month.
    DSL on a phone line $55 – $75 per month basic service.

    “…….Biden’s Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre dismissing them as “cheap fakes.” – fully qualified to make that judgement.

    “if we still had Afghanistan to launder money through…..” queue the videos of US troops patrolling poppy fields
    “if we still had Afghanistan to launder money through…..” we could use the fentanyl as a targeted social weapon.more efficiently

    “…the Turkish leader would suggest freezing the conflict….” wonder if he meant freeze dried and packaged with a portable heater sealer – did suggest a ten year shelf life

    Mister Roboto – Ticker Guy?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 19 2024 #174817
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    “Trump cannot lose the war in Ukraine unless he can present peace as an accomplishment.” PCR

    “There are two kinds of forecasters: those who don’t know, and those who don’t know they don’t know.” ~ John Kenneth Galbraith
    “The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.” ~ John Kenneth Galbraith

    “Mr. David Stockman has said that supply-side economics was merely a cover for the trickle-down approach to economic policy — what an older and less elegant generation called the horse-and-sparrow theory: If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows.” ~ John Kenneth Galbraith

    and who still defends supply side economics?
    “When everything else failed, we can still become immortal by making an enormous blunder.” ~ John Kenneth Galbraith
    “Trump cannot lose the war in Ukraine unless he can present peace as an accomplishment.” PCR

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 19 2024 #174793
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    Machiavelli – 1469-1527
    Martin Luther – 1483-1546
    Francis Bacon – 1551-1626

    Extolling the virtues of modern warfare.
    Four hundred and ninety seven years since Machiavelli’s death, three hundred ninety eight years since Bacon’s death.
    Lawyers and Money
    Religious Materialism
    Technologically advanced, ignorant lesser apes.

    Now go out and get yourself some thick black frames
    With the glass so dark, they won’t even know your name
    And the choice is up to you ’cause they come in two classes
    Rhinestone shades or cheap sunglasses – Frank, Hill Gibbons

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 19 2024 #174791
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    Dr Rich i posted my thank you late yesterday. Once again, thank you for your reply.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 18 2024 #174775
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    thank you Dr. D Rich. Nerve agent has not been part of the conversation recently.
    More to learn and synthesize. A good day!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 18 2024 #174757
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    Seventy-Three
    A brave and passionate man will kill or be killed.
    A brave and calm man will always preserve life.
    Of these two which is good and which is harmful?
    Some things are not favored by heaven. Who know’s why?
    Even the sage is unsure of this.

    The Tao of heaven does not strive, and yet it overcomes.
    It does not speak and yet it is answered.
    It does not ask, yet is supplied with all it’s needs.
    It seems at ease, and yet it follows a plan.

    Heaven’s net cast wide.
    Though it’s meshes are coarse, nothing slips through.

    ATACMS into Kursk

    A brave and passionate will use fission weapons against the innocent
    A brave and calm man would debilitate SATCOM and Starlink

    When the blind lead the blind they both fall into the ditch.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 18 2024 #174756
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    Dr D Rich help. The best i can come up with concerning your post concerning Pilocarpine and atropine is some type of regulation of auto immune disorders. Priming for auto immune disfunction and then testing for regulation? The administration of behavior modification compounds that would facilitate risky behaviors in certain populations leading to exposure to gain of function microbes?

    your angling technique moved the bait just so

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 18 2024 #174744
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    aspnaz, “Fight the good fight, that is all we can do. We may lose, but we will be better for the fight.”
    Yes
    Being wrong to the point just short of being discouraged and asking the next question. The narrow path.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 18 2024 #174740
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    there is one thought that, from this frame of reference, must not be given voice. Simply put there is a relationship between fission and entanglement. The universe itself knows that a thermo nuclear conflagration would alter the fabric of the universe in ways that cannot be calculated. The effects of thousands of fission reactions would be immediate and not in any sense local. A little knowledge is a dangerious thing, more so than is within the ken of most.

    There is the observation problem. The observation problem cannot be overcome. In the event that any experiment is being simultaneously considered anywhere in the universe the measurement is influenced by both observers; and anyone who knows the experiment is being undertaken and a measurement is anticipated.

    Donne had a much deeper insight than those who study literature understand. There is no island.
    In the event humanity is not completely destroyed in a nuclear exchange the universe will finish the job. Our history will become no more than a errant observation, a failed hypothesis.

    Human beings who cannot even begin to make an argument against locality or even make a reference to hiddent variables are certain they are capable of making decisions for all of humanity. What is your view? Does the waveform collapse? How many particles does it take to make a coherent system?
    Do you really take the advice of somone who’s specialty is money. Money which is a purely human mental construct that arbitrarily assigns something as nebulous as value? Ah yes, it is profitable. Profit, that which must not be shared.

    i cannot take myself seriously and you think i should take you seriously? Hegseth and Rubio think The Russian Federation, China and Iran are each less than Grenada. 79 years and 3 months since this parade began, a little fission to sweep the street as the last idea floats away.

    Ignorance is skin deep, stupid is to the bone.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 18 2024 #174715
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    aspnaz the undisputed maxim of western society is “Only That Which Can Be Touched and Measured is Real”. This concept is seemingly an insurmountable barrier. The forefront of thought about the nature of our experience demands that consciousness cannot be elementary but must be causal because it cannot be touched of measured. The easiest and most crass way of stating the mind set is There Is No Truth. There is no truth becasue there is no particle that would carry that principle.

    All that i know about the current state of television is what i see as i pass through the living room in this residence. What i do know about the influence of the televised material is from the world view of the other residents here. The obviously staged and outlandish behavior is taken as real. The singers whose voice is digitally manipulated cannot accurately produce the notes of the tempered scale yet are fawned over as wonderfully talented. The camera angles used and rapid succession of camera cuts when ever there are human bodies in motion produce a subliminal coherency that does not exist.

    The point that Tucker Carlson makes in the video above, to my understanding, is accurate and is reflected in all aspects of modern experience. McCluhan’s statement “The news automatically becomes the real world for the TV user and is not a substitute for reality, but is itself an immediate reality” is now applicable to all media. The new is the focus of all media, it is the news. Here in this residence the attention moves from the news, the flashing subliminal messaging, to replays of modern crafted situation life play. Nothing vaguely resembling the world visible through a window and glass sliding door is given any attention at all.

    My simple view is that the human condition is so terrifying that the mass of humanity in western culture will do even the most obscene to avoid looking across the abyss. The James Webb Telescope is bringing us information about size and distance that was impoosible to even consider before Penzias and Wilson’s investigation. The response seems to be that this solar system is all that matters and going to Mars will somehow restore our humanity.
    To my mind you are seeing accurately. A manufactured reality is the reality for most. I will leave you with another McCluhan observation. The heroism of effort has evaporated.

    “The ordinary person senses the greatness of the odds against him even without thought or analysis, and he adapts his attitudes unconsciously. A huge passivity has settled on industrial society. For people carried about in mechanical vehicles, earning their living by waiting on machines, listening much of the waking day to canned music, watching packaged movie entertainment and capsulated news, for such people it would require an exceptional degree of awareness and an especial heroism of effort to be anything but supine consumers of processed goods.”
    Marshall McLuhan

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 17 2024 #174595
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    “..numerous Ukrainian officials – as well as their backers in the West – have proposed that Kiev lower the draft age even further..”
    Trump Team To Write Off ‘Project Ukraine’ as Sunk Cost – Analyst (Sp)
    They don’t feel “invested” in propping up Zelensky’s corrupt regime in the same way that the current Biden administration does, according to the analyst.(Sp)

    eventually the cost in human life will be known.

    “We are barely ten days into the realization of what just transpired and the entire lay of the land seems different, like a tectonic shift in politics, culture, mood, and possibilities..”(Jeffrey A. Tucker)

    except for the fear mongering. China, China, China – Iran, Iran, Iran
    the largest terroist organization on the planet complaining they are being targeted. No Shit Sherlock?
    for those not following the UAP theater – The National Security, The National Security, The National Security.
    when the curtain comes down and the brick wall is revealed the blood on the hands of every citizen of The United States over the age of twelve will also be revealed.

    “we’re going to go where evidence leads” – “no matter what”
    wanna bet that those good ole boys personal comfort is not part of the “no matter what”
    Alex Jones and Steve Bannon put their ass on the line. where were the two righteous warriors in the video above for the last three years and ten months? Couldn’t find a alt media outlet?

    Hawking Radiation is part of the understanding of black holes. My experience is that no information leaks out of the eyes of the majority of US citizens eyes.
    America’s Got Talent and they are Dancing With The Stars and they are mass consumers of televised perversion.
    On second thought Hawking Radiation might be involved. Look at our families, the perverse information going into the eyes must be leaking out into the family environment.

    “No other offense has ever been visited with such severe penalties as seeking to help the oppressed.” ~ Clarence Darrow
    “The law does not pretend to punish everything that is dishonest. That would seriously interfere with business.” ~ Clarence Darrow

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 16 2024 #174526
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    Touchdown for Tuberville

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 15 2024 #174465
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    Dr D you do not understand guerilla warfare.
    or honor, or duty, or the cost to humanity of iniquity
    A reenacatment of the The Miller’s Tale! I shall be Absolom..

    Your arguments carry all of the weight of a Littoral Combat Ship.
    Would it be a bridge to far for you to provide a summary list of your publications and a list of your appearances on The Lame Stream Media.
    We know you are right, you tell us everyday. Show and tell, pahdnah, not tell and tell

    Name one time the US consensus was correct and China and Russia were defeated or even thwarted.
    (The seeds of our consensus concering Afghanistan were planted in 1988 and bore fruit in April 2021.)
    Start with Korea in 1950 and let Ukraine in 2025 end the challenge.
    Ah the nostalgia for that time when we would stop Sino-Soviet agression in Southeast Asia.
    and a moment of silence in memory of the graduates of The School of The Americas

    Post a number representing the cost to restore the Rust Belt to full capacity. Name the capital management firms that will make thirty year investments in infrastructure. Name one thing that has been positive in the US economy since T Boone Pickens started corporate raiding. Define the difference between venture capitalism, leeches and blood letting. Are you suggesting a Marshall Plan for the United States? Put a number on the total liability of the derivatives market. Present a method to assuage the cascading horror of margin calls in the event of a 20% market correction.
    Soap on a rope, go to usdebtclock – org

    Percentage of state revenue supplied by US federal government:
    Louisiana 52.27%
    Hawaii 27.13%
    Overall 20% of state revenue from federal sources.
    Government Employees 2023 (millions):
    Federal – 2.93
    State, Local – 19.58
    Only 15% of government employment is by the federal government.
    The Department of Labor request for Employment and Training FY2024 $11,826,658,000
    Worker Protection Agencies Budget FY2024 $2,314,412,000
    Deficit Funded?
    How will any increase in unemployment compensation and job training costs not lead to increased deficit spending?
    Please explain how removing two trillion dollars of life support from the economy will
    increase revenue
    decrease interest payments
    increase GDP
    increase total worker compensation
    Reduce the DoD budget
    increase private sector employment
    brighten The Non Farm Payroll reports

    Throw millions of US citizens, who followed their self interest, to the curb to satisfy the self interest of a bunch of teat sucking parasites who should take care of themself?
    More efficient at what? Class warfare.
    Increased efficiency in murdering widows and children?
    A moron with a PHD is, you guessed it, a moron with a PHD
    and who has been in charge of building the consensus? Kissinger’s experts and morons with PHDs
    expert – has been drip under pressure
    Does not take a rocket surgeon to know who’s lunch is going to get eaten.

    Name one productive allocation of capital provided by the asset markets, One will be enough.
    A non-productive service economy remains a non-productive service economy until ouroboros is complete.

    You say you lost your faith
    but that’s not where it’s at
    You had no faith to lose
    and you know it
    ……………………………….
    Positively 4th Street

    “you have to be asleep to believe it” – Carlin

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 15 2024 #174447
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    scientific materialist technocratic hedonism – bless yo heart

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    Matt Gaetz, Elon Musk, Mike Huckabee, Pete Hegseth
    fundamentalist talmudic christian zionism
    romantic transhumanist obsession
    “those who bless genocide will be blessed” – Mars

    Constantine I 325 AD
    2025
    1700
    let the numerology begin

    never read any part of The Ramayana, The Tao or any Rumi and know everything about reality
    all of human history prior to the Industrial Revolution myth and fable
    “We built this city on Rock and Roll” – Starship

    nano fabric turfing – and it’s not even green

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    D Rich, the 1963 coup in Vietnam is another example of honorable men being sacrificed. Protests were anticipated following the CIA coup that deposed Diem. A squad was formed to put down the expected protests. The men that were sent to end the protests were successful in carrying out their mission and training. Their reward was ignomy. I was twelve, i will never forget the riots in Saigon. Or the burning monk.
    Spoiled weak boys sending honorable men to destruction.
    Here we go again.

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    jb-hb imagine one were to point out the The Enlightenment was planted, sprouted and bloomed in the middle of the Spanish Inquistion. Let someone suggest that the purpose of The Enlightenment was to produce a managerial class that would be amoral enough to not question the human cost of the bounty being extracted from the new world. Consider that now almost the entire human population of the earth has been armed with modern weaponry and the prospects for rapine behavior are greatly reduced. To what degree has western culture become an amoral managerial class? Looking solely at supply and demand would you predict that the size of the western managerial class would be reduced? Less to steal, less to manage. Armed with such a perspective would you still seek a place in the managerial class?
    To be less than subtle, The Enlightenment embodies the antithesis of the human social contract.The glorification of the individual, the elevation of the self within the family, the elevation of the personal family above the community, the elevation of satisfying personal desire above courage, honor, respsonsibility and justice is the cornerstone of The Enlightenment. A moment of crass observation, The Glorification of The Selfish Gene. The belief that human life can exist after it has destroyed the cooperative microbiome that is the origin and sustainer of life on this planet.
    I will wager that you would never hear such claptrap among graduates and afficianados of Dale Carnegie.
    Armed with such a perspective would you still seek a place in the managerial class?

    When the realization came that the socio/economic, political hierarchy of The Vatican had nothing to do with the philosopy of the Nazarean many an incongruence was resolved. As a cradle catholic, heretic, laborer and asocial outcast the managerial class never held any appeal. I do my best not to harbor any ill will for those held captive and only advise, “Be careful what you wish for”.

    i knew that eventually you and i would find a harmonious interval. I too struggle with misogyny for the moment. Different burr in the saddle blankets, similar discomfort.

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    you do understand that The National Bank of Iran has been declared a terrorist organization and thusly any monetary or economic action taken by The Islamic Repuplic of Iran can be designated a terrorist act?

    “It is not a matter of what is true that counts, but a matter of what is perceived to be true.” ~ Henry A. Kissinger

    Hegseth

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    as we look at today’s events an essential filter is to remember the term useleass earter was in use by Henry Kissinger and Newt Gingrich in the era of the Clinton administration.
    Kissinger – The elderly are useless eaters. The population needs to be reduced by 50%.
    The one thought that characterized the scorched earth mentality of Kissinger and Gingrich can be summarized in a single Kissinger quote:
    “The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.” ~ Henry A. Kissinger
    Gingrich – The Man Who Destroyed Congress or Newt Gingrich-The Man Who Blew Up America.

    When the current crop of usual suspects speak of a booming economy, they are not speaking about the economy in which you participate,
    When any crop of the national security usual suspects speak of defending the nation they are not speaking about the booming economy of which you do not participate.

    four Kissinger quotes to give some context to the current turmoil:
    “Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.” ~ Henry A. Kissinger

    “An expert is someone who articulates the needs of those in power.” ~ Henry A. Kissinger

    “What we in America call terrorists are really groups of people that reject the international system” ~ Henry A. Kissinger

    “I can think of no faster way to unite the American people behind George W. Bush than a terrorist attack on an American target overseas. And I believe George W. Bush will quickly unite the American people through his foreign policy.” ~ Henry A. Kissinger

    the current playbook is as old as sin

    Ecclesiastes 1:9
    What has been will be again,
    what has been done will be done again;
    there is nothing new under the sun.

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    Matt Gaetz for Attorney General

    i have always been of the opinion one should not cuss when they are angry, best to settle down and gain composure so one can do a proper job
    gonna take my own advice on this matter

    D Rich – there are skirmishes, there are battles and there are wars
    guerilla warfare was invented in Colonial North America, take heart my Good fellow

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    hey Smith 174271
    i once knew a man, whom i respected, that believed he could understand The Mind of God by reading the bible. The idea was presented often in small groups and accepted as general statement of fact within the congregation as a whole.

    My intellect, my emotions and my experience all cried out “Blasphemy” each time the idea came to the front. I would remind you friend the measure you use is the measure that shall be used for you. I read your posts regarding the foundation of reality.
    i seldom use the three letter word, I Am has no need of the baggage that most who use that word assign to their concept of that state of being. Still a Jesuit at heart i guess.
    I use a four letter word. Boss. One Master is enough.

    a peace that exceeds understanding, the proof to the equation that the poor will always be with us
    The Seven Heavenly Virtues are the fortress that defend and empower empathy and compassion
    Dominus Vobiscum

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    my favorite of Lyndon Johnson’s concepts was his definition of loyalty
    LBJ said he knew a man was loyal when he would kiss his ass at high noon in the main window of Macy’s turn to the crowd and swear he smelled roses.

    let’s wait another week and see how many still smell roses
    how about a silent wager on Tucker Carlson’s oflactory sense improving?

    the engineers site plan did not have the curve tables. had to use the radius, delta angle and arc length and rotate the arcs into alignment.
    got er done!

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