[Weogo]

Hi Folks,

My understanding of the world is that, to be healthy, humans need intact, bio-diverse ecosystems.
) Working with nature to restore ecosystems means some current
agricultural lands will have a much lower focus on human food production.
) Fish catches will be greatly reduced to restore healthy fish populations.
) We have extracted most of the easy to get to Fossil Carbon.
We will be using far less in the near future, including for agricultural production.
) Population x resource use = human impact. Per capita, this varies widely.
) The Chinese are on a path to lower population that is in balance with their natural resource base.
) While the Amish are better land stewards than some, their
family size/growth policies are not sustainable on our finite planet.
Who here would want to live the life of an Amish woman?
I very much appreciate the pacifism of Amish people.

Given the above, what do you consider to be a long-term healthy population of humans on the planet?
I’ve seen reasonable arguments for 500,00 ~ 2 billion.

https://www.downtoearth.org.in/blog/agriculture/can-agriculture-fuel-mass-extinction–87180

Thanks and good health, Weogo

[Weogo]

Hi Oroboros,

Thanks for the reply, and how does one post graphs/images here?

The first graph shows Arctic sea ice increasing from the
warmer month of September to the colder month of January.
I believe we can agree that we would expect sea ice coverage and volume to
increase annually during this period of a seasonal cycle?

Thanks and good health, Weogo

[Weogo]

Hi Folks,

Arctic sea ice:
https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/files/2022/12/Figure-3_TrendLine.png

https://www.eumetsat.int/state-arctic-and-antarctic-sea-ice-2021
https://www-cdn.eumetsat.int/files/2021-10/arctic_sea_ice_area_volume.gif

Thanks and good health, Weogo

[Weogo]

Hi Folks,

Thanks for posting the Carbon Tunnel Vision graphic; I found it here:

Carbon tunnel vision: climate change needs an inter-connected response

The term is used on multiple sites, including here:

Carbon tunnel visions: are you excluding crucial environmental data?

where they suggest looking at more than just one’s Carbon footprint but total
Environmental footprint.
A slightly different take called Planetary Boundaries:

The nine boundaries we must not cross or we may go extinct

Petroleum Geologist Colin Campbell of ASPO fame has passed.

Colin Campbell Remembrance

Almost 20 years ago he proposed a reasonably fair solution for distributing the world’s remaining fossil fuels:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimini_protocol

Thanks and good health, Weogo

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